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    Re: Azerbaijan vs Armenia [Nagorno-Karabakh conflict]

    Post  GarryB on Mon Apr 25, 2016 11:14 am

    How about we stop with the psychological evaluations and just discuss the topic at hand.

    Everyone is a little bias in this thread, there is little value in denying it.

    This is an opportunity where you have members from both sides of the situation here discussing things... something you never get in western media... take the opportunity and behave, or I will lock the thread and ban a few people for a week so they can think about how to play nicely with others.

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    Re: Azerbaijan vs Armenia [Nagorno-Karabakh conflict]

    Post  sepheronx on Sat Apr 30, 2016 12:10 am

    Demonstrations in Yerevan: Do Armenians Really Hate Russia? http://journal-neo.org/2016/04/27/demonstrations-in-yerevan-do-armenians-really-hate-russia/

    This part is very correct:
    When an acclaimed publication such as National Interest comes out with the statement that “Something should be said about Russia’s motives and its ambitions in the region, as well as the widespread belief on social media in Azerbaijan that, somehow, the Kremlin is behind the recent crisis,” alarm bells start ringing. If Azerbaijanis are blaming The Kremlin, rather than the Armenians, and now Armenians are demonstrating against Russia too both sides allegedly have a common enemy, rather than the common friend they have in arms and economic practice. This would make it possible for the West to resolve the Karabakh problem by reorienting the two sides to fight together against Russia, sharing their resources in Karabakh for this purpose, but on the West’s own terms, of course.
    http://journal-neo.org/2016/04/27/demonstrations-in-yerevan-do-armenians-really-hate-russia/

    If both sides are blaming Russia, then why are they fighting each other?

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    Re: Azerbaijan vs Armenia [Nagorno-Karabakh conflict]

    Post  Grazneyar on Sat Apr 30, 2016 1:54 am

    Alot of 'protests' are funded by the usual suspects via NGO's. If someone followed the money trail and found Nuland/Soros etc... was the primary funder of the protest groups I wouldn't be surprised. I doubt that Armenians with any sense would do this, paid aggitators makes more sense. Nothing is impossible but the US/Israel angle is most likley, they are behind the mess in Syria/Ukraine and will back anyone to destabalise countries they can't control.

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    Post  TheArmenian on Sat Apr 30, 2016 4:09 am

    Grazneyar wrote:Alot of 'protests' are funded by the usual suspects via NGO's. If someone followed the money trail and found Nuland/Soros etc... was the primary funder of the protest groups I wouldn't be surprised. I doubt that Armenians with any sense would do this, paid aggitators makes more sense. Nothing is impossible but the US/Israel angle is most likley, they are behind the mess in Syria/Ukraine and will back anyone to destabalise countries they can't control.

    Just like everybody else, we have our share of 5th columnists, traitors and paid "activists".

    However, we are off-topic.

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    Post  Militarov on Thu May 05, 2016 3:48 am

    Karabakh MOD: "Azerbaijan's army military installations in close vicinity to their populated areas, violating Geneva Convention."








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    Re: Azerbaijan vs Armenia [Nagorno-Karabakh conflict]

    Post  George1 on Fri May 06, 2016 2:30 am

    I am afraid that "Pandora's box" maybe will be opened..

    Armenian government approves draft law on recognizing Nagorno-Karabakh

    More:
    http://tass.ru/en/world/874041


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    Post  George1 on Tue Jun 21, 2016 11:49 am

    Russian, Azeri, Armenian leaders agree to continue trilateral contacts

    More:
    http://tass.ru/en/world/883596


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    Re: Azerbaijan vs Armenia [Nagorno-Karabakh conflict]

    Post  Khepesh on Mon Jul 25, 2016 8:34 pm

    As no specific thread for Armenia, then here. Live stream from Yerevan of march occuring at time of this post, and in support of the armed group who have taken police station in Yerevan. Some say this is attempt at Armenian maidan

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    Post  franco on Mon Jul 25, 2016 9:24 pm

    Read within the last couple of weeks that the American Embassy in Armenia has 1500 staff. Obviously a lot of Cultural exchanges going on. Not sure if people realize it or not but the New World Order movement has been in progress since WW2 ended. Time is not of the essence as they gradually gain control one piece at a time. Noticed today that one of the Turkish ministers was saying that the Gulenist were attempting to  organize Turkish minorities in Kyrgyzstan into supporting a Maidan, another country with a disproportionately sized American Embassy.

    http://tass.ru/en/world/890558

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    Post  sepheronx on Fri Jul 29, 2016 7:54 pm

    more protests: http://sputnikarmenia.ru/incidents/20160729/4535772.html

    If Armenian authorities are not going to stamp out these protestors, then they need to step down.  It is a shame that these protests can keep on going and going with impunity, especially since their only real ambition is to force the government to step down.  This isn't democratic.

