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    Re: Aircraft Carrier Admiral Kuznetsov: News

    Post  MotherlandCalls on Mon Aug 04, 2014 4:19 pm

    Flyingdutchman wrote:Russia's ITAR-TASS news agency reported the "Admiral Kuznetsov" will undergo repair and modernization during the next three to four years.


    I readed this in the following link:


    Excellent news! Good to finally see an update on this situation but I will not hold my breath, seeing as Admiral Kuznetsov was scheduled for this sort of modernization all the way back in 2010. russia
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    Re: Aircraft Carrier Admiral Kuznetsov: News

    Post  Flyingdutchman on Mon Aug 04, 2014 8:31 pm

    MotherlandCalls wrote:
    Flyingdutchman wrote:Russia's ITAR-TASS news agency reported the "Admiral Kuznetsov" will undergo repair and modernization during the next three to four years.


    I readed this in the following link:


    Excellent news! Good to finally see an update on this situation but I will not hold my breath, seeing as Admiral Kuznetsov was scheduled for this sort of modernization all the way back in 2010. russia

    Yes, but i expect the modernization to begin soon, and as you said it has been delayed alot.  Neutral 

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    Re: Aircraft Carrier Admiral Kuznetsov: News

    Post  GarryB on Tue Aug 05, 2014 5:36 am

    Last mention I read about was for it to be upgraded from 2014 to 2018 or so... what I want to read about is that it has gone into a dry dock to start upgrade and overhaul... rather than "it will..."


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    Re: Aircraft Carrier Admiral Kuznetsov: News

    Post  Flyingdutchman on Tue Aug 05, 2014 10:20 am

    GarryB wrote:Last mention I read about was for it to be upgraded from 2014 to 2018 or so... what I want to read about is that it has gone into a dry dock to start upgrade and overhaul... rather than "it will..."

    Me too, i think it will be an experiment for the next carrier, install some cats, create an awacs airplane, actually exactly what we discussed before but NOT nuclear powered ( alot of things can go wrong ).
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    Re: Aircraft Carrier Admiral Kuznetsov: News

    Post  Flyingdutchman on Fri Aug 29, 2014 4:22 pm

    Is the K fitted with a bow sonar?
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    Post  GarryB on Sun Aug 31, 2014 12:33 pm

    I have read that the propulsion of the Kuznetsov is unreliable... they were developing new compact nuclear power plants for new generation large Russian ships... this would be an excellent opportunity to test them.

    It would also be a good way to ensure there was plenty of electricity always available to operate EM cats.

    It would make no sense at all to try to develop Steam Cats from scratch and so developing EM cats makes rather more sense...

    i would suspect the Kuznetsov probably does not have a bow sonar, but it will likely operate with several ships and subs that do have sonar and would pass any data on to the K using Sigma so that should not be an issue.


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    Re: Aircraft Carrier Admiral Kuznetsov: News

    Post  Flyingdutchman on Sun Aug 31, 2014 12:51 pm

    GarryB wrote:I have read that the propulsion of the Kuznetsov is unreliable... they were developing new compact nuclear power plants for new generation large Russian ships... this would be an excellent opportunity to test them.

    It would also be a good way to ensure there was plenty of electricity always available to operate EM cats.

    It would make no sense at all to try to develop Steam Cats from scratch and so developing EM cats makes rather more sense...

    i would suspect the Kuznetsov probably does not have a bow sonar, but it will likely operate with several ships and subs that do have sonar and would pass any data on to the K using Sigma so that should not be an issue.

    But don't they need to cut the K open to be able to place Nuclear powerplants?
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    Re: Aircraft Carrier Admiral Kuznetsov: News

