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    Re: The Situation in the Ukraine. #4

    Post  flamming_python on Tue May 06, 2014 11:36 am

    Morpheus Eberhardt wrote:
    flamming_python wrote:
    Morpheus Eberhardt wrote:
    Regular wrote:I'm not saying Ukrainian army is uber alles. Their tactics and punitive operation are flawed. 
    The point is rebels in Sloviansk are in big disadvantage. We can talk about how Russia would wipe out them in a seconds, but reality is people in Slovyansk are standing alone. They don't have enough bodies or even heavy equipment like ATGMs which is a MUST in countering armour. Every living soul lost is a severe blow to them. If it wasn't for their BMDs they captured even those 5 guys would be gobe. It looks like Babay didn't make it. May he RIP.

    Can someone tell me who Babay is.

    This guy  Smile 


    Is regular's story about him having been killed correct?

    Just kidding, it's not actually Hamzat Gairbekov, former head of the Chechen 'Vostok' battalion that was killed according to Regular

    But this bearded fighter in Slavyansk that the Ukrainians and US State Department claimed as the same person. You've probably seen him in some of the photos, he's been quite ubiquitous.

    However I haven't seen any sources so far saying he died. Hopefully not.

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    Re: The Situation in the Ukraine. #4

    Post  Morpheus Eberhardt on Tue May 06, 2014 11:50 am

    flamming_python wrote:
    Morpheus Eberhardt wrote:
    flamming_python wrote:
    Morpheus Eberhardt wrote:
    Regular wrote:I'm not saying Ukrainian army is uber alles. Their tactics and punitive operation are flawed. 
    The point is rebels in Sloviansk are in big disadvantage. We can talk about how Russia would wipe out them in a seconds, but reality is people in Slovyansk are standing alone. They don't have enough bodies or even heavy equipment like ATGMs which is a MUST in countering armour. Every living soul lost is a severe blow to them. If it wasn't for their BMDs they captured even those 5 guys would be gobe. It looks like Babay didn't make it. May he RIP.

    Can someone tell me who Babay is.

    This guy  Smile 


    Is regular's story about him having been killed correct?

    Just kidding, it's not actually Hamzat Gairbekov, former head of the Chechen 'Vostok' battalion that was killed according to Regular

    But this bearded fighter in Slavyansk that the Ukrainians and US State Department claimed as the same person. You've probably seen him in some of the photos, he's been quite ubiquitous.

    However I haven't seen any sources so far saying he died. Hopefully not.

    Thanks for the explanation, FP.

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    Re: The Situation in the Ukraine. #4

    Post  Morpheus Eberhardt on Tue May 06, 2014 12:58 pm

    It seems that the count for the Nazi terrorists losses includes at least the following for now.

    4 X Mi-24
    1 X Mi-8

    I should mention that shooting down a Mi-24, even a Ukrainian-owned one, is extremely difficult.

    Also none of these are single-seat helicopters; a Mi-24 has 2 crew members and can carry an infantry section, and a Mi-8 has 2 crew members and can carry an infantry platoon; so for all of the 5 aircraft to be carrying only a single pilot at the time they were "destroyed" is a bit ...

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    Re: The Situation in the Ukraine. #4

    Post  arpakola on Tue May 06, 2014 1:26 pm



    Downed Mi-24 helicopter

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    Re: The Situation in the Ukraine. #4

    Post  arpakola on Tue May 06, 2014 1:32 pm



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    and here Oleh Liashko clown


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    Re: The Situation in the Ukraine. #4

    Post  flamming_python on Tue May 06, 2014 1:32 pm

    Turns out that noise about the Israeli 'Aliya' battallion made up of ex-Soviet vets, wasn't so BS after all.

    Now some members are claiming that they are willing to come as peacekeepers:
    http://lifenews.ru/news/132682

    Up to 20 immediately, and up to 200 in the medium-term. The battalion itself was disbanded in 2006, but it exists now as a social organization, something like a veterans' club I guess. So just like the same organizations in Russia are organizing into volunteer battalions, so too are these guys.

    Interesting that they're saying both that they are ready to come as peacekeepers, and that they're ready to come in this capacity if they are invited by the DPR Smile
    So it's a bit confusing as to whether they are ready to take up arms to defend the people or not. I suspect they are, given that they recognize the DPR's authority it seems and it's the Kiev forces that are currently attacking; the Aliya battallion combatants will be beholden to secure the population against any attack.

