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    Re: Moldova and Transnistria Situation Thread

    Post  max steel on Wed May 06, 2015 4:48 pm

    nope they don't . Moldova isn't Russia's headache .



    A HUGE amount of EU money went into PR to join up with the EU in Moldova. For example, FRI reported that Radio stations in Moldova were paid 60K per annum if they would run pro-homosexual editorial content for the EU. If they'll spend that much on social engineering, they'll be spending money across the board to buy the media, entrepreneurs, govt official etc. Exactly like the Ukraine.

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    Re: Moldova and Transnistria Situation Thread

    Post  flamming_python on Wed May 06, 2015 5:11 pm

    max steel wrote:nope they don't . Moldova isn't Russia's headache .

    A HUGE amount of EU money went into PR to join up with the EU in Moldova. For example, FRI reported that Radio stations in Moldova were paid 60K per annum if they would run pro-homosexual editorial content for the EU. If they'll spend that much on social engineering, they'll be spending money across the board to buy the media, entrepreneurs, govt official etc. Exactly like the Ukraine.

    I would love it if Moldova and the Ukraine join the EU and bankrupt them. Those two places are money sinks, big time.

    Anyhow, it's important to keep Moldova onside, or at least neutral, in order to prevent Transdniestr's suffocation. Now that the Ukrainians have turned against them, their only hope is at least indifference from the Moldovan leadership; if the Moldovans continue a blockade than the situation there could get critical.

    Moldova, if it ever reunites with Trasndniestr, attains some predictability in its politics, starts growing economically - could well be a good catch for the Eurasian Economic Union. I think that's the way forward. But ultimately it's up to them.

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    Re: Moldova and Transnistria Situation Thread

    Post  par far on Wed May 06, 2015 5:18 pm

    max steel wrote:nope they don't . Moldova isn't Russia's headache .



    A HUGE amount of EU money went into PR to join up with the EU in Moldova. For example, FRI reported that Radio stations in Moldova were paid 60K per annum if they would run pro-homosexual editorial content for the EU. If they'll spend that much on social engineering, they'll be spending money across the board to buy the media, entrepreneurs, govt official etc. Exactly like the Ukraine.


    Totally Off Topic Why is the EU and US so much high on homosexual? It is so disgusting.

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    Re: Moldova and Transnistria Situation Thread

    Post  whir on Wed May 06, 2015 7:13 pm

    par far wrote:Why is the EU and US so much high on homosexual? It is so disgusting.
    It's not disgusting is just politics, accusing someone of discrimination is easiest way to have moral high ground.

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    Re: Moldova and Transnistria Situation Thread

    Post  Akula971 on Wed May 06, 2015 7:18 pm

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    max steel wrote:nope they don't . Moldova isn't Russia's headache .
    Totally Off Topic Why is the EU and US so much high on homosexual? It is so disgusting.

    Because they have the GAY condition.


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    Re: Moldova and Transnistria Situation Thread

    Post  George1 on Thu May 21, 2015 2:44 pm

    Ukraine denounces agreement on military transit to Moldova with Russia

    The agreement was signed in 1995

    KIEV, May 21. /TASS/. Ukraine has broken its agreement with Russia on military transit to Moldova. A total of 265 deputies of the Ukrainian Verkhovna Rada (parliament) with the minimum required 226 MPs voted on Thursday for the law on denunciation of the intergovernmental Ukrainian-Russian agreement on the transit of Russian military, temporarily stationed in Moldova, through Ukrainian territory.

    The document, proposed by non-affiliated deputy Mikhail Golovko, is designed "to eliminate the existing legal prerequisites for moving military forces of the Russian Federation, deployed in the territory of Moldova, in transit through the territory of Ukraine."

    The agreement between the Governments of the Russian Federation and Ukraine on the transit of Russian military units temporarily stationed in the territory of Moldova through Ukrainian territory was signed in 1995.

    Russian peacekeepers in Moldova


    Joint peacekeeping forces of Russia, Moldova and Transdniestria, as well as a group of military observers from Ukraine are now maintaining peace on the two banks of the Dniester River. No violence outbreaks have been recorded in the region during their presence, which allowed Chisinau and Tiraspol to negotiate peaceful settlement of disputes.

    Moldova says the conflict is over and calls for changing the existing peacekeeping format by deploying an international mission of OSCE observers. Transdniestria says Russia’s military presence in the unrecognized republic guarantees its security.

