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    Re: Georgia Μilitary: News and Modernisation

    Post  TheGeorgian on Wed Jan 27, 2016 3:56 am

    PapaDragon wrote:
    Happy to hear it!!!

    I hope all 120 get blown up by Yemenis so that you can sell them twice as many vehicles and make even more sweet cash.

    Should make everyone happy...well except for Saudis but you know, fu*k the Saudis... lol1

    Haha, sorry won't happen. At least I doubt Saudis are that incompetent and careless.

    We also don't depend on that. Saudis have pretty much guaranteed a second contract after this one, only twice as big. So for now, money's flowing. At least it is flowing from one direction. ^^
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    Post  KoTeMoRe on Wed Jan 27, 2016 10:25 am

    TheGeorgian wrote:
    PapaDragon wrote:
    Happy to hear it!!!

    I hope all 120 get blown up by Yemenis so that you can sell them twice as many vehicles and make even more sweet cash.

    Should make everyone happy...well except for Saudis but you know, fu*k the Saudis... lol1

    Haha, sorry won't happen. At least I doubt Saudis are that incompetent and careless.

    We also don't depend on that. Saudis have pretty much guaranteed a second contract after this one, only twice as big. So for now, money's flowing. At least it is flowing from one direction. ^^

    MATV's at probably triple the price, are making nice scraps for Yemeni scrapyards. So consider yourself lucky.
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    Re: Georgia Μilitary: News and Modernisation

    Post  TheGeorgian on Wed Jan 27, 2016 12:47 pm

    KoTeMoRe wrote:
    MATV's at probably triple the price, are making nice scraps for Yemeni scrapyards. So consider yourself lucky.

    Yep, they got many more of those overpriced Merican ones to get through first. So I'm relaxed. ^^

    But I'd also like to know it's performance in actual combat tbh.
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    Re: Georgia Μilitary: News and Modernisation

    Post  TheGeorgian on Fri Jan 29, 2016 10:11 pm

    The MATV got outperformed by both the Didgori and the Lenco Bearcat btw.

    Today the first batch got loaded.




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    Re: Georgia Μilitary: News and Modernisation

    Post  TheGeorgian on Mon Mar 14, 2016 3:43 pm

    Demonstration of the DRWS-2 remote weapon station on the modernised BRDM-2



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    Re: Georgia Μilitary: News and Modernisation

    Post  TheGeorgian on Fri Mar 18, 2016 4:31 pm

    First Georgian units to be fully equipped with Georgian gear ( ballistic vests, ballistic helmets etc ) will start with the next rotation of Peacekeeping battalions ( 52nd battalion ) in Afghanistan on March 25th.

    Several export contracts are also in progress. No information on which countries gonna be supplied.

    DELTA has recently been given green light by the military and the gov to start mass production of newly developed military vests, helmets and other accessories for the armed forces as well as law enforcement agencies.

    Experience from first field deployment ( Central African Republic ) was used to improve the products and make adjustments.

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    Re: Georgia Μilitary: News and Modernisation

    Post  TheGeorgian on Thu Mar 24, 2016 5:53 pm

    52nd battalion, first unit to wear the new type IV bulletproof vests and type III-A bulletproof helmets, which will be supplied to every GAF battalion within the next few weeks and months.








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    Re: Georgia Μilitary: News and Modernisation

    Post  TheGeorgian on Thu May 26, 2016 6:38 pm

    Looks like the GMM-120 gets a carrier vehicle.

    GMM-120 Self-propelled mortar











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    Re: Georgia Μilitary: News and Modernisation

    Post  George1 on Fri May 27, 2016 7:18 am

    Georgian 120-mm self-propelled mortar, GMM-120



    http://bmpd.livejournal.com/1922449.html


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    Post  Werewolf on Fri May 27, 2016 11:03 am




    What is the tracked personal carrier on the right side called?
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    Post  KoTeMoRe on Fri May 27, 2016 12:13 pm

    Lazika...used to have a 23mm gun.
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    Re: Georgia Μilitary: News and Modernisation

    Post  max steel on Fri May 27, 2016 2:17 pm

    Georgia to Receive Air Defense Systems from France In 2017

    Citing the Head of Georgia's Armed Forces General Staff, Vakhtang Kapanadze, Russian media has reported that Georgia will begin receiving air defense systems from France next year, in January 2017. Kapanadze noted that some components of the system may arrive earlier.

