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    Re: Verba MANPAD

    Post  max steel on Sun Jun 21, 2015 8:57 pm

    Book are you from US only ? I can't get your english properly . ( no offense )

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    Re: Verba MANPAD

    Post  Book. on Sun Jun 21, 2015 9:02 pm

    Novosibirsk but company send me do job

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    Post  GunshipDemocracy on Sun Jun 21, 2015 9:09 pm

    Book. wrote:Novosibirsk but company send me do job

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    Re: Verba MANPAD

    Post  GunshipDemocracy on Sun Jun 21, 2015 9:10 pm

    Verba for Gibka? Will Verba replace Iglas in Gibka naval mounts? any news?

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    Re: Verba MANPAD

    Post  Werewolf on Mon Jun 22, 2015 2:01 am

    max steel wrote:Book are you from US only ? I can't get your english properly . ( no offense )

    Book is a prototype AI that process highly intelligent questions and data to modulate the processed information into output which is limited by 40 characters, which is problem off not always understanding him, but well enough to compete against Yoda.

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    Re: Verba MANPAD

    Post  GarryB on Tue Jun 23, 2015 1:21 am

    The US had communications systems in the 1960s but nothing like the IADS the Soviets have had over the same period... the main difference is that Barnaul-m now integrates MANPADS into the system, which is primarily interested in stopping cruise missiles and other strategic threats.

    MANPADS of previous designs were unable to hit cruise missiles so there was no point in integrating them fully into the IADS... now they have.

    And Stinger has a range closer to 5km... 8km range is BS.... like the 600m "effective" range of M16... since proven more like 200m... in terms of lethality.


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    Re: Verba MANPAD

    Post  Cyberspec on Tue Jun 23, 2015 1:58 am

    GarryB wrote:The US had communications systems in the 1960s but nothing like the IADS the Soviets have had over the same period... the main difference is that Barnaul-m now integrates MANPADS into the system, which is primarily interested in stopping cruise missiles and other strategic threats.

    MANPADS of previous designs were unable to hit cruise missiles so there was no point in integrating them fully into the IADS... now they have.

    And Stinger has a range closer to 5km... 8km range is BS.... like the 600m "effective" range of M16... since proven more like 200m... in terms of lethality.

    Well said....The Igla-S is more than a match for any contemporary Stinger IMO

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    max steel wrote:Book are you from US only ? I can't get your english properly . ( no offense )

    Book is a prototype AI that process highly intelligent questions and data to modulate the processed information into output which is limited by 40 characters, which is problem off not always understanding him, but well enough to compete against Yoda.

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    Re: Verba MANPAD

    Post  Werewolf on Tue Jun 23, 2015 2:21 am

    10km range for Stinger-C or Igla-S is when it is flying towards incoming fixed wing aircraft, without maneuvering which gives it better range then the usual and effective range of roughly 6km chasing its target, but 10km claim sells more weapons of course and sounds more impressive.

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    Re: Verba MANPAD

    Post  Book. on Mon Jul 06, 2015 2:17 pm

    KBM unveils decoy-resistant Verba MANPADS
    Miroslav Gyürösi, Moscow and Robin Hughes, London - IHS Jane's Missiles & Rockets
    05 July 2015


    Key Points

    • New multispectral seeker enables clearer, faster discrimination between targets and decoys
      Enhancements extend the missile's engagement envelope by a factor of 2.5

      Russia's Konstruktorskoye Byuro Mashinostroyeniya (KBM) unveiled its next-generation 9K333 Verba (Willow) man-portable air defence system (MANPADS) at the Army-2015 International Military-Technical Forum in Kubinka.


    KBM designer General Valeriy Mikhaylovics Kashin said the Verba system significantly improves upon the accuracy and performance of the earlier 9K338 Igla-S (SA-24/Grouse) MANPADS, primarily through the integration of a new multispectral optical seeker, which uses three sensors - ultraviolet, near-infrared, and mid-infrared - as opposed to the dual-waveband infrared used in the Igla-S system. Kashin said the multispectral sensor enables faster discrimination between appropriate targets and decoys, and decreases the chance of disruption from infrared countermeasures, including high-power flares and lasers.

    The Verba's kinematic kill range remains practically the same as the Igla-S (slant range up to 6,000 m (19,680 ft) and altitudes of up to 3,500 m) but KBM said the engagement envelope has been extended by a factor of 2.5, and protection from high-power flares improved by a factor of 10. The company says that these improvements optimise the use of the missile's energy consumption with lower quantities of missiles now required to defeat an aerial target and deliver a general increase in performance by a factor of 1.5 to 2.

