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    Project 21631: Buyan-M missile ship

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    Post  flamming_python Fri Apr 04, 2014 12:49 pm

    TR1 wrote:Zelenodolsk got another contract for 3 Byan-Ms.

    Guess where they are going.

    Black Sea fleet?
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    Post  partizan Fri Apr 04, 2014 1:52 pm

    My tought exactly...
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    Post  AlfaT8 Fri Apr 04, 2014 4:44 pm

    flamming_python wrote:
    TR1 wrote:Zelenodolsk got another contract for 3 Byan-Ms.

    Guess where they are going.

    Black Sea fleet?
    partizan wrote:My tought exactly...

    Thank god, there finally getting that thing out of the Caspian.  cheers 
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    Post  magnumcromagnon Fri Apr 04, 2014 6:12 pm

    TR1 wrote:Project 21631: Buyan-M missile ship - Page 2 Attachment.php?item=380185&download=2&type=

    New kids on the block.

    Can anyone tell me what types of ammunition is meant for the main gun? Is their fuzed munitions, guided shells?
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    Post  medo Fri Apr 04, 2014 8:05 pm

    Russian navy need Buyan-M ships in all fleets to replace old Nanushka missile boats. It is bigger ship with smaller crew, so it could operate longer on the sea. In my opinion they need around 6 ships in every fleet to secure closer zone around naval bases and to protect territorial waters. Pacific fleet need them even more to protect Kamchatka, Kurils, Sakhalin and Vladivostok bases.
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    Post  TR1 Fri Apr 04, 2014 10:36 pm

    Contract is for 12 boats now, so there are plenty to go around.

    I can't imagine they will send more than 6 to the Caspian.
    The current structure is 6 21631s + 3 21630 + the two big frigates, that is more than enough.
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    Post  TheArmenian Sat Apr 05, 2014 9:10 am

    TR1 wrote:Contract is for 12 boats now, so there are plenty to go around.

    I can't imagine they will send more than 6 to the Caspian.
    The current structure is 6 21631s + 3 21630 + the two big frigates, that is more than enough.

    Link please.
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    Post  GarryB Sat Apr 05, 2014 10:19 am

    Can anyone tell me what types of ammunition is meant for the main gun? Is their fuzed munitions, guided shells?

    AFAIK there are a few types of fixed ammo for the 100mm naval gun.

    There is a standard HE shell with a mechanical time fuse, plus one with a radio proximity fuse for engaging small aerial targets.

    There is also a practise shell with a flash/smoke payload so you can see clearly where it hits.

    There is also a degreasing shell to clear the barrel of the grease that protects it from sea water and also raise the temperature of the barrel in very cold conditions to prepare it for firing standard shells.
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    Post  TR1 Sat Apr 05, 2014 10:21 am

    http://www.business-gazeta.ru/article/101018/
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    Post  George1 Wed Apr 30, 2014 7:48 pm

    2 New Missile Corvettes to Join Russia’s Caspian Flotilla


    MOSCOW, April 30 (RIA Novosti) – Russia’s two newest missile corvettes, the Grad Sviyazhsk and the Uglich, have successfully undergone navy sea trials and will be assigned to the Caspian flotilla by July, a spokesman for the Southern Military District said Wednesday.

    “The two ships are due to join the Russian navy at the end of the first half of 2014. Most likely, they will be assigned to the Caspian flotilla by July 1,” the spokesman said.

    He added the pair will be the first Buyan-M-class corvettes to join the Caspian flotilla.

    Anatoly Shlemov, head of the state defense contracts department at the United Shipbuilding Corporation, earlier said the Russian navy would receive ten warships this year.

    The Navy is expecting the Veliky Ustyug corvette by late this year and six more warships of the same class by 2020, he said.

    Corvettes of the Buyan-M class have a displacement of 950 tons and a maximum speed of 25 knots. They are armed with Kalibr (SS-N-27) anti-ship missiles, 100-mm and 30-mm guns, as well as Igla-1M air defense missiles.