    Post  Flyingdutchman on Tue Sep 30, 2014 12:24 pm

    Russia's only aircraft carrier, the Soviet-era flagship Admiral Kuznetsov, has returned to sea after going into port for maintenance at the Sevmash Shipyards near Arkhangelsk, Interfax reported Monday.
    The vessel, Russia's largest, is now heading out into the Barents Sea for post-repair sea trials, ensuring that the ship is in working order before resuming normal combat duties, Western Military District spokesperson Vadim Serga was quoted by Interfax as saying.
    In Russian naval parlance, the Kuznetsov is not a proper aircraft carrier but rather a heavy aircraft-carrying cruiser, about half the size of a modern U.S. Nimitz-class aircraft carrier. But the Kuznetsov's cruiser capabilities mean that in addition to launching fighter planes, the warship can pummel enemy surface vessels with anti-ship guided missiles.
    A U.S. Nimitz-class super-carrier displaces more than 100,000 tons — the standard of measurement for ship sizes. The Kuznetsov, by comparison, displaces a mere 55,000 tons with a full load.
    In July, state news agency TASS reported that the Kuznetsov would undergo a massive retrofit at the Sevmash Shipyards in the next three to four years. The vessel has not been extensively serviced since it was launched in 1985, despite having been plagued with a slew of serious problems during the course of its lifetime.
    While on deployment in the Mediterranean in 2009, a short circuit aboard the vessel caused a fire that killed one crew member. A month after the incident, an attempt to refuel the vessel at sea caused a large oil spill off the coast of Ireland.
    Last year The Daily Beast reported that the U.S. Mediterranean Fleet trailed the Kuznetsov into the Mediterranean to lend a hand in case of an emergency, according to an unidentified U.S. Navy source. "The Kuznetsov might sink," the source said.
    The Kuznetsov is Russia's only aircraft carrier of its type to enter service. Its sister ship, the Varyag, was not completed before the collapse of the Soviet Union and was later sold to China for completion after rusting in a Ukrainian shipyard for nearly a decade. The Varyag entered service in the Chinese navy as "the Liaoning" in 2012, making it China's first aircraft carrier.
    An older Soviet-era Kiev-class aircraft-carrying cruiser was retrofitted by Sevmash for the Indian Navy and entered service last year as the Vikramaditya.
    Although the navy does not have any immediate plans to build any new aircraft carriers of its own, Russia is waiting on the delivery of two French-built Mistral-class amphibious assault carriers over the next two years.
    But amid the ongoing sanctions spat between Russia and the West, many NATO members are lobbying Paris to ax the deal, which would bolster Russian naval power.
    French President Francois Hollande said in September that France will only deliver the first vessel at the end of October if tensions in Ukraine subside.

    http://www.themoscowtimes.com/mobile/business/article/troubled-russian-aircraft-carrier-kuznetsov-returns-to-sea/508027.html
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    Re: Aircraft Carrier Admiral Kuznetsov: News

    Post  Big_Gazza on Tue Sep 30, 2014 4:04 pm

    Flyingdutchman wrote:Russia's only aircraft carrier, the Soviet-era flagship Admiral Kuznetsov, has returned to sea after going into port for maintenance at the Sevmash Shipyards near Arkhangelsk, Interfax reported Monday.
    The vessel, Russia's largest, is now heading out into the Barents Sea for post-repair sea trials, ensuring that the ship is in working order before resuming normal combat duties, Western Military District spokesperson Vadim Serga was quoted  by Interfax as saying.
    In Russian naval parlance, the Kuznetsov is not a proper aircraft carrier but rather a heavy aircraft-carrying cruiser, about half the size of a modern U.S. Nimitz-class aircraft carrier. But the Kuznetsov's cruiser capabilities mean that in addition to launching fighter planes, the warship can pummel enemy surface vessels with anti-ship guided missiles.
    A U.S. Nimitz-class super-carrier displaces more than 100,000 tons — the standard of measurement for ship sizes. The Kuznetsov, by comparison, displaces a mere 55,000 tons with a full load.
    In July, state news agency TASS reported that the Kuznetsov would undergo a massive retrofit at the Sevmash Shipyards in the next three to four years. The vessel has not been extensively serviced since it was launched in 1985, despite having been plagued with a slew of serious problems during the course of its lifetime.
    While on deployment in the Mediterranean in 2009, a short circuit aboard the vessel caused a fire that killed one crew member. A month after the incident, an attempt to refuel the vessel at sea caused a large oil spill off the coast of Ireland.
    Last year The Daily Beast reported that the U.S. Mediterranean Fleet trailed the Kuznetsov into the Mediterranean to lend a hand in case of an emergency, according to an unidentified U.S. Navy source. "The Kuznetsov might sink," the source said.
    The Kuznetsov is Russia's only aircraft carrier of its type to enter service. Its sister ship, the Varyag, was not completed before the collapse of the Soviet Union and was later sold to China for completion after rusting in a Ukrainian shipyard for nearly a decade. The Varyag entered service in the Chinese navy as "the Liaoning" in 2012, making it China's first aircraft carrier.
    An older Soviet-era Kiev-class aircraft-carrying cruiser was retrofitted by Sevmash for the Indian Navy and entered service last year as the Vikramaditya.
    Although the navy does not have any immediate plans to build any new aircraft carriers of its own, Russia is waiting on the delivery of two French-built Mistral-class amphibious assault carriers over the next two years.
    But amid the ongoing sanctions spat between Russia and the West, many NATO members are lobbying Paris to ax the deal, which would bolster Russian naval power.
    French President Francois Hollande said in September that France will only deliver the first vessel at the end of October if tensions in Ukraine subside.

