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    Re: Project 21631: Buyan-M corvette

    Post  George1 on Fri Jan 20, 2017 1:17 am

    AyalaBotto wrote:Hi,

    I’m looking for the deck colours of the Project 21631 Buyan-M class Corvette of the Russian Navy.

    The link bellow (in Cyirilic) shows detailed and high resolution photos with a Project 21631 Buyan-M class Corvette with the decks painted with a (new?) grey colour scheme, that I believe is the same grey colour used on the hull and structures.


    Source : http://fotografersha.livejournal.com/838153.html


    However, other photos shows the decks painted with the (traditional/old?) red brick colour.

    Source: http://www.russiadefence.net/t3033p75-project-21631-buyan-m-corvette


    More info about the Project 21631 Buyan-M class Corvettes:
    http://forums.airbase.ru/2010/06/t70277--malyj-raketnyj-korabl-proekta-21631-buyan-m-proekt-21632-tor.html


    Any comments regarding the colour decks issue is welcome!


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    Re: Project 21631: Buyan-M corvette

    Post  hoom on Fri Jan 20, 2017 3:06 am

    Could be just a paint availability thing?

    Zeleny Dol had grey deck on the way to the Baltic while Serpukhov was red deck

    But it looks to have gone red after repainting once it arrived (red at the bottom of the AK-630 Duet/mast)



    Edit: Hmmm maybe just the light reflection on that pic actually, may have been red paint on the way out too Suspect

    Then it could be the Caspian flotilla uses grey decks vs red on BSF/Baltic Fleet?


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    Re: Project 21631: Buyan-M corvette

    Post  Militarov on Fri Jan 20, 2017 3:09 am

    From what i am aware red is so called "base" paint that is there to protect aganist salt and corrosion in general, it supposed to be painted over by layer of "real paint", which was not the case on many Soviet ships however, including Peter the Great.
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    Re: Project 21631: Buyan-M corvette

    Post  AyalaBotto on Fri Jan 20, 2017 12:36 pm

    George1 wrote:


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    Hi,

    Presentation done and links removed.
    I'll only mention the links with the original source of the photos posted.


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    Re: Project 21631: Buyan-M corvette

    Post  AyalaBotto on Fri Jan 20, 2017 12:38 pm

    Militarov wrote:From what i am aware red is so called "base" paint that is there to protect aganist salt and corrosion in general, it supposed to be painted over by layer of "real paint", which was not the case on many Soviet ships however, including Peter the Great.

    Hi,

    Does it mean that the deck "red brick" colour coat will be painted over with the final and definitive grey colour, the same grey used on the hull and other structures?


    Another question: the ships of this class (Project 21361) will received the Pantsir-S air defense missile-gun system?


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    Re: Project 21631: Buyan-M corvette

    Post  Isos on Fri Jan 20, 2017 4:59 pm

    The grey paint looks like more to a "wallpaper" that they stick on the deck with probably rcs reduction capabilities. The form it has can be seen on western ships. I don't know if you see what I means.
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    Re: Project 21631: Buyan-M corvette

    Post  PapaDragon on Fri Jan 20, 2017 9:05 pm

    AyalaBotto wrote:
    Militarov wrote:From what i am aware red is so called "base" paint that is there to protect aganist salt and corrosion in general, it supposed to be painted over by layer of "real paint", which was not the case on many Soviet ships however, including Peter the Great.

    Hi,

    Does it mean that the deck "red brick" colour coat will be painted over with the final and definitive grey colour, the same grey used on the hull and other structures?


    Another question: the ships of this class (Project 21361) will received the Pantsir-S air defense missile-gun system?


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    Keep in mind that Caspian fleet uses different shade of gray than rest of the navy. Much brighter one.
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    Re: Project 21631: Buyan-M corvette

    Post  Militarov on Sat Jan 21, 2017 12:02 am

    AyalaBotto wrote:
    Militarov wrote:From what i am aware red is so called "base" paint that is there to protect aganist salt and corrosion in general, it supposed to be painted over by layer of "real paint", which was not the case on many Soviet ships however, including Peter the Great.

    Hi,

    Does it mean that the deck "red brick" colour coat will be painted over with the final and definitive grey colour, the same grey used on the hull and other structures?


