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    Re: Project 21631: Buyan-M corvette

    Post  Viktor on Sun Aug 16, 2015 5:17 pm

    Demagnetization of Green Dol


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    Re: Project 21631: Buyan-M corvette

    Post  PapaDragon on Fri Aug 21, 2015 3:51 pm


    Is Buyan-M class capable of operating in Mediterranean sea?

    Do you think Sarsar class will be able to?

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    Re: Project 21631: Buyan-M corvette

    Post  PapaDragon on Wed Sep 02, 2015 4:36 pm


    Serpuhov and Zeleni Dol in Novorosiysk.





    http://www.sdelanounas.ru/blogs/67076/

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    Re: Project 21631: Buyan-M corvette

    Post  Militarov on Thu Sep 03, 2015 7:12 am

    PapaDragon wrote:
    Is Buyan-M class capable of operating in Mediterranean sea?

    Do you think Sarsar class will be able to?

    No reason not to be, just bring him supply ship.

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    Re: Project 21631: Buyan-M corvette

    Post  ult on Sun Sep 13, 2015 3:20 am

    The Black Sea Fleet.


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    Re: Project 21631: Buyan-M corvette

    Post  TheArmenian on Sun Sep 13, 2015 9:12 am

    In ult's post we see the Zeleony Dol and Serpukhov (4th and 5th units of the class).
    In the photo below is the 1st unit, the Grad Svyazsk


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    Re: Project 21631: Buyan-M corvette

    Post  PapaDragon on Sun Sep 13, 2015 1:57 pm

    TheArmenian wrote:In ult's post we see the Zeleony Dol and Serpukhov (4th and 5th units of the class).
    In the photo below is the 1st unit, the Grad Svyazsk


    Great pic +1 thumbsup

    I like these ships, half the size with more offensive firepower than Steregushchy class corvettes.

    But for some reason I can't shake the feeling that space on rear half of these ships could be arranged more efficiently... scratch

    Anyway, with 4 more Buyans and 6 Grigorovich class frigates in the coming years, Black Sea fleet will be looking pretty good.

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    Re: Project 21631: Buyan-M corvette

    Post  George1 on Thu Sep 17, 2015 1:01 am

    Two Missile Corvettes to Join Russian Black Sea Fleet by Year-End

    Two of the planned six Buyan-M missile corvettes will join the Russian Black Sea Fleet by the end of 2015, a spokesman for the Russian Navy said Wednesday.

    MOSCOW (Sputnik) — The two Buyan-M corvettes have been completed and are undergoing sea trials at the southern Russian naval base at Novorossiysk, on the Black Sea in the Krasnodar Region. Russian Navy’s Commander-in-Chief Adm. Viktor Chirkov inspected the base earlier today and reviewed the results of trials.

    "The Novorossiysk naval base is currently testing these two ships, which will join the Black Sea Fleet by the end of the year. Around four more ships of the same project will be built for the Black Sea Fleet, and all of them will undergo sea trials here," Igor Drygalo said.

    The Black Sea Fleet is stationed in the Krasnodar Region and the neighboring Crimea Peninsula, and operates in the Black and the Mediterranean seas.

    Russia is currently conducting a $325-billion rearmament program to modernize 70-percent of its military by 2020.

    Read more: http://sputniknews.com/military/20150916/1027096043.html#ixzz3lwfwRsJh


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    Re: Project 21631: Buyan-M corvette

    Post  max steel on Fri Sep 18, 2015 11:29 pm

    Russian Navy Corvettes Fire Cruise Missiles in Caspian Sea
    The Grad Sviyazhsk and the Veliky Ustyug Buyan-M class missile corvettes have carried out successful strikes at surface targets in the Caspian Sea, the Russian Navy chief of combat training said Friday.
    The area was secured by some 15 warships and support vessels making a sea passage from home stations in Russia's southern Republic of Dagestan and the Astrakhan Region.
    The Center-2015 strategic exercises, running September 14-20, involve around 95,000 troops and some 7,000 pieces of military equipment. As many as 20 warships are expected to participate in the exercises.
    "As part of the active stage of the command-and-staff strategic exercise Center-2015, the Caspian flotilla's tactical group comprising the Grad Sviyazhsk and the Veliky Ustyug missile corvettes successfully practiced a joint missile firing from shipborne missile systems at sea targets in the designated area of the Caspian Sea," Rear Adm. Viktor Kochemazov said.