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    Re: The Situation in the Ukraine. #4

    Post  TheArmenian on Tue May 06, 2014 2:07 pm

    Morpheus Eberhardt wrote:It seems that the count for the Nazi terrorists losses includes at least the following for now.

    4 X Mi-24
    1 X Mi-8

    I should mention that shooting down a Mi-24, even a Ukrainian-owned one, is extremely difficult.

    Also none of these are single-seat helicopters; a Mi-24 has 2 crew members and can carry an infantry section, and a Mi-8 has 2 crew members and can carry an infantry platoon; so for all of the 5 aircraft to be carrying only a single pilot at the time they were "destroyed" is a bit ...

    Correct numbers are;

    3 x Mi-24
    2 x Mi-8

    Details here: http://bmpd.livejournal.com/839828.html

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    Re: The Situation in the Ukraine. #4

    Post  arpakola on Tue May 06, 2014 2:14 pm


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    Re: The Situation in the Ukraine. #4

    Post  Morpheus Eberhardt on Tue May 06, 2014 2:44 pm

    arpakola wrote:

    So update number 1:

    1 X Mi-24P
    2 X Mi-24, subtype unknown to me
    1 X Mi-8MT
    1 X Mi-8, subtype unknown to me


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    Re: The Situation in the Ukraine. #4

    Post  arpakola on Tue May 06, 2014 3:10 pm


    Odessa, 3 may, proUkranian mob is storming TradeUnions Building, before big fire in it.
    So mob was inside the building already BEFORE the fire.

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    In Lugansk region burned radar

    Post  arpakola on Tue May 06, 2014 4:12 pm

    http://korrespondent.net/ukraine/politics/3359113-v-luhanskoi-oblasty-sozhhly-radyolokatsyonnuui-stantsyui-eto-dyversyia-schytaet-prokuratura

    In Lugansk region burned radar . This diversion, prosecutors said
    Of Korrespondent.net , Today , 16:08
    A group of 20 persons , armed with automatic weapons , May 6 at 4 am seized and destroyed radar .

    Armed attack and destroy a radar station in the Luhansk region qualified as a diversion to the press service of the General Prosecutor's Office on Tuesday, May 6.

    " Sixth of May 2014 4:00 am, a group of 20 trained persons armed with automatic small arms , attacked the Radio- division of one of the units in the Luhansk region . Having a numerical advantage, saboteurs defeated Ukrainian soldiers guarding the object seized several firearms and destroyed by arson radar . After committing sabotage the attackers fled the scene , "- said in a statement
    В Луганской области сожгли радиолокационную станцию. Это диверсия, считает прокуратура. Группа из 20 лиц, вооруженных автоматическим стрелковым оружием, 6 мая в 4 утра захватила и уничтожила радиолокационную станцию.
    Вооруженное нападение и уничтожение радиолокационной станции в Луганской области квалифицировано как диверсия, сообщили в пресс-служба Генеральной прокуратуры во вторник, 6 мая.

    "Шестого мая 2014 года в 4 часа утра группа из 20 подготовленных лиц, вооруженных автоматическим стрелковым оружием, совершила нападение на радиотехническое подразделение одной из воинских частей в Луганской области. Имея численное преимущество, диверсанты одолели украинских военнослужащих, охранявших объект, завладели несколькими единицами стрелкового оружия, а также путем поджога уничтожили радиолокационную станцию. После совершения диверсионного акта нападавшие скрылись с места происшествия", - говорится в сообщении.

    В Генпрокуратуре сообщили, что в Единый реестр досудебных расследований внесены сведения о совершении уголовного преступления, предусмотренного ст. 113 Уголовного кодекса Украины, то есть диверсия, которая наказывается лишением свободы на срок от десяти до пятнадцати лет.

    Одновременно будет дана правовая оценка действиям военнослужащих по отражению нападения на охраняемый военный объект.

