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    Post  flamming_python on Fri Dec 11, 2015 1:15 pm

    Solncepek wrote:French mercenary killed in Yemen. His name is reportedly called Philip Fordan.

    At least 20 foreign mercenaries killed & injured while trying to advance towards Houthi-held Omari Camp (Brigade 17) in Dhubab. Taiz Yemen

    BREAKING: Another mercenary, Ferdinand Lamos of Argentina, died after sustained his wound clashing with Houthis near Omari. Taiz Yemen

    An American ship was later reportedly sent to save Ferdinand's life, but he died after sustaining injuries when he was on board.

    Report says Ferdinand Lamos previously worked in a French group called "Foreign Legion" which has links to Blackwater.

    BREAKING: Local media reports Yemen army captured 8 Sudanese & 4 Bangladeshis after clashing with Coalition forces in Sharija near Lahj.


    Seems the Saudis are running on fumes. Saudi and other Gulf armies are not in any mood for fighting than Saddam's army was in 1991 or 2003. Whenever they get attacked or ambushed they cut and run.
    So now they're relying on mercenaries but instead of running away they just end up getting killed or captured.

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    Post  Godric on Fri Dec 11, 2015 2:38 pm

    flamming_python wrote:
    Solncepek wrote:French mercenary killed in Yemen. His name is reportedly called Philip Fordan.

    At least 20 foreign mercenaries killed & injured while trying to advance towards Houthi-held Omari Camp (Brigade 17) in Dhubab. Taiz Yemen

    BREAKING: Another mercenary, Ferdinand Lamos of Argentina, died after sustained his wound clashing with Houthis near Omari. Taiz Yemen

    An American ship was later reportedly sent to save Ferdinand's life, but he died after sustaining injuries when he was on board.

    Report says Ferdinand Lamos previously worked in a French group called "Foreign Legion" which has links to Blackwater.

    BREAKING: Local media reports Yemen army captured 8 Sudanese & 4 Bangladeshis after clashing with Coalition forces in Sharija near Lahj.


    Seems the Saudis are running on fumes. Saudi and other Gulf armies are not in any mood for fighting than Saddam's army was in 1991 or 2003. Whenever they get attacked or ambushed they cut and run.
    So now they're relying on mercenaries but instead of running away they just end up getting killed or captured.

    I would say about from now and the next 6 months would be a good time for the Shia in Saudi Arabia to rise up with the backing of Iran the longer this war goes on the weaker the Saudis will become and with the bulk of the Saudi oil in shia dominant area and the gross incompetence of the Saudi army ... Iran should be looking for covert ways to arm the shia people in Saudi

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    Post  KoTeMoRe on Fri Dec 11, 2015 3:40 pm

    flamming_python wrote:
    Solncepek wrote:French mercenary killed in Yemen. His name is reportedly called Philip Fordan.

    At least 20 foreign mercenaries killed & injured while trying to advance towards Houthi-held Omari Camp (Brigade 17) in Dhubab. Taiz Yemen

    BREAKING: Another mercenary, Ferdinand Lamos of Argentina, died after sustained his wound clashing with Houthis near Omari. Taiz Yemen

    An American ship was later reportedly sent to save Ferdinand's life, but he died after sustaining injuries when he was on board.

    Report says Ferdinand Lamos previously worked in a French group called "Foreign Legion" which has links to Blackwater.

    BREAKING: Local media reports Yemen army captured 8 Sudanese & 4 Bangladeshis after clashing with Coalition forces in Sharija near Lahj.


    Seems the Saudis are running on fumes. Saudi and other Gulf armies are not in any mood for fighting than Saddam's army was in 1991 or 2003. Whenever they get attacked or ambushed they cut and run.
    So now they're relying on mercenaries but instead of running away they just end up getting killed or captured.


    Saudis facing Saddam circa 1989, would have been fucked up twice. Not because Saddam was Naopleon, just because their troops were even worse than now.

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    Post  Walther von Oldenburg on Fri Dec 11, 2015 9:54 pm

    http://www.almasdarnews.com/article/yemeni-army-and-houthis-seize-4-saudi-villages-coalition-forces-devastated/

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    Post  KiloGolf on Fri Dec 11, 2015 9:57 pm

    \"KoTeMoRe wrote:Saudis facing Saddam circa 1989, would have been fucked up twice. Not because Saddam was Naopleon, just because their troops were even worse than now.