    http://www.themoscowtimes.com/mobile/business/article/troubled-russian-aircraft-carrier-kuznetsov-returns-to-sea/508027.html

    A fire that killed a single crew member and an oil spill during refuelling ops are the best examples of "serious problems during the course of its lifetime"??? Thats simply pathetic. The author is desperate for something to criticise and that is the best he can come up with?

    The US navy trailed the Kuz so they could "lend a hand" if needed? Pfftt... what crap. I'd sooner believe Bibi Netanyahoo helping out in a Gaza working bee to repair the damaged homes of Hamas members...

    No wonder I never read the Moscow Times anymore. A foreign (Finnish) media group telling stupid porky pies about Russia....
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    Re: Aircraft Carrier Admiral Kuznetsov: News

    Post  GarryB on Wed Oct 01, 2014 7:25 am

    But don't they need to cut the K open to be able to place Nuclear powerplants?

    They will have to cut it open to rewire everything and change the pipes and other systems.

    A U.S. Nimitz-class super-carrier displaces more than 100,000 tons — the standard of measurement for ship sizes. The Kuznetsov, by comparison, displaces a mere 55,000 tons with a full load.

    They are different sizes because they have fundamentally different roles... the Nimitz carries a strike package of aircraft with supporting tankers and AWACS and fighter cover for attacking countries around the world. The Kuznetsov has fighter aircraft to defend the ships in the carrier group and large anti ship missiles to sink enemy ships in an enemy carrier battle group.

    Last year The Daily Beast reported that the U.S. Mediterranean Fleet trailed the Kuznetsov into the Mediterranean to lend a hand in case of an emergency, according to an unidentified U.S. Navy source. "The Kuznetsov might sink," the source said.

    Hahahahahahahaha... the US wouldn't lift a finger to help the Soviets when Chernobyl melted down and blocked Soviet access to robots being offered by US universities to help deal with the problem, but they will help to keep the Kuznetsov afloat in the med... what fricken heros... Rolling Eyes

    ... and what Big_Gazza said X2.


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    Re: Aircraft Carrier Admiral Kuznetsov: News

