Werewolf wrote: KiloGolf wrote:
Werewolf wrote:Paper tiger it is, without any SAM capabilities besides useless US technologies. You could literally wipe entire Israel out without fearing retaliation since they do not have proper TABM let alone SAM's to deal with a Nation vs Nation war.
They have PAC-2 and PAC-3 in great quantity as far as I remember. PAC-2 has a range of 96 km which for a small, narrow country like Israel is more than enough. PAC-3 and PAC-2/GEM add anti-ballistic and anti-cruise missile capability. They've got I-HAWK (upgraded by themselves) as complement and last but not least they have their own Arrow for theater defense with range of 90-150 km depending on version.
How is that "without any SAM capabilities"?
Non of that systems will stand against an actual army, no day dreaming will help you for a country like Israel that soley depends on other countries for money and technology to sustain itself in the region along with US that invades and bombs countries in the region that have or could be independent or a military challange. They literally could not do jack shit if any neighbouring country would start using massive attack of Scuds on them, they do not have anti-ballistic capabilities and US systems in Anti-Ballistic or even Anti-Cruise Missile capabilities are a joke. Hell that country would not even last despite having some illegal nukes.
People must be dreaming to believe Israel is some military that should be feared or respected. Everything they have are not their own, they do not have an MIC not even on the levels of Poland and far inferior than Iran has and Iran got only some ToT since past 2 years or less from Russia. Iran despite being blockaded and sanctioned and constantly attacked with illegal attacks against their scientists and citizens murdered by Mossad, CIA, Mi5 and BND are independent and have sustain their place. Let us see what will happen to the so mighty Israel when they get sanctioned in equal manner like Iran. They will vaporize within a year, no money, no supplies, blocked from almost all markets and facing several UN Resolutions. Well there are enough reasons to sanction Israel, from genocide to illegal nuclear program which other countries falsley acqused were destroyed like Iraq.
Israel is a paper tiger.
I wouldnt agree on that statement saying that Israel has nothing on its own. They are tiny country, still they have more patents per year than some of the most developed countries in the world. Their industry is very developed considering their resources, actually in many aspects they are way ahead than most of the countries consdiered as "superpowers".
Just look at weapons armies around the globe use that is produced by Israel. Jericho pistol, Uzi submachine gun, Tavor assault rifle in all variants, Galil/Micro Galil, Negev MG, Matarod AT, Spike ATGM, Nimrod/Lahat ATGMs, Soltam howtizers...dozens of different UAV platforms used by some 60 countries even Russia and US. They hold almost 40% of worlds UAV and unmanned platforms market..they have half of Moscows population.
Or Merkavas, they were always exceptional machines every in its period of time, they updated, modernised or completely changed role of couple thousand vehicles of foreign design to suit their needs in an exceptional way. Improved performance of hundreds of combat aircraft of various types even when original supplier refused to aid them, and they actually did it in viable timeframe unlike some *cough Iran *cough.
Israel spends 4.4 percent of its gross domestic product in research and development, the highest percentage in the world, 30% of which is directly refering to military projects. Elbit provides avionics for half of the world basically from Brasilian Embraer to Russian Sukhoi.