    It happened, and Iraqi not only invaded them but also moped the floor with them (they fled from their own city) until Uncle Sam saved them.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Khafji


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    Post  Walther von Oldenburg on Fri Dec 11, 2015 10:06 pm

    ... too late. Saddam should have invaded KSA in August, before US deployed troops. He would then have a fairy high chance of not only destroying KSA but also Emirates, Bahrain and other Gulf sheikhdoms.

    Another question is how would Iraq's neighboors react to this, though.

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    Post  Werewolf on Fri Dec 11, 2015 10:09 pm

    Walther von Oldenburg wrote:... too late. Saddam should have invaded KSA in August, before US deployed troops. He would then have a fairy high chance of not only destroying KSA but also Emirates, Bahrain and other Gulf sheikhdoms.

    Another question is how would Iraq's neighboors react to this, though.

    Call uncle shame.

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    Post  Walther von Oldenburg on Fri Dec 11, 2015 10:20 pm

    Truly, Saddam had no allies in the Middle East. Turkey and Syria would not simply sit and watch how their rival seizes half of world's oil reserves. What a Face

    The best potential killer of KSA is Iran. It has a competent (orders of magnitude more competent than Iraq), self-sufficient army, secure borders from all sides except west and together with Iraqi and Saudi Shias it makes a 100+ mln conglomerate of people.

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    Post  Hannibal Barca on Fri Dec 11, 2015 10:45 pm

    It is well known that the Saudi and the Jewish are the two more useless armies in our galaxy.

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    Post  KiloGolf on Fri Dec 11, 2015 10:52 pm

    Hannibal Barca wrote:It is well known that the Saudi and the Jewish are the two more useless armies in our galaxy.

    Israel has a pretty useful army, the most capable and efficient in the entire region. General Sharon's drive to the canal, flanking of Egyptian artillery, cross to Sinai and methodical destruction of SAM sites is a major example on how they've basically written the book of modern tank, air and joint warfare. And all that after suffering tremendous losses beforehand.

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    Post  Werewolf on Fri Dec 11, 2015 11:10 pm

    Actually IDF is just a paper tiger just as Saudis are, they couldn't handle shit in all the wars without US support on all levels, from finances, intelligence, support, supply, and technological aid from not just US but Germany, France, Russia/Soviet Union and what not. So many technologies ended up in israel from those countries and have never been developed in Israel nor established knowledge, research and studies to get to that kind of knowledge all imported, illegaly, legaly and right out victimhood aid to help the helpless jews. Paper tiger it is, without any SAM capabilities besides useless US technologies. You could literally wipe entire Israel out without fearing retaliation since they do not have proper TABM let alone SAM's to deal with a Nation vs Nation war.

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    Post  KoTeMoRe on Fri Dec 11, 2015 11:57 pm

    Werewolf wrote:Actually IDF is just a paper tiger just as Saudis are, they couldn't handle shit in all the wars without US support on all levels, from finances, intelligence, support, supply, and technological aid from not just US but Germany, France, Russia/Soviet Union and what not. So many technologies ended up in israel from those countries and have never been developed in Israel nor established knowledge, research and studies to get to that kind of knowledge all imported, illegaly, legaly and right out victimhood aid to help the helpless jews. Paper tiger it is, without any SAM capabilities besides useless US technologies. You could literally wipe entire Israel out without fearing retaliation since they do not have proper TABM let alone SAM's to deal with a Nation vs Nation war.

    That's absurd. While the US support is mission critical, Big IZ has a very effective conscription system.

    The major issue is one they can't do anything about. They've got no strategic depth. Basically if any attack gets to Haifa or Tel Aviv the country is close to collapse. The worst part is that Israel can't have any of that strategic depth, because of how it is set in the region. They're always on the verge.

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    Post  KoTeMoRe on Fri Dec 11, 2015 11:58 pm

    Walther von Oldenburg wrote:... too late. Saddam should have invaded KSA in August, before US deployed troops. He would then have a fairy high chance of not only destroying KSA but also Emirates, Bahrain and other Gulf sheikhdoms.

    Another question is how would Iraq's neighboors react to this, though.


    Saddam invades KSA in August, Baghdad gets burn to the ground. KSA was, is and will be the spoiled brat of Uncle Sham.

    KG: Yeah, there are more pitiful stories about the KSA intervention vs Yemen in 2009. Like half the cars were bogged down because the Saudis would fry the trannies on them by trying to get out of dodge.