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    Moldova Eyes Russia’s Embrace as Flirtation With Europe Fades

    Post  whir on Thu May 21, 2015 8:33 pm

    The New York Times wrote:Moldova Eyes Russia’s Embrace as Flirtation With Europe Fades
    By ANDREW HIGGINSMAY 21, 2015

    CHISINAU, Moldova — Daniela Morari, a Foreign Ministry official who has been traveling her country trying to nudge Moldovans toward the European Union, has heard it all. People are worried that “if you join the E.U. everyone becomes gay” and that Brussels bureaucrats “won’t let you keep animals around your houses,” an alarming prospect in a largely rural country.

    It does not help that such views are encouraged on Russian television, by burgeoning pro-Russian political parties in Moldova, and by a deeply conservative Orthodox Church obedient to Moscow’s ecclesiastical hierarchy. “We go to a place for an hour or so and then we leave and they all go back to watching Russian television,” Ms. Morari said.

    Russian propaganda aside, however, Moldovans say they have more than enough reasons — not least widespread corruption here, the shadowy power of business moguls, and the war in Ukraine — to look askance at the European Union, which Ms. Morari fears is losing out to Russia in the struggle for hearts and minds in this former Soviet land. Continue reading.

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    Re: Moldova and Transnistria Situation Thread

    Post  George1 on Sat May 23, 2015 12:07 am

    Moldova Seeks to Ban All Russian TV News and Analysis Programs

    Read more: http://sputniknews.com/europe/20150522/1022470107.html#ixzz3auKgAqXb

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    Re: Moldova and Transnistria Situation Thread

    Post  flamming_python on Sat May 23, 2015 1:58 am

    Embattled Prime Minister Chiril Gaburici announced that his effort to fight corruption would include inviting disgraced former Georgian president Mikhail Saakashvili to head a local anti-corruption commission

    Read more: http://sputniknews.com/europe/20150522/1022470107.html#ixzz3aun8JZDm

    Hahahaha

    These Maidan types just never learn do they.
    They're their own worst enemies.

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    Re: Moldova and Transnistria Situation Thread

    Post  Neutrality on Sat May 23, 2015 2:11 am

    Everything that's happening right now points to a war against the Russian culture, not just simply Putin and the Kremlin.

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    Re: Moldova and Transnistria Situation Thread

    Post  Cyberspec on Sat May 23, 2015 2:42 am

    Sakashvili as a advisor?....must be something to do with his 'success' in Ukraine Very Happy Add to the mix, open censorship and propaganda and you almost have a mini Ukraine. All that's missing is a war against Transnistria which I'm sure they're probably contemplating if they think they can get away with it








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    Re: Moldova and Transnistria Situation Thread

    Post  flamming_python on Sat May 23, 2015 1:10 pm

    Cyberspec wrote:Sakashvili as a advisor?....must be something to do with his 'success' in Ukraine Very Happy  Add to the mix, open censorship and propaganda and you almost have a mini Ukraine. All that's missing is a war against Transnistria which I'm sure they're probably contemplating if they think they can get away with it

    Moldova's ruling coalition was re-elected not long ago; end of November last year.

    Shortly before the recent elections; they laid the legal framework for banning any political party that advocated Customs Union membership (!)
    No doubt, something like this can be used in the future, in the threat of a pro-Russian win.

    http://tass.ru/en/world/754612
    Leader of the Moldovan Socialist Party Igor Dodon revealed the information to TASS on Wednesday as he commented on Wednesday’s ruling of the Constitution Court, which declares any political course different from “European integration” to be unconstitutional.

    Then, in the last week before the elections they used their power to ban one of the 3 opposition parties to them (a pro-Russian one); an unprecedented violation of democratic norms were it to be done on the eve of an election campaign in any other country.
    But of course the EU was silent; albeit the US embassy did voice some concern but ultimately nothing was made of it and certainly very little found itself into the Western media.

    http://www.janes.com/article/46366/moldovan-parliamentary-poll-likely-to-cause-prolonged-period-of-social-unrest-and-political-uncertainty
    In a last-minute twist, on 26 November the CEC announced that it had requested the cancellation of the Motherland Party (Partidul Politic Patria: PPP) registration, due to its alleged use of funds received from abroad for election campaigning. The PPP's first candidate, Russian-Moldovan businessman Renato Usatii, denied the allegations and accused the government of trying to eliminate him from the race. Two of Usatii's previous parties were denied registration by the Ministry of Justice earlier in 2014. If the PPP is not allowed to run, its supporters are likely to vote for other pro-Russian parties instead.