    A typical 9K333 Verba MANPADS system comprises a 9M336 missile with the new multispectral optical seeker, developed by LOMO of St Petersburg, and a new warhead developed by the RFNC- VNIIEF facility in Sarov; a 9P521 launcher; a Maugli-2M (1PN97M) infrared imaging sight (also developed by LOMO); and 1L229V ground-based IFF interrogator. The systems are integrated and produced by the Degtyarev Plant in Korov.

    Additional components include a 9S935 gunner's target cueing set; a 9C931 mission planning module; a1L122 compact radar; a 9C931 mission planning module; a 9V861 mobile control station; a 9C932-1 reconnaissance and control module; a 9C933 portable fire control module (brigade level), a 9C933-1 divisional level system integration set; and a 9C935 automated anti-aircraft set.

    The training aids for the 9K333 Verba user include a 9F877 computerised classroom, a 9F859 Konus complex simulator, a 9F874 unified classroom simulator, and 9F663M and 9F635M1 tactical field training sets. Basic maintenance systems include the 9V682 test equipment set and the 9V681 mobile test station.

    KBM qualified the 9K333 Verba system with the 9M336 missile in 2012 following which the company received approval for low rate initial production of the complete system. In 2014 KBM began initial deliveries of Verba to the Russian Armed Forces' Southern Military District and Eastern Military District commands, with the system officially accepted into service with the Russian Armed Forces in 2015.

    Kashin said that KBM has requested export clearance for the Verba, and that this approval is expected to be authorised in the near term.

    http://www.janes.com/article/52755/kbm-unveils-decoy-resistant-verba-manpads



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    Re: Verba MANPAD

    Post  George1 on Thu Aug 27, 2015 1:53 am

    Some Verba MANPAD photos from MAKS-2015

    http://bmpd.livejournal.com/1448000.html


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    Re: Verba MANPAD

    Post  GarryB on Thu Aug 27, 2015 10:26 am

    Verba vs Stinger


    Russia recently announced that some troops had begun receiving the new Verba shoulder fired anti-aircraft missiles. This missile had been mentioned for several years, as a replacement for the Igla-S models. Also known as the SA-24, this one is a post-Cold War upgrade of a design that was introduced the same time as the American Stinger (early 1980s).

    Igla-S entered service in 2004, weighs 19 kg (42 pounds) and fires an 11.7 kg (26 pound) missile for up to 6,000 meters.No exact specifications on the Verba have been released yet but they are probably somewhere between Igla-S and the Stinger.

    Verba is said to have about 20 percent greater range, speed and altitude as well as a 20 percent heavier warhead.

    The heat sensor is more effective as is the ability to defeat countermeasures.In contrast the 14.3 kg American Stinger fires its 10.1 kg missile out to 8,000 meters but both systems have similar resistance to countermeasures and a warhead of about the same size (2-3 kg/4.4-6.6 pounds).

    The Igla-S in the hands of terrorists could bring down helicopters and airliners taking off but was designed for battlefield use against helicopters and other low flying aircraft.

    Along with Verba comes a new control system for short range anti-aircraft systems.

    The Russian press release describes the new command and control system as unrivaled.

    That said, the U.S. has had such systems since the 1960s but the Russians don’t make any comparisons.

    Sorry, I just noticed this crap... the first US MANPAD was called Redeye and was total rubbish. The early Soviet copy of that system was SA-7 which had some improvements but was a tail chaser with a small warhead so damaged tailpipes more often than brought down aircraft... just like the Redeye.

    The Stinger was more a surprise than a particularly capable weapon and in the Soviet Union the SA-14 and SA-16 and SA-18 were developed in the 1980s. The Soviets captured several stingers in afghanistan and elsewhere and knew exactly its performance and did not bother copying an inferior item.

    Igla is rather better than stinger and igla-S was even better still with the main upgrade being a proximity fuse to allow small targets to be engaged.

    The main advance of the Verba is that not only small targets can be engaged, but low IR targets can be engaged like small light UAVs.

    Stinger on the other hand is not as good as Igla, let alone Verba. Mistral is better than Stinger... after the French blew up the Rainbow Warrior in NZs largest port we still bought Mistral MANPADS over Stingers.


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    Re: Verba MANPAD

    Post  Militarov on Thu Sep 03, 2015 2:01 am

    Since i am still not allowed to post links ill put full name of video that shows Verba launch. "Стрельбы новейшего российского ПЗРК «Верба»", seek for it on youtube and enjoy Smile

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    Re: Verba MANPAD

    Post  magnumcromagnon on Thu Sep 03, 2015 2:29 am

    Like this?