    Kapanadze added that the Georgian Armed Forces would need to prepare a place for the military hardware. Georgian soldiers will train on the French systems over the upcoming months ahead of the deliveries.

    Georgia and France first reached the agreements on air-defense systems and missiles during the summer of 2015. In June 2015, at the Paris Air Show, Georgia signed a contract with ThalesRaytheonSystems and then the following month signed an agreement with missile manufacturer MBDA.

    The type of system Georgia is procuring has not been disclosed.
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    Re: Georgia Μilitary: News and Modernisation

    Post  TheGeorgian on Fri May 27, 2016 7:27 pm

    and apparently Saudis also want some of the DRWS. A deal was made for approximatly USD 32 million. I wonder for what vehicle and the price suggests the quantity is gonna be high.
    http://www.newsgeorgia.ge/arabskie-emiraty-kupili/

    Some photos of Delta's firearm display, nothing really new.



    Alternate configuration of the Satevari MSWP, not new but looks much better imo


    apparently a new 9mm AR-15 conversion. Looks like it has some MP-5 features.


    RPGL-7G and PDM-1 RPG


    underbarrel grenade launchers and hand mortar.


    Production facilities seem to be very busy. I've noticed more command vehicles for the GAF. It's good to actualy see that stuff isn't jbeing produced only for the Saudis ....



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    Re: Georgia Μilitary: News and Modernisation

    Post  TheGeorgian on Sat May 28, 2016 8:45 pm

    Short clip of GMM-120

    Analysts state that compared to Nona-S, it provides less protection/durability but better mobility especialy as of speed.

    According to dev max range of 7.1 km can be further increased to up to 8 km. Deployed and prepped in under one minute, or change position. Plus satellite linked targeting system with digital map etc

    MOD will consider buying it if ongoing tests are successful.

    In connection with this, the Lazika and GMM are considered being deployed on the export market suggesting development of the Lazika hasn't been cancelled.









    Personaly I would have liked to see the GMM-120 mounted on the Lazika in the first place because of better protection simply.


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    Post  Militarov on Tue May 31, 2016 3:06 am

    "Georgia’s State Military Scientific-Technical Center Delta has developed new GMM-120 mortar system based on a modified truck chassis , reported military-informant.com.

    The new GMM-120 mortar system is equipped with a GPS navigation system, tactical computers and tablet-secured high-level communication system. Like all mortars, it is a high-angle-of-fire weapon used for indirect fire support.
    "The GMM-120 mortar system is a new generation mortar, designed for a rapid rate of fire. GMM-120 developing to meet the potential requirements of the Georgia’s Army as well as export markets.

    crew – 6 people
    the rate of fire – 15 rounds per minute
    with a maximum rate of charge – 60 shots
    rate with long-range charge – 50 shots
    resource artillery unit – 4000 shots
    the mass of the artillery – 2000 kg
    maximum range – 7100 meters
    minimum firing range – 480 meters
    Aiming system – electromechanical.

    The main mission of STC Delta originated from the state interest of Georgia and their national defensive strategy. The main task of the center is facilitation of the development of the national military industry, design-implementation in the production of up-to-date and innovative military technology, design, creation and serial production of combat equipment and armament meeting the requirements of world tendency.

    The GMM-120 is equipped with a modern digital fire control and navigation systems. The rate of fire for the mortar system is 15 rounds per minute with a firing range from 480 m to 7,100 m. The vehicle can carried a total of 50 of mortar ammunition.

    In road position, the 120mm mortar is stored inside the vehicle. In less than few minutes, the GMM-120 can be ready to fire, and the 120mm can fire through two large hatches in the roof.

    For it’s self-protection, the GMM-120 is armed with a 12.7mm machine gun mounted at the front of the roof crew cabin."