    The leader of the PPP, Renato Usattii, left the country for Russia under feat of arrest.
    Note that this Usattii does seem like the slippery type and has a history of making outrageous claims - so all this with a grain of salt I might add:

    http://www.foxnews.com/world/2014/11/28/pro-russian-candidate-flees-moldova-before-vote-highlighting-country-east-west/
    The candidate, Renato Usatii, a Rolls Royce-driving businessman who works for Russian Railways, said he feared arrest by Moldova's pro-European authorities.
    http://www.thetimes.co.uk/tto/news/world/europe/article4281951.ece
    A contender for the leadership of Moldova fled to Moscow early yesterday morning, pursued by allegations that he was a front for Russian secret services and criminal gangs.

    In Russia, he called for the spoiling of ballots among his supporters, which many complied with, thus spoiling many votes that could have gone to the other 2 pro-Russian parties.

    http://www.regnum.ru/news/polit/1873531.html
    «Я призываю всех сторонников политической партии Patria, так как мы есть в бюллетене, и нас невозможно уже из него исключить, так как выборы завтра, все-таки голосовать за политическую партию Patria, тем самым мы покажем, сколько нас. Они признают недействительными 15-20% бюллетеней, таким образом, мы посмотрим, какой у нас сегодня есть электорат», — заявил Усатый в субботу, 29 ноября, в ходе пресс-конференции в пресс-центре РИА «Новости». И послушный электорат принялся массово портить бюллетени (по промежуточным данным ЦИК Молдавии, недействительными были признаны около 4,5% бюллетеней — прим. ИА REGNUM), которые могли пойти в итоговую копилку социалистов или коммунистов, обеспечив левым недостающие для создания парламентского большинства голоса.

    On election day, they spent all their energy on setting up election stations in EU countries for Moldovan citizens (where everything proceeded very smoothly), and not nearly enough for Moldovan citizens in Russia; where huge queues formed before Moldovan consulates and election points.

    Moscow:



    St. Petersburg:
    http://www.politnavigator.net/vybory-v-moldove-prozapadnye-partii-proigryvayut-nesmotrya-na-adminresurs.html

    Nice work, crooks!

    There was a severe shortage of ballot papers in these locations (a total of 15,000 across 5 election stations - for the 600,000 - 700,000 Moldovan citizens in Russia) and unlike in 2010 in Paris when people were give out sheets of paper to record votes when a similar situation occured - nothing was provided for the voters in Moscow:

    http://www.regnum.ru/news/polit/1873531.html
    Нечто подобное происходило в воскресенье, 30 ноября, и на избирательных участках в Москве и Санкт-Петербурге, где наблюдались огромные очереди желающих проголосовать молдавских граждан. Для того чтобы обеспечить порядок на одном из них, пришлось вызвать спецназ. Однако исполнить свой гражданский долг удалось далеко не всем. На каждый из пяти избирательных участков, открытых в России, Центризбирком направил только по 3 тыс. бюллетеней: всего 15 тыс. на 600-700 тыс. работающих в РФ граждан Молдавии. Уже через пару часов голосования бюллетени закончились. А отправлять дополнительные ЦИК отказался, заявив, что это противоречит Кодексу о выборах.

    Помнится, на парламентских выборах 2010 года, когда выяснилось, что в Париже, Падуе и Болонье закончились бюллетени, но еще есть желающие принять участие в голосовании, Центризбирком принял решение выдавать голосующим обычные листы бумаги формата А-4 с печатью избирательного участка, продолжает Noi. Для таких бюллетеней была предусмотрена специальная урна (впоследствии эти «бюллетени», по решению того же ЦИКа, не были засчитаны при подсчете голосов — прим. ИА REGNUM). Но действовать по такому сценарию и на этот раз власти отказались. Причина очевидна: Москва — не Падуя и не Париж, молдавские гастарбайтеры в России отдают предпочтение партиям левого толка.

    The pro-European crooks used every trick in the book to get in power.

    Just as well though; whereas pro-West and pro-Russian voting and sentiment was roughly equal before the election; it's now balanced decisively towards Russia - the crooks in power have succeeded only in discrediting themselves.

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    Re: Moldova and Transnistria Situation Thread

    Post  whir on Sat May 23, 2015 1:33 pm

    Although a bit late instead of a new topic:

    Vox Populi Evo wrote:Moldova, Kishinev. Victory Day March 2015

    Dosie via Google Translate wrote:Запад в шоке: в Кишинёве, в марше под красными знамёнами Победы приняли участие 65 тысяч человек
    West shocked: in Chisinau, in the march under the red banners of Victory was attended by 65 thousand people
    05/15/10



    In Chisinau, capital of Moldova, which is illegitimate president of Ukraine Petro Poroshenko named one of his main allies of the junta on May 9 held 65,000th march under the banner of Victory, as well as the flags of St. George ribbons of color.

