We had several understandings.
The first prism of understanding is to follow the western view, uncommonly, US Dod's view, ie, the US minister of propaganda.
Noone among us, could doubt about the serious of Carlo Kopp, who expose its analysis here.
This is a very good work of a fair specialist who understand very well the situation, nevertheless, I have many objections.
His studies leads him to the following remarqs :
Hummm, surprising! You have professional soldiers, that were formed into soviet doctrin air defence, and knew very well all tactics. Furthermore, these professional iraqi soldiers were seasonned by 8 years war against Iran, and many of them participated in October 1973, and were well aware what a mobil system is. What does Carlo Kopp mean exactly ?
The Iraqis violated a fundamental principle of electronic combat by lighting up radars outside of actual engagements,....
As usual, -I don't mean that Carlo Kopp is rascist- in western view, the arabs are an under race, unfitt to fight, unfitt to discipline, in fact a group of animals. This is untill now, the western view, uncommly some elits that thougt like that.
How much blame for Iraq's defeat must be attributed to Iraqi stupidity at a senior and operational command level, incompetence at the cutting edge, and how much is due to fundamental flaws in Soviet air battle doctrine, may be difficult to determine.
Oviously, the US tactics, and their unbeatable, wonderfull technology triumph, with cleaver way.
With a model for the Iraqi IADS/C3, the USAF's analysts then approached the Checkmate high level operational planning group,...
This leads Carlo Kopp to this conclusion:
This from the academic views made by US DOD, and US departement of propaganda.
What this suggests is that the NATO-Warpac central European air battle would have probably followed a similar course, leading to the defeat of the Communists' IADS within a week or so, in turn leading to air superiority in the following week, as the Communist air forces would have withered under the fire of the Allied counter-air campaign...
Oviously, soviet technology, as soviet doctrim are old fashionned, hence could not match with western assets, and evidently, soviets will be easily defeated in case of wars.
The second prism is to ignore the propaganda, and to analyse only the facts.
Now let's examine what iraqi's air defence, and what's assets. No use to list all the long Carlo Kopp article, I invite you to read. Thus, some elements atracted me.
The main is this:
The heart of iraqi air defense is the frencheese Integrated air defence's technology called Kari.
With Kari gave the Iraq's air defence looks like this :
strategic air defence nodes :
The huge disadvantage with this kind of technology is related by this article :
The disadvantages are that if the centralized command and control centers or communications are disrupted (or destroyed) the system becomes paralyzed, because each individual group is dependent on the command center above it. Data and commands no longer flow from one end of the air defense network to the other. This was proven during the first Gulf War, when Coalition forces specifically targeted command nodes of the Iraqi KARI air defense system. Billions of dollars of good air defense equipment (mostly French C3I nodes and export-Soviet radars & SAMs) became far less effective, and in some cases paralyzed, allowing Coalition air power superiority already several hours into the war and throughout the conflict.
Well, in french context during the 80's, the parti socialiste won the election, and was in power, Kari system was sold by the right gouvernement. When he became president, François Mitterand, claimed itself as the "friend of Israel". Noone among us could doubt about the sincerity of Mr Mitterand towards Israel, neither the fact that the war against Iraq was in Israel's interests.
François Mitterand decided to engage french troops among nato, against Iraq, however the great threat is iraqi air defence, uncommonly....Kari. The Sams were under the control of Kari.
You could notice that this french help for Nato was disaprouved by Mr Chevenement, the frencheese defence minister. He was angered by the fact that France helped USA, hence he decided to resign .
Hey guys did you understand ? Do you think french adminstration could risk its pilots killed because of air defence, knowing that the masterpiece of this defence is ...Kari, then the french technology ?
I am not a specialist, however, I knew that Iraq was weak state, i could not say you that most of Shia or kurds turned against Saddam's regime, Iam not iraqi, moreover, I don't know enough Iraq to assert that Shias were all against Saddam, Kurds were all against Saddam. Nevertheless some facts could help us to understand the situation.
The bastards of Talabani, and Barzani are two bullshits who are well known helped by israelis, and well known for betrayed their country, and many puk, and kdp rats were ready to help nato in order to destroy Iraq.
Secundly after the cease fire in 1991 there were many riots in south of iraq, from mostly Shias. To say you most shias, I could not assert it, if iraqi friends are here, and could help us many thx.
Well let's summarize, the all iraqi air defence is under the rules of Kari, that is in fact a nato technology. If you neutralize Kari, you neutralize all the air defence, hence Sa-2, Sa-3, Sa-6, Sa-8 etc...are useless, because completly blinded, as their radars were all destroyed. France turned against Iraq, it triggered Mr Chevenement 's resign.
Moreover a certain part of iraq's population was against Iraqi regime.
- Kari was disabled and turned against Iraq by the foreign help, betraying all iraqi radars that were easy targets for nato's aircrafts.
- The radars that could escape, were immediatly identified from the earth -because you could hide a smartphone, a laptop, however, how could you hide a sam battery, or a radar, if the neighborhood was full of personnes working for US -, and nato pilots could easily located and destroy all iraqi assets. Obviously, all this will be in the incredible credit of US technlogy.
The soviets or russian hardwares are still relevant nowadays, and a sam 2 or sam 3 could easily downed any US aircrafts, or fighters bombers -whatever it is as F-15, F-18, F-22, B2b, B1b etc...- if they used correctly. The US air campaign against Serbia prove that american figthers bombers are far to be effective.
Each time when looked US air war in scrutiny, we discover that if we remove the propaganda the results are far to be shinning. Desert Storm represents the epic the top of US air war, this was their last chance, after Desert Storm, it is the decline, and air war in Serbia, proved that in military area if a small country is decided to resist, the US could do nothing.
If some of you have more knowledges please feel free to correct me, and bring us what you know. Thx for all.