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    Re: Israeli–Palestinian conflict:

    Post  Werewolf on Fri Aug 08, 2014 8:59 am

    Hachimoto wrote:I'm sure their more IDF soldiers killed :



    That only shows who Hamas is actually targeting while Israeli Depopulation Forces target civilians mainly.

    Also IDF was caught uploading faked and self produced "Manuals of Hamas" which teach how to use human shields.

    A very pathetic move trying to justify their genocide by always using same propaganda lies of "Hamas hiding behind civilians", so they had to fabricate a manual since they don't have actual evidence for this lie, while IDF was caught on tape several times using palestinian kids as human shields while raiding into Gaza.

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    Re: Israeli–Palestinian conflict:

    Post  As Sa'iqa on Fri Aug 08, 2014 9:26 am

    I find it amazing that when islamist thugs fight Assad, they're terrorists, yet when they fight Israel, they become heroes in the eyes of people in this forum.

    It is shameful that first you get angry at usa and eu for employing double standards, yet you shamelessly employ the same double standards when it suits your views.

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    Re: Israeli–Palestinian conflict:

    Post  magnumcromagnon on Fri Aug 08, 2014 10:31 am

    As Sa'iqa wrote:I find it amazing that when islamist thugs fight Assad, they're terrorists, yet when they fight Israel, they become heroes in the eyes of people in this forum.

    It is shameful that first you get angry at usa and eu for employing double standards, yet you shamelessly employ the same double standards when it suits your views.

    Before you lecture us, why don't you address why the Polish people have their shameless double standards that they hold against Russia over it's past while at the same time give Germany a total pass for it's past, or the fact that Polish give a total pass for the US and UK even though the most influential power-brokers in their respective countries were apologists and sympathizers who backed Hitler's policies in the Czechoslovakian Sudetenland, and in Poland. Secondly you can't compare Syria's situation with Israel's, unlike the Syrian example the Israeli's hold direct responsibility for the existence of Hamas, no one should waste their time feeling sorry for Israel's Frankensteinian policies:

    http://online.wsj.com/news/articles/SB123275572295011847

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    Re: Israeli–Palestinian conflict:

    Post  As Sa'iqa on Fri Aug 08, 2014 10:42 am

    It's simple - Germany is the strongest European country and a major power in the EU. It is also our NATO partner.

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    Re: Israeli–Palestinian conflict:

    Post  Hannibal Barca on Fri Aug 08, 2014 11:09 am

    You can't vote for a message anymore for today.

    I hate this warning  lol1

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    Re: Israeli–Palestinian conflict:

    Post  As Sa'iqa on Fri Aug 08, 2014 11:13 am

    Why do I have so many neg rep points? I don't get it.

    Maybe if I want to get positive rep, I need to bash USA, Israel while praising Russia?

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    Re: Israeli–Palestinian conflict:

    Post  Hannibal Barca on Fri Aug 08, 2014 11:24 am

    Because you are an idiot through and though. I totally lost hope with you.

    The only reason I don't want you to be banned nor to be edited is because I am always for the free speech and non stringent moderation.

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    Re: Israeli–Palestinian conflict:

    Post  As Sa'iqa on Fri Aug 08, 2014 11:39 am

    get lost you filthy scumbag

    The problem with personal abuse is that it only gets replied in kind.

    If you both want a break to think about the forum rules and what you want to contribute and what you want to get out of your experience here just keep putting each other down and I will oblige with bans. You both seem to be mature adults... act like mature adults. you don't have to agree with each other and you don't have to even like each other but without respect you degenerate to name calling which is not debate nor discussion.

    I have typed this into your post... do not think we can pretend nothing happened if you edit your own post and delete this warning.

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    Post  Hannibal Barca on Fri Aug 08, 2014 11:53 am

    I already knew that Polish morons where following passionately the steps of Ukrainians...
    Some nations really don't deserve the generosity has been given to them by the late Soviet establishment.

    I am sure you are referring to that small minority of Polish people who are less intelligent than average, rather than suggesting a link between all Polish people and stupidity... the word is however struck out because you appear to be suggesting a member of this forum is a Polish person of substandard intelligence... which breaks the forum rules regarding respecting other members.

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    Re: Israeli–Palestinian conflict:

    Post  Werewolf on Fri Aug 08, 2014 4:26 pm

    As Sa'iqa wrote:I find it amazing that when islamist thugs fight Assad, they're terrorists, yet when they fight Israel, they become heroes in the eyes of people in this forum.

    It is shameful that first you get angry at usa and eu for employing double standards, yet you shamelessly employ the same double standards when it suits your views.

    Maybe because the one in Syria where US trained and founded terrorists that had their terror training camps in turkey,israel,pakistan, afghanistan,kuwait,saudi arabia and qatar, while Hamas are not terrorists but freedom fighters in the true sense of this word. They are not jihadists they are not fighting for religion but because they are in the biggest open air concentration camp. It is Israhell that is the religious fanatic there that fights a religious war with their fucking bible and talmud telling that this is "their homeland".

    So how are jews not fanatic religious while openly fighting religious believes against all non jews but muslims are always religious?