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    Kiev Is Blowing Its Chance to Take Back East Ukraine

    Post  arpakola on Tue May 06, 2014 4:29 pm

    http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2014/05/06/kiev-is-losing-the-war-for-hearts-and-minds-and-territory-in-eastern-ukraine.html

    Kiev Is Blowing Its Chance to Take Back East Ukraine

    SLOVYANSK, Ukraine — The doctor at the psychiatric hospital didn’t miss a beat. As we left the 400-patient facility on the outskirts of the separatist-controlled town of Slovyansk he wished a colleague and me well, adding, “Be careful, there are a lot of crazy people out there.”
    That warning was borne out quickly with paranoid locals outside the gates of the hospital insisting the British army had taken to the field and that British soldiers are now helping the Ukrainian military in its fight against pro-Russian militants.
    Two hundred meters down the road a tractor-trailer was still smoldering after sending plumes of acrid black smoke swirling across a junction in the small village of Semenovka. The vehicle had been hit in the crossfire of a two-hour battle between Ukrainian anti-terrorist units and pro-Russian separatists and the body of the young driver, covered by a yellow tarpaulin, was still lying in front of a roadside café.
    “We don’t know who he is,” said 24-year-old secretary Nadin, who spoke with us on condition that we not publish her last name. “We can’t tell his family that he is dead,” she lamented.
    As far as Nadin and her family are concerned, the crazy people had paid them a visit—and the crazies, in their view, are not the separatists. Theirs is a middle-class family—her father runs an advertising agency—and they, too, were caught in the midst of the firefight as bullets riddled their house, shattering windows and tearing up the siding.
    Fortunately there was only one casualty at Nadin’s home: the pet parrot was pretty much obliterated by an AK47 round.
    “I think after this shooting a lot of people will be afraid of our government and I think they will ask for help from Russia,” said Nadin. Her 70-year-old grandmother was in shock and kept repeating obsessively: “We had all this shooting without any warning. They should have warned us. They didn’t say anything to us.”
    Six people died in the firefight—one a Ukrainian soldier—and there were seven critically wounded, according to the psychiatrists, who were pressed into service as triage doctors. Government officials say yesterday’s skirmish at Semenovka on the north side of Slovyansk was a success: Units loyal to the government in Kiev had driven away some armed separatists who had taken up positions in the gardens of the houses at the junction.
    But Nadin’s grandmother makes a valid counter-insurgency point when she asks over a cup of coffee why the Ukrainian forces shot up the place and then withdrew. “Why didn’t they stay?” she asks.
    And that in a nutshell is what is questionable about the whole thrust of Kiev’s “anti-terrorist operation” in eastern Ukraine, which was resumed on Friday, two days after acting President Oleksandr Turchynov announced that the Ukrainian security forces had lost control of this industrial region with a population of more than 6 million abutting the Russian border.
    The Ukrainian counter-insurgency operation seems to rely on hit-and-run tactics that aren’t denying much territory to the separatists but are inflaming local opinion and losing the battle for hearts and minds. The operation isn’t stabilizing the region or helping to stem the rising lawlessness—something most people across the east are desperate to see brought to an end. In a sign of the lack of confidence in Kiev’s ability to restore law and order, two of the country’s largest banks, Privatbank and Raiffeisen Bank Aval, have temporarily closed their branches in Ukraine’s eastern Donetsk and Luhansk regions, saying that they can’t guarantee staff safety.
    The relaunched anti-terrorist operation is focused on Slovyansk, which has become the poster town for the pro-Russian insurgency, and its larger neighbor Kramatorsk. Slovyansk serves as the main base for the militancy across the region. The strategy of the Ukrainian forces has been to surround and isolate the separatists, reduce the space in which they can operate, and drive them to retreat to the government buildings they seized in both towns.
    The Kiev government claims it is making progress in this military struggle, although officials admit their forces still have to advance on the center of Slovyansk.