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    Re: Project 21631: Buyan-M corvette

    Post  ult on Wed Oct 07, 2015 3:26 pm

    Congrats to the Caspian Flotilla.


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    Re: Project 21631: Buyan-M corvette

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    Re: Project 21631: Buyan-M corvette

    Post  magnumcromagnon on Wed Oct 07, 2015 9:55 pm

    TheArmenian wrote:

    It was really nice seeing them in action. It took everyone by surprise! Shocked

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    Re: Project 21631: Buyan-M corvette

    Post  medo on Wed Oct 07, 2015 10:17 pm

    I hope Russian NAVY will order 9 more Buyan-M ships, additional 3 for Caspian fleet and 6 for Baltic fleet, which also need ships, that could carry Kalibr cruise missiles. They will bring more fear to Baltic than Steregushy corvettes.

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    Re: Project 21631: Buyan-M corvette

    Post  PapaDragon on Wed Oct 07, 2015 10:25 pm

    medo wrote:I hope Russian NAVY will order 9 more Buyan-M ships, additional 3 for Caspian fleet and 6 for Baltic fleet, which also need ships, that could carry Kalibr cruise missiles. They will bring more fear to Baltic than Steregushy corvettes.

    Isn't Buyan-M supposed to be replaced with Sarsar (Buyan-M 2.0)?

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    Re: Project 21631: Buyan-M corvette

    Post  Big_Gazza on Thu Oct 08, 2015 11:35 am

    magnumcromagnon wrote:
    TheArmenian wrote:

    It was really nice seeing them in action. It took everyone by surprise! Shocked

    Yeeeaahhh.... look at them go. russia

    I just hope they catch the CIA handlers napping and blow them to ragged shreds along with those filthy takfiri bastards.... Twisted Evil Twisted Evil Twisted Evil Twisted Evil

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    Re: Project 21631: Buyan-M corvette

    Post  ult on Thu Oct 08, 2015 12:06 pm

    I think Zelenodolsk will switch to 22160 after they complete the current order. And then there is also 22800. So I think there will 9 Buyan-M and that's it.

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    Re: Project 21631: Buyan-M corvette

    Post  medo on Thu Oct 08, 2015 4:18 pm

    I think 22160 is a different class of patrol ship. Buyan-M is an excellent replacement for Nanushka type of missile corvettes. They should at least order 3 more for Caspian sea. 22800 seems to be more sea worthy ship, so better suited for Northern and Pacific fleet. Baltic fleet could use both. Point is, that Buyan-M is well tested and could be available sooner than totally new class 22800 and Baltic fleet also need ships with Caliber missiles and their Steregushy corvettes don't have them. I think Russian NAVY could easily buy 18 of both classes, there is enough room for them and enough ships to replace.

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    Re: Project 21631: Buyan-M corvette

    Post  Cucumber Khan on Thu Oct 08, 2015 6:59 pm

    medo wrote:I hope Russian NAVY will order 9 more Buyan-M ships, additional 3 for Caspian fleet and 6 for Baltic fleet, which also need ships, that could carry Kalibr cruise missiles. They will bring more fear to Baltic than Steregushy corvettes.

    Well, the 21631 has no SAMs and no ASW capability, so they are really limited ships. Useful for sure, but can't really replace the 20380. To bad there won't be more 20385s...

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    Re: Project 21631: Buyan-M corvette

    Post  sepheronx on Thu Oct 08, 2015 7:11 pm

    They cancelled the 85 specifically for the engines but chances are same equipment for the 80 using the Russian engines.

    Buyan M has indeed very limited sam capability. Hopefully there will be pantsir model or a different sam system more advanced than Igla launchers.