    The Armenian - can you give us more details of what is happening? How many people are part of the protests? What is the government going to do? It sure does look more like a Maiden since now they got foreigners (Canadian Armenians) talking bollocks.

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    Post  sepheronx on Fri Jul 29, 2016 8:57 pm

    Police Begin to Disperse Demonstrators Near Seized Building in Yerevan

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    Post  TheArmenian on Sat Jul 30, 2016 9:28 am

    sepheronx wrote:more protests: http://sputnikarmenia.ru/incidents/20160729/4535772.html

    ...
    The Armenian - can you give us more details of what is happening? How many people are part of the protests? What is the government going to do?  It sure does look more like a Maiden since now they got foreigners (Canadian Armenians) talking bollocks.

    Don't worry too much. This is not Maidan.

    People are mostly protesting because of socio-economic reasons. Don't read too much into news and media where things get twisted by journalists and people with propagandist agendas.

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    Post  kvs on Sat Jul 30, 2016 1:19 pm

    TheArmenian wrote:
    sepheronx wrote:more protests: http://sputnikarmenia.ru/incidents/20160729/4535772.html

    ...
    The Armenian - can you give us more details of what is happening? How many people are part of the protests? What is the government going to do?  It sure does look more like a Maiden since now they got foreigners (Canadian Armenians) talking bollocks.

    Don't worry too much. This is not Maidan.

    People are mostly protesting because of socio-economic reasons. Don't read too much into news and media where things get twisted by journalists and people with propagandist agendas.

    That's the problem, even if these people are not seditionists they can be leveraged to achieve Uncle Scam's ambitions. Most of the
    people on the Maidan for most of the protest period were not really trying to stage a coup. But their protest was hijacked and
    they were quickly forgotten. In fact, in the lie factory NATO mass media they 10,000 Rights Sector militants who took over were
    being painted as the original protestors (they couldn't even get the numbers right in their propaganda BS since they claimed
    there were up to 1 million protestors).

    The important thing is for Armenia's government to make sure that all of the key government buildings are secure and that
    key people are not in well advertised locations. If a coup attempt is staged then it will flop. In Ukraine the government allowed
    various government buildings to fall to the militants. Yanukovich should have been sending in tanks and soldiers to clear out the
    square and to secure buildings. Instead he was obeying Merkel and negotiating.

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    Post  sepheronx on Sat Jul 30, 2016 5:38 pm

    TheArmenian wrote:
    sepheronx wrote:more protests: http://sputnikarmenia.ru/incidents/20160729/4535772.html

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    The Armenian - can you give us more details of what is happening? How many people are part of the protests? What is the government going to do?  It sure does look more like a Maiden since now they got foreigners (Canadian Armenians) talking bollocks.

    Don't worry too much. This is not Maidan.

    People are mostly protesting because of socio-economic reasons. Don't read too much into news and media where things get twisted by journalists and people with propagandist agendas.

    http://katehon.com/article/who-behind-us-hybrid-war-armenia

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    Post  sepheronx on Sat Jul 30, 2016 6:11 pm

    http://katehon.com/news/protests-armenia-transformed-riots

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    Re: Azerbaijan vs Armenia [Nagorno-Karabakh conflict]

    Post  Khepesh on Sat Jul 30, 2016 7:50 pm

    A policeman was shot dead in his car by a sniper operating from the police station occupied by the "maidanists". American ambassador to Yerevan has threatened sanctions. This is repeat of Kiev. http://news.am/eng/news/339768.html

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    Post  magnumcromagnon on Sat Jul 30, 2016 8:08 pm

    Khepesh wrote:A policeman was shot dead in his car by a sniper operating from the police station occupied by the "maidanists". American ambassador to Yerevan has threatened sanctions. This is repeat of Kiev. http://news.am/eng/news/339768.html

    So the bloated US embassy in Armenia is threatening sanctions against Armenia?

