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    Post  George1 on Fri Aug 01, 2014 2:14 pm

    Russian Diplomats Evacuate Over 150 People from Gaza to Egypt

    GAZA, August 1 (RIA Novosti) – Russian diplomats have evacuated more than 150 Russians and foreigners to Egypt from the Gaza Strip where Israel has been holding military operations for almost a month, witnesses told RIA Novosti Thursday.

    The group included 69 Russians, six natives from Crimea who have not yet received their Russian passports, 37 Ukrainians, 17 Kazakhs, five Moldovans, four Belarusians, three Germans and five Palestinians. The group is mostly women and children, she added.

    This is the second evacuation organized by Russian diplomats. The first group consisting of over 70 people, mostly Russian and Ukrainian citizens, was taken to Egypt two weeks ago.

    Some 500 Russians are believed to currently live in the Gaza Strip.

    At least 1,032 Palestinians have been killed in Israel’s Operation Protective Edge and ground invasion into the Gaza Strip, including 219 children and 117 women, a nongovernmental organization based in the Gaza Strip, Al Mezan Centre for Human Rights, said earlier this week.

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    Post  George1 on Fri Aug 01, 2014 2:26 pm

    Israel army confirms Palestine’s Hamas breaks ceasefire

    TEL-AVIV, August 01./ITAR-TASS/. Israeli army confirmed that Palestinian movement Hamas had foiled the ceasefire that started on Friday.

    “On Friday morning Hamas militants have shelled our forces in the south of the Gaza Strip violating the ceasefire so,” the Israeli army press service told ITAR-TASS.

    “We suspect that an Israeli army soldier was kidnapped and are taking all effort to find him,” the press service said.

    Earlier in the day, Israeli Foreign Ministry accused Hamas of breaking a 72-hour humanitarian ceasefire which began at 5 am GMT. “Two hours and four minutes passed before Hamas had breached the ceasefire which both conflicting parties agreed on to have started in the morning,” the Israeli foreign political agency said in an official statement. Hamas movement “has violated or rejected already the eighth ceasefire,” the ministry said.

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    Post  Hannibal Barca on Fri Aug 01, 2014 6:32 pm

    I have information which indicate that israhells had a tough schedule this time against Hamas. Seems like this terrorists are so useless that even dedicated opposition with bare hands can cause them serious problems. Not much of a surprise, with no civilization, no country, no race and no god men have no passion to fight. Paper money for their distant Zionist overlords don't sound convenient enough.

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    Post  George1 on Sat Aug 02, 2014 3:29 am

    Moscow Calls for Resumption of Humanitarian Ceasefire in Gaza
    Topic: Israeli-Palestinian conflict: standoff continues

    MOSCOW, August 1 (RIA Novosti) — The Russian Foreign Ministry on Friday urged Israel and Palestinian militants to 'break the vicious cycle of violence' and resume a humanitarian ceasefire in the Gaza Strip.

    “Moscow calls on the warring sides to show common sense and stop armed hostilities. All efforts should be made…to break the vicious cycle of violence, which is leading to civilian deaths and the colossal destruction of civilian infrastructure," the ministry said in a statement.

    Russia will continue providing assistance aimed at de-escalating the conflict in the Gaza Strip, the ministry said.

    Hostilities resumed in the Gaza Strip hours after the ceasefire that was supposed to last three days was announced early on Friday, with Israel and Hamas placing the blame on each other for the disruption of the truce. At least 40 Palestinians and two Israeli soldiers were killed as fighting again broke out in the war-torn enclave.

    At least five Palestinians have been killed as a result of the Israeli attacks near the cities of Rafah and Khan Yunis on Friday, according to the Safa news agency. Witnesses said the Kerem Shalom border crossing near Rafah was under mortar attack. Explosions and shooting could be heard to the east of Gaza.

    Mousa Abu Marzook, one of Hamas' leaders, blamed Israel, saying they were ordered not to open fire unless the opposing side did, according to local media.