    Source: http://defence-blog.com/army/georgia-develops-new-gmm-120-mortar-system.html
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    Post  TheGeorgian on Wed Jun 01, 2016 8:42 pm

    This is allready a bit late, but still very interesting.

    http://agenda.ge/news/53691/eng

    Testing is about to begin on a new military-grade bulletproof vest designed by Georgian students.  If successful, Georgia's State Military Scientific Centre Delta could begin producing the military protection equipment and roll out the products to Georgian soldiers serving locally and abroad.  Delta experts welcomed the young inventors from a public school in western Georgia to the scientific centre earlier this week.  

    After learning more about the uniquely designed bulletproof vest, Delta agreed to manufacture a test version of the vest for evaluation.  Manager of the Inventors Club of the Khoni Public School No.2 Mikheil Koshitadze spoke to Maestro TV about the invention. He told hosts of the Business Morning program about how his team of students had developed a personal armoured vest that prevented structural deformation upon bullet impact.  

    The young inventors said their invention featured usual bulletproof vest protection from bullets but it further safeguarded its wearer from sustaining damage from the deformed vest after it was hit by a bullet.  The team's innovative layer of cubes for the vest held air under pressure and was expected to absorb kinetic energy received by the vest upon bullet impact.  Common armoured vests prevented bullet wounds but often the wearer was still injured after the vests typically deformed two to eight centimetres inwards.  

    Koshitadze told the morning program the vest used same material as normal bulletproof armour and only differed in its construction, making its manufacturing easier.  Delta will evaluate a test version of the vest before making a decision on whether to commission it for production.  The Scientific Centre manufactured advanced defence and civilian equipment including unmanned aerial vehicles and military hardware for the Georgian Armed Forces.
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    Re: Georgia Μilitary: News and Modernisation

    Post  TheGeorgian on Mon Jun 13, 2016 5:45 pm

    DELTA claims that their new "SMG-9" is far superior to it's classical counterpart MP-5 primarily due to a simplyfied, more efficient design and supposedly even beats it in ergonomics, also better price balance. They are currently interested in developing an analogue to the MPX. Potential use within the army special forces.



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    Post  KoTeMoRe on Mon Jun 13, 2016 5:52 pm

    TheGeorgian wrote:DELTA claims that their new "SMG-9" is far superior to it's classical counterpart MP-5 primarily due to a simplyfied, more efficient design and supposedly even beats it in ergonomics, also better price balance. They are currently interested in developing an analogue to the MPX. Potential use within the army special forces.


    It's a blowback RO635. How is it superior to the MP5. For reference the RO635 is the submachinegun variant of the AR-15 system.
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    Post  TheGeorgian on Mon Jun 13, 2016 6:32 pm

    KoTeMoRe wrote:It's a blowback RO635. How is it superior to the MP5. For reference the RO635 is the submachinegun variant of the AR-15 system.

    Well it's what they've stated. I am no weapons expert but I see more similarities with the MPX - which they mention as well - than the RO635. Maybe it's just exaggeration to sell the product - maybe it in fact is an improvement over the MP5. Guess we have to wait for more details.

    You can actualy share your doubts on their fb page. They usualy do reply ^^
    https://www.facebook.com/stcdelta/
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    Post  KoTeMoRe on Mon Jun 13, 2016 7:21 pm

    TheGeorgian wrote:
    KoTeMoRe wrote:It's a blowback RO635. How is it superior to the MP5. For reference the RO635 is the submachinegun variant of the AR-15 system.

    Well it's what they've stated. I am no weapons expert but I see more similarities with the MPX - which they mention as well - than the RO635. Maybe it's just exaggeration to sell the product - maybe it in fact is an improvement over the MP5. Guess we have to wait for more details.

    You can actualy share your doubts on their fb page. They usualy do reply ^^
    https://www.facebook.com/stcdelta/

    The MPX system doesn't have a buffer tube (while the SMG-9 keeps it). It is clearly an RO635 with a proprietary mag from Glock19 (32rounds). This is a trend among people with AR-15 tooling.

    Wilson Combat/JM/DD/POE/JP Entreprise. I don't need to share my doubts. I've been on the right side of a JP Entreprise 9mm Carbine and here you can see such a weapon.



