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    Probability of Russian Navy missiles to hit or destroy an AEGIS equipped target?

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    Probability of the Oynx, Kalibr, Brahmos and similar missiles hitting a modern, advanced "western" ship.

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    Mike E
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    Probability of Russian Navy missiles to hit or destroy an AEGIS equipped target?

    Post  Mike E on Thu Jun 19, 2014 10:42 pm

    I noticed there was no major discussion/poll like this out there, so here we go! The RIM-116 Rolling Airframe Missile definitely seems like a threat to Russian missiles, so with this system included, what do you think the possibility of a successful hit is? I would like to note that this includes all current/near-future ships, missiles, CIWS etc. Keep in mind the RAM is only on a few US ships, but on almost every German warship.

    I know Navy officials have stated that the new Kalibr (Klub) equipped with the "supersonic warhead" is their biggest concern in the missile department, but unfortunately I can not find that article.

    Also, it would be cool be if this topic could also be on developments of the naval Pantsir system, and CIWS in general.

    Thanks, in advance.

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    Post  Morpheus Eberhardt on Thu Jun 19, 2014 11:13 pm

    This is a misleading topic.

    The topic and participation in its discussions may create the illusion in some readers that there is a real possibility that, let's say, Aegis can shoot down an Oniks.

    Technically, the probability of Aegis shooting down an Oniks is, literally, less that shooting the Oniks down by someone throwing a piece of rock at the missile.

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    Post  Mike E on Thu Jun 19, 2014 11:21 pm

    Doesn't mean it absolutely can't. The Ticonderogas only have two Phalanx systems, as do some Burkes, which means they stand almost no chance against the Oniks.

    Don't forget this topic is meant to include all AEGIS ships and ships with software like AEGIS. Including the Type 45 etc.

    That being said, the RAM seems like a "decent" system.
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    Post  Hannibal Barca on Thu Jun 19, 2014 11:36 pm

    Morpheus Eberhardt wrote:This is a misleading topic.

    The topic and participation in its discussions may create the illusion in some readers that there is a real possibility that, let's say, Aegis can shoot down an Oniks.

    Technically, the probability of Aegis shooting down an Oniks is, literally, less that shooting the Oniks down by someone throwing a piece of rock at the missile.


    Precisely ! But still I am the one voted 60-80% because there is a substantial chance of malfunction or misfire. Now if we talk about 4-5 simultaneous launches....
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    Post  Mike E on Thu Jun 19, 2014 11:37 pm

    Then they would stand no chance, almost!
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    Post  GarryB on Fri Jun 20, 2014 10:55 am

    RAM is a nice looking missile... the Russians will have a similar missile in service in a few years time based on the 9M100 AAM/Morfei SAM.

    The question really is... is RAM accurate enough to get the sort of hit that will bring down an Onyx missile.

    Patriot showed in the Gulf War that hitting the target alone is simply not enough... a very high speed ballistic target with titanium armour might be too difficult for the Sea RAM to deal with.


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    Re: Probability of Russian Navy missiles to hit or destroy an AEGIS equipped target?

    Post  magnumcromagnon on Fri Jun 20, 2014 12:07 pm

    GarryB wrote:RAM is a nice looking missile... the Russians will have a similar missile in service in a few years time based on the 9M100 AAM/Morfei SAM.

    The question really is... is RAM accurate enough to get the sort of hit that will bring down an Onyx missile.

    Patriot showed in the Gulf War that hitting the target alone is simply not enough... a very high speed ballistic target with titanium armour might be too difficult for the Sea RAM to deal with.

    And Onyx's kinetic energy alone could probably sink most smaller ships.

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