    Israel launched Operation Protective Edge to put an end to rocket fire from Gaza on July 8. On July 17, the Israeli Army switched to a ground assault largely aimed at locating and destroying rocket launchers and underground tunnels. The ceasefire allowed Israel to continue the destruction of tunnels that Palestinian militants use to smuggle arms and secretly enter Israeli territory.

    More than 1,400 Palestinians and nearly 60 Israelis have been killed since the offensive began.

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    Post  Hachimoto on Sat Aug 02, 2014 11:28 am

    Hamas snipping israeili soldier :





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    Post  Hachimoto on Sat Aug 02, 2014 5:58 pm

    Another one :


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    Post  George1 on Sun Aug 03, 2014 2:20 pm

    Israel’s Prime Minister Says Gaza Operation to Continue

    MOSCOW, August 2 (RIA Novosti) – Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu said on Saturday that the operation in Gaza is due to continue in line with Israel's security needs even after Hamas tunnels are destroyed, the BBC has reported.

    Netanyahu said the militant group is to pay an "intolerable price" for attacks on Israel.

    This statement comes just as hopes for negotiations on a truce going ahead in Egypt faded.

    Israel’s authorities are not planning to send a delegation to Egypt’s Cairo to negotiate on the truce with the Gaza Strip, Haaretz reported on Saturday, citing a military source.

    A military official also said that Israel will consider the ceasefire only after a containment system against attacks from the Gaza Strip will be implemented.

    Earlier on Saturday, Agence France-Presse reported that Egyptian President Abdel-Fattah Sisi called Cairo’s peace plan a real chance to put an end to the military conflict in the Gaza Strip.

    Last month, Cairo proposed a peace initiative, calling for a ceasefire followed by talks between Israel and Hamas. Tel Aviv accepted the draft deal but after long discussions Hamas rejected it.

    Hostilities resumed in the Gaza Strip on Friday, hours after the US/UN-backed ceasefire supposed to last three days was announced.

    The Israeli Army resumed the operation following the attacks by two Hamas militants, who killed two Israeli officers and perhaps took the third captive. Palestinian doctors reported 185 casualties, calling the past 24 hours the bloodiest over the four weeks of operation.

    Operation Protective Edge was launched by Israel on July 8 to put an end to rocket fire from Gaza. On July 17, the Israeli Army switched to a ground assault largely aimed at locating and destroying rocket launchers and underground tunnels.

    Nearly 1,655 Palestinians, mostly civilians, and 65 Israelis have been killed since the offensive began, according to the BBC.

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    Post  Hachimoto on Sun Aug 03, 2014 7:55 pm

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    Post  Hachimoto on Sun Aug 03, 2014 9:55 pm

    The weapon used in all this videos is this one :

    Name : Ghol / 14.5 mm / 2km range


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    Re: Israeli–Palestinian conflict:

    Post  nemrod on Sun Aug 03, 2014 11:06 pm

    Hachimoto wrote:

    Thank you very much Hachimoto.
    Here is the proof that their so-called effectiveness of their Trophy is only another hoax.
    IDF is now withdrawing from Gaza without achieving any of their initials purposes. The primary goal was at first to completly disarm resistance, expel Hamas from Gaza, install Abbas -israelis dog- militia to controll Gaza, and after, attacking Iran. The so-called argument around tunnel is just an hoax.

    One month later, nothing of these objectives are met. Yesterday, the israeli security cabinet met, and disaproved the temporary's occupation of Gaza.
    Because the zionnists realized that this kind of objective has a heavy costs, it implied several thousands israelis military losses. A cost that Israel could not afford it.

    This image prove again that the armored vehicules will be very vulnerables, hence, many soldiers could be lost.
    As Israel claimed that the total losses might be only 63 soldiers lost - a complete stupide figure-, palestinian resistance claimed that at least 130 israelis soldiers were killed. Another figures claimed the total figures of israelis losses could be reach 500. Right ? False ? Nevertheless, Israelis withdrew from Gaza without completing any of its objectives, just slaughtering about 2.000 deaths, and several thousand badly wounded.


