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    Re: Russian Army Robots

    Post  flamming_python on Sun Mar 22, 2015 1:29 pm

    Regular wrote:That Daft Punk robot was really pathetic. Embarassed Compare it to Boston Dynamics works. I should be worked on before actually showing it. Net analogov vmire. Ffs. Hope they are not running on air and have proper financing.

    The point is that it's an avatar. It mimics the movements of its controller. Thus its infinitately flexible and you can use it to do anything - fire a machine-gun, drag a wounded man out of no-man's land, get into a vehicle and drive-off, etc... whatever you need it to do - it will do. I'm thinking that for starters, it would be great to have it drive around a medevac vehicle and evacuate wounded from the front-line, getting itself into the line of fire if needed.

    I don't think anyone else has done an avatar-robot yet for military-use, although I may be wrong.

    I'm possitive about those unmmaned fighting vehicles. They would be perfect for VDV. You can fit two of them instead of 1 BMD if there is a need to have more firepower. This vehicle could serve as a platform for SHORAD as in today it's very automatized. 1 operator would be enough. It could be semi autonomous with operator only needed to clarify and engage the targets.

    Teletanks basically - in WW2 it was shown that actual crew members are more reliable and cheaper.

    But of course that was in WW2. Nowadays having no crew is cheaper than having an actual crew inside that can be killed in combat, and the technology is more reliable and controllable - than the very complex system of electromagnetic relays used to drive and crudely aim teletanks remotely 75 years ago.

    The thing is though is that for every such teletank, you need a remote operator, perhaps 2. They will have to sit in their own, seperate vehicle - so really; you're not going to be saving any space if you plan to use something like this for the VDV.

    I'm guessing they will be used and controlled quite similarly to this T-72 Teletank project:

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    Re: Russian Army Robots

    Post  Big_Gazza on Sun Mar 22, 2015 3:07 pm

    Any Avatar or remotely-controlled system is always vulnerable to jamming, disabling by localised area-effect EMP weapons, or even hacking attacks to take over the vehicle . Autonomous systems clearly do not share this vulnerability, but can AI systems be developed that allow machines to operate independently and reliably? Can they navigate a battlefield and perform correct target designation? Would we ever trust a collection of code and sensor inputs to control lethal weaponry?

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    Re: Russian Army Robots

    Post  flamming_python on Sun Mar 22, 2015 3:21 pm

    Big_Gazza wrote:Any Avatar or remotely-controlled system is always vulnerable to jamming, disabling by localised area-effect EMP weapons, or even hacking attacks to take over the vehicle .  Autonomous systems clearly do not share this vulnerability, but can AI systems be developed that allow machines to operate independently and reliably? Can they navigate a battlefield and perform correct target designation? Would we ever trust a collection of code and sensor inputs to control lethal weaponry?

    Yes they are vulnerable to jamming of their cameras/sensors and control systems, their cameras getting damaged or destroyed through blasts and fragmentation, their command vehicles getting flanked and taken out and perhaps even of getting taken over by the enemy remotely, or disabled & captured physically along with all their sensitive equipment and encryption algorithms.

    There are many dangers here that do not exist or aren't so significant when you have a physical crew present in the vheicle.

    For sure remote-controlled vehicles such as avatars, teletanks and UAVs are not suitable for every use. They should be deployed only in an appropriate scenario/environment and used carefully.

    But a teletank company in an AT brigade or combat engineer battallion - would be pretty awesome pirat

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    Re: Russian Army Robots

    Post  collegeboy16 on Sun Mar 22, 2015 4:51 pm

    Regular wrote:That Daft Punk robot was really pathetic. Embarassed

    as a murderbot its pathetic in its current state, yes. but its not made to be a murderbot in the first place- more like avatar as f_p said. then again nothing stops it from being sniper's avatar for instance, and it will really do great in that role once the whole thing is allowed to mature.
    Regular wrote:Compare it to Boston Dynamics works. I should be worked on before actually showing it. Net analogov vmire. Ffs. Hope they are not running on air and have proper financing.

    i dont see how boston dynamics works are better in any substantial way to the daft punk robo.

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    Re: Russian Army Robots

    Post  AlfaT8 on Sun Mar 22, 2015 5:11 pm

    collegeboy16 wrote:
    Regular wrote:Compare it to Boston Dynamics works. I should be worked on before actually showing it. Net analogov vmire. Ffs. Hope they are not running on air and have proper financing.

    i dont see how boston dynamics works are better in any substantial way to the daft punk robo.

    Nor do i, if anything the ones from BD seem kinda overkill.


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    Re: Russian Army Robots

    Post  GarryB on Mon Mar 23, 2015 9:07 am

    I don't think something has to look cool to be useful.

    Having a robot shaped like a human means that robot can use equipment designed for use by humans like small arms and vehicles, though the robot will be able to carry rather higher weights.... imagine the PKP with a backpack ammo feed system with 5,000 rounds ready to fire... or Kord with a back pack ammo feed system with 1,000 rounds ready to fire...