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    Re: Israeli–Palestinian conflict:

    Post  magnumcromagnon on Fri Aug 08, 2014 4:52 pm

    As Sa'iqa wrote:It's simple - Germany is the strongest European country and a major power in the EU. It is also our NATO partner.

    Hahahahahahaha, NATO partnership is an abject fraud! If it was anything that it was cracked up to be than they would of never supported and backed the Pan-Turkic savagery and butchering of Greek people in Cyprus...where talking about Greek's here! The Greek diaspora, the ethnic group that both founded Democracy as well as Western civilization, but NATO rather go on the limb for medieval non-European Islamist savages than protecting the foundations and founders of Western civilization. And lastly if NATO membership was anything that it was cracked up to be than Radioslaw Sikorsky would of never associated Polish political affiliation with it to sexual favors and prostitution. lol1

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    Greenwald: ‘There’s a Racist Element’ to Media’s Gaza Coverage

    Post  nemrod on Tue Aug 12, 2014 6:25 am



    http://www.mediaite.com/online/greenwald-theres-a-racist-element-to-medias-gaza-coverage/


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    Re: Israeli–Palestinian conflict:

    Post  George1 on Tue Aug 12, 2014 4:38 pm

    Arab League Presses for Gaza Peace Deal

    The Arab League held an emergency meeting in Cairo on Monday urging Egyptian leaders to continue brokering a peace deal between Israel's government and Palestinian leadership.

    "The League council invites Egypt to continue its efforts to cement the ceasefire into a lasting truce between the Palestinians and the Israelis, and resume Cairo-brokered indirect talks to reach a final agreement that puts an end to the Israeli aggression on Gaza," the Arab League said in a statement.

    A new cease-fire began on mONDAY AT 00.00 HOURS (21 GMT) as both sides returned to Cairo to resume talks. The conflict is now in its 35th day and has claimed the lives of over 1,900 Palestinians, while causing significant damage to Gaza's civilian infrastructure.

    However, Israeli officials are saying that progress with the peace talks has stalled.

    "The gaps between the sides are big and there is no progress in the negotiations," said an Israeli official who insisted on anonymity.

    Efforts are underway to extend the current cease-fire which expires at the end of the day Wednesday.

    "I certainly hope that there will be a diplomatic solution. If there will not be a diplomatic solution, I am convinced that sooner or later we will have to opt for a military solution of taking temporary control of Gaza to demilitarize it again," said Israeli Strategic Affairs Minister Yuval Steinitz on Monday.

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    Re: Israeli–Palestinian conflict:

    Post  Hachimoto on Sun Aug 17, 2014 5:41 am

    George1 wrote:Arab League Presses for Gaza Peace Deal

    The Arab League held an emergency meeting in Cairo on Monday urging Egyptian leaders to continue brokering a peace deal between Israel's government and Palestinian leadership.

    "The League council invites Egypt to continue its efforts to cement the ceasefire into a lasting truce between the Palestinians and the Israelis, and resume Cairo-brokered indirect talks to reach a final agreement that puts an end to the Israeli aggression on Gaza," the Arab League said in a statement.

    A new cease-fire began on mONDAY AT 00.00 HOURS (21 GMT) as both sides returned to Cairo to resume talks. The conflict is now in its 35th day and has claimed the lives of over 1,900 Palestinians, while causing significant damage to Gaza's civilian infrastructure.

    However, Israeli officials are saying that progress with the peace talks has stalled.

    "The gaps between the sides are big and there is no progress in the negotiations," said an Israeli official who insisted on anonymity.

    Efforts are underway to extend the current cease-fire which expires at the end of the day Wednesday.

    "I certainly hope that there will be a diplomatic solution. If there will not be a diplomatic solution, I am convinced that sooner or later we will have to opt for a military solution of taking temporary control of Gaza to demilitarize it again," said Israeli Strategic Affairs Minister Yuval Steinitz on Monday.

    Egypt (Sissi) do not want to see an airport or a seaport for them, it will break their influence so they will have no more use in the eye of israel Very Happy

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    Re: Israeli–Palestinian conflict:

    Post  Hachimoto on Sun Aug 17, 2014 5:44 am

    Qassam : J-80 production will still be going on even under airtrikes




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    Re: Israeli–Palestinian conflict:

    Post  nemrod on Sun Aug 17, 2014 4:30 pm

    Hachimoto wrote:Qassam : J-80 production will still be going on even under airtrikes ...

    Thx again Hachimoto for these informations.
    However, the flaws of Iron Dome is not a surprise for me
    http://www.technologyreview.com/view/528991/an-explanation-of-the-evidence-of-weaknesses-in-the-iron-dome-defense-system/

    Theodore Posols exposed why, and how this system does not work as it was claimed by Israel.

    The greatest asset of Israel is neither Trophy, or Iron Dome, even US military help. But the hugest asset is the filthy bastard of egyptian adminstration that completly blockade Gaza. This error, will be the string that will hang Egypt in a near future, as Iraq's Saddam Hussein when he believed in US, and did war against Iran. The bastard of Sissi, the bastard of the big shit of all egyptian's army staff, oligarchs, and egyptian 'cultural elit that helped IDF. If it was not Egypt, I think Hamas has enough assets to smash IDF. Palestinians don't need any help from anyone.