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    Re: Verba MANPAD

    Post  Militarov on Thu Sep 03, 2015 2:30 am

    magnumcromagnon wrote:Like this?




    Yep, thats the one Smile

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    Re: Verba MANPAD

    Post  magnumcromagnon on Wed Nov 04, 2015 2:21 am

    Russian Defense Ministry: more than 50 sets of MANPADS "Verba" entered service ZVO:

    A key feature of MANPADS" Willow "is the ability to hit low-radiation targets such as cruise missiles and unmanned aerial vehicles, under the impact of false thermal noise at a height of 10 to 4500 meters and at a distance of 500 to 6500 meters, "- he said.

    Russian Defense Ministry: more than 50 sets of MANPADS "Verba" entered service ZVO

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    Post  George1 on Fri Nov 27, 2015 11:39 pm

    The Russian army received two brigade and division set a new MANPADS "Verba"

    The first half of the ordered military weapons - two sets of brigade for the Army and two divisions for Airborne - were handed over in 2014, explained in the Engineering Design Bureau

    MOSCOW, November 27. / TASS /. Engineering Design Bureau (KBM, is a holding company "High-precision systems") in late November, has transferred to the army two brigade and two battalions of the new set of man-portable air defense systems (MANPADS) "Willow", to perform the contract of 2013. On this November 27 reported TASS in the press service of the enterprise.

    "MSC completed two contracts with the Ministry of Defence, concluded in 2013: the supply of brigade and division sets the newest portable air defense systems" Verba ", - said the press service.

    The company explained that the first half of the ordered military weapons - two sets of brigade for the Army and two divisions for Airborne - were handed over in 2014. "The same amount of equipment delivered and in late November 2015. Contracts are made on time" - added to the MSC.

    MANPADS "Verba", according to the developers, is superior to all existing foreign models. Anti-aircraft missiles, part of the complex, has received trehspektralnuyu homing with high sensitivity and low-radiation can hit the target. The complex is able to destroy targets at altitudes ranging from 10 to 4500 meters and at a distance of 500 to 6500 meters.


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    Re: Verba MANPAD

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    Re: Verba MANPAD

    Post  sweartome123 on Fri Dec 04, 2015 8:07 pm

    Sorry if this has previously been discussed.

    What major advantages does this new system have over earlier ones of domestic or foreign design?

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    Post  Militarov on Fri Dec 04, 2015 8:30 pm

    sweartome123 wrote:Sorry if this has previously been discussed.

    What major advantages does this new system have over earlier ones of domestic or foreign design?

    Three spectrum sensor ultraviolet, near-infrared, and mid-infrared and algorithm matching "picks" from all 3 to track the target, this makes it far less vulnerable to various decoys and countermeasures. Unlike previous systems it has IFF interrogator. And even more important it has infra red imaging sight Maugli 2M - http://lomo-tech.ru/en/?a=2&b=3&c=3. Multiple launchers form an actual complex, its not "each launcher on its own", they all can communicate with 1L122E small radar system providing them with additional image of the airspace.

    Range is increased by 500-1500m compared to older systems and altitude is increased by 500-1000m compared to the other systems in service, take note that range and maximum altitude are not the same. There are also other improvements, like digital training equipment and simulators, digital testing and diagnostic equipment....





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    Post  sweartome123 on Fri Dec 04, 2015 8:41 pm

    Awesome. Thank you.

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    Post  George1 on Tue Mar 22, 2016 3:28 pm

    Rosoboronexport represent MANPADS “Verba”



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    Re: Verba MANPAD

    Post  sheytanelkebir on Tue Mar 29, 2016 12:11 am

    guys i'm trying to understand whether this is a verba or a igla-s please help!


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    Re: Verba MANPAD

    Post  KoTeMoRe on Tue Mar 29, 2016 12:31 am

    Looks like Igla S, normally VERBA has the two "taps"/"lids" on the side (left side), not one on the side, on on top.

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    Post  Militarov on Tue Mar 29, 2016 12:32 am

    sheytanelkebir wrote:guys i'm trying to understand whether this is a verba or a igla-s please help!


    Its Igla-S


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    Post  Militarov on Tue Mar 29, 2016 12:34 am

    KoTeMoRe wrote:Looks like Igla S, normally VERBA has the two "taps"/"lids" on the side (left side), not one on the side, on on top.

    Iraqis just got certain amount of 1PN97M thermal imagers which is confusing people as they are seen on Verba.

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