    Or a 40mm grenade launcher with a 2.5km range with a back pack feed for 600 grenades or so...


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    Re: Russian Army Robots

    Post  Big_Gazza on Mon Mar 23, 2015 2:17 pm

    If I was designing a ground combat infantry drone, I'd make it a hexapod or octopod.  That would give it outstanding stability (redundant limbs in event of damage and extremely resistant to toppling over on rough ground, and teh multiple legs would facilitate getting back up if it did fall) and the extra legs allow it to brace to absorb recoil when firing heavy weapons.  It would be kind of like a crab or spider, but armed to the teeth and with a bad attitude Laughing

    Something like this....



    Well, maybe not so darkly gothic, but you get the idea... Laughing

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    Re: Russian Army Robots

    Post  George1 on Fri Mar 27, 2015 4:40 pm

    Russian Combat Robots to Be on Display at Army 2015 Forum

    Russian combat robots will be showcased for the first time at the upcoming international military-technical forum Army-2015.

    The Russian Defense Ministry will for the first time present its combat robots at the international military-technical forum "Army 2015", which will take place in June, Russian sources said.

    "The Russian Defense Ministry's main research and testing robotics center will for the first time present the results of their work in the field of robotics at the international exhibition area in the Moscow Region town of Kubinka," the ministry's press service said on Friday.

    It added that the Army-2015 forum will see the presentation of characteristics of combat and double-purpose robots made in Russia and beyond.

    Additionally, visitors will see an archive of tests of ground, water and air robots.

    "The center's exhibition stand will also present several experimental models of robots for military purposes," the press service said.

    According to it, the first batch of robots has already been supplied to the engineering troops, navy, as well as reconnaissance units of land and airborne forcers.

    The center's robotics-related activity includes work on the creation of unmanned aerial vehicles, ground robots, underwater unmanned vehicles and unmanned motor boats.

    The international military-technical forum Army-2015 will be held in Patriot recreational park in Kubinka between June 16 and June 19.

    Read more: http://sputniknews.com/russia/20150327/1020084919.html#ixzz3VbJZ2WBZ

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    Re: Russian Army Robots

    Post  Zivo on Sun Mar 29, 2015 5:40 am

    Russian Company KAMAZ will create artificial city as testing ground for unmanned vehicles.

    http://www.armyrecognition.com/march_2015_global_defense_security_news_uk/russian_company_kamaz_will_create_artificial_city_as_testing_ground_for_unmanned_vehicles.html

    Russian Company KAMAZ is proposing to create an artificial city as a testing ground for unmanned vehicles. (...) In it, trucks without drivers will test out moving through traffic and navigating complex intersections and pedestrian crossings. Models of cars, motorcyclists, bicyclists, and pedestrians will be placed on the testing ground. (...) The automaker plans to develop about 20 prototypes of unmanned vehicles for different purposes by 2025.

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    Re: Russian Army Robots

    Post  magnumcromagnon on Sun Mar 29, 2015 1:51 pm

    Awesome new footage!


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    Re: Russian Army Robots

    Post  George1 on Wed Apr 01, 2015 10:08 pm

    MRK-002-BG-57 combat robot




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    Re: Russian Army Robots

    Post  Reizvault on Fri Apr 03, 2015 10:21 pm

    That's a nice robot.
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    Re: Russian Army Robots

    Post  George1 on Wed Apr 29, 2015 1:34 pm

    Lock and Load: Russian Hybrid Robo-Soldiers Could Be Just Five Years Away

    Read more: http://sputniknews.com/russia/20150429/1021513320.html#ixzz3YhH28ptO

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    Re: Russian Army Robots

    Post  George1 on Tue May 12, 2015 4:15 pm

    Russia to develop tracked modular robot for combat, Arctic expeditions

    The robotized vehicle will be able to provide reconnaissance, deliver strikes, patrol and clear obstacles

    MOSCOW, May 12. /TASS/. The United Instrument-Making Corporation integrated into Russia’s state hi-tech firm Rostec is developing a universal tracked modular robotized platform for combat, fire-extinguishing operations and Arctic expeditions, a Russian defense official said on Tuesday.

    "The platform was fully designed by Russian engineers and can carry two tons of payload. It moves at a speed of 40 km/hr [25 miles per hour] and has a unique control system and dimensions allowing for its use in urban conditions," the defense official said.

    The developer intends to use the URP-01G platform to produce complexes for reconnaissance and delivering strikes, protection and patrolling, vehicles for mine and obstacle clearing, radiation and chemical reconnaissance, as well as vehicles for police and Arctic expeditions.

    "At present, the firm Sistemprom [the platform developer] is developing a unique automated combat module with large-caliber machine-guns and the grenade launcher compartment and is designing the strike and reconnaissance modules with the use of aircraft," the defense official said.