    The Caspian flotilla is based in Astrakhan.
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    Post  TR1 Sat May 24, 2014 8:46 am

    http://zvezdochka-ru.livejournal.com/tag/%D0%91%D1%83%D1%8F%D0%BD-%D0%9C

    This is interesting. I did not know Zvezdochka make the pumpjets for the 21631.
    This is the 4th set, and they are finishing work on the 5th. They are expecting another order for 4 more sets soon as well.

    So..............at least 9 Byan-M ships for now.
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    Post  TR1 Thu May 29, 2014 11:26 am

    7th 21631 laid down. Named Orehovo-Zyevo.
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    Post  zg18 Sat Jun 07, 2014 10:59 pm

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    "Uglich" firing Kalibr
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    Post  Viktor Sat Jun 07, 2014 11:14 pm

    zg18 wrote:Project 21631: Buyan-M missile ship - Page 2 1229611_900

    "Uglich" firing Kalibr

    Look at the size of the missile in comparison with the boat ... funny how Russians managed too squize missiles in (8 of them)  thumbsup 
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    Post  zg18 Mon Jun 23, 2014 9:42 am

    Third Buyan-M "Veliky Ustyug" hit the water

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    Post  Viktor Mon Jul 28, 2014 4:56 pm

    Two more delivered to Russian Navy  thumbsup 

    The ships' Hail Svijazhsk "and" Uglich "raised Naval flags
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    Post  Viktor Mon Aug 11, 2014 2:25 am

    Great great ... nice VLS    Very Happy 

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    Post  medo Mon Aug 11, 2014 5:10 pm

    Viktor wrote:Great great ... nice VLS    Very Happy 

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    This picture shows well, how much bigger Buyan-M is comparing to Buyan ship.
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    Post  Dima Fri Aug 15, 2014 2:23 pm

    Pr.21631 have real good strike loads, but the numbers should be increased and construction accelerated so that the Black sea area is filled with at least 12 of these corvettes. These corvettes are more than enough to deal with any naval force that may come to challenge the Russian forces.

    These are low tonnage ships and an effort must be taken at the earliest to built them faster. There need to be also other variants other than land and anti-ship, like....

    anti-sub variant
    8 x Klub

    air-defence variant
    32 x Shtil or
    8 x S-300/400

    Targeting unit
    1 x tracking radar for S-300/400 and Shtil (installed in place of VL silos, the related equipments like power supply & processing units)
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    Post  medo Fri Aug 15, 2014 8:30 pm

    I would more like to see to order 18 more Buyan-M ships, with 6 ships for Baltic, Northern and Pacific fleets, to replace old Nanushka missile corvettes.

    Black sea fleet with 6 Buyan-M corvettes, 6 Grigorovich frigates and 6 new Kilo subs will be quite powerful for Black sea operations.
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    Post  navyfield Sat Aug 16, 2014 11:39 am

    the ships are well armed as is , but still too slow production.
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    Post  GarryB Sat Aug 16, 2014 1:31 pm

    They have shown once they have mastered the production of a type they can produce them fast enough... you just have to look at the Kilos and Talwars to see that serial production is OK... it is one off new ships or boats of a class that takes time... problem with components from the Ukraine now will not help in the short term though in the long term will just make Russian boats cheaper.
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    Post  Mike E Sat Aug 16, 2014 6:25 pm

    GarryB wrote:They have shown once they have mastered the production of a type they can produce them fast enough... you just have to look at the Kilos and Talwars to see that serial production is OK... it is one off new ships or boats of a class that takes time... problem with components from the Ukraine now will not help in the short term though in the long term will just make Russian boats cheaper.

    Man, all those "oh, but they build them so slow" comments must be driving you nuts! They complain about how this ship and that ship and a totally different ship are all being built "slow", while forgetting that those three ships are all getting built at one time (by "ship I mean ship classes).
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    Post  Viktor Fri Aug 29, 2014 2:12 pm

    Another project 21631 started its life

    Laid MRC "Ingushetia"
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    Post  Mike E Fri Aug 29, 2014 4:30 pm

    Viktor wrote:Another project 21631 started its life

    Laid MRC "Ingushetia"

    Seems like a never ending flood of good news today! Fine by me!

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