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    Post  Karkota on Thu Aug 28, 2014 12:20 am

    Vann7 wrote:
    Karkota wrote:So now that foreigners can officially join the Russian army, is there any list available of what units/types of units they can and cannot join? Or would all contract units be available, as foreigners have to be contract soldiers?

    here is one unit..



    Awesome video, had never seen it before. So foreigners can join the Spetsnaz? I ask because I'm not sure if I was just not paying attention, or were there no foreigners in the video?

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    Post  Swede55 on Thu Aug 28, 2014 2:43 am

    Even Russians don't want to join the Russian army, so why would a foreigner? If you want an adventure, go work in the Bakken oilfield or go fishing in Alaska, at least they will pay you.
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    Re: The "I want to join the Russian Army" Thread

    Post  Viktor on Thu Aug 28, 2014 3:27 am

    Swede55 wrote:Even Russians don't want to join the Russian army, so why would a foreigner?  If you want an adventure, go work in the Bakken oilfield or go fishing in Alaska, at least they will pay you.

    Perhaps in 90ies and early 2000 but as of lately Russian army has become a hit amont Russians because of raising pay and benefits and also investment and sucessful dealing with

    situation. We are talking about second best army in the World.
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    Re: The "I want to join the Russian Army" Thread

    Post  magnumcromagnon on Thu Aug 28, 2014 5:36 am

    Viktor wrote:
    Swede55 wrote:Even Russians don't want to join the Russian army, so why would a foreigner?  If you want an adventure, go work in the Bakken oilfield or go fishing in Alaska, at least they will pay you.

    Perhaps in 90ies and early 2000 but as of lately Russian army has become a hit amont Russians because of raising pay and benefits and also investment and sucessful dealing with

    situation. We are talking about second best army in the World.

    2nd best? To whom? Some Russian Army accomplishments:

    1.) Destruction of the Ottoman Empire (revenge for the destruction of the Byzantine Empire).

    2.) Destruction of Napoleanic France.

    3.) Destruction of Nazi Germany.

    4.) Fought off the British, French, and Ottoman Empires simultaneously during the Crimean War

    ...The U.S. Navy is the best Navy in the world, the U.S. Army other hand has had better funding than the Russian equivalent but not the prestige of accomplishments the Russian Army has, and the Russian Army has better air defense assets to nullify airpower.
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    Re: The "I want to join the Russian Army" Thread

    Post  Mike E on Thu Aug 28, 2014 6:23 am

    I wouldn't say the "best", but the largest is true... (Their armament is crap, and far inferior to Russia's and even China's!)
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    Post  Hannibal Barca on Thu Aug 28, 2014 7:13 pm

    Viktor wrote:
    Swede55 wrote:Even Russians don't want to join the Russian army, so why would a foreigner?  If you want an adventure, go work in the Bakken oilfield or go fishing in Alaska, at least they will pay you.

    Perhaps in 90ies and early 2000 but as of lately Russian army has become a hit amont Russians because of raising pay and benefits and also investment and sucessful dealing with

    situation. We are talking about second best army in the World.

    Downvote imminent in due course.
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    Post  Regular on Fri Aug 29, 2014 1:59 am

    Swede55 wrote:Even Russians don't want to join the Russian army, so why would a foreigner?  If you want an adventure, go work in the Bakken oilfield or go fishing in Alaska, at least they will pay you.
    To get some well paid jobs You have to serve. There are some nice gov jobs in Russia too, You can transition to them straight after the service. But you are right, there is not much adventure Very Happy It gets boring soon. Military service is not entertainment, it's not safari. It's duty.
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    Re: The "I want to join the Russian Army" Thread

    Post  George1 on Fri Aug 29, 2014 11:12 am

    magnumcromagnon wrote:
    Viktor wrote:
    Swede55 wrote:Even Russians don't want to join the Russian army, so why would a foreigner?  If you want an adventure, go work in the Bakken oilfield or go fishing in Alaska, at least they will pay you.

    Perhaps in 90ies and early 2000 but as of lately Russian army has become a hit amont Russians because of raising pay and benefits and also investment and sucessful dealing with

    situation. We are talking about second best army in the World.

    2nd best? To whom? Some Russian Army accomplishments:

    1.) Destruction of the Ottoman Empire (revenge for the destruction of the Byzantine Empire).

    2.) Destruction of Napoleanic France.