    Nevertheless, we will have to acknoweldged that the main reward for Israel is this time the official alliance with Egypt, and peace with Saudi's tribe.
    This is the main achievement, and maybe the best prestigious reward for Israel, better than any victory against resistance.

    PS: Even the religious extrem right Debka -mossad's spokemen- acknowelged that none of objectives were achieved :
    http://debka.com/article/24158/Israeli-troop-exit-from-Gaza-without-achieving-all-goals-bodes-war-of-attrition
    It prove the disastrous situation where Israel is now.

    As the first Israel troops began pulling out of the Gaza Strip Saturday night, Aug. 2, Prime Minister Binyamin Netanyahu pledged that Operation Defense Edge would continue until security and calm are restored to all Israel’s citizens – however long it takes. But in his televised news conference, he also said: “The IDF will deploy according to the needs of Israel’s security – and only Israel’s security.”

    After expressing deep gratitude to the American people and its leaders for their support, Netanyahuu underlined the importance of the links Israel had established with regional countries as a great asset for the future.

    In the view of debkafile’s military experts, Netanyahu and Defense Minister Moshe Ya’alon have been guided in their management of the Gaza operation by four major misapprehensions:
    1. That Hamas wanted a ceasefire;

    2. That the Hamas tunnel network has been largely discovered and disabled;

    3. That Hamas will take years to recover from the thrashing the IDF administered in the 25 days of its counter-terror operation in the Gaza Strip. (Netanyahu: “We struck many thousands of terror targets and many hundreds of terrorists.”)

    4. That rocket fire will die down after Hamas fully appreciates the terrible devastation its war has inflicted on the Gaza Strip population.

    The slogans of the last four weeks reflected these assumptions: “Quiet will be met with quiet” was one, or “We shall degrade Hamas’ military strength,” and “We’ll wipe out Hamas’ entire tunnel empire.”

    But a change in tenor was apparent Saturday night: Variations on the theme of “No accommodation, only deterrence” were to be heard, as well as “No more ceasefires,” and “We’ll end the operation unilaterally as and when it suits our security needs.”
    Those ideas reflected the rationale for Israel’s decision not to send envoys to the truce talks opening in Cairo Sunday.

    Shortly before the Netanyahu-Ya’alon news conference, the parents and siblings of the captured Israeli officer, 2nd Lt, Hadar Goldin appeared before reporters for a moving appeal to the prime minister, defense minister and chief of staff not to evacuate Israeli troops from Gaza before ecovering the missing officer. His father and four siblings, all IDF officers on reserve or active service, maintained that it was unthinkable according to the most hallowed traditions of the Israeli army to abandon a serviceman in the field..
    One of the prime minister’s answers to reporters’ questions can be traced to the deep impression the Goldin family made on the public. He said the IDF will act solely according to security and no other considerations.
    The new set of war slogans are designed to soften the impact of a decision reached by the two war leaders last week, which was to pull the bulk of the troops out of the Gaza Strip and redeploy them behind the border fence in offensive formation. The Rafah sector in the south will remain beleaguered.
    As for the claim that all the tunnels will be dealt with first, debkafile reports that despite the weeks of fighting, the IDF has driven no deeper than 1-3 kilometers into the territory, leaving the western areas untouched. Therefore, the soldiers can only deal with the tunnels that come out in the eastern sector or cross under the border into Israel.
    To truly finish off the warren of passageways, the IDF needs to burrow much farther west- up to their starting points. But Hamas, with the help of Iranian and Hizballah engineers, constructed the labyrinthine system so that each tunnel forks off into another passage every few dozen or hundred meters. Some of these interconnected passageways lead under the border to places in Israel; others go further underground in Gaza.

    The system is totally baffling. IDF spokesmen have said repeatedly that the troops have more or less dealt with the tunnels, while the politicians promise this will be done. They are anxious to allay people’s visceral dread of ferocious enemies jumping out of the bowels of the earth on kibbutz lawns, a terror that has driven more people north than even the rockets.
    The truth is that only the tunnel sections reaching the Israeli border have been neutralized, whereas the honeycomb buried deep inside territory which the IDF has not reached has defied Israeli intelligence’s best efforts.And the surprises keep on coming. A capacious, cement-lined passageway leading into Israel was revealed Saturday night with two motorcycles parked inside, ready for terrorists to make a dash to their prey.

