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    Re: The "I want to join the Russian Army" Thread

    Post  j.mac on Wed Oct 15, 2014 11:35 am

    Does anyone know, if you get rejected by the russian army are you still eligible for the navy?

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    Re: The "I want to join the Russian Army" Thread

    Post  George1 on Sat Nov 01, 2014 3:23 pm

    Interesting....

    Chechen conscripts begin to be drafted into Russian army first time since 1990s

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    Re: The "I want to join the Russian Army" Thread

    Post  George1 on Mon Nov 10, 2014 6:21 pm

    Nationalists want Defense Ministry to create Russia’s own ‘Foreign Legion’
    Published time: November 10, 2014 12:27
    RIA Novosti/Vitaliy Ankov

    A Liberal Democratic Party lawmaker is proposing creating military units manned exclusively by foreigners to counter the threat from radical groups such as Islamic State in Central Asia.

    MP Roman Khudyakov has requested the Defense Ministry and the Russia-led military bloc CSTO look into having within the Russian military a unit he likens to the French Foreign Legion.

    “In the Foreign Legion they have contract soldiers from 136 nations and not a single French citizen has to die in a war. Why should our soldiers die? One way or another we must answer the modern day challenges – be it global security or the threat of terrorism,” Khudyakov said in an interview with Izvestia daily.

    He said recent threats against Russia by the Islamic State group were very real and if the authorities wanted to stop the terrorists it was better to do this outside Russia’s borders and without direct participation of Russian troops.

    “The legion could be manned by Tajiks and Uzbeks with commanders and instructors being career military officers from Russia. We are already doing this in Tajikistan because all their cadets are studying in Russian military schools. We have sufficient experience and resources,” the lawmaker added.

    According to Khudyakov the project will not be expensive as even in the French Foreign Legion the monthly salary of a private soldier is less than €1000. Russian “foreign legionnaires” could receive the same allowance as Russian contract servicemen with an additional bonus of Russian citizenship after 6 years, the lawmaker suggests.

    The sponsor of the plan also emphasized its urgency in times of the “hybrid warfare” conducted by the USA.

    “The United States’ actions are full of insolence and lack any principles. They send private military companies in places where they cannot officially send their military. Wars are being waged and their government appears to have nothing to do with them. In such conditions we must act tougher and play by their rules,” the parliamentarian told the press.

    Foreign citizens are accepted in the Russian military as contract servicemen, only if they have a Russian residence permit. Candidates must be between 18 and 30 years of age, have a secondary education and successfully pass a Russian language test. The 201st Infantry Division permanently stationed in Tajikistan is largely manned by Tajik citizens under a special agreement.

    Russian lawmakers have wanted to attract more foreigners to the military by promising them citizenship after their contract term is over, but the suggestion has not yet been presented as draft legislation.

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    Re: The "I want to join the Russian Army" Thread

    Post  Werewolf on Mon Nov 10, 2014 6:33 pm

    Smells like some 5th columnist think tank work.

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    Post  Asf on Tue Nov 11, 2014 1:00 am

    https://img-fotki.yandex.ru/get/4521/94845085.7e/0_6beb8_1a1b3b69_XL.jpg

    It's about only 170 foreigners currently serving in the Russian Army. All from the ex-USSR.

    The main reason IMHO is the language - even "-stan" citizens not always speak good enough to make up their minds to leave in russian-speaking community. It's lik an additional hardship for the job hard enough already

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    Re: The "I want to join the Russian Army" Thread

    Post  George1 on Tue Nov 11, 2014 1:20 am

    Asf wrote:
    https://img-fotki.yandex.ru/get/4521/94845085.7e/0_6beb8_1a1b3b69_XL.jpg

    It's about only 170 foreigners currently serving  in the Russian Army. All from the ex-USSR.

    The main reason IMHO is the language - even "-stan" citizens not always speak good enough to make up their minds to leave in russian-speaking community. It's lik an additional hardship for the job hard enough already

    Citizens from Asian ex-soviet republics, Belorussians, Armenians, Ukraine Russians and even Serbians could join a possible Russian foreign legion army

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    Post  Asf on Tue Nov 11, 2014 1:25 am

    j.mac wrote:Does anyone know, if you get rejected by the russian army are you still eligible for the navy?

    Sorry, missed your post.

    What do you mean by reject? Health problems or bad shape? It depends greatly on the branch of service you want to join not the army or navy. Say, if you are unfit for VDV, most likely you won't be good enough for naval infantry. But if you was rejected from serving, say, a special purpose recon unit you can be fit to serve as a regular tankman or seaman. There are different categories, you know.
    If you are physically fit for the service and have no other legal problems, you can even try to join different similar units in one branch as far as I know. It's because of centralized nature of military commissariats (MoD's offices which are in charge of personel issues). SO, if you was found you unfit for some kind (say, using drugs) you aren't allowed to join any of the Army or Navy. But, on the other hand, it seems like you can try another commissariat if you get rejected in one - as long as you aren't a russian citizen (as you aren't supposed to have a file and so commissariats aren't suppose to exchange information about you) - but it's only my guess-work.