    3.) Destruction of Nazi Germany.

    4.) Fought off the British, French, and Ottoman Empires simultaneously during the Crimean War

    ...The U.S. Navy is the best Navy in the world, the U.S. Army other hand has had better funding than the Russian equivalent but not the prestige of accomplishments the Russian Army has, and the Russian Army has better air defense assets to nullify airpower.

    Ottoman Empire was destructed by World War I. Not by Russia
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    Re: The "I want to join the Russian Army" Thread

    Post  magnumcromagnon on Fri Aug 29, 2014 3:31 pm

    George1 wrote:
    magnumcromagnon wrote:
    Viktor wrote:
    Swede55 wrote:Even Russians don't want to join the Russian army, so why would a foreigner?  If you want an adventure, go work in the Bakken oilfield or go fishing in Alaska, at least they will pay you.

    Perhaps in 90ies and early 2000 but as of lately Russian army has become a hit amont Russians because of raising pay and benefits and also investment and sucessful dealing with

    situation. We are talking about second best army in the World.

    2nd best? To whom? Some Russian Army accomplishments:

    1.) Destruction of the Ottoman Empire (revenge for the destruction of the Byzantine Empire).

    2.) Destruction of Napoleanic France.

    3.) Destruction of Nazi Germany.

    4.) Fought off the British, French, and Ottoman Empires simultaneously during the Crimean War

    ...The U.S. Navy is the best Navy in the world, the U.S. Army other hand has had better funding than the Russian equivalent but not the prestige of accomplishments the Russian Army has, and the Russian Army has better air defense assets to nullify airpower.

    Ottoman Empire was destructed by World War I. Not by Russia

    Countless wars between Russia and the Ottoman Empire, WW1 was the icing on the cake and Russia sacrificed the most in WW1.

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    Post  flamming_python on Sat Sep 06, 2014 11:48 pm

    Swede55 wrote:Even Russians don't want to join the Russian army, so why would a foreigner?  If you want an adventure, go work in the Bakken oilfield or go fishing in Alaska, at least they will pay you.

    LOL here cometh the man with all the answers What a Face
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    Re: The "I want to join the Russian Army" Thread

    Post  sepheronx on Sun Sep 07, 2014 12:55 am

    Swede55 wrote:Even Russians don't want to join the Russian army, so why would a foreigner?  If you want an adventure, go work in the Bakken oilfield or go fishing in Alaska, at least they will pay you.

    Last time I read something regarding pay, Russian armed forces in contract works out about over $1000 a month, after everything is said and done, and bonus depending which region you are.  Flaming Python would know as he served.  I imagine the higher and longer you stay, the more money you make.  Add in the fact that they pay for your food and housing, that is a bonus.  In the end though, it really isn't supposed to be a career unless you are working your way up or to help protect your country.

    here is what I found:

    http://www.osw.waw.pl/en/publikacje/analyses/2012-02-01/a-significant-pay-increase-russian-army
    On 25 January, Russian military received their first salaries under the new payment system. The changes cover about 350,000 professional officers and NCOs, as well as privates on contract service. All ranks have received substantial increases, of the order of two and a half times their current salaries. In the cases of personnel serving in harsh climates or in areas of conflict, as well as those serving in positions requiring specialist knowledge, the increase in wages was even higher – up to three times the current salary. A contract soldier currently receives approximately US$1000 a month, a junior officer (company commander) US$2000, and his counterpart serving on a nuclear submarine gets US$3000, the same as a senior officer (rank of colonel) commanding a missile regiment. The lowest salaries for senior officers commanding battalions will run to around US$2500 after the changes.

    If this is the case, then I would be jumping for joy. That is more money than I make here in Canada a month (well, at least what a junior officer makes on a submarine). It may not be a whole lot if the wives back at the military towns cannot find a job. Which in that case, military towns should be more lenient on private businesses. That said, the pay rate is not bad at all. But, of course, people dodge it to go to school (which they can bypass military service by being in school) and after that, can land them a job working for more money for some private business. School is free in Russia, or near free. So you do not have to worry about student loans to screw you like here in Canada or US. And so many in the states join the army to bypass all those troubles, plus they send you to school in US and CAD military on their dime. So a lot of not well to do families can see the benefits in that. In Russia, many are seeing these increases definitely good, especially those people who grew up in poor villages and who were not the best educated either. This job in the army is something they can do, and can get the education they need without the need of the entrance exam.
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    Re: The "I want to join the Russian Army" Thread

    Post  GarryB on Mon Sep 08, 2014 12:44 pm

    Even Russians don't want to join the Russian army, so why would a foreigner? If you want an adventure, go work in the Bakken oilfield or go fishing in Alaska, at least they will pay you.

