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    Re: The "I want to join the Russian Army" Thread

    Post  As Sa'iqa on Sun Nov 24, 2013 11:49 pm

    I would suggest you don't make a decision too rashly. Joining a foreign military on the other side of the world means a total change of life. You shouldn't enlist unless you have researched the topic throughly and really can't imagine doing anything else.

    Do you knoow any other language besides English e.g. German, Romanian or Ukrainian? I am a native speaker of a Slavic language so Russian si easy to me but but for people who know only English it's a nightmare.
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    Re: The "I want to join the Russian Army" Thread

    Post  Ak103 on Mon Nov 25, 2013 12:23 am

    Well I learned german i can get by but I have a friend who is a translator and hes going to help me with russian I've thought about this don't want to pass up an oppurtunity as great as this I do not fit in in america
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    Re: The "I want to join the Russian Army" Thread

    Post  Regular on Mon Nov 25, 2013 1:19 am

    Respect for Your service. Did You serve in the navy or I'm mixing something? Navy is a good place to serve in Russia, well at least it was in Soviet times. Loads of opportunities from Murmansk to Kaliningrad. How are the things today?
    I've met a person in Lithuanian navy who eventually served in Akula submarine and was stationed not far away from Murmansk. He was pensioner by the age of 34. He said there was no dedovschina in Navy at all.
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    Re: The "I want to join the Russian Army" Thread

    Post  flamming_python on Mon Nov 25, 2013 1:59 am

    Regular wrote:Respect for Your service. Did You serve in the navy or I'm mixing something? Navy is a good place to serve in Russia, well at least it was in Soviet times. Loads of opportunities from Murmansk to Kaliningrad. How are the things today?
    I've met a person in Lithuanian navy who eventually served in Akula submarine and was stationed not far away from Murmansk. He was pensioner by the age of 34. He said there was no dedovschina in Navy at all.
    Served in the Navy, Northern Fleet; not too far from Murmansk & Severomorsk.

    Dedovshchina has always been present - as in the Navy as in the Army, although they say that the army has the more hardcore 'prikols'

    It has never existed on submarines though. I talked to submariners too. They told me that anyone who didn't work to speed simply flew the hell out of there. They are such serious postings that there is no leeway and no time for fucking around or for not doing everything according to spec. Hence dedovshchina is neither needed nor can it develop in such an environment anyway.
    So that might explain why the officer told you what he did. That and the fact that dedovshchina was lesser in Soviet times anyway.

    In my unit the dedovshchina was pretty fierce back in the 90s, and for most of the 2000s too; it worked itself up quite the reputation. Poor naval firemen were beaten half to death on a daily basis by conscripts who had 1.5x their length of service; like those from the auto-platoon.
    The marines protecting the base and the sailors manning all the equipment were situated in the same barracks, on the same floor, in 2 separate sleeping chambers; separated from each other by a simple wooden door.
    Well let me put it this way - eventually a metal door was installed in that location; and it was sealed permanently.
    You don't have marines serving in the base anymore these days, but the door stayed I guess.
    There was a particularly nasty incident sometime back in 2005-2006 or so when a sailor wasn't cleaning the floor fast enough, and another sailor decided to motivate him by kicking him in the balls while he was on the floor cleaning. The sailor that was kicked lost a testicle, and the culprit ended up in a disciplinary battalion (i.e. military prison) for a good few years or so.

    But by the time I got there though it was nothing too serious, and by the time I left it was basically gone.
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    Re: The "I want to join the Russian Army" Thread

    Post  Vladimir79 on Mon Nov 25, 2013 8:31 am

    Ak103 wrote:I know this sounds crazy but hear me out first. So I dropped out and got my GED I was considering joining the us marines but personally I think Russia has a better military and there is too much politics involved even in the american military. I was researching it and Russia opened up there military to foreigners I don't know if that is still active or if it was temporary but is It possible I join? and if I could how rough would it be being an american there?
    That does sound crazy. If you gain Russian citizenship, I will tell you the secrets to becoming a paratrooper.


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    Post  flamming_python on Mon Nov 25, 2013 9:57 am

    Ak103 wrote:Thanks for the advice guys I'll start working out more and learn russian :Dfortunatley for me my dad works for the airlines so I can fly there free that will definatley help my family is from germany but lived the past 700 years in romania before moving to america aparently the part of romania they were living in was took over by the ukraine during WWII and we have all our original family in the ukraine right now anyone know a town called seletin? i cant seem to find it maybe im spelling it wrong either way that is very good news
    That's good. That sounds like Bessarabia (Moldova), although I'm not sure.
    I'm not certain if it would be more efficient for you to apply for Moldovan citizenship first and then try and join-up to the Russian military or attempt to gain Russian citizenship through it (there are certain provisions for things like that I believe); or for you to go straight for Russian citizenship.
    Do your research.

    Ak103 wrote:So If I learned the language and got my citizenship how would I go about becoming a paratrooper?
    I'm sure that Vladimir will fill you in on the specifics.