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    Post  Asf on Tue Nov 11, 2014 1:26 am

    Citizens from Asian ex-soviet republics, Belorussians, Armenians, Ukraine Russians and even Serbians could join a possible Russian foreign legion army
    They can join the Army now - why they don't do that? No kepi blanc? Very Happy

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    Re: The "I want to join the Russian Army" Thread

    Post  j.mac on Sat Nov 15, 2014 12:59 am

    Asf wrote:
    j.mac wrote:Does anyone know, if you get rejected by the russian army are you still eligible for the navy?

    Sorry, missed your post.

    What do you mean by reject? Health problems or bad shape? It depends greatly on the branch of service you want to join not the army or navy. Say, if you are unfit for VDV, most likely you won't be good enough for naval infantry. But if you was rejected from serving, say, a special purpose recon unit you can be fit to serve as a regular tankman or seaman. There are different categories, you know.
    If you are physically fit for the service and have no other legal problems, you can even try to join different similar units in one branch as far as I know. It's because of centralized nature of military commissariats (MoD's offices which are in charge of personel issues). SO, if you was found you unfit for some kind (say, using drugs) you aren't allowed to join any of the Army or Navy. But, on the other hand, it seems like you can try another commissariat if you get rejected in one - as long as you aren't a russian citizen (as you aren't supposed to have a file and so commissariats aren't suppose to exchange information about you) - but it's only my guess-work.

    Thank you, and well if i were to be rejected it would be because of my back, it's not a problem as i've never had back pain and my spine curves very mildly. According to some people on this forum they don't even remember the medical doctors checking the back for my issue.
    That foreign legion article seems very good, I think russia would benefit from a legion, expendable troops they can send out to a war zone, no questions asked just follow orders and get the job done without having to spill one drop of russian blood. However I think they should recruit everyone, not just people from ex soviet countries otherwise it wouldn't be much of a foreign legion, but thats just my opinion Wink

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    Re: The "I want to join the Russian Army" Thread

    Post  George1 on Wed Nov 26, 2014 2:08 am

    First ethnic Chechen recruits after 1992


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    Re: The "I want to join the Russian Army" Thread

    Post  sepheronx on Wed Nov 26, 2014 2:33 am

    When did Dennis Quaid join the Russian army?

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    Re: The "I want to join the Russian Army" Thread

    Post  TR1 on Wed Nov 26, 2014 2:37 am

    That's an epic photo.


    Those Chechens don't even look that Chechen in the photo.

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    Re: The "I want to join the Russian Army" Thread

    Post  flamming_python on Fri Nov 28, 2014 10:57 pm

    j.mac wrote:Does anyone know, if you get rejected by the russian army are you still eligible for the navy?

    No

    TR1 wrote:That's an epic photo.

    Those Chechens don't even look that Chechen in the photo.

    You try finding me some Slavic Russians with that huge nose & eternal 5 o'clock shadow beard combo What a Face

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    Joining the russian military or gru and the possibility of suffering dedovshchina

    Post  mx109 on Fri Dec 19, 2014 2:09 am

    so im considering the possibility of Joining the russian military or gru  and but im wondering what is the possibility of  suffering dedovshchina im an american high school senior son of immigrants disenchanted with the usa
    What are my chances i just need more information

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    Re: The "I want to join the Russian Army" Thread

    Post  Regular on Fri Dec 19, 2014 1:57 pm

    mx109 wrote:so im considering the possibility of Joining the russian military or gru  and but im wondering what is the possibility of  suffering dedovshchina im an american high school senior son of immigrants disenchanted with the usa
    What are my chances i just need more information
    Lurk more.
    Chances of dedovschina in GRU is almost as slim as Your chances joining them. Its not that they are desperate for fresh greenhorns. If You afraid of dedovschina do some physical combat training, mma preferably. Good luck

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    Re: The "I want to join the Russian Army" Thread

    Post  Kyo on Sat Jan 03, 2015 6:48 pm

    President Putin has signed a decree which lets foreign citizens serve in the Russian army as contractors.

    http://rt.com/news/219563-putin-army-foreigners-contractors/

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    Post  mx109 on Sun Jan 25, 2015 5:57 pm

    This came up the other day as i was talking to someone dedovoschina is it prevelant anymore and also training and as far as corruption how bad considering i didn't know to respond

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    Re: The "I want to join the Russian Army" Thread

    Post  sepheronx on Sun Jan 25, 2015 6:25 pm

    mx109 wrote:This came up the other day as i was talking to someone dedovoschina  is it prevelant anymore and also training and as far as corruption how bad considering i didn't know to respond

    This has been asked so many times already.... there should be another thread about this.