    As for the rocket fire, Hamas still holds more than a third of the 9,000 rockets with which it launched its blitz – more than enough to keep Israeli civilians within a wide radius running for cover. The IDF has seriously trashed rocket production plants, but at least one-fifth of the facilities remain functional and can continue to replenish depleted stocks.

    The assumption that Hamas will need years to recover may turn out to be a losing gamble if Iran and Hizballah decide to step in and rehabilitate their Palestinian ally from scratch.
    At all events, if the IDF pulls back the bulk of its ground forces now, with its goals only partly attained, Israel and the communities and towns bordering Gaza will soon be caught up in a lengthy war of attrition and forced to repeat the ground operation.


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    Re: Israeli–Palestinian conflict:

    Post  Hachimoto on Sun Aug 03, 2014 11:23 pm

    yr welcome nemrod.

















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    Re: Israeli–Palestinian conflict:

    Post  nemrod on Sun Aug 03, 2014 11:49 pm

    Thx Hachimoto for these photos.
    Thx, I understand better, why Israel is going to withdraw from Gaza.
    I understand better, why now the figure of Israelis death is rather near 500, than the stupid figures of 63.


    Regards.

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    Post  Werewolf on Mon Aug 04, 2014 9:21 am

    Nice find Hachimoto.

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    Post  nemrod on Mon Aug 04, 2014 12:11 pm

    Despite the evidence that the last photos showed a tank destroyed by IED, the previous post of Hachi, photo shows that the tank seems to be destroyed -or disabled ?- by anti-tank missile(s) -as I heard, you need at least 2 missiles to destroy a Merkava, each shoot will have to wait few seconds after the previous-.
    It prove again that the so-called effectiveness of the Trophy APS is a mere hoax. It could help to reduce the losses, but it could not avoid losses.

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    Post  George1 on Tue Aug 05, 2014 3:57 am

    Netanyahu to US: Don't Second Guess Me on Hamas

    WASHINGTON -- Following the quick collapse of the cease-fire in Gaza, Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu told the White House not to force a truce with Palestinian militants on Israel.

    Sources familiar with conversations between Netanyahu and senior U.S. officials, including Secretary of State John Kerry, say the Israeli leader advised the Obama administration "not to ever second guess me again" on the matter. The officials also said Netanyahu said he should be "trusted" on the issue and about the unwillingness of Hamas to enter into and follow through on cease-fire talks.

    The Obama administration on Friday condemned "outrageous" violations of an internationally brokered Gaza cease-fire by Palestinian militants and called the apparent abduction of an Israeli soldier a "barbaric" action.


    The strong reaction came as top Israeli officials questioned the effort to forge the truce, accusing the U.S. and the United Nations of being naive in assuming the radical Hamas movement would adhere with its terms. The officials also blamed the Gulf state of Qatar for not forcing the militants to comply.

    With the cease-fire in tatters fewer than two hours after it took effect with an attack that killed two Israeli troops and left a third missing, President Barack Obama demanded that those responsible release the soldier.

    Obama and other U.S. officials did not directly blame Hamas for the abduction. But they made clear they hold Hamas responsible for, or having influence over, the actions of all factions in the Gaza Strip. The language was a distinct change from Thursday when Washington was focused on the deaths of Palestinian civilians.

    "If they are serious about trying to resolve this situation, that soldier needs to be unconditionally released as soon as possible," Obama told reporters. He added that it would be difficult to revive the cease-fire without the captive's release.

    "It's going to be very hard to put a cease-fire back together again if Israelis and the international community can't feel confident that Hamas can follow through on a cease-fire commitment," he said. His comment reflected uncertainty in the U.S. and elsewhere that Hamas was actually responsible for the incident or if some other militant group was to blame.

    At the same time, Obama called the situation in Gaza "heartbreaking" and repeated calls for Israel to do more to prevent Palestinian civilian casualties.