    Post  Werewolf on Wed Oct 01, 2014 8:12 am

    Big_Gazza wrote:
    Flyingdutchman wrote:Russia's only aircraft carrier, the Soviet-era flagship Admiral Kuznetsov, has returned to sea after going into port for maintenance at the Sevmash Shipyards near Arkhangelsk, Interfax reported Monday.
    The vessel, Russia's largest, is now heading out into the Barents Sea for post-repair sea trials, ensuring that the ship is in working order before resuming normal combat duties, Western Military District spokesperson Vadim Serga was quoted  by Interfax as saying.
    In Russian naval parlance, the Kuznetsov is not a proper aircraft carrier but rather a heavy aircraft-carrying cruiser, about half the size of a modern U.S. Nimitz-class aircraft carrier. But the Kuznetsov's cruiser capabilities mean that in addition to launching fighter planes, the warship can pummel enemy surface vessels with anti-ship guided missiles.
    A U.S. Nimitz-class super-carrier displaces more than 100,000 tons — the standard of measurement for ship sizes. The Kuznetsov, by comparison, displaces a mere 55,000 tons with a full load.
    In July, state news agency TASS reported that the Kuznetsov would undergo a massive retrofit at the Sevmash Shipyards in the next three to four years. The vessel has not been extensively serviced since it was launched in 1985, despite having been plagued with a slew of serious problems during the course of its lifetime.
    While on deployment in the Mediterranean in 2009, a short circuit aboard the vessel caused a fire that killed one crew member. A month after the incident, an attempt to refuel the vessel at sea caused a large oil spill off the coast of Ireland.
    Last year The Daily Beast reported that the U.S. Mediterranean Fleet trailed the Kuznetsov into the Mediterranean to lend a hand in case of an emergency, according to an unidentified U.S. Navy source. "The Kuznetsov might sink," the source said.
    The Kuznetsov is Russia's only aircraft carrier of its type to enter service. Its sister ship, the Varyag, was not completed before the collapse of the Soviet Union and was later sold to China for completion after rusting in a Ukrainian shipyard for nearly a decade. The Varyag entered service in the Chinese navy as "the Liaoning" in 2012, making it China's first aircraft carrier.
    An older Soviet-era Kiev-class aircraft-carrying cruiser was retrofitted by Sevmash for the Indian Navy and entered service last year as the Vikramaditya.
    Although the navy does not have any immediate plans to build any new aircraft carriers of its own, Russia is waiting on the delivery of two French-built Mistral-class amphibious assault carriers over the next two years.
    But amid the ongoing sanctions spat between Russia and the West, many NATO members are lobbying Paris to ax the deal, which would bolster Russian naval power.
    French President Francois Hollande said in September that France will only deliver the first vessel at the end of October if tensions in Ukraine subside.

    http://www.themoscowtimes.com/mobile/business/article/troubled-russian-aircraft-carrier-kuznetsov-returns-to-sea/508027.html

    A fire that killed a single crew member and an oil spill during refuelling ops are the best examples of "serious problems during the course of its lifetime"???  Thats simply pathetic.  The author is desperate for something to criticise and that is the best he can come up with?

    The US navy trailed the Kuz so they could "lend a hand" if needed?  Pfftt... what crap.  I'd sooner believe Bibi Netanyahoo helping out in a Gaza working bee to repair the damaged homes of Hamas members...

    No wonder I never read the Moscow Times anymore.  A foreign (Finnish) media group telling stupid porky pies about Russia....
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    Re: Aircraft Carrier Admiral Kuznetsov: News

    Post  zg18 on Wed Oct 01, 2014 8:37 am

    "Kuz" left for Barents sea for some training

    http://www.1tv.ru/news/social/268764
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    Post  Flyingdutchman on Thu Oct 02, 2014 7:41 am

    Still no Mig-29k's?

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    Re: Aircraft Carrier Admiral Kuznetsov: News

    Post  GarryB on Thu Oct 02, 2014 1:36 pm

    The Navy has them... they clearly want to train on them a bit before deploying them.

    I rather suspect they will keep using the Su-33 till they have enough MiG-29Ks to completely replace them.

    That way all the equipment to support the Su-33s can be removed and replaced with all the bits and pieces the MiG-29K needs to operate.

    It makes no sense to keep equipment for both aircraft on board.... just takes up space.


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    Re: Aircraft Carrier Admiral Kuznetsov: News

    Post  Flyingdutchman on Tue Oct 07, 2014 4:44 pm

    I've seen pictures of upgraded su-25's they looked pretty good!!

    Will the RU navy upgrade them aswell, or are they definetly out of ( carrier ) service?
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    Post  medo on Tue Oct 07, 2014 5:13 pm

    Flyingdutchman wrote:I've seen pictures of upgraded su-25's they looked pretty good!!

    Will the RU navy upgrade them aswell, or are they definetly out of ( carrier ) service?

    Su-33 is only single seater, that is why Ru NAVY need Su-25UTG for carrier operation trainings. MiG-29K have its own two seater MiG-29KUB for trainings and NAVY also buy Yak-130 trainers. Yakovlev have in plans carrier trainer version of Yak-130, but we do not know, what version NAVY buy. I hope Ru NAVY will be smart enough to buy additional squadron of 12 MiG-29KUB to place them in Eysk NITKA naval air base for year long constant trainings of navy carrier pilots and new pilots for carrier operations. With naval Su-30SM near, pilots could as well train air combat and naval operations.
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    Post  Flyingdutchman on Sun Mar 15, 2015 2:31 pm

    Any news about possible renovation?
    They should've started ages ago.
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    Post  runaway on Tue Mar 17, 2015 10:54 am

    Flyingdutchman wrote:Any news about possible renovation?
    They should've started ages ago.