    This "PolitNavigatoru" said participant of the action political commentator Vladimir Bukarsky.

    "March without party symbols have held for the first time. This signal is primarily for the Moldovan authorities - we the people will never allow such an abuse of history, both in Ukraine ", - said the source. Continue reading.

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    Re: Moldova and Transnistria Situation Thread

    Post  Regular on Sat May 23, 2015 1:35 pm

    Neutrality wrote:Everything that's happening right now points to a war against the Russian culture, not just simply Putin and the Kremlin.
    Russian culture? Care to explain what it is Russian culture?

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    Re: Moldova and Transnistria Situation Thread

    Post  magnumcromagnon on Sat May 23, 2015 1:46 pm

    Regular wrote:
    Neutrality wrote:Everything that's happening right now points to a war against the Russian culture, not just simply Putin and the Kremlin.
    Russian culture? Care to explain what it is Russian culture?

    I posted a .PDF file a month ago in the Ukraine Situation thread, it was a e-book that was over 250 pages, it documented how the Russophobia stemming in Eastern Europe (that's supported by the west) is purely anti-Russian, it talked about how Bandera opposed any and all things Russian, it didn't matter if it was the Russian Empire, or the USSR.

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    Re: Moldova and Transnistria Situation Thread

    Post  Regular on Sat May 23, 2015 2:03 pm

    I'll check, thanks.
    My understanding is that after USSR collapsed many countries tried to distance themselves from Russian influence by any means. Everything Russian was bad, european was good and progressive and etc. It was much more like this in Ukraine where hatred for Russians were thought in primary schools and self identity was build around it.

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    Re: Moldova and Transnistria Situation Thread

    Post  George1 on Sun May 24, 2015 5:16 am

    Kiev's Blockade of Transnistria a Threat to Regional Security – FM

    Kiev's decision to scrap its military cooperation agreements with Russia, including transit rights for Russian peacekeepers and equipment to Transnistria, have created the potential to destabilize regional security, says Transnistrian Foreign Minister Nina Shtanski.

    Speaking to First Transnistria TV, Shtanski noted that the Ukrainian parliament's decision to effectively block Russian peacekeepers from entering Transnistria is eroding Kiev's status as one of the guarantors of the Transnistrian peace process.

    On Thursday, Ukraine's parliament annulled a series of agreements with Russia on military cooperation, mutual security, and cooperation in military reconnaissance and military logistics, including a 1995 agreement on the transit of Russian peacekeepers through Ukrainian territory to the Moldovan breakaway republic of Transnistria.

    "Ukraine's decision is very difficult to explain using logic, based on the fact that Ukraine is one of the countries serving as a guarantor of the Transnistrian settlement, and, moreover, participates in the peacekeeping operation by providing military observers," Shtanski noted.

    "At present we are asking ourselves whether Ukraine will remain one of the guarantors of peace, and whether it will remain an intermediary, because what is happening right now is pushing us to conclude that Ukraine is turning into a participant in the conflict, and this is a serious problem for regional security, for the negotiations process, and for dialogue as a whole," Shtanski added.

    Commenting on Kiev's actions, Transnistria President Evgeniy Shevchuk noted that he was concerned that the decision would threaten to effectively end the peacekeeping operation, being "carried out jointly by contingents from the conflicting parties –Moldova and Transnistria, as well as a Russian contingent with the participation of Ukrainian military observers." Shevchuk emphasized that the enduringly successful peacekeeping operation is the sole "effective basis for peace and security in the conflict area today," adding that the destruction of the defense mechanisms could lead to the "destabilization of the situation."

    "The purpose of these actions is clear, in my opinion. They are aimed at creating conditions for the expulsion of peacekeepers from [Transnistria] based on statements periodically emanating from Moldovan officials about the need to change the format of the peacekeeping operation," Shevchuk noted. He added that his government assesses Kiev's decision as an attempt "to put pressure not so much on Transnistria as on Russia, given that there are about 200,000 Russian citizens living in the area."