    Does dedovoschina exist still? From what I heard, a little bit. Some groups still have them. But you get this in US and British army as well (and Canadian Airborn when we still had them, they got disbanded for how horrific they can be). For contract soldiers I heard it is pretty much none existent since everyone that is a contract soldier is clearly there for making money and doing their job.

    Flaming python was a conscript. He mentioned already what it was like for him.

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    Re: The "I want to join the Russian Army" Thread

    Post  mx109 on Sun Jan 25, 2015 6:44 pm

    i dont mean to offend it was just a question im wondering what about training and the corruption they alwas site here

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    Re: The "I want to join the Russian Army" Thread

    Post  GarryB on Mon Jan 26, 2015 9:59 am

    The western media will over emphasise corruption and bullying in Russia... because anything that makes Russia look bad is good in the west.

    Some of it is tradition and some of it is not even corruption... for instance... there are all sorts of claims about Putin having enormous bank balances... but then Dick Cheney left office to a very good paying job at Halliburton... a construction company that basically rebuilds all the countries the US has bombed in the last decade or three... Halliburton has had government contracts worth 40 billion dollars since Dick was there... if that isn't corruption I don't know what is.


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    Re: The "I want to join the Russian Army" Thread

    Post  sepheronx on Mon Jan 26, 2015 2:47 pm

    GarryB wrote:The western media will over emphasise corruption and bullying in Russia... because anything that makes Russia look bad is good in the west.

    Some of it is tradition and some of it is not even corruption... for instance... there are all sorts of claims about Putin having enormous bank balances... but then Dick Cheney left office to a very good paying job at Halliburton... a construction company that basically rebuilds all the countries the US has bombed in the last decade or three... Halliburton has had government contracts worth 40 billion dollars since Dick was there... if that isn't corruption I don't know what is.

    Old man Dick actually was an employee of Halliburton while he was in office, a major share holder at least. So technically, during his vp tenure, he was a billionair.

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    Re: The "I want to join the Russian Army" Thread

    Post  Werewolf on Mon Jan 26, 2015 3:40 pm

    sepheronx wrote:
    GarryB wrote:The western media will over emphasise corruption and bullying in Russia... because anything that makes Russia look bad is good in the west.

    Some of it is tradition and some of it is not even corruption... for instance... there are all sorts of claims about Putin having enormous bank balances... but then Dick Cheney left office to a very good paying job at Halliburton... a construction company that basically rebuilds all the countries the US has bombed in the last decade or three... Halliburton has had government contracts worth 40 billion dollars since Dick was there... if that isn't corruption I don't know what is.

    Old man Dick actually was an employee of Halliburton while he was in office, a major share holder at least. So technically, during his vp tenure, he was a billionair.

    This is already entire state corruption when it is legal that politicians who get already paid around million or more can have a second job completley open and "legal", people don't really expect that they will work in Walmart to raise their income. I have a friend and he is naive to say the least, he has no problems that our german politicians have 2nd jobs even in revealed cases like with Steinbrück who gets 75% more in his lobbyist job at Mercedes than he does as politician. That is open corruption and nothing more that legalized lobbyism which is defacto State legalized corruption. We in the west call russia corrupt because most of the time it is convinient to label them in every bad light it is possible to portray but in our countries which are without doubt the most corrupt by several times fold what russia has don't call it corruption at most we say lobbyism and like it is treated here in our controlled MSM in germany when they speak about Lobbyism in germany they make same verbal excuses that most things about the so called german lobbyism is conspiracy theories. This regime is disgusting.

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    Re: The "I want to join the Russian Army" Thread

    Post  j.mac on Thu Jan 29, 2015 1:06 am

    mx109 wrote:This came up the other day as i was talking to someone dedovoschina  is it prevelant anymore and also training and as far as corruption how bad considering i didn't know to respond

    I'm British and I don't know much, but from what I've heard dedovschina is no where as bad as it used to be. If someone can't handle a beating though then military life is probably not for them I think.

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    Post  flamming_python on Mon Feb 23, 2015 2:14 am

    j.mac wrote:
    mx109 wrote:This came up the other day as i was talking to someone dedovoschina  is it prevelant anymore and also training and as far as corruption how bad considering i didn't know to respond

    I'm British and I don't know much, but from what I've heard dedovschina is no where as bad as it used to be. If someone can't handle a beating though then military life is probably not for them I think.
    Pretty much.

    You still hoping to join the Russian army? What's your progress?

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    Re: The "I want to join the Russian Army" Thread

    Post  suzu on Wed May 13, 2015 12:43 pm

    Hello all.
    Would love to hear how your journey is going jmac, I'm in a similar situation myself !

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