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    Post  Militarov on Sat Dec 12, 2015 12:42 am

    KoTeMoRe wrote:
    Werewolf wrote:Actually IDF is just a paper tiger just as Saudis are, they couldn't handle shit in all the wars without US support on all levels, from finances, intelligence, support, supply, and technological aid from not just US but Germany, France, Russia/Soviet Union and what not. So many technologies ended up in israel from those countries and have never been developed in Israel nor established knowledge, research and studies to get to that kind of knowledge all imported, illegaly, legaly and right out victimhood aid to help the helpless jews. Paper tiger it is, without any SAM capabilities besides useless US technologies. You could literally wipe entire Israel out without fearing retaliation since they do not have proper TABM let alone SAM's to deal with a Nation vs Nation war.

    That's absurd. While the US support is mission critical, Big IZ has a very effective conscription system.

    The major issue is one they can't do anything about. They've got no strategic depth. Basically if any attack gets to Haifa or Tel Aviv the country is close to collapse. The worst part is that Israel can't have any of that strategic depth, because of how it is set in the region. They're always on the verge.

    I am big fan of Israelis as Army, you cant denie the fact they did alot with fairly limited resources few times though last 60 years, not big fan of them in political terms tho.

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    Post  flamming_python on Sat Dec 12, 2015 1:51 am

    Hannibal Barca wrote:It is well known that the Saudi and the Jewish are the two more useless armies in our galaxy.

    There is no Jewish army.

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    Post  KoTeMoRe on Sat Dec 12, 2015 2:07 am

    Militarov wrote:
    KoTeMoRe wrote:
    Werewolf wrote:Actually IDF is just a paper tiger just as Saudis are, they couldn't handle shit in all the wars without US support on all levels, from finances, intelligence, support, supply, and technological aid from not just US but Germany, France, Russia/Soviet Union and what not. So many technologies ended up in israel from those countries and have never been developed in Israel nor established knowledge, research and studies to get to that kind of knowledge all imported, illegaly, legaly and right out victimhood aid to help the helpless jews. Paper tiger it is, without any SAM capabilities besides useless US technologies. You could literally wipe entire Israel out without fearing retaliation since they do not have proper TABM let alone SAM's to deal with a Nation vs Nation war.

    That's absurd. While the US support is mission critical, Big IZ has a very effective conscription system.

    The major issue is one they can't do anything about. They've got no strategic depth. Basically if any attack gets to Haifa or Tel Aviv the country is close to collapse. The worst part is that Israel can't have any of that strategic depth, because of how it is set in the region. They're always on the verge.

    I am big fan of Israelis as Army, you cant denie the fact they did alot with fairly limited resources few times though last 60 years, not big fan of them in political terms tho.

    There's a reason why I call them Big Iz. They've been adapting the conscription to a very modern army and mindset. Their vision of close combat (MOUT/FIBUA/Whatever) is truly ground breaking (litterally). Nevertheless, the policies of Israel are dictated by the reality they face. They're just a land strip. It shit was to hit the fan for real (like the YK war) they'd have to fight for their survival (as they did).

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    Post  Hannibal Barca on Sat Dec 12, 2015 1:38 pm

    flamming_python wrote:
    Hannibal Barca wrote:It is well known that the Saudi and the Jewish are the two more useless armies in our galaxy.

    There is no Jewish army.

    It seems we got a terrorist supporter in our company.

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    Post  PapaDragon on Sat Dec 12, 2015 1:42 pm

    Hannibal Barca wrote:
    flamming_python wrote:
    Hannibal Barca wrote:It is well known that the Saudi and the Jewish are the two more useless armies in our galaxy.

    There is no Jewish army.

    It seems we got a terrorist supporter in our company.

    Oh please do elaborate....

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    Post  KiloGolf on Sat Dec 12, 2015 8:18 pm

    Werewolf wrote:Paper tiger it is, without any SAM capabilities besides useless US technologies. You could literally wipe entire Israel out without fearing retaliation since they do not have proper TABM let alone SAM's to deal with a Nation vs Nation war.

    They have PAC-2 and PAC-3 in great quantity as far as I remember. PAC-2 has a range of 96 km which for a small, narrow country like Israel is more than enough. PAC-3 and PAC-2/GEM add anti-ballistic and anti-cruise missile capability. They've got I-HAWK (upgraded by themselves) as complement and last but not least they have their own Arrow for theater defense with range of 90-150 km depending on version.

