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    Re: The "I want to join the Russian Army" Thread

    Post  sepheronx on Mon Jan 26, 2015 2:47 pm

    GarryB wrote:The western media will over emphasise corruption and bullying in Russia... because anything that makes Russia look bad is good in the west.

    Some of it is tradition and some of it is not even corruption... for instance... there are all sorts of claims about Putin having enormous bank balances... but then Dick Cheney left office to a very good paying job at Halliburton... a construction company that basically rebuilds all the countries the US has bombed in the last decade or three... Halliburton has had government contracts worth 40 billion dollars since Dick was there... if that isn't corruption I don't know what is.

    Old man Dick actually was an employee of Halliburton while he was in office, a major share holder at least. So technically, during his vp tenure, he was a billionair.
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    Re: The "I want to join the Russian Army" Thread

    Post  Werewolf on Mon Jan 26, 2015 3:40 pm

    sepheronx wrote:
    GarryB wrote:The western media will over emphasise corruption and bullying in Russia... because anything that makes Russia look bad is good in the west.

    Some of it is tradition and some of it is not even corruption... for instance... there are all sorts of claims about Putin having enormous bank balances... but then Dick Cheney left office to a very good paying job at Halliburton... a construction company that basically rebuilds all the countries the US has bombed in the last decade or three... Halliburton has had government contracts worth 40 billion dollars since Dick was there... if that isn't corruption I don't know what is.

    Old man Dick actually was an employee of Halliburton while he was in office, a major share holder at least. So technically, during his vp tenure, he was a billionair.

    This is already entire state corruption when it is legal that politicians who get already paid around million or more can have a second job completley open and "legal", people don't really expect that they will work in Walmart to raise their income. I have a friend and he is naive to say the least, he has no problems that our german politicians have 2nd jobs even in revealed cases like with Steinbrück who gets 75% more in his lobbyist job at Mercedes than he does as politician. That is open corruption and nothing more that legalized lobbyism which is defacto State legalized corruption. We in the west call russia corrupt because most of the time it is convinient to label them in every bad light it is possible to portray but in our countries which are without doubt the most corrupt by several times fold what russia has don't call it corruption at most we say lobbyism and like it is treated here in our controlled MSM in germany when they speak about Lobbyism in germany they make same verbal excuses that most things about the so called german lobbyism is conspiracy theories. This regime is disgusting.

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    Re: The "I want to join the Russian Army" Thread

    Post  j.mac on Thu Jan 29, 2015 1:06 am

    mx109 wrote:This came up the other day as i was talking to someone dedovoschina  is it prevelant anymore and also training and as far as corruption how bad considering i didn't know to respond

    I'm British and I don't know much, but from what I've heard dedovschina is no where as bad as it used to be. If someone can't handle a beating though then military life is probably not for them I think.
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    Re: The "I want to join the Russian Army" Thread

    Post  flamming_python on Mon Feb 23, 2015 2:14 am

    j.mac wrote:
    mx109 wrote:This came up the other day as i was talking to someone dedovoschina  is it prevelant anymore and also training and as far as corruption how bad considering i didn't know to respond

    I'm British and I don't know much, but from what I've heard dedovschina is no where as bad as it used to be. If someone can't handle a beating though then military life is probably not for them I think.
    Pretty much.

    You still hoping to join the Russian army? What's your progress?
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    Post  suzu on Wed May 13, 2015 12:43 pm

    Hello all.
    Would love to hear how your journey is going jmac, I'm in a similar situation myself !
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    Re: The "I want to join the Russian Army" Thread

    Post  Book. on Fri May 15, 2015 6:16 am

    I think student edu better. Learn the language. the culture. the custom. try 1-2 semster.

    Here English degree sample.

    University of Nizhni Novgorod
    http://www.unn.ru/eng/academic-programmes/degree-programmes

    Pre-University Program (technical) in English
    http://iie.tpu.ru/en/3_preparatory_course_en.php

    Army servce done? degree help job later
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    Post  suzu on Fri May 15, 2015 11:57 am

    ^
    Novogorod link is excellent.

    спасибо!
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    Re: The "I want to join the Russian Army" Thread

    Post  Captain Nemo on Fri May 15, 2015 1:07 pm

    Did you know that Napoleon tried to join the Russian army a couple of times, but was refused...
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    Post  Werewolf on Fri May 15, 2015 1:09 pm

    Captain Nemo wrote:Did you know that Napoleon tried to join the Russian army a couple of times, but was refused...