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    Re: Project 21631: Buyan-M corvette

    Post  medo on Thu Oct 08, 2015 7:19 pm

    Cucumber Khan wrote:
    medo wrote:I hope Russian NAVY will order 9 more Buyan-M ships, additional 3 for Caspian fleet and 6 for Baltic fleet, which also need ships, that could carry Kalibr cruise missiles. They will bring more fear to Baltic than Steregushy corvettes.

    Well, the 21631 has no SAMs and no ASW capability, so they are really limited ships. Useful for sure, but can't really replace the 20380. To bad there won't be more 20385s...

    Who say Buyan-M will replace Steregushy corvettes? They are different ships for different tasks. Buyan-M is sea-river class with powerful cruise missiles. Steregushy corvettes will deal with ships and subs, while Buyans will more support ground operation and provide coast defense with long range anti-ship missiles.

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    Post  chicken on Sat Oct 10, 2015 7:57 am

    sepheronx wrote:They cancelled the 85 specifically for the engines but chances are same equipment for the 80 using the Russian engines.

    Buyan M has indeed very limited sam capability. Hopefully there will be pantsir model or a different sam system more advanced than Igla launchers.

    I thought they were made to operate under land based SAM umbrella?

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    Re: Project 21631: Buyan-M corvette

    Post  sepheronx on Sat Oct 10, 2015 9:23 am

    chicken wrote:
    sepheronx wrote:They cancelled the 85 specifically for the engines but chances are same equipment for the 80 using the Russian engines.

    Buyan M has indeed very limited sam capability. Hopefully there will be pantsir model or a different sam system more advanced than Igla launchers.

    I thought they were made to operate under land based SAM umbrella?

    Dunno. All I know is that they have Gibka onboard. I think if they were able to have something that could use the 57E6 missiles like Naval Pantsir would be ideal too. Would give it a very effective air defense capabilities.

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    Re: Project 21631: Buyan-M corvette

    Post  GarryB on Sat Oct 10, 2015 10:58 am

    With Pantsir-SM it is not just an excellent point defence system like TOR, it would also have decent reach to 40-45km or so which is better than early models of SA-N-7 on Sovremmeny class destroyers...


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    Re: Project 21631: Buyan-M corvette

    Post  TheArmenian on Sat Oct 10, 2015 5:20 pm

    sepheronx wrote:They cancelled the 85 specifically for the engines but chances are same equipment for the 80 using the Russian engines.

    Buyan M has indeed very limited sam capability. Hopefully there will be pantsir model or a different sam system more advanced than Igla launchers.

    Both 85s will have Russian engines. The canceling of further ships was due to the excessive cost of this variant, it ended up costing almost as a Gorshkov frigate.

    The Buyans used MTU German diesels. But they are being substituted by Kolomna built ones.

    The only classes of vessels affected by politics are the ones on the Gorshkov and Grigorovich class frigates.

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    Re: Project 21631: Buyan-M corvette

    Post  sepheronx on Sat Oct 10, 2015 6:56 pm

    TheArmenian wrote:
    sepheronx wrote:They cancelled the 85 specifically for the engines but chances are same equipment for the 80 using the Russian engines.

    Buyan M has indeed very limited sam capability. Hopefully there will be pantsir model or a different sam system more advanced than Igla launchers.

    Both 85s will have Russian engines. The canceling of further ships was due to the excessive cost of this variant, it ended up costing almost as a Gorshkov frigate.

    The Buyans used MTU German diesels. But they are being substituted by Kolomna built ones.

    The only classes of vessels affected by politics are the ones on the Gorshkov and Grigorovich class frigates.

    But I heard that they were replacing them with Russian engines as there is already various prototypes of the same type of ship based diesel electric engines, but of various sizes and capabilities.

    That said, the 22800 project ship will probably be replacement for various types of ships for rough seas. Since Buyan-M proved itself recently, I imagine there will be a further demand for such a ship and the 22800 is probably just that - an ocean based Buyan-M. Hopefully with a more powerful air defense system though.

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