    Doesn't mean the SMG is bad, it's just fairly simple and the action is really not comparable with roller lock MP-5.
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    Post  TheGeorgian on Mon Jun 13, 2016 8:54 pm

    KoTeMoRe wrote:
    The MPX system doesn't have a buffer tube (while the SMG-9 keeps it). It is clearly an RO635 with a proprietary mag from Glock19 (32rounds). This is a trend among people with AR-15 tooling.

    Wilson Combat/JM/DD/POE/JP Entreprise. I don't need to share my doubts. I've been on the right side of a JP Entreprise 9mm Carbine and here you can see such a weapon.

    Doesn't mean the SMG is bad, it's just fairly simple and the action is really not comparable with roller lock MP-5.

    I see, very interesting and yes you are right, it's simplyfied and uses Glock mags and looks very similar. I compared it with the MPX since it was mentioned as another project. Was never into any these conversions untill now. I would still want to wait for more information though and maybe test footage, because I do agree it's a bold statement, but they do keep to it.
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    Post  KoTeMoRe on Tue Jun 14, 2016 1:38 am

    TheGeorgian wrote:
    KoTeMoRe wrote:
    The MPX system doesn't have a buffer tube (while the SMG-9 keeps it). It is clearly an RO635 with a proprietary mag from Glock19 (32rounds). This is a trend among people with AR-15 tooling.

    Wilson Combat/JM/DD/POE/JP Entreprise. I don't need to share my doubts. I've been on the right side of a JP Entreprise 9mm Carbine and here you can see such a weapon.

    Doesn't mean the SMG is bad, it's just fairly simple and the action is really not comparable with roller lock MP-5.

    I see, very interesting and yes you are right, it's simplyfied and uses Glock mags and looks very similar. I compared it with the MPX since it was mentioned as another project. Was never into any these conversions untill now. I would still want to wait for more information though and maybe test footage, because I do agree it's a bold statement, but they do keep to it.

    The biggest advantages of the "AR-9" are controls, bolt hold and balance (due to machined Aluminium). However, the system is blowback which is fairly nasty for suppressed fire and internal action. As I said, it's not better, it's just different.

    The MP-5 has flaws (mainly the charging handle that can be a PITA and sometimes lack of balance with after market rails).
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    Post  TheGeorgian on Fri Aug 26, 2016 5:14 pm

    Hm, some concerning footage but well I've tried to reason with Delta over the jumpy chassis issue several times ...

    The vehicle takes some beating with RPG-29, PKM and hand grenades after it jumped one time too much. We don't know what exactly caused it, maybe it was overloaded or already damaged or that simple design flaw but at least the protection holds up to it's promises. It wasn't designed to withstand the RPG-29 and the Houtis havin a hard time trying to burn and destroy it while the LAV got one shotted. Still, that initial failure is bad, very bad and that's because it's jumping like a horse while carrying weight. Ofc the chassis will give in after a while. They need to either fix that or use a completly different base.

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    Post  PapaDragon on Fri Aug 26, 2016 6:10 pm

    TheGeorgian wrote:Hm, some concerning footage but well I've tried to reason with Delta over the jumpy chassis issue several times ...

    The vehicle takes some beating with RPG-29, PKM and hand grenades after it jumped one time too much. We don't know what exactly caused it, maybe it was overloaded or already damaged or that simple design flaw but at least the protection holds up to it's promises. It wasn't designed to withstand the RPG-29 and the Houtis havin a hard time trying to burn and destroy it while the LAV got one shotted. Still, that initial failure is bad, very bad and that's because it's jumping like a horse while carrying weight. Ofc the chassis will give in after a while. They need to either fix that or use a completly different base.

    .............

    Don't concern yourself too much over this. Since it's the Saudis who are operating these things we can all agree that vehicles are fine and that problem is with morons inside.

    Just make sure that production lines are warmed up because I have a feeling that Saudis will be ordering fresh batch pretty soon. thumbsup
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    Post  TheGeorgian on Fri Aug 26, 2016 8:50 pm

    PapaDragon wrote:
    Just make sure that production lines are warmed up because I have a feeling that Saudis will be ordering fresh batch pretty soon. thumbsup

    Yeah them Houthis are killing while chilling. The Arab army with all it's technology doesn't seem to be a match at all. Not that I wish for it but I expect way more casualties on their side.

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