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    Isos

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    Re: Promising destroyer / NIR Leader:

    Post  Isos on Tue Nov 13, 2018 9:31 am

    kumbor wrote:
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    GarryB wrote:.....
    But they have to make sure the design is right because once they start making them they don't want to have to stop and redesign them...

    Since when?

    Changing their mind and redesigning ships several times during construction and then abandoning the whole project and starting over from scratch with more money wasted it's literally their preferred MO.

    They aren't ordering or building anything​ because they can't.

    Last combat ship that isn't missile boat was laid down several years ago, since then nothing.

    It is simply not true!

    Yes it is.
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    Re: Promising destroyer / NIR Leader:

    Post  eehnie on Tue Nov 13, 2018 5:57 pm

    Interesting pictures:

    https://mobile.twitter.com/Mirage2000B/status/1061150562601787393







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    Re: Promising destroyer / NIR Leader:

    Post  SeigSoloyvov on Tue Nov 13, 2018 7:50 pm

    Nice Fanart?.
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    Re: Promising destroyer / NIR Leader:

    Post  PapaDragon on Tue Nov 13, 2018 8:03 pm

    SeigSoloyvov wrote:Nice Fanart?.

    Hey, they got the rust right lol1
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    Re: Promising destroyer / NIR Leader:

    Post  George1 on Tue Nov 13, 2018 8:54 pm

    Just a scale model

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    Re: Promising destroyer / NIR Leader:

    Post  kumbor on Wed Nov 14, 2018 8:17 pm


    As of 1st november 2018, following surface ships are in construction (laid down or launched) for VMF RF. Only ships of 2000 t D or bigger.

    Arctic patrol ship pr.23550 - 1
    frigate pr.22350 - 3
    corvette pr.20386 - 1
    corvette pr.20380/5 - 5
    patrol ship pr.22160 - 3

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    Re: Promising destroyer / NIR Leader:

    Post  Nibiru on Wed Nov 14, 2018 9:00 pm

    Cant wait to see the real ship in 2100...
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    Re: Promising destroyer / NIR Leader:

    Post  GarryB on Thu Nov 15, 2018 6:08 am

    So many clowns telling the same old jokes.

    Shame Russia has to suffer the leadership of Putin instead of someone smart like you guys... Rolling Eyes

    Just a scale model

    He knows... he is just being a dick...
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    Re: Promising destroyer / NIR Leader:

    Post  Militarov on Fri Nov 16, 2018 10:23 pm

    PapaDragon wrote:
    SeigSoloyvov wrote:Nice Fanart?.

    Hey, they got the rust right lol1

    lol!
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    Re: Promising destroyer / NIR Leader:

    Post  GarryB on Sat Nov 17, 2018 1:19 am

    Yeah, American ships don't rust... they just run into cargo ships...

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    Re: Promising destroyer / NIR Leader:

    Post  hoom on Sat Nov 17, 2018 3:26 am

    The rust thing was fair enough 10+yrs back but now its bullshit & especially for a new class.

    Actually you see even older Russian ships looking clean & well cared for last few yrs, its the US & NATO ships that are increasingly showing up rusty.
    Russian ships been catching up on deferred maintenance/completing refits/getting new ships & becoming more active, US etc being over-used, increasing reports of deferred maintenance, poorly trained crews causing incidents, ships tied up at dock inactive for years...
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    Re: Promising destroyer / NIR Leader:

    Post  SeigSoloyvov on Sun Nov 18, 2018 9:09 am

    GarryB wrote:Yeah, American ships don't rust... they just run into cargo ships...

    Hey at least we don't nearly sink our own carriers~
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    Re: Promising destroyer / NIR Leader:

    Post  GarryB on Sun Nov 18, 2018 10:49 am

    The rust thing was fair enough 10+yrs back but now its bullshit & especially for a new class.

    It is on a MODEL...

    And even brand new models rust, so you think the laws of physics have changed?

    Put lots of different metal types in salt water... look it up... it is called electrolysis

    Hey at least we don't nearly sink our own carriers~

    Haha... give them time...

    Even your brand new ships seem to suffer from corrosion...

    [url=https://www.matcor.com/navy-finds-aggressive-corrosion-on-new-ship/ ]https://www.matcor.com/navy-finds-aggressive-corrosion-on-new-ship/ [/url]




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    Re: Promising destroyer / NIR Leader:

    Post  hoom on Sun Nov 18, 2018 2:39 pm

    It is on a MODEL...
    A model depicting it as a post-soviet '90s rustbucket basically its a subtle bit of propaganda.


    Even your brand new ships seem to suffer from corrosion...
    From recollection that LCS one was because the shipyard didn't put anodes on it before launch/handing over to the navy, considered it navy responsibility, navy didn't realise they're missing -> the aluminium hull sat there in the sea for many months playing sacrificial anode.

    Contract or not its hard to understand nobody at the shipyard saying 'nope, we can't launch this with no anodes' Neutral
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    Re: Promising destroyer / NIR Leader:

    Post  Big_Gazza on Mon Nov 19, 2018 3:39 am

    hoom wrote:Contract or not its hard to understand nobody at the shipyard saying 'nope, we can't launch this with no anodes' Neutral

    Especially as anodes can only be installed below the waterline onto hull studs provided for that purpose.  If the studs are in place, why no anodes?  If no studs, did they think the Navy would dry-dock and weld some on themselves?...

    It boggles the mind.
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    Re: Promising destroyer / NIR Leader:

    Post  GarryB on Tue Nov 20, 2018 6:14 am

    From recollection that LCS one was because the shipyard didn't put anodes on it before launch/handing over to the navy, considered it navy responsibility, navy didn't realise they're missing -> the aluminium hull sat there in the sea for many months playing sacrificial anode.

    The aluminium hull with steel lined propulsion system was always going to create problems at sea where the two different metals met... it is not rocket science...

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    Re: Promising destroyer / NIR Leader:

    Post  hoom on Tue Nov 20, 2018 7:17 am

    Not if its properly anoded.

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    Re: Promising destroyer / NIR Leader:

    Post  kumbor on Tue Nov 20, 2018 11:16 am

    hoom wrote:Not if its properly anoded.

    Anode protection is something ordinary for at least a century!

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