    If you want adventure join the US Army... they need more bodies to send to places all round the world that mean nothing to the defence of the US, but keep that 1% of rich people in the US very rich...


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    Re: The "I want to join the Russian Army" Thread

    Post  Mike E on Mon Sep 08, 2014 7:47 pm

    GarryB wrote:
    Even Russians don't want to join the Russian army, so why would a foreigner?  If you want an adventure, go work in the Bakken oilfield or go fishing in Alaska, at least they will pay you.

    If you want adventure join the US Army... they need more bodies to send to places all round the world that mean nothing to the defence of the US, but keep that 1% of rich people in the US very rich...

    Yeah, a brother of mine was an AF photographer, and luckily that is the easiest "job" in the US forces!

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    Post  Asf on Mon Sep 08, 2014 11:00 pm

    GarryB wrote:
    Even Russians don't want to join the Russian army, so why would a foreigner?  If you want an adventure, go work in the Bakken oilfield or go fishing in Alaska, at least they will pay you.

    If you want adventure join the US Army... they need more bodies to send to places all round the world that mean nothing to the defence of the US, but keep that 1% of rich people in the US very rich...
    That's not bad employment, there is porn for US soldiers even in occupied cities! I saw it in 'Gunnery Palace'. What else might you need? And if things got uglу there is always an air support to make your job for you by bombing another weddiing ceremony, as it always hard to find personel willing to fight muslim savages fair.
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    Post  Mike E on Mon Sep 08, 2014 11:21 pm

    Asf wrote:
    GarryB wrote:
    Even Russians don't want to join the Russian army, so why would a foreigner?  If you want an adventure, go work in the Bakken oilfield or go fishing in Alaska, at least they will pay you.

    If you want adventure join the US Army... they need more bodies to send to places all round the world that mean nothing to the defence of the US, but keep that 1% of rich people in the US very rich...
    That's not bad employment, there is porn for US soldiers even in occupied cities! I saw it in 'Gunnery Palace'. What else might you need? And if things got uglу there is always an air support to make your job for you by bombing another weddiing ceremony, as it always hard to find personel willing to fight muslim savages fair.
    lol!

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    Post  Karkota on Fri Sep 19, 2014 3:47 am

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    Re: The "I want to join the Russian Army" Thread

    Post  Mike E on Fri Sep 19, 2014 5:02 am

    Karkota wrote:All joking aside though, I'm assuming the foreigners joining is only for the Russian army? MVD, Navy, Air Force would all be excluded?
    I believe that has been answered before, go look through other threads and farther back in this one.

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    Post  Karkota on Fri Sep 19, 2014 6:51 am

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    Re: The "I want to join the Russian Army" Thread

    Post  Mike E on Fri Sep 19, 2014 7:12 am

    Not sure... That being said, I'm almost 100% sure that people here on RMF said that foreigners can join almost any section of the Russian armed forces.
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    Post  flamming_python on Wed Sep 24, 2014 4:06 pm

    Mike E wrote:Not sure... That being said, I'm almost 100% sure that people here on RMF said that foreigners can join almost any section of the Russian armed forces.

    To be honest, none of us know for sure right now, it's all conjecture until we actually hear of some foreigners joining the Russian army, and I mean foreign foreigners, not Armenians, Tajiks, etc...

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    Post  j.mac on Wed Sep 24, 2014 11:16 pm

    flamming_python wrote:
    Mike E wrote:Not sure... That being said, I'm almost 100% sure that people here on RMF said that foreigners can join almost any section of the Russian armed forces.

    To be honest, none of us know for sure right now, it's all conjecture until we actually hear of some foreigners joining the Russian army, and I mean foreign foreigners, not Armenians, Tajiks, etc...

    Wasn't there a German and a Latvian who joined?
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    Post  GarryB on Thu Sep 25, 2014 11:32 am

    Sorry that sounds like the start of a bad joke...

    There was a German and a Latvian who joined the Russian Army...


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    Post  Werewolf on Thu Sep 25, 2014 11:42 am

    Especially latvian...

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