    The Moldovan government supported the Ukrainian parliament's decision, and joined with Kiev in trying to prevent the supply of Russian peacekeepers from the Moldovan side of the border. On May 22, Moldovan media reported that authorities have detained and deported a Russian officer heading for the peacekeeping zone, following a similar scenario last week, when two more Russian servicemen were deported. The Russian contingent is believed to be gradually shrinking as officers complete their tour of duty and return home.

    The Russian Ministry of Defense has yet to respond to Kiev's decision, including how it will affect the peacekeeping operation in Transnistria. However, speaking to Russia's Zvezda TV on Friday, Russian Defense Ministry Coordinator of the Office of the Inspector General Yuri Yakubov speculated that the blockaded territory may be relieved via an air bridge set up by military transport aviation.

    Transnistria attempted to break off from Moldova amid the breakup of the USSR, while Moldova itself was declaring its independence from Moscow. The Moldovan-Transnistrian conflict has been frozen since 1992, after a failed attempt by Chisinau to solve the problem through military force, turning Transnistria into a de-facto independent state, although it formally remains unrecognized by any UN member states.

    Read more: http://sputniknews.com/military/20150523/1022490789.html#ixzz3b1QmBTPI

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    Re: Moldova and Transnistria Situation Thread

    Post  George1 on Sun May 24, 2015 5:22 am

    From military point of view how Russia can defend Transnistria if it is needed??

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    Post  Cyberspec on Sun May 24, 2015 7:21 am

    If it's just the Moldovans vs Transnistria I think they can manage just with aerial resupply....if it involves Ukraine (and/or others - Romania for eg) it would escalate into a large scale regional war....would probably mean the end of Ukraine as we know it

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    Post  Flagship Victory on Sun May 24, 2015 11:09 pm

    George1 wrote:From military point of view how Russia can defend Transnistria if it is needed??

    Russian air force jets based in Sevastopol can launch air strikes on Moldova if needed. Distance is only about 500 to 800 km.

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    Post  Karl Haushofer on Sun May 24, 2015 11:37 pm

    Flagship Victory wrote:
    George1 wrote:From military point of view how Russia can defend Transnistria if it is needed??

    Russian air force jets based in Sevastopol can launch air strikes on Moldova if needed. Distance is only about 500 to 800 km.
    Knowing the extreme caution of Putin's foreign policy how likely is to happen?

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    Post  Russian Patriot on Sun May 24, 2015 11:41 pm

    Karl Haushofer wrote:
    Flagship Victory wrote:
    George1 wrote:From military point of view how Russia can defend Transnistria if it is needed??

    Russian air force jets based in Sevastopol can launch air strikes on Moldova if needed. Distance is only about 500 to 800 km.
    Knowing the extreme caution of Putin's foreign policy how likely is to happen?

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    Re: Moldova and Transnistria Situation Thread

    Post  Khepesh on Mon May 25, 2015 9:00 pm

    Possibility that a move may be made on Transnistria to see what reaction from Russia, and if weak, then the operation against Novorossiya will be launched. The S-300 battery seen in the recent video had been moved a little along the coast east of Odessa, possibly to give an earlier shoot down ability on any Russian air assistance from Sevastopol. Reports from Odessa locals today of ukrops helicopter movements.

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    Re: Moldova and Transnistria Situation Thread

    Post  Cyberspec on Tue May 26, 2015 1:22 pm

    I don't see Russian "weakness" - that's just delusional gibberish and self righteous BS from the Strelkov fan club.

    ....

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    "For a quarter century, the country has accumulated invaluable experience of survival in harsh conditions. Yes, we lost part of the territory and assets, but at the same time got rid of the need to subsidize socialist countries, most of the former Soviet republics and to maintain a monstrous war machine.

    While keeping the country, control over natural resources and high defense capabilities. We got rid of the ideological blinders and illusions — both towards adversaries and towards partners. And this new awareness of ourselves and the surrounding world — is the most important result of last year.

    And recent public opinion polls conducted under sanctions, increased prices and increasing uncertainty, only confirmed the willingness of the majority of the elite and society to fight for the interests of the country, even if they have to sacrifice a part of their own wealth. Believe me, this means a lot.

    Therefore my assessment is optimistic: never before has Russia been so focused and had such a strong position before global challenges.

    Sergey Karaganov is a Russian political scientist who heads the Council for Foreign and Defense Policy, a security analytical institution founded by Vitaly Shlykov.

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    Re: Moldova and Transnistria Situation Thread

    Post  sepheronx on Sat Jun 06, 2015 10:38 am

    http://fortruss.blogspot.ca/2015/06/poroshenko-promises-to-do-all-in-his.html

    Go at it.

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