    Over the weekend, Kiev forces captured a TV tower on a hill overlooking Slovyansk and successfully defended it from a separatist attack on Monday. According to Ukraine’s interior minister, ****n Avakov, government forces have Slovyansk encircled and the noose is being tightened.
    As far as Kramatorsk is concerned, in the eyes of Kiev, at least, things are also going swimmingly. Ukrainian Security Services spokeswoman Maryna Ostapenko says the operation is advancing as planned. “Now I can say that Kramatorsk is under the control of the anti-terrorist forces,” she told reporters in Kiev. For these territorial gains over four days the costs have been high: Kiev forces have lost three military helicopters, a half-dozen soldiers have been killed and more than 100 wounded, according to the government’s tally.
    But the picture painted by Kiev officials doesn’t match the reality on the ground—and it is unclear whether officials are delusional or just think this is the way to win the information war.
    Some analysts in Kiev, like Dmitry Tymchuk of the Center for Military and Political Research, are not convinced by the government’s version. “If they have blocked Slovyansk, I question how tight it is blocked and how effective this area is controlled now,” he told reporters. “With other areas—for example, Kramatorsk in particular—I have huge questions.”
    Tymchuk is right to be skeptical, and The Daily Beast, which toured (gingerly) around Slovyansk, can answer some of his questions. The blockade is not tight. Separatist checkpoints around the town were cleared one day by Kiev forces and returned the next.
    On the road to Kramatorsk traffic is being filtered effectively by Ukrainian airborne troops and separatist checkpoints directly south have had to relocate a few hundred meters nearer the besieged town. Government forces to the north along the road to Izium are effectively controlling traffic movement. But all other directions are wide open and you have to travel more than 20 kilometers southeast before you run across an army checkpoint.
    On many side roads and dirt tracks through the woods surrounding the town of 130,000 there is no military presence. Separatist fighters are still finding it relatively easy moving in and out of Slovyansk: A new separatist commander for pro-Russian militants in the neighboring town of Kostiantynivka was dispatched Monday from Slovyansk and traveled with ease to take up his command.
    And the facts on the ground in Kramatorsk also bear no resemblance to what is being claimed in Kiev by government officials.
    During the weekend the country’s interior ministry announced Kiev forces had recaptured Kramatorsk’s central police station. But Monday, when The Daily Beast visited, the desk sergeant laughed and said there are now two police chiefs—the official acting chief, or the separatist Donetsk Republic’s chief. On the streets of the city there was no sign of any Ukrainian military personnel. And surprisingly, at 4 a.m. on Monday Ukrainian Special Forces units withdrew all their forces from Kramatorsk’s small civilian airport, a forward base they had struggled to defend from sporadic separatist attacks.
    Separatists interpret the airport withdrawal as a victory. Some military analysts suspect the Special Forces units were shifted to Slovyansk because Kiev doesn’t have enough troops to rely on and is spread thin.
    The lack of progress in the towns north of Donetsk raises questions about the ability of Ukrainian security forces to confront the broader uprising that Kiev says is fomented and directed by Moscow—an accusation the Kremlin denies.
    To the northeast in the town of Luhansk, Kiev is facing further challenges. It managed to evict armed separatists from one government building—they were allowed to leave with their weapons—but the separatist leader in the town, Valeriy Bolotov, has declared a state of emergency and announced the formation of a “South-East Army.” He has declared a curfew, a ban on political parties, and has ordered local law enforcement officials to take an oath of allegiance to the people of Luhansk.
    In a further ominous move that Kiev just doesn’t have the forces to counter, armed separatists have started to block border checkpoints, prompting some military analysts to speculate that they have been instructed to do so by Moscow.
    As the local psychiatrists attest, the situation grows crazier by the day.