    But just in general terms - as soon as the conscription season begins, make sure you are registered with the MVD (Police) at your address; you will get a note ordering you to the Military Commision office in your local area. It will be a back-and forth process for a while; registering there, then going to have a medical examination, then a meeting with the Military Commissioner, maybe something else too - before finally being told when to turn up to be drafted.

    Try and be one of the first to go through all this in the season (there are 2 each year, beginning around April/May and October/November or so); in your meeting with the Military Commisioner tell him where you want to serve and in what forces. Ultimately the decision is up to him though. If you don't get into the paratroopers and end up somewhere else, then after about 6 months you can ask your commanders for contract-service in the VDV, you will go through the process and if everything checks out - sooner or later you will be transferred.

    Keep in mind though that even in the paratroopers there are combat roles and there are also mostly non-combat, support roles. There are conscripts involved in logistics, mechanics, driving, various instrument configuration and other such specialized roles. But everyone performs paradrops and receives combat training I believe. Make sure to insist at every step of the way, on being a rifleman, gunner or whatever it is you want to be. There will be opportunities to get into that sort of thing particularly in the first 1-2 months, and you have to be ready to grab the opportunities and not hesitate.
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    Re: The "I want to join the Russian Army" Thread

    Post  TR1 on Mon Nov 25, 2013 4:19 pm

    Get ripped so nobody fucks with you.

    Also preferably break your nose in MMA training and get a few scars.
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    Re: The "I want to join the Russian Army" Thread

    Post  Ak103 on Tue Nov 26, 2013 12:16 am

    is there a certain anti tank infantry division??
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    Re: The "I want to join the Russian Army" Thread

    Post  Ak103 on Tue Nov 26, 2013 12:18 am

    or even someone that makes the rpg missiles??
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    Re: The "I want to join the Russian Army" Thread

    Post  GarryB on Tue Nov 26, 2013 10:35 am

    Divisions are to large to be "anti tank" as such, a division will have anti tank regiments attached to it.


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    Re: The "I want to join the Russian Army" Thread

    Post  Regular on Tue Nov 26, 2013 7:23 pm

    Ak103 wrote:or even someone that makes the rpg missiles??
    So You want to work in a factory or serve in an army? And AT Division is just plain silly.

    Well if You don't fit in USA then good luck fitting in Russian army.

    Read all the information You want to know. If You are using translator it means You are doing it wrong as You should be able to have good standard of Russian.
    http://recrut.mil.ru/career/soldiering/conditions/foreigners.htm

    You want to join paratroopers? VoyskaDyadiVasi? Stroy Bat is not good for You? You know it's prestige service and there are thousands of volunteers willing to join. Think what could You offer to VDV. Don't know about physical requirements today, but in Soviet union there was height and built requirement.

    Have You ever visited Russia, do You have friends there? I suggest to watch Russian TV, movies and You will learn better than from translator. 

    Military service is not a joke it is a pride to serve. It's not a game where You can shoot all the weapons in arsenal. Shooting is only very small part. Most of the day is spent with weapon locked in gun locker. You give yourself more than You get from the service.

    I was called to serve my country and unlike most of my friends I didn't dodge. It was hard enough and with minor dedovschina and constant fights first 3 months until basic training was finished and we were mixed up. I was a simple cannon fodder before contract. To serve in infantry is fun only first 4 months and after that it's mindless rinse and repeat. There are fewer opportunities for infantry meat-heads too.
    Soldier life is not romantic at all. And floors, toilets don't clean themselves up You know. In Russian army soldier activities are even more saturated than what I've used to have. To be more useful while on duty in barracks You have to have some skills and You will get white collar duties. 
    What could be more rewarding - is to serve in armour, aviation, navy. Then You would have an opportunity to get qualification as mechanic to fix equipment, You get military driving license, You can become mechanic and so on. Your don't spend all the time in the field with runny bladder and frost bite on the fingers. Or even better Marsh brosok in summer with a GP-5 on. But here comes magic - You have to be willing to LEARN if You want to achieve something. 
    UCHIS, SALAGA, get Your GED and then try to meet all the requirements mentioned in site I've shared. 
    Good luck.
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    Re: The "I want to join the Russian Army" Thread

    Post  Regular on Tue Nov 26, 2013 7:51 pm

    I just wonder what an american salabon could do in this situation Very Happy


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    Post  TR1 on Tue Nov 26, 2013 9:49 pm

    Regular wrote:I just wonder what an american salabon could do in this situation Very Happy


    To all who don't speak Russian
    "Dedi" are trying to show who is who to new recruit. He is not threatened and shows that he has balls by words and actions.
    Hope those fucks step on a landmine.
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    Possible to serve in russia and america?

