Nope. Russia got foreign airliners because of boeing and airbus lobbying and auditing organizations. Essentially, competition was snuffed out due to this. It was noted quite a while ago and recent video vann posted where they talked about this.Militarov wrote:GunshipDemocracy wrote:Militarov wrote: I dont think Iran wants 100 wide body liners in a first place. They will most likely buy number of Airbus320Neo and some amount of wide bodys, they do not need 100 Airbus A330s, at least i dont see why would they.
They would not be interested in Tupolev for sure, here we are talking about Sukhoi 100, which can be produced in probably over 20 per year with no issues, maybe even more if orders existed. If they buy now Airbus, they will never again buy Russian liners simply due to logistics it would be too expencive and messy. They would have bought Russian liners if they had to before sanctions, now when they have ability to choose the wont.
Is Russia only buying own planes? or U/EU carriers only own? I also do not think Iran would reject Russian liners but buy rather MS-21 or something like Il-96 then SJ-100. SJ-100 is on the same level "sanctions dependent ". They could not buy earlier as Russia did manufacture virtually none.
Russians started bying foreign liners when domestic factories went to hell, even today they wouldnt be bying domestic if there wasnt pressure from the gov. Its big difference if you operate 3 types of foreign liners or 2 foreign and 1 domestic or 3 domestic. Also SSJ100 is being produced for quite a few years now, if they wanted it they could have ordered it even before 2010. And spares for SSJ would come via Russia when its about Western equipment not directly from suppliers if that was the point if sanction dependent part.
Russians needed money, if someone came to Tupolev in 2005. and said he wants 100 liners, they would sure as hell start production. Iran was simply waiting for sanctions to be halted to get Airbus or Boeing. At least that is what i get from whole this story. They tho had 6-7 major accidents featuring USSR/Russian liners and transport aircrafts which probably killed near 1000 people, that did not help much either.
I dont think any major EU/US based company operates anything Russian or Chinese. Some Fokkers, Bombardiers, Saabs occasionally but majority is Airbus/Boeing.
And in a strategic partnership, countries need to help each other out. Russia has all that is needed. You think Russia doesnt have a strong metallurgy industry? Theirs is one of the biggest and even India is purchasing from them. Same with US. Airliners? Sukhoi Superjet is one of them available. We were promised Russia would get billions in contracts. So far? Those billions are not to Russia.
You people cannot see beyond a gun sight. Economics is what will make Russia strong. But these consulting firms is the factor as to why Sukhoi civil aircrafts are failing to get decent sales. Total fucking failure on Russias authorities and business. And Iran isnt helping at all.
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