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    Re: The Situation in the Ukraine. #4

    Post  Airbornewolf on Tue May 06, 2014 5:29 pm

    http://rt.com/news/157108-osce-observers-shot-ukraine/

    well, i guess the Czech NATO member was not amused being shot at by the Ukrainian army.  attack 


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    Re: The Situation in the Ukraine. #4

    Post  arpakola on Tue May 06, 2014 5:45 pm


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    Re: The Situation in the Ukraine. #4

    Post  medo on Tue May 06, 2014 6:01 pm

    arpakola wrote:http://korrespondent.net/ukraine/politics/3359113-v-luhanskoi-oblasty-sozhhly-radyolokatsyonnuui-stantsyui-eto-dyversyia-schytaet-prokuratura

    In Lugansk region burned radar . This diversion, prosecutors said
    Of Korrespondent.net , Today , 16:08
    A group of 20 persons , armed with automatic weapons , May 6 at 4 am seized and destroyed radar .

    Armed attack and destroy a radar station in the Luhansk region qualified as a diversion to the press service of the General Prosecutor's Office on Tuesday, May 6.

    " Sixth of May 2014 4:00 am, a group of 20 trained persons armed with automatic small arms , attacked the Radio- division of one of the units in the Luhansk region . Having a numerical advantage, saboteurs defeated Ukrainian soldiers guarding the object seized several firearms and destroyed by arson radar . After committing sabotage the attackers fled the scene , "- said in a statement  
    В Луганской области сожгли радиолокационную станцию. Это диверсия, считает прокуратура. Группа из 20 лиц, вооруженных автоматическим стрелковым оружием, 6 мая в 4 утра захватила и уничтожила радиолокационную станцию.
    Вооруженное нападение и уничтожение радиолокационной станции в Луганской области квалифицировано как диверсия, сообщили в пресс-служба Генеральной прокуратуры во вторник, 6 мая.

    "Шестого мая 2014 года в 4 часа утра группа из 20 подготовленных лиц, вооруженных автоматическим стрелковым оружием, совершила нападение на радиотехническое подразделение одной из воинских частей в Луганской области. Имея численное преимущество, диверсанты одолели украинских военнослужащих, охранявших объект, завладели несколькими единицами стрелкового оружия, а также путем поджога уничтожили радиолокационную станцию. После совершения диверсионного акта нападавшие скрылись с места происшествия", - говорится в сообщении.

    В Генпрокуратуре сообщили, что в Единый реестр досудебных расследований внесены сведения о совершении уголовного преступления, предусмотренного ст. 113 Уголовного кодекса Украины, то есть диверсия, которая наказывается лишением свободы на срок от десяти до пятнадцати лет.

    Одновременно будет дана правовая оценка действиям военнослужащих по отражению нападения на охраняемый военный объект.

    No one dead, no one wounded, only radar is destroyed. I have a filling, that Ukrainian soldiers themselves destroy it, that it doesn't fall in hands of federalists. If federalists get radar, than Ukrainian air force lost much of their effectiveness as they could see their activeness far away and prepare their units for attacks. Ukrainian army have enough radars around to cover the space of this radar station. What happened to those soldiers after attack? Are they prisoners? They still stay there? Go to other army units? Did they just give weapons to have free pass? They for sure have at least the same number of guards and also radar crew and technicians, so they should be able to defend it.

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    Re: The Situation in the Ukraine. #4

    Post  arpakola on Tue May 06, 2014 6:21 pm

    http://112.ua/obshchestvo/senchenko-voennyh-kotorye-otkazalis-spasat-ekipazh-sbitogo-pod-slavyanskom-vertoleta-zhdet-sud-58511.html

    http://112.ua/obshchestvo/v-korpuse-obstrelyannogo-nad-slavyanskom-vertoleta-naschitali-bolee-desyatka-proboin-ot-vystrelov-iz-oruzhiya-raznogo-kalibra-pilot-57306.html
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    The Head of the Jewish Community of Ukraine Speaks Out Against Putin ( he has no problem with SVOBODA..!!)

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    Re: The Situation in the Ukraine. #4

    Post  arpakola on Tue May 06, 2014 6:33 pm



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    http://en.ria.ru/world/20140506/189619604/Ukraine-Lawmaker-Recommends-Death-for-National-Security-Crimes.html

    Ukraine Lawmaker Recommends Death for National Security Crimes

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    Re: The Situation in the Ukraine. #4

    Post  etaepsilonk on Tue May 06, 2014 7:28 pm

    arpakola wrote:

    T-34 is not used by Ukrainian army. That means it's supplied by GRU.

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    Re: The Situation in the Ukraine. #4

    Post  Vann7 on Tue May 06, 2014 7:44 pm

    The Head of the Jewish Community of Ukraine Speaks Out Against Putin ( he has no problem with SVOBODA..!!)


    Not surprising. Jews hate and envy Russia super power status. Also shows that vast majority of Jews are Zionist too.They hate Russia for interfering in the Israel middle east expansionism plans and its support to Syria and IRAN rights for independence and nuclear development in the last one. Now we now the side that Israel will take ,the side of the neonazis revolution. LOL IF they can support Alqaeda in Syria.. supporting neonazis in Ukraine is nothing.. They will support anyone as long it will help them create a negative world image of Russia and damage its economy.

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    Re: The Situation in the Ukraine. #4

    Post  Strizh on Tue May 06, 2014 8:03 pm

    They are attacking Mariupol again.

    It's time to send them help!!