    Post  Ak103 on Wed Nov 27, 2013 1:09 am

    I was curious if its possible to serve in both militaries I currently dont exactly have the means to travel to russia and to say im inpatient would be an understatement if i enlist us army 91f (small arms repair) and serve for 4 years would i be allowed to go to russia and serve there after? I have family in moldova so i think that could help but would that be possible??
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    Re: The "I want to join the Russian Army" Thread

    Post  GarryB on Wed Nov 27, 2013 10:02 am

    I doubt it.


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    Re: The "I want to join the Russian Army" Thread

    Post  collegeboy16 on Wed Nov 27, 2013 11:08 am

    yes, but only as a double agent.
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    Re: The "I want to join the Russian Army" Thread

    Post  Regular on Wed Nov 27, 2013 12:16 pm

    I don't see how Your friends in Moldova are relevant to this at all. Maybe they are Russian peacekeepers serving in Transnistria?
    Same if I would ask some Mexicans to help me join USAF.

    I really doubt You would be allowed to join Russian army with Your oath to USA. It's nothing to do with politics.
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    Re: The "I want to join the Russian Army" Thread

    Post  Regular on Wed Nov 27, 2013 1:13 pm

    TR1 wrote:Hope those fucks step on a landmine.
    Why so harsh?
    I'm sure if those guys will push their luck against this newbie it will be simple arithmetic - "1 zvonok - 4 dzypa - 16 kentov - 32 pereloma".
    I personally lived with this crap from childhood and I think punching the nose is the best way. It's not like we are all evil or something.
    Zhisn takaya.
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    Re: The "I want to join the Russian Army" Thread

    Post  Regular on Wed Nov 27, 2013 1:24 pm

    Ak103 wrote:

    I do take it seriously and I'm 6,1
    Hey Christiano Ronaldo, put NSFW warning next time.
    I can suggest You to get some Gain Fast and build up Your mass just to look more serious. Your body type in Russian standard would be called Veshalka.
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    Re: The "I want to join the Russian Army" Thread

    Post  TR1 on Wed Nov 27, 2013 3:27 pm

    Regular wrote:
    TR1 wrote:Hope those fucks step on a landmine.
    Why so harsh?
    I'm sure if those guys will push their luck against this newbie it will be simple arithmetic -  "1 zvonok - 4 dzypa - 16 kentov - 32 pereloma".
    I personally lived with this crap from childhood and I think punching the nose is the best way. It's not like we are all evil or something.
    Zhisn takaya.
    They are not kids, and act like jackals. Nothing of value would be lost if they all pissed off, lets be honest.
    What if during one of the episodes of them attacking someone they cause a serious injury? It is possible.
    This ain't the streets.

    Plus, lets look at it this way. Dedovchina directly influences capability of army to be an effective fighting force (in training, desire of pop to be in the army, etc etc)..no different from sabotage of material stock. Punishment should be accordingly severe.
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    Re: The "I want to join the Russian Army" Thread

    Post  Regular on Wed Nov 27, 2013 4:33 pm

    Not saying it's good - but landmine remark is over the top. Disciplinary action is enough.
    Army is an institution and not streets as You said. Better control, CCTVs, more activities in free time help to minimize such things.
    Kontraktchiki don't have dedovschina at all. Extortion of money and similar things happened in professional service, but victims have more power to defend legally or they can just quit the service.

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    Good Advice

    Post  calripson on Wed Nov 27, 2013 7:43 pm

    Regular wrote:
    Ak103 wrote:

    I do take it seriously and I'm 6,1
    Hey Christiano Ronaldo, put NSFW warning next time.
    I can suggest You to get some Gain Fast and build up Your mass just to look more serious. Your body type in Russian standard would be called Veshalka.
    Yes, start lifting weights and training in some form of martial arts like Sambo or a combination of Muay Thai/BJJ. It's good advice for anyone. At your age you can put on a solid 15 pounds of muscle a year. At 6'1" you want to be at least a solid 200 pounds and up to 220 would be ideal.
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    Re: The "I want to join the Russian Army" Thread

    Post  flamming_python on Sat Nov 30, 2013 6:17 am

    Regular wrote:Hey Christiano Ronaldo, put NSFW warning next time.
    I can suggest You to get some Gain Fast and build up Your mass just to look more serious. Your body type in Russian standard would be called Veshalka.
    Man this is some funny shit Regular lol1 

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    Re: The "I want to join the Russian Army" Thread

    Post  etaepsilonk on Sat Nov 30, 2013 2:32 pm

    Regular wrote:I just wonder what an american salabon could do in this situation Very Happy


    To all who don't speak Russian
    "Dedi" are trying to show who is who to new recruit. He is not threatened and shows that he has balls by words and actions.
    Thanks for the video. The sad part is, that the whole affair would have ended pretty quickly, had only ONE ded intervened on his side Neutral 
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    Re: The "I want to join the Russian Army" Thread

    Post  Jyshky on Tue Dec 24, 2013 4:24 pm

    I know that this thread has been dead for a little time, but is it also possible to come to serve from any countries, that have some historical hate towards each other?

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