    Despite the collapse of the truce, Obama credited Kerry for his work with the United Nations to forge one. He lamented criticism and "nitpicking" of Kerry's attempts and said the effort would continue.

    Kerry negotiated the truce with U.N. chief Ban Ki-moon in a marathon session of phone calls over several days while he was in India on an official visit. Kerry had spent much of the past two weeks in Egypt, Israel, the West Bank and France trying to mediate a cease-fire with Qatar and Turkey playing a major role because of their close ties with Hamas.

    Those efforts failed with Israel saying it could not trust Hamas and some Israelis and American pro-Israel groups complaining that the U.S. was treating the group -- a foreign terrorist organization as designated by the State Department -- as a friend.

    Late Thursday, however, Israel accepted Kerry and Ban's latest proposal, despite its reservations. Once the truce was violated, though, Israeli officials hit out at not only Hamas, but the United States and Qatar for its failure.

    An Israeli official said the Netanyahu government viewed both Hamas and Qatar as having violated the commitment given to the U.S. and the U.N. and that it expected the international community to take practical steps as part of a "strong and swift response," especially regarding the return of the abducted soldier.

    In a phone call with U.S. Ambassador to Israel Dan Shapiro, Netanyahu vented his anger, according to people familiar with the call.

    Netanyahu told Shapiro the Obama administration was "not to ever second-guess me again" and that Washington should trust his judgment on how to deal with Hamas, according to the people. Netanyahu added that he now "expected" the U.S. and other countries to fully support Israel's offensive in Gaza, according to those familiar with the call. They spoke on condition of anonymity because they were not authorized to discuss the matter by name.

    They said Netanyahu made similar points to Kerry, who himself denounced the attack as "outrageous," saying it was an affront to assurances to respect the cease-fire given to the United States and United Nations, which brokered the truce.

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    Post  magnumcromagnon on Tue Aug 05, 2014 4:16 am

    Kornet - making a mockery of Israeli tanks since 2006!

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    Israel Withdraws Most Of Its Ground Troops From Gaza Strip

    Post  nemrod on Tue Aug 05, 2014 7:07 am


    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/08/03/israel-withdraws-troops-gaza_n_5645981.html

    Israel Withdraws Most Of Its Ground Troops From Gaza Strip

    GAZA CITY, Gaza Strip (AP) — Israel withdrew most of its ground troops from the Gaza Strip on Sunday in an apparent winding down of the nearly monthlong operation against Hamas that has left more than 1,800 Palestinians and more than 60 Israelis dead.

    Even as Israel said it was close to completing its mission, heavy fighting raged in parts of Gaza, with at least 10 people killed in what U.N. and Palestinian officials said was an Israeli airstrike near a U.N. shelter. The United States lashed out at Israel, saying it was "appalled" by the "disgraceful" attack.

    And with Hamas officials vowing to continue their fight, it remained uncertain whether Israel could unilaterally end the war.

    Israel launched its military operation in Gaza on July 8 in response to weeks of heavy rocket fire, carrying out hundreds of airstrikes across the crowded seaside territory. It then sent in ground forces July 17 in what it said was a mission to destroy the tunnels used by Hamas to carry out attacks.

    Hamas has fired more than 3,000 rockets into Israel during what has turned into the bloodiest round of fighting ever between the two enemies.

    Lt. Col. Peter Lerner, an Israeli military spokesman, confirmed the bulk of ground troops had been pulled out of Gaza after the military concluded it had destroyed most of the tunnel network.

    He said Israel had detected some 30 tunnels that were dug along the border for what he called a "synchronized attack" on Israel.

    "We've caused substantial damage to this network to an extent where we've basically taken this huge threat and made it minimal," he said. The army had thousands of troops in Gaza at the height of the operation.

    In southern Israel, armored vehicles could be seen rolling slowly onto the back of large flatbed trucks near the Gaza border, while soldiers folded flags from atop a tank and rolled up their belongings and sleeping bags.

    Lerner said, however, that the operation was not over and that Israel would continue to target Hamas' rocket-firing capabilities and its ability to infiltrate Israel.