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    Re: The Situation in the Ukraine. #4

    Post  Regular on Tue May 06, 2014 8:11 pm

    Vann7 wrote:
    The Head of the Jewish Community of Ukraine Speaks Out Against Putin ( he has no problem with SVOBODA..!!)


    Not surprising. Jews hate and envy Russia super power status. Also shows that vast majority of Jews are Zionist too.They hate Russia for interfering in the Israel middle east expansionism plans and its support to Syria and IRAN rights for independence and nuclear development in the last one. Now we now the side that Israel will take ,the side of the neonazis revolution. LOL  IF they can support Alqaeda in Syria.. supporting neonazis in Ukraine is nothing.. They will support anyone as long it will help them create a negative world image of Russia and damage its economy.
    He is on Kiev payroll what do you expect? You are wrong about Jews man. Even Israeli TV channels in Russian language changed their tune. Hell BBC tries to keep it real too. How much you want to bet that Ukraine will loose any significant support pretty soon. I can't speak about Baltics, people are spoon fed with propaganda there.  dunno or USA where public opinion means a squat


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    Re: The Situation in the Ukraine. #4

    Post  Regular on Tue May 06, 2014 8:24 pm

    Morpheus Eberhardt wrote:Is regular's story about him having been killed correct?
    Well it was fake reports on one of Russian blogs. The guy who said he is there removed the message later on. Hope he is ok

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    Re: The Situation in the Ukraine. #4

    Post  macedonian on Tue May 06, 2014 9:11 pm

    Vann7 wrote:
    The Head of the Jewish Community of Ukraine Speaks Out Against Putin ( he has no problem with SVOBODA..!!)


    Not surprising. Jews hate and envy Russia super power status. Also shows that vast majority of Jews are Zionist too.They hate Russia for interfering in the Israel middle east expansionism plans and its support to Syria and IRAN rights for independence and nuclear development in the last one. Now we now the side that Israel will take ,the side of the neonazis revolution. LOL  IF they can support Alqaeda in Syria.. supporting neonazis in Ukraine is nothing.. They will support anyone as long it will help them create a negative world image of Russia and damage its economy.

    Not Jews in general, but hardcore Zionists. Don't confuse the two.
    We've all seen that RT episode of CrossTalk where prof Stephen Cohen (who is a Jew) had a very realistic view on this whole mess that America is instigating in Ukraine (his words more or less). And that's just one example.

    Putting all Jews in the same basket is like saying that all Orthodox Christians are anti-Semites. Which would insult me, being an Orthodox Christian.

    I know you probably didn't mean to say all Jews, but I still wanted to clarify.

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    Re: The Situation in the Ukraine. #4

    Post  macedonian on Tue May 06, 2014 9:37 pm

    RT's Paula Slier tweets:

    RT wrote:Hearing reports that a checkpoint was attacked in #Mariupol. At least one person killed and three injured.
    Activists say the attack is carried out by pro-Ukrainian forces and Right Sector radicals.

    I hope the RightSektor guys...well...kinda "stay" there forever.  sniper 

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    Re: The Situation in the Ukraine. #4

    Post  arpakola on Tue May 06, 2014 9:39 pm

    macedonian wrote:
    Vann7 wrote:
    The Head of the Jewish Community of Ukraine Speaks Out Against Putin ( he has no problem with SVOBODA..!!)


    Not surprising. Jews hate and envy Russia super power status. Also shows that vast majority of Jews are Zionist too.They hate Russia for interfering in the Israel middle east expansionism plans and its support to Syria and IRAN rights for independence and nuclear development in the last one. Now we now the side that Israel will take ,the side of the neonazis revolution. LOL  IF they can support Alqaeda in Syria.. supporting neonazis in Ukraine is nothing.. They will support anyone as long it will help them create a negative world image of Russia and damage its economy.

    Not Jews in general, but hardcore Zionists. Don't confuse the two.
    We've all seen that RT episode of CrossTalk where prof Stephen Cohen (who is a Jew) had a very realistic view on this whole mess that America is instigating in Ukraine (his words more or less). And that's just one example.

    Putting all Jews in the same basket is like saying that all Orthodox Christians are anti-Semites. Which would insult me, being an Orthodox Christian.

    I know you probably didn't mean to say all Jews, but I still wanted to clarify.

    true..

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