Werewolf wrote: KoTeMoRe wrote: Arctic_Fox wrote:
KoTeMoRe wrote:Hahaah ZID does Black PR too. Ahahahahahah.
Wonderful rifle, wonderful video.
10/10 Arctic Fox!
Pre-Prod AN94 in bonus...Damn.
Thank you Kotemore,
you know, AEK looks a lot less complex than i tought it was, i really hope to see VDV using A545/A762 in a near future.
"Old Aek" was a bit more Agro, but this is 2009 variant? A545 is even better in that respect. Also don't forget, AEK was never rejected due to complexity (FFS it lost to the AN "Black Magic" 94) it was rejected due to the fact the AN94 is Black Magic in two round burst. Also look at the minimal muzzle rise. It's a fantastic rifle. I love it to death, because it's everything the AK is not. Balanced, more ergonomic, very simple, very smooth.
It just does not have the lobby, the name nor the reputation to shine with.
What is the difference between AEK's (A545)2009 and pre 2009 (AEK-971)?
Guide for BARS system. Controls (previously it was a shortened AK style lever). Muzzle brake/device. Internals were a bit more "Soviet" the counter-balancing guiderod was thicker and non-integrated like the new one. Furniture was simple bakelite. Proprietary Folding mechanism. Roughly around 2006 there was a product improvement. Detachable/Drop in fire controls and trigger, integrated BARS, Black "polymer furniture. N-rail standard, guide changed, but still worked on a AK stamped receiver. And then A545, roughly the same rifle (although there was a slight redesign of the housing of bolt action) but with H&K legacy furniture, dioptre sight, Hinged Polymer lower receiver for the firecontrols and trigger. Rails (although they're not integral, but bolted on like the FNC). New Muzzle Brake modification. New stampings for the upper and monolithing upper on the first A545 variant.
Arctic_Fox wrote:i wonder why we don't see more AEK's and AN's in service with spetsnaz units, they even use some western rifles like HK416/417, but you rarely see some video or pictures of one of these two russian wonders being used.
Hum...Availability. Even if you want them, the product just isn't there. The initial batch of rifles is in very bad shape by now (we're talking 1996/1999 rifles seen in the infamous dump fire video in Chechnya), and then no one wanted to buy them. Rumour is that about 200 were bought for FSB in 2007 and some were bought by some MVD outlets but no foreign sales.
As for the AN...people just didn't liked the gun once in service, the manufacturing wasn't brilliant initially and the system has got to move on another level. But again with the AK system being dumb-solid pretty much clears the floor from a soldier perspective. And then you have Izhmash (lobby), which produces also the AN.
But the reason is this, the AK74, despite many of its shortcomings is one hell of a rifle. And as now you can adapt it through external modifications to shoot at 80% of the AEK or 70% of the AN it still is plenty enough for the its purpose. Which is shooting assholes in the face.
Actually this is an intermediate rifle...(02 151) Rifle N° 151 Year 2002.
This is what the early model receiver looked like
Here (98 114) Rifle 114 Year 1998.
And finally a 2009 variant prepared for Ratnik entry.