    The Israeli military said early Monday it would hold fire for a seven-hour "humanitarian window" beginning at 10 a.m. (0700 GMT), saying the truce would not apply to areas where troops were still operating. The military said it would respond to any attacks during that time.

    While Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu has vowed to press on against Hamas, he is coming under international pressure to halt the fighting because of the heavy civilian death toll.

    U.N. officials say more than three-quarters of the dead have been civilians, including the 10 people killed Sunday at a U.N. school that has been converted into a shelter in the southern town of Rafah.

    U.N. Secretary-General Ban Ki-moon called the attack a "moral outrage and a criminal act" and demanded a quick investigation, while the U.S. State Department condemned the strike in unusually strong language.

    According to witnesses, Israeli strikes hit just outside the main gates of the school. The Red Crescent, a charity, said the attack occurred while people were in line to get food from aid workers. Gaza health official Ashraf al-Kidra said in addition to the dead, 35 people were wounded.

    Robert Turner, director of operations for the U.N. Palestinian refugee agency in Gaza, said the building had been providing shelter for some 3,000 people. He said the strike killed at least one U.N. staffer.

    "The locations of all these installations have been passed to the Israeli military multiple times," Turner said. "They know where these shelters are. How this continues to happen, I have no idea."

    Inside the U.N. school's compound, several bodies, among them children, were strewn across the ground in puddles of blood. "Our trust and our fate are only in the hands of God!" one woman cried.

    The Israeli military said it had targeted three wanted militants on a motorcycle in the vicinity and was "reviewing the consequences of this strike."

    In the current round of fighting, U.N. shelters have been struck by fire seven times. UNRWA, the U.N. agency that assists Palestinian refugees, says Israel has been the source of fire in all instances. But it also has said it found caches of rockets in vacant UNRWA schools three times.

    Israel accuses Hamas of using civilian areas for cover and says the Islamic militant group is responsible for the heavy death toll because it has been using civilians as "human shields."

    Israeli artillery shells slammed into two high-rise office buildings Sunday in downtown Gaza City, police and witnesses said. Al-Kidra said more than 50 Palestinians were killed, including 10 members of one family in a single strike in the southern Gaza Strip.

    Israel said that it attacked 63 sites on Sunday and that nearly 100 rockets and mortars were fired at Israel.

    Also Sunday, the Israeli military said it found three motorcycles in one of the tunnels leading to Israel. It said the vehicles were meant to facilitate an attack against Israelis and help militants get around more quickly.

    Israeli officials said the military would reduce its ground activities in Gaza but would respond to continued attacks from Gaza with airstrikes.

    "It's not a withdrawal," Israeli Cabinet minister Amir Peretz told Channel 10 TV. "It's setting up a new line that is a more controlled line with the air force doing its work."

    In Gaza, Hamas officials said they would not halt the rocket fire without an end to an Israeli blockade of the territory that has devastated the local economy. Israel imposed the blockade in 2007, saying the measures are needed to keep Hamas from arming.

    "If Israel stops unilaterally, Hamas will declare victory and will not grant any security or truce to Israel," said one senior official, who spoke on condition of anonymity because he was discussing internal Hamas deliberations. "In this case, we are going to live under a war of attrition until a political solution is found."

    In Cairo, Egyptian and Palestinian negotiators held talks over a potential cease-fire. After accusing Hamas of repeatedly violating humanitarian cease-fire arrangements, Israel said it would not attend the talks and there was "no point" in negotiating with the militant group.

    Meanwhile, the Israeli military death toll rose to 64 after Israel announced that Hadar Goldin, a 23-year-old infantry lieutenant feared captured in Gaza, was actually killed in battle. Some 15,000 people attended his funeral Sunday.

    Israeli Defense Minister Moshe Yaalon revealed on his Facebook page Sunday that he is a distant relative of Goldin and had known him his whole life. The information was previously kept under wraps while Goldin was feared abducted.

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    Federman reported from Jerusalem. Yousur Alhlou in Jerusalem, Ibrahim Barzak in Gaza City, Mohammed Daraghmeh in Ramallah, West Bank, and Maggie Michael in Cairo contributed reporting.