    The yard is occupied with Ushakov and dock by Nakhimov.
    Other then that, the Navy apperently needs the carrier now and will not like to be without a carrier for the next 6-7 years. So perhaps they only make short time modifications and repair, any deep overhaul will have to wait.

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    Post  George1 on Thu May 14, 2015 2:12 pm

    Russia’s sole aircraft carrier goes under repairs

    The aircraft carrier performed its last long-distance voyage in May 2014, mostly sailing in the Mediterranean Sea

    MURMANSK, May 14. /TASS/. Russia’s sole aircraft carrier, The Admiral Kuznetsov, went into the dock of a shipyard in north Russia for repairs, the Northern Fleet’s press office reported on Thursday, giving no timeframe for the repairs.

    "The repair workers will first make the ship’s inspection in the dock, after which a decision will be made on the scope of the repairs," the fleet’s press office said, adding the repairs would be carried out by specialists of the 82nd shipyard at Roslyakovo in the Murmansk Region.

    The aircraft carrier performed its last long-distance voyage in May 2014, mostly sailing in the Mediterranean Sea.

    The Northern Fleet’s press office earlier reported that deck-based aircraft pilots had been on combat duty aboard the Admiral Kuznetsov responsible for air defense of a Russian Navy task force.

    The Admiral Kuznetsov aircraft carrier also took part in several naval drills, practising air fights.

    The Admiral Kuznetsov heavy aircraft-carrying missile cruiser is the sole vessel of this type in the Russian Navy.

    The Admiral Kuznetsov aircraft carrier was laid down at a Black Sea shipyard on September 1, 1982 and entered service on December 4, 1985.

    During its voyages, the ship carries Sukhoi Su-25UTG (NATO reporting name: Frogfoot-B) and Su-33 (Flanker-D) aircraft and Kamov Ka-27 and Ka-29 (Helix) helicopters.
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    Aircraft Carrier Admiral Kuznetsov

    Post  AirCargo on Wed May 27, 2015 5:42 am

    "Admiral Kuznetsov" Taking a Long Nap

    http://7fbtk.blogspot.fi/2015/05/admiral-kuznetsov-taking-long-nap.html
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    Re: Aircraft Carrier Admiral Kuznetsov: News

    Post  George1 on Wed May 27, 2015 12:23 pm

    AirCargo wrote:"Admiral Kuznetsov" Taking a Long Nap

    http://7fbtk.blogspot.fi/2015/05/admiral-kuznetsov-taking-long-nap.html

    Just repair work, not any serious modernization and the ship will be back in 2017...
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    Re: Aircraft Carrier Admiral Kuznetsov: News

    Post  Flyingdutchman on Tue Jun 02, 2015 11:32 am

    Is there a possibility that Admiral Kuznetsov Will be sold?
    I was thinking about Argentine?
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    Re: Aircraft Carrier Admiral Kuznetsov: News

    Post  Stealthflanker on Tue Jun 02, 2015 11:43 am

    Flyingdutchman wrote:
    I was thinking about Argentine?

    Not this country. Economically too weak for a carrier.
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    Re: Aircraft Carrier Admiral Kuznetsov: News

    Post  collegeboy16 on Tue Jun 02, 2015 4:07 pm

    Flyingdutchman wrote:Is there a possibility that Admiral Kuznetsov Will be sold?
    I was thinking about Argentine?
    hahahaha, hope the Russians have taste for lots of beef then. Razz
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    Re: Aircraft Carrier Admiral Kuznetsov: News

    Post  medo on Tue Jun 02, 2015 5:03 pm

    Flyingdutchman wrote:Is there a possibility that Admiral Kuznetsov Will be sold?
    I was thinking about Argentine?

    I think Kuznetsov will stay in RuNAVY until the new carrier will be build.

    Argentina could buy Spanish carrier Principe de Asturias or Italian Giuseppe Garibaldi, when it will be on sale. For carrier based planes they could opt for Russia to restart Yak-141 development and production.

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