    United Instrument-Making Corporation Deputy CEO Sergey Skokov said the robotized vehicle is designed for operations in areas most hazardous for humans.

    Today the UPR-01G platform can operate in a semi-automated mode within the 10 km (6 mile) radius from the control center.

    In the future, the system will get a technical vision system allowing it to identify objects and navigate without the operator’s help, and also to get fully automated control with the elements of artificial intellect.

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    Re: Russian Army Robots

    Post  George1 on Tue May 12, 2015 8:46 pm

    Russia Developing Universal Platform for Combat Robots

    A subsidiary of the Russian state technologies corporation Rostec is developing a universal tracked robotic platform that could be used in both combat and rescue operations, the company's deputy CEO said Tuesday.

    MOSCOW (Sputnik) — The platform, entirely designed by Russian engineers, can be controlled remotely and operated in an urban environment, he emphasized.

    "The URP-01G robotic platform is a universal armored vehicle designed to work in locations that represent a serious threat to people's lives. It can be used during military action, reconnaissance, emergency situations, rescue operations and demining," Sergey Skokov told reporters.

    According to Skokov, Rostec's subsidiary United Instrument Manufacturing Corporation (UIMC) is set to produce a range of systems based on the URP-01G platform.

    The deputy CEO listed various purposes to which the systems could be tailored, such as carrying out strikes, protecting and patrolling, mine clearing, radiation and chemical reconnaissance, as well as for police and Arctic expeditions.

    The creation of robotic systems is considered by a range of Western states to be one of the most promising directions for the development of their armed forces. Russia is also assigning special importance to the manufacture of such systems, something underscored by the decision to include them in the 2016-2025 State Armament Program.

    Read more: http://sputniknews.com/military/20150512/1022052969.html#ixzz3Zx2t3ERQ

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    Re: Russian Army Robots

    Post  alexZam on Wed May 13, 2015 12:11 am

    Great thread. I see perspective in near future. Most def.

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    Post  Book. on Wed May 13, 2015 8:59 am

    I like idea drone t72

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    Post  George1 on Thu May 14, 2015 2:24 pm

    Russia’s Uran combat robotic system passes field testing — source

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    Post  2SPOOKY4U on Fri May 15, 2015 6:03 am




    Army is getting some cool toys.

    At the end, it fires a missile. If you look closely at the two different launchers, you will see that the Uran has two larger ones on the right launcher, and three smaller ones on the left.

    I am going to assume that the ones on the right are most likely Metis, or Kornet(Hopefully Kornet-EM attack ) and the ones on the left are unguided, perhaps RPO-A or Byp.

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    Post  Cyberspec on Fri May 15, 2015 10:07 am

    Pity the video is so short...

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    Post  GarryB on Fri May 15, 2015 12:15 pm

    they have a huge range of rocket types that could be used... from the engineer rockets like RPO, LPO, and MRO families of rockets to the thermobaric engineer rockets for a range of targets.


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    Re: Russian Army Robots

    Post  George1 on Mon May 18, 2015 12:56 pm

    Combat robots of the Uran family have been armed with anti-tank system

    The Ataka system is meant for destroying tanks and other armour and small size targets, fortifications, manpower and air targets flying at low altitudes

    MOSCOW, May 18. /TASS/. The multi-functional combat robots of the Uran family have been armed with the remote-controlled weapon systems Ataka, a source in the defence-industrial complex has told TASS.

    According to earlier reports, the Uran robots underwent successful testing at a proving ground in Novorossiysk, including live gun and machine-gun firing tests and launches of guided anti-tank missiles. Defence Minister Sergey Shoigu watched the trials.

    Later, a source in the defence industry told TASS that future robots might be equipped with electric transmission.

    The Ataka system is meant for destroying tanks and other armour and small size targets, fortifications, manpower and air targets flying at low altitudes at a speed of up to 400 kilometers per hour. Also, Ataka can be used for small tonnage surface targets. The system is capable of operating in day and night-time conditions.

    Ataka is installed inside the turrets and combat compartments of various combat vehicles and also on naval ships.

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    Post  Flanky on Mon May 18, 2015 1:32 pm

    Good. Now they have to thought of a system how to operate there robots on bigger distances? UAV retransmission? SATCOMM?

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    Post  2SPOOKY4U on Thu May 21, 2015 2:18 am

    Flanky wrote:Good. Now they have to thought of a system how to operate there robots on bigger distances? UAV retransmission? SATCOMM?

    These are for urban situations, why would you need to operate them from long distances.

    I believe these can be operated from 5km away max, and can be operated from a command vehicle.

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    Post  Flanky on Thu May 21, 2015 11:08 am

    Well because of recon missions on the ground? For front line fighting and urban areas its ok but you might want to have "boots" on the ground patrolling borders for example or front line.... as a complement to UAVs... or to have dedicated base protection hardware is not a bad thing as well... kind of mobile automated defense turrets.... I mean thats the current development trend.

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