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    Re: Israeli–Palestinian conflict:

    Post  Hachimoto on Tue Aug 05, 2014 5:46 pm

    Hareetz :

    Iron Dome stock of missiles is almost empty.

    The interception rate was : 1/7 .


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    Re: Israeli–Palestinian conflict:

    Post  Werewolf on Tue Aug 05, 2014 6:00 pm

    Hachimoto wrote:Hareetz :

    Iron Dome stock of missiles is almost empty.

    The interception rate was : 1/7 .


    Can you please link the source for the 1/7 interception rate?

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    Post  Hachimoto on Tue Aug 05, 2014 9:28 pm

    Werewolf wrote:
    Hachimoto wrote:Hareetz :

    Iron Dome stock of missiles is almost empty.

    The interception rate was : 1/7 .


    Can you please link the source for the 1/7 interception rate?

    ill do soon (it was on radio jenin).

    To be exact this was the HIT rate.

    Iron dome launch Tamirs only if the the calculated trajectory show the rocket will hit a populated area.

    So we are waiting for the final and most important one, the sucess rate.


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    Report: Israel would Lift Blockade, Travel Restrictions on Gaza ?

    Post  nemrod on Thu Aug 07, 2014 5:15 pm


    True ? False ?
    I don't know.

    http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/Flash.aspx/300979#.U-OXcW34IUN



    Report: Israel to Lift Blockade, Travel Restrictions on Gaza

    Israel has agreed to lift travel and import restrictions on Gaza, Egyptian sources told Palestinian news agency Ma'an Thursday - including the naval blockade and border crossing restrictions.

    However, according to the source material - in Al Quds Al-Arabi - Israel's main condition for Hamas is the total demilitarization of Gaza - something Hamas is unlikely to accept. Moreover, among Hamas's unprecedented demands are a seaport and airport, conditions both Egypt and Israel are unlikely to accept.

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    Post  Morpheus Eberhardt on Thu Aug 07, 2014 11:58 pm

    Hachimoto wrote:
    Werewolf wrote:
    Hachimoto wrote:Hareetz :

    Iron Dome stock of missiles is almost empty.

    The interception rate was : 1/7 .


    Can you please link the source for the 1/7 interception rate?

    ill do soon (it was on radio jenin).

    To be exact this was the HIT rate.

    Iron dome launch Tamirs only if the the calculated trajectory show the rocket will hit a populated area.

    So we are waiting for the final and most important one, the sucess rate.


    1/7 has to be an overestimation plus disinformation. It should be a lot lower, if not 0%.

    Do you have any evidence of an interception?

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    Re: Israeli–Palestinian conflict:

    Post  magnumcromagnon on Fri Aug 08, 2014 1:07 am

    Morpheus Eberhardt wrote:
    Hachimoto wrote:
    Werewolf wrote:
    Hachimoto wrote:Hareetz :

    Iron Dome stock of missiles is almost empty.

    The interception rate was : 1/7 .


    Can you please link the source for the 1/7 interception rate?

    ill do soon (it was on radio jenin).

    To be exact this was the HIT rate.

    Iron dome launch Tamirs only if the the calculated trajectory show the rocket will hit a populated area.

    So we are waiting for the final and most important one, the sucess rate.


    1/7 has to be an overestimation plus disinformation. It should be a lot lower, if not 0%.

    Do you have any evidence of an interception?

    Whether Iron Dome's interception rate is successful or not, it's a failure of a system largely because each missile costs $100,000 USD and are used primarily to defeat Hamas rockets that are at most cost $800 USD. A 57 mm gun system with guided shells and proximity fuzes and connected to a IAD system and that's attached to a modified semi-truck and it's truck bed container which could easily hold several thousand shells (if not tens of thousands), could do the same job at a fraction of the cost.

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    Re: Israeli–Palestinian conflict:

    Post  Hachimoto on Fri Aug 08, 2014 3:37 pm

    I'm sure their more IDF soldiers killed :


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