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    SeigSoloyvov

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    Re: Promising destroyer / NIR Leader:

    Post  SeigSoloyvov on Thu Dec 28, 2017 5:57 pm

    LOL Sure the Russian government gave a web site on the internet over it's own state-controlled media outlets, it's own shipyards, over it's own public but they gave the scope to a site on the internet.

    You are full of crap man if there was any truth to this story Russian media, shipyards or the government would have said something
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    Re: Promising destroyer / NIR Leader:

    Post  eehnie on Thu Dec 28, 2017 7:02 pm

    SeigSoloyvov wrote:LOL Sure the Russian government gave a web site on the internet over it's own state-controlled media outlets, it's own shipyards, over it's own public but they gave the scope to a site on the internet.

    You are full of crap man if there was any truth to this story Russian media, shipyards or the government would have said something

    So you pretend to control all the public information, every small contract, everything... ohhh, very cute

    Well, if you can not faster, you will have to digest this slowly.

    http://russianships.info/eng/warships/project_23560.htm

    First unit of the Project 23560 Lider, named Orlov-Chesmenskiy, under production, for desperation of pro-US commenters.

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    Re: Promising destroyer / NIR Leader:

    Post  SeigSoloyvov on Thu Dec 28, 2017 7:17 pm

    eehnie wrote:
    SeigSoloyvov wrote:LOL Sure the Russian government gave a web site on the internet over it's own state-controlled media outlets, it's own shipyards, over it's own public but they gave the scope to a site on the internet.

    You are full of crap man if there was any truth to this story Russian media, shipyards or the government would have said something

    So you pretend to control all the public information, every small contract, everything... ohhh, very cute

    Well, if you can not faster, you will have to digest this slowly.

    http://russianships.info/eng/warships/project_23560.htm

    First unit of the Project 23560 Lider, named Orlov-Chesmenskiy, under production, for desperation of pro-US commenters.


    yes because that website speaks for the russian shipyards and government which have never mentioned such a thing.

    Let me show you real proof https://russiamil.wordpress.com/2017/11/27/russias-military-modernization-plans-2018-2027/

    The Very plan the russians are going by the SAP.

    "The only new class of surface ships expected to be built in the next eight years are the so-called Super Gorshkov-class, an 8,000-ton frigate that is increasingly seen as a cheaper and more practical alternative to the 14,000-ton Lider-class destroyers"

    The SAP which comes from the Russian Government it's self-says you are wrong, now I have proven you wrong but we all know you will double down on this idiocy and continue to make a fool of yourself but enjoy that.
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    Re: Promising destroyer / NIR Leader:

    Post  eehnie on Thu Dec 28, 2017 7:30 pm

    SeigSoloyvov wrote:
    eehnie wrote:
    SeigSoloyvov wrote:LOL Sure the Russian government gave a web site on the internet over it's own state-controlled media outlets, it's own shipyards, over it's own public but they gave the scope to a site on the internet.

    You are full of crap man if there was any truth to this story Russian media, shipyards or the government would have said something

    So you pretend to control all the public information, every small contract, everything... ohhh, very cute

    Well, if you can not faster, you will have to digest this slowly.

    http://russianships.info/eng/warships/project_23560.htm

    First unit of the Project 23560 Lider, named Orlov-Chesmenskiy, under production, for desperation of pro-US commenters.


    yes because that website speaks for the russian shipyards and government which have never mentioned such a thing.

    Let me show you real proof https://russiamil.wordpress.com/2017/11/27/russias-military-modernization-plans-2018-2027/

    The Very plan the russians are going by the SAP.

    "The only new class of surface ships expected to be built in the next eight years are the so-called Super Gorshkov-class, an 8,000-ton frigate that is increasingly seen as a cheaper and more practical alternative to the 14,000-ton Lider-class destroyers"

    The SAP which comes from the Russian Government it's self-says you are wrong, now I have proven you wrong but we all know you will double down on this idiocy and continue to make a fool of yourself but enjoy that.