    Another question: the ships of this class (Project 21361) will received the Pantsir-S air defense missile-gun system?


    Thanks.
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    I expect so, but we cant know for sure, Peter the Great never got its deck repainted, its always being just repainted by base protective paint of redish color. But since some of the Buyans got repainted i expect all to be.

    Project 21361 for now will keep its existing air defence systems, maybe sometimes in future it recieves navalised Pancirs, but for now doesnt seem like it.

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    Re: Project 21631: Buyan-M corvette

    Post  GarryB on Sat Jan 21, 2017 10:24 am

    The red paint is a traditional paint used on Soviet and Russian vessels and it has a non slip component to it to make standing on the deck easier and safer.

    It also has a visibility aspect too as a lighter colour reflects light better so you can see better where you are putting your feet in adverse conditions.

    I rather suspect if there is a new grey paint that it has non slip properties as well.


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    Re: Project 21631: Buyan-M corvette

    Post  TheArmenian on Thu Apr 20, 2017 12:57 pm

    A new Project 21631 BUYAN-M class missile ship will be laid down at Zelenodolsk on the 24th of April.

    http://www.zdship.ru/press-center/news-events/2290/

    This will be the 10th ship of the class.
    The name will be "GRAD".
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    Re: Project 21631: Buyan-M corvette

    Post  PapaDragon on Thu Apr 20, 2017 1:21 pm

    TheArmenian wrote:A new Project 21631 BUYAN-M class missile ship will be laid down at Zelenodolsk on the 24th of April.

    http://www.zdship.ru/press-center/news-events/2290/

    This will be the 10th ship of the class.
    The name will be "GRAD".

    Grad is ''hale'' in Russian (among others). This is new trend, so far they have been naming them after cities and towns.

    Then again they stopped naming Karakurts after meteorological terms and switched to adjectives for the newest one.

    So it looks like Zelenodolsk will be sticking with Buyan class. Makes sense if they solved engine issues. They are more than good enough for Black Sea, Caspian and Baltic fleets.
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    Re: Project 21631: Buyan-M corvette

    Post  TheArmenian on Mon Apr 24, 2017 11:09 am

    And as expected:

    Missile ship GRAD has been laid down today at Zelenodolsk....with possible NAVAL PANTSIR.

    http://www.tatar-inform.ru/news/2017/04/24/550008/


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    Re: Project 21631: Buyan-M corvette

    Post  chicken on Mon Apr 24, 2017 1:45 pm

    TheArmenian wrote:And as expected:

    Missile ship GRAD has been laid down today at Zelenodolsk....with possible NAVAL PANTSIR.

    http://www.tatar-inform.ru/news/2017/04/24/550008/


    No main gun?

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    Re: Project 21631: Buyan-M corvette

    Post  ult on Mon Apr 24, 2017 4:08 pm

    chicken wrote:
    No main gun?

    Just not pictured for some reason. The previous plate didn't have it either. Maybe they'll replace it with a new АК-176МА.



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    Re: Project 21631: Buyan-M corvette

    Post  ult on Mon Apr 24, 2017 4:14 pm

    6th ship, Vyshniy Volochek:



    7th, Orekhovo-Zuyevo:



    8th, Ingushetiya:


    22160 behind them:

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    Re: Project 21631: Buyan-M corvette

    Post  medo on Mon Apr 24, 2017 8:24 pm

    ult wrote:6th ship, Vyshniy Volochek:



    7th, Orekhovo-Zuyevo:



    8th, Ingushetiya:


    22160 behind them:


    Behind Buyan-M ships is also 22160 class ship, which is painted and have the main gun installed. It looks like it is ready to be launched.
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    Re: Project 21631: Buyan-M corvette

    Post  hoom on Tue Apr 25, 2017 2:48 am

    with possible NAVAL PANTSIR.
    I think just the radar post

    Kinda odd they don't put the weapons on the plate but it looks like maybe a manual drawing/etching rather than the laser cut style seen on some other ships so perhaps not too surprising to have a simplified profile?

    The 22160 was supposed to be launching in March.

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    Re: Project 21631: Buyan-M corvette

    Post  ult on Tue Apr 25, 2017 6:34 pm

    Bigger picture.


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