    And his last attempt to get into russia broke his neck...
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    Re: The "I want to join the Russian Army" Thread

    Post  franco on Fri Jun 05, 2015 11:35 pm

    New Russian Army recruitment video;
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?t=21&v=XMjuYpVf1W8
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    Post  2SPOOKY4U on Sun Jul 19, 2015 6:29 pm

    Captain Nemo wrote:Did you know that Napoleon tried to join the Russian army a couple of times, but was refused...

    Wait, what?

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    Post  par far on Mon Jul 20, 2015 3:19 pm

    Captain Nemo wrote:Did you know that Napoleon tried to join the Russian army a couple of times, but was refused...


    Imagine if they get him join, the Russian empire would have stretched from the far east of modern Russian all the way to Britain and Iceland and would have included most of Europe.
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    Re: The "I want to join the Russian Army" Thread

    Post  suzu on Wed Aug 26, 2015 12:10 am

    I have gathered enough funds to study the russian language for a year in Russia.
    The course compromises of 10 hours a week of class time, and of course home study as well.
    I will learn military terms and language in my own time as well. Immersion via living in the country also helps speed up the process of fluency

    Anyone with past experience, do you feel this is sufficient time to get a functional understanding of Russian to serve in the army? Of course I will continue to learn whilst serving

    спасибо!

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    Post  calripson on Wed Aug 26, 2015 3:44 am

    Have you been to Russia before ? How proficient are you in learning languages ? I know ex-pats that lived in Russia for 10 years and "studied" the language and were barely conversational - enough to get by. Russian is a difficult language and even among Russians the difference in background, region, and education is easily discernible to a Russian speaker. Your odds of ever speaking fluently or like a native are close to nil, but you can learn enough to function there as a foreigner trying to speak Russian - probably with a very noticeable accent.
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    Re: The "I want to join the Russian Army" Thread

    Post  flamming_python on Wed Aug 26, 2015 9:12 am

    suzu wrote:I have gathered enough funds to study the russian language for a year in Russia.
    The course compromises of 10 hours a week of class time, and of course home study as well.
    I will learn military terms and language in my own time as well. Immersion via living in the country also helps speed up the process of fluency

    Anyone with past experience, do you feel this is sufficient time to get a functional understanding of Russian to serve in the army? Of course I will continue to learn whilst serving

    спасибо!

    With some effort, you will have a rudimentary grasp on things and will be able to hold a conversation after a year of living/study here.

    I know people who've become quite fluent after say 2 years here. It all depends on your effort and immersion into social life here.

    What you.need for the Russian army I dunno.
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    Post  suzu on Wed Aug 26, 2015 11:32 am

    calripson wrote:Have you been to Russia before ? How proficient are you in learning languages ? I know ex-pats that lived in Russia for 10 years and "studied" the language and were barely conversational - enough to get by. Russian is a difficult language and even among Russians the difference in background, region, and education is easily discernible to a Russian speaker. Your odds of ever speaking fluently or like a native are close to nil, but you can learn enough to function there as a foreigner trying to speak Russian - probably with a very noticeable accent.

    no experience learning a language other than english because my parents felt I didn't need to learn my homelands tongue >.<. I do understand Russian language is quite complex to get around, as I've bought a book to learn a bit in the meantime.

    @flamming_python appreciate the answer. Did you experience anyone with less than stellar Russian whilst in your service? If so how did they fare?

    Thanks for the answers
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    Re: The "I want to join the Russian Army" Thread

    Post  VladimirSahin on Wed Aug 26, 2015 10:36 pm

    Learn the language, If you really dedicate yourself you can learn basic Russian even in less than a year. I have studied some languages with different alphabets compared to Cyrillic but in terms of learning a whole new alphabet I would say ours is easier then all other non-Latin languages. Some personal questions you can PM me if you want, Do you know any other languages? Are you familiar with foreign military terms (foreign being non-Russian btw) Just these can help you qualify for special service, But you must be a Russian citizen first.
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    Post  suzu on Mon Aug 31, 2015 5:15 am

    VladimirSahin wrote:Learn the language, If you really dedicate yourself you can learn basic Russian even in less than a year. I have studied some languages with different alphabets compared to Cyrillic but in terms of learning a whole new alphabet I would say ours is easier then all other non-Latin languages. Some personal questions you can PM me if you want, Do you know any other languages? Are you familiar with foreign military terms (foreign being non-Russian btw) Just these can help you qualify for special service, But you must be a Russian citizen first.