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    Post  Khepesh on Sat Jul 30, 2016 8:25 pm

    It is said, so nothing is certain, that the ambassador has made a general threat of sanctions to anybody engaged in violence and violence aginainst journalists. A Lifenews journalist was injured yesterday. But as with Kiev, these threats are against the legitimate state as well as rioters, so as they cannot impose sanctions against masked rioters, that part has no meaning and his statement is really aimed at the state. I think we all know what America would do if armed rioters seized police station in Washington and killed police, but seems only they are allowed to take action. How long before Obama starts talking about "peaceful protestors", cookies handed out.....


    edit: Lets hope Lukashenko and Nazarbaev have a good plan against this, as it will be coming.

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    Re: Azerbaijan vs Armenia [Nagorno-Karabakh conflict]

    Post  magnumcromagnon on Sat Jul 30, 2016 9:27 pm

    Khepesh wrote:It is said, so nothing is certain, that the ambassador has made a general threat of sanctions to anybody engaged in violence and violence aginainst journalists. A Lifenews journalist was injured yesterday. But as with Kiev, these threats are against the legitimate state as well as rioters, so as they cannot impose sanctions against masked rioters, that part has no meaning and his statement is really aimed at the state. I think we all know what America would do if armed rioters seized police station in Washington and killed police, but seems only they are allowed to take action. How long before Obama starts talking about "peaceful protestors", cookies handed out.....


    edit: Lets hope Lukashenko and Nazarbaev have a good plan against this, as it will be coming.

    Well they could show solidarity with Armenia by freezing the assets of companies based in the countries that placed the sanctions on Armenia, and potentially nationalize the assets if the hostile nations continue the game of brinkmanship, further hostility could be met with Treasury bond dumps, refusal to cooperate in enforcing file-sharing legal restriction, high tariffs (by several hundred or thousand percentage points), banning derivatives trading (this will hit Soros hard), and the ultimate asymmetrical response...a collective debt moratorium of western owned debt which would hit Deutsche bank ($75 trillion in derivatives), JP Morgan Chase($70 trillion in derivatives) , Morgan Stanley, Goldman Sachs, BNP Paribas, Royal Bank of Scotland like the Tsar Bomba was dropped on top of their head!

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    Post  sepheronx on Sat Jul 30, 2016 11:56 pm

    @ TheArmenian

    You make it always sound like this is nothing, but your people (well, these fuckers) are going to destroy your country. Better start getting people involved to stop this or you are fucked. You and your country will soon be Banderite Shithole 2.0 after US and their sticky fingers get involved.

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    Post  sepheronx on Sun Jul 31, 2016 12:07 am

    Read Page 16:
    https://gulbenkian.pt/armenian-communities/wp-content/uploads/sites/23/2015/09/2015-Scholarship-Report.pdf


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    Post  ExBeobachter1987 on Sun Jul 31, 2016 2:22 am

    TheArmenian wrote:
    sepheronx wrote:more protests: http://sputnikarmenia.ru/incidents/20160729/4535772.html

    ...
    The Armenian - can you give us more details of what is happening? How many people are part of the protests? What is the government going to do?  It sure does look more like a Maiden since now they got foreigners (Canadian Armenians) talking bollocks.

    Don't worry too much. This is not Maidan.

    People are mostly protesting because of socio-economic reasons. Don't read too much into news and media where things get twisted by journalists and people with propagandist agendas.

    Sorry, but this looks much more worrisome than the last attempt to recreate Maidan in Armenia.

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    Post  Resistance on Sun Jul 31, 2016 4:47 am

    another police officer killed by CIA backed coup

    http://www.dw.com/en/gunmen-kill-second-police-officer-in-armenia-standoff/a-19439564

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    Post  Project Canada on Sun Jul 31, 2016 7:47 am


    It seems USA will stop at nothing to sow chaos among former Soviet republics, and their final target in sight is the Russian Federation. I hope Russia will find a way to step in and mow down all these pathetic Maidan instigators and feed them all to a grinding machine Rolling Eyes This is all too obvious!

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