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    Re: Israeli–Palestinian conflict:

    Post  Mike E on Sun Aug 17, 2014 4:36 pm

    Egypt did screw Hamas over... However, had Egypt supported Hamas, both Israel and the US would be all over Egypt right now. - Aka, they did it to save their butts.

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    Re: Israeli–Palestinian conflict:

    Post  Morpheus Eberhardt on Mon Aug 18, 2014 7:20 am

    Mike E wrote:Egypt did screw Hamas over... However, had Egypt supported Hamas, both Israel and the US would be all over Egypt right now. - Aka, they did it to save their butts.

    Your interpretation of the situation is not valid. Earlier in this thread, the nature of Hamas was clarified, and it is this true nature of Hamas which provides the right perspective for evaluating the Egyptian actions.

    After all, think back about the main event that was the stated justification for the counter-coup in Egypt that overthrew the "US" installed "Muslim Brotherhood".

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    Re: Israeli–Palestinian conflict:

    Post  Mike E on Mon Aug 18, 2014 2:27 pm

    True, and I'm not going to deny that...

    Either way what I said was (in a way) true.

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    Re: Israeli–Palestinian conflict:

    Post  Mike E on Wed Aug 20, 2014 1:55 am

    UNITED NATIONS, August 20 (RIA Novosti) - UN Secretary-General Ban Ki-moon condemned the disruption of the most recent temporary ceasefire in Gaza.
    “[Ban Ki-moon] condemns in the strongest terms the breach of the Egyptian brokered humanitarian ceasefire which was to expire at midnight local time,” the statement by the UN chief said Tuesday adding that Ban “is gravely disappointed by the return to hostilities.”
    Ban's statement reminded “both sides of their responsibility not to let the situation escalate.”
    The fragile truce in the Gaza Strip came to an end on Tuesday as several rockets launched by Palestinian rebels landed in the Jewish State. Two of them were intercepted in the air; another one damaged a café in the city of Ashkelon.
    Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu later ordered the army to retaliate with airstrikes on Gaza and instructed the Israeli delegation in Cairo to return to Israel as the negotiations with the Palestinians over the Gaza truce had collapsed.
    In a statement on Tuesday, the UN Chief urged the two sides to address the urgent issues seeking an immediate understanding.
    “[Ban] calls on the delegations to live up to this expectation and urges the parties to reach an immediate understanding on a durable ceasefire which also addresses the underlying issues afflicting Gaza,” the Secretary-General stressed.

    - Not like this is going to help...

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    Re: Israeli–Palestinian conflict:

    Post  Hachimoto on Wed Aug 20, 2014 8:19 am

    Israel and Isis are recruiting all over the world :








    Next to hear from CNN : Hamas terrorists killed innocent american israeili soldier Very Happy

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    Re: Israeli–Palestinian conflict:

    Post  Hachimoto on Fri Aug 22, 2014 7:52 am

    Ner Aouaz Colony Shelling :


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    Re: Israeli–Palestinian conflict:

    Post  George1 on Fri Aug 22, 2014 10:49 am

    Israeli Army to Mobilize 10,000 Reserve Soldiers for Gaza Operation

    TEL AVIV, August 21 (RIA Novosti) – The Israeli Defense Forces (IDF) have received the government’s permission to call up 10,000 reservists for military operation in the Gaza Strip, a military source said Thursday.

    “The army received the political leadership’s permission to call up 10,000 reservists in addition to the 20,000-25,000 who were mobilized earlier and remain in service,” the source said, adding that the rest of some 80,000 soldiers called up previoulsy returned home after Israel finished its Gaza operation to demolish Hamas tunnels.

    Earlier in the day, Israel’s Defense Minister Moshe Ya'alon said that the IDF was planning to continue striking Hamas leaders and that the recent IDF attack was a great operational and intelligence achievement.

    Thursday morning Hamas announced that three of its senior commanders - Mohammed Abu Shammala, Raed Attar and Mohammed Barhoum - were killed in the IDF bombing of a house in the town of Rafah in southern Gaza.

    A five-day truce in Gaza between the Palestinian Hamas movement and Israel collapsed on August 19, some eight hours before the official deadline. Israel blamed Hamas militants for disputing the ceasefire and ordered the army to resume airstrikes against the Gaza Strip.

    On July 8, Israel launched an offensive against the Hamas movement in response to the military group’s rocket attacks. On July 17, Israel switched to a ground offensive to destroy the network of Hamas tunnels along Gaza’s Israeli border. Since the start of the conflict, more than 2,000 Palestinians, mostly civilians, 66 Israelis and a Thai national have been killed.

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    Re: Israeli–Palestinian conflict:

    Post  Hannibal Barca on Fri Aug 22, 2014 12:03 pm

    Things not looking well at all for the Jews....

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    Re: Israeli–Palestinian conflict:

    Post  Mike E on Fri Aug 22, 2014 1:10 pm

    Well, you know what they say about fighting Guerrillas... It is no easy task, even with advanced systems.

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