    Cheers for the reply
    Cyrillic was actually very easy to learn for me. Can read Russian newspapers phonetically (slowly) now. Unfortunately can't PM as of yet because I haven't reached the post limit. Am quite pleased to hear I would be eligible for try special services after the 5 years of service.

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    Re: The "I want to join the Russian Army" Thread

    Post  VladimirSahin on Mon Aug 31, 2015 10:37 pm

    suzu wrote:
    VladimirSahin wrote:Learn the language, If you really dedicate yourself you can learn basic Russian even in less than a year. I have studied some languages with different alphabets compared to Cyrillic but in terms of learning a whole new alphabet I would say ours is easier then all other non-Latin languages. Some personal questions you can PM me if you want, Do you know any other languages? Are you familiar with foreign military terms (foreign being non-Russian btw) Just these can help you qualify for special service, But you must be a Russian citizen first.

    Cheers for the reply
    Cyrillic was actually very easy to learn for me. Can read Russian newspapers phonetically (slowly) now. Unfortunately can't PM as of yet because I haven't reached the post limit. Am quite pleased to hear I would be eligible for try special services after the 5 years of service.


    After 5 years of service, You can get into good ranks too. And when I meant PM I didn't mean in Russian Very Happy I meant if you have any other questions. And thank you for even contemplating on joining the Russian armed forces. We has some people here who don't even give a sh**. Having a foreigner wanting to serve, Makes me proud but also ashamed that we have people who even avoid their 1 year mandatory service.

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    Non Russian joining the Russian army?

    Post  Crisvb3965 on Sat Sep 05, 2015 4:44 am

    Hi so I'm a southamerican but live in the U.S . Chilean and I want to join the army when I get out of highschool. But I'm actually thinking of dropping out. The only thing that stops me is that the Chilean army you need to finish highschool. And I've always been admired with the Russian. I really want to join the Russian army. If I start learning Russian would I still be accepted? Even if I don't have a citizen ? Also the Russian army has a better trained army. And I want the best training there is. Chilean army . I hate to say this but the Chilean army training is not good. I which it could be better. Also would I need to finish highschool to join the Russian army?im thinking of joining at 17 which there isn't that much left.

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    Russian army for South American?

    Post  Crisvb3965 on Sat Sep 05, 2015 5:24 am

    So I want to join the Russian army . Is there any way I can? I'm from chile but live in the U.S and I want to join . Do I need to finish highschool? I do boxing so I'm pretty fit. Anyone who I can talk to?
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    Re: The "I want to join the Russian Army" Thread

    Post  George1 on Sat Sep 05, 2015 5:43 am

    Read the rules and introduce yourself first

    http://www.russiadefence.net/f6-member-introductions-and-rules


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    Post  Crisvb3965 on Mon Sep 07, 2015 12:21 pm

    Oh okay and do you know by any chance of i go to the Russian Embassy if they can help me?
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    Re: The "I want to join the Russian Army" Thread

    Post  George1 on Mon Sep 07, 2015 12:29 pm

    Crisvb3965 wrote:
    Oh okay and do you know by any chance of i go to the Russian Embassy if they can help me?

    i am not from russia, perhaps some other friends could answer on this


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    Re: The "I want to join the Russian Army" Thread

    Post  ult on Mon Sep 07, 2015 5:49 pm

    The foreigners can serve in the Russian army, but they have to know Russian language. They must be at least 18 years old and not older than 30. They shouldn't have previous convictions. The first contract is for 5 years, available ranks are private and sergeant. They can apply at military registration and enlistment office or directly at the military unit they want to serve in.

    http://lenta.ru/news/2015/01/02/inostranets/

    On the official website there is a list of 10 steps required.

    http://stat.mil.ru/enlistment_contract/send_form.htm

    The questionnaire:
    http://mil.ru/files/morf/Anketa.rtf

    For example here is a list of required documents.

    http://mil.ru/enlistment_contract/docs.htm

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