    How is that "without any SAM capabilities"? Neutral

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    Post  Werewolf on Sat Dec 12, 2015 9:00 pm

    KiloGolf wrote:
    Werewolf wrote:Paper tiger it is, without any SAM capabilities besides useless US technologies. You could literally wipe entire Israel out without fearing retaliation since they do not have proper TABM let alone SAM's to deal with a Nation vs Nation war.

    They have PAC-2 and PAC-3 in great quantity as far as I remember. PAC-2 has a range of 96 km which for a small, narrow country like Israel is more than enough. PAC-3 and PAC-2/GEM add anti-ballistic and anti-cruise missile capability. They've got I-HAWK (upgraded by themselves) as complement and last but not least they have their own Arrow for theater defense with range of 90-150 km depending on version.

    How is that "without any SAM capabilities"? Neutral

    Non of that systems will stand against an actual army, no day dreaming will help you for a country like Israel that soley depends on other countries for money and technology to sustain itself in the region along with US that invades and bombs countries in the region that have or could be independent or a military challange. They literally could not do jack shit if any neighbouring country would start using massive attack of Scuds on them, they do not have anti-ballistic capabilities and US systems in Anti-Ballistic or even Anti-Cruise Missile capabilities are a joke. Hell that country would not even last despite having some illegal nukes.

    People must be dreaming to believe Israel is some military that should be feared or respected. Everything they have are not their own, they do not have an MIC not even on the levels of Poland and far inferior than Iran has and Iran got only some ToT since past 2 years or less from Russia. Iran despite being blockaded and sanctioned and constantly attacked with illegal attacks against their scientists and citizens murdered by Mossad, CIA, Mi5 and BND are independent and have sustain their place. Let us see what will happen to the so mighty Israel when they get sanctioned in equal manner like Iran. They will vaporize within a year, no money, no supplies, blocked from almost all markets and facing several UN Resolutions. Well there are enough reasons to sanction Israel, from genocide to illegal nuclear program which other countries falsley acqused were destroyed like Iraq.

    Israel is a paper tiger.

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    Post  sepheronx on Sat Dec 12, 2015 9:07 pm

    KiloGolf wrote:
    Werewolf wrote:Paper tiger it is, without any SAM capabilities besides useless US technologies. You could literally wipe entire Israel out without fearing retaliation since they do not have proper TABM let alone SAM's to deal with a Nation vs Nation war.

    They have PAC-2 and PAC-3 in great quantity as far as I remember. PAC-2 has a range of 96 km which for a small, narrow country like Israel is more than enough. PAC-3 and PAC-2/GEM add anti-ballistic and anti-cruise missile capability. They've got I-HAWK (upgraded by themselves) as complement and last but not least they have their own Arrow for theater defense with range of 90-150 km depending on version.

    How is that "without any SAM capabilities"? Neutral

    Well, PAC-3 Anti Ballistic missile system failed horribly in Saudi Arabia. So I wouldn't really count on that being effective against a large scale attack from 1960's basic ballistic missiles.

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    Post  Militarov on Sat Dec 12, 2015 9:38 pm

    Werewolf wrote:
    KiloGolf wrote:
    Werewolf wrote:Paper tiger it is, without any SAM capabilities besides useless US technologies. You could literally wipe entire Israel out without fearing retaliation since they do not have proper TABM let alone SAM's to deal with a Nation vs Nation war.

    They have PAC-2 and PAC-3 in great quantity as far as I remember. PAC-2 has a range of 96 km which for a small, narrow country like Israel is more than enough. PAC-3 and PAC-2/GEM add anti-ballistic and anti-cruise missile capability. They've got I-HAWK (upgraded by themselves) as complement and last but not least they have their own Arrow for theater defense with range of 90-150 km depending on version.

    How is that "without any SAM capabilities"? Neutral

    Non of that systems will stand against an actual army, no day dreaming will help you for a country like Israel that soley depends on other countries for money and technology to sustain itself in the region along with US that invades and bombs countries in the region that have or could be independent or a military challange. They literally could not do jack shit if any neighbouring country would start using massive attack of Scuds on them, they do not have anti-ballistic capabilities and US systems in Anti-Ballistic or even Anti-Cruise Missile capabilities are a joke. Hell that country would not even last despite having some illegal nukes.