    Lol, another American blog:

    Author
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    Davis Center for Russian and Eurasian Studies
    Harvard University
    1730 Cambridge St
    Cambridge, MA 02138
    Fax: 253-559-3118
    E-mail: gorenbur [at] fas.harvard.edu

    https://russiamil.wordpress.com/about/
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    Re: Promising destroyer / NIR Leader:

    Post  SeigSoloyvov on Thu Dec 28, 2017 7:42 pm

    MHm thought you would say that, fact is all that website did is state what the SAP said.

    https://southfront.org/russias-state-armaments-program-for-2018-2025/

    http://tass.com/defense/982420

    https://sputniknews.com/russia/201704071052401560-russia-arms-program/

    "He added that the planned construction of Shtorm-class nuclear aircraft carriers could also be put on hold and that Lider-class destroyers would hardly be floated before 2025"

    This line is in sputnik

    These are all pro russian websites~

    Or does you silly little website know better than the Defense Minister Yuri Borisov
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    Re: Promising destroyer / NIR Leader:

    Post  eehnie on Thu Dec 28, 2017 8:02 pm

    SeigSoloyvov wrote:MHm thought you would say that, fact is all that website did is state what the SAP said.

    https://southfront.org/russias-state-armaments-program-for-2018-2025/

    http://tass.com/defense/982420

    https://sputniknews.com/russia/201704071052401560-russia-arms-program/

    "He added that the planned construction of Shtorm-class nuclear aircraft carriers could also be put on hold and that Lider-class destroyers would hardly be floated before 2025"

    This line is in sputnik

    These are all pro russian websites~

    Or does you silly little website know better than the Defense Minister Yuri Borisov

    In the refered to the Russian Navy, no-one of this sites has the knowledge that russianships.info proves to have.
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    Re: Promising destroyer / NIR Leader:

    Post  SeigSoloyvov on Thu Dec 28, 2017 8:23 pm

    eehnie wrote:
    SeigSoloyvov wrote:MHm thought you would say that, fact is all that website did is state what the SAP said.

    https://southfront.org/russias-state-armaments-program-for-2018-2025/

    http://tass.com/defense/982420

    https://sputniknews.com/russia/201704071052401560-russia-arms-program/

    "He added that the planned construction of Shtorm-class nuclear aircraft carriers could also be put on hold and that Lider-class destroyers would hardly be floated before 2025"

    This line is in sputnik

    These are all pro russian websites~

    Or does you silly little website know better than the Defense Minister Yuri Borisov

    In the refered to the Russian Navy, no-one of this sites has the knowledge that russianships.info proves to have.

    russianships.info knows better than Defense Minister Yuri Borisov lol!
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    Re: Promising destroyer / NIR Leader:

    Post  eehnie on Thu Dec 28, 2017 9:15 pm


    lol!lol! Do you think the people able to create a database like this, read not Borisov (in Russian)? Nothing of what Yury Borisov said contradicts the source.

    At this point, what we see in this link:

    http://russianships.info/eng/warships/project_23560.htm

    means that the construction of the first unit of the Project 23560 begins under the State Armament Program 2011-2020 (likely thanks to the Mistral money). Today the State Armament Program 2018-2025 is not still in force. I would not be surprised if there is a similar situation with the first unit of the Project 23000. If this is right, it would not be a need of ordering big ships under the State Armament Program 2018-2025.

    Also what we see in this link means that Yury Borisov is doing good work distracting you of the reality. lol! lol!
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    Re: Promising destroyer / NIR Leader:

    Post  The-thing-next-door on Thu Dec 28, 2017 9:30 pm

    The Lider class destroyer requiers the naval S-500,Pantsir-M and other weapon systems that are still in development therefor the first Lider class will likely only be operational in the early to mid 2020s however It would make sense for Russia to make a pilot ship in order to test systems and work out what problems need to be fixed before pressing the new ships into service.


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