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    Project Kalina Submarine

    Post  Russian Patriot on Thu Mar 20, 2014 11:16 pm

    MOSCOW, March 19 (RIA Novosti) – A prospective series of Russia’s new fifth-generation conventional submarine equipped with an advanced air-independent propulsion system will be designated the Kalina-class, the commander of the country's navy said Wednesday.
    “Russia is currently designing a fifth-generation conventional submarine, dubbed Project Kalina, which will be fitted with an air-independent propulsion (AIP) system,” Adm. Viktor Chirkov said.
    “