    People must be dreaming to believe Israel is some military that should be feared or respected. Everything they have are not their own, they do not have an MIC not even on the levels of Poland and far inferior than Iran has and Iran got only some ToT since past 2 years or less from Russia. Iran despite being blockaded and sanctioned and constantly attacked with illegal attacks against their scientists and citizens murdered by Mossad, CIA, Mi5 and BND are independent and have sustain their place. Let us see what will happen to the so mighty Israel when they get sanctioned in equal manner like Iran. They will vaporize within a year, no money, no supplies, blocked from almost all markets and facing several UN Resolutions. Well there are enough reasons to sanction Israel, from genocide to illegal nuclear program which other countries falsley acqused were destroyed like Iraq.

    Israel is a paper tiger.

    I wouldnt agree on that statement saying that Israel has nothing on its own. They are tiny country, still they have more patents per year than some of the most developed countries in the world. Their industry is very developed considering their resources, actually in many aspects they are way ahead than most of the countries consdiered as "superpowers".

    Just look at weapons armies around the globe use that is produced by Israel. Jericho pistol, Uzi submachine gun, Tavor assault rifle in all variants, Galil/Micro Galil, Negev MG, Matarod AT, Spike ATGM, Nimrod/Lahat ATGMs, Soltam howtizers...dozens of different UAV platforms used by some 60 countries even Russia and US. They hold almost 40% of worlds UAV and unmanned platforms market..they have half of Moscows population.

    Or Merkavas, they were always exceptional machines every in its period of time, they updated, modernised or completely changed role of couple thousand vehicles of foreign design to suit their needs in an exceptional way. Improved performance of hundreds of combat aircraft of various types even when original supplier refused to aid them, and they actually did it in viable timeframe unlike some *cough Iran *cough.

    Israel spends 4.4 percent of its gross domestic product in research and development, the highest percentage in the world, 30% of which is directly refering to military projects. Elbit provides avionics for half of the world basically from Brasilian Embraer to Russian Sukhoi.

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    Post  Kadmos45 on Sat Dec 12, 2015 9:56 pm

    Werewolf wrote: Everything they have are not their own, they do not have an MIC not even on the levels of Poland

    lol!  Joke of the decade !

    You don't know much about Poland do you ?

    It's like comparing Merkava with Fiat126p.

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    Post  Werewolf on Sat Dec 12, 2015 10:47 pm

    Kadmos45 wrote:
    Werewolf wrote: Everything they have are not their own, they do not have an MIC not even on the levels of Poland

    lol!  Joke of the decade !

    You don't know much about Poland do you ?

    It's like comparing Merkava with Fiat126p.

    You do understand what a MIC is?

    Producing just a tank is not a developed MIC. Tanks will not defend your country against a equal military.

    Defending an entire country how small it be is always a big deal that requires technologies and independence from other countries or political games of other possible providers. Israel does not have a MIC, they do not produce domestic products for military that are above operational level of weapons plattforms, communition or coordination technologies to be useful against other countries. It is a very tiny country that has no such means and could not do anything besides produce Merkawas which they do in very tiny numbers and their entire MIC is in no mangitude to provide their own little country with necessary technology nor with quantity to become independent or at least sustain or repel enemy attacks.

    They produce copies and reverse engineered fire arms based on others technology, they produce some ATGM's based on knowledge and patents from Soviet Union, they produce some tanks with lot of spare parts from abroad and thats it. They do not produce any SAM's above SHORAD with questionable effeciency, they do not produce any kind of aircrafts of own production that are not either kit build or license produced of sub parts, nor do they produce any tactical or strategic weapons on their own besides illegal nukes they could not develop themselfs without US/SA and who knows who else helped them to acquire nuclear technology aswell ballistic missiles technology.

    MIC of Iran is years ahead of Israel, they produce at least some things on their own during, sanction times, during assassinations by that Papertiger Israel and western whores that are acting against Iran and their scientists. If not for western controlled illegal support of this Terror regime it would crumble and would be wiped out by anyone.

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    Post  kvs on Sat Dec 12, 2015 11:00 pm

    Kadmos45 wrote:
    Werewolf wrote: Everything they have are not their own, they do not have an MIC not even on the levels of Poland

    lol!  Joke of the decade !

    You don't know much about Poland do you ?

    It's like comparing Merkava with Fiat126p.


    So Poland produces its own tanks, jet aircraft, surface to air missiles, etc?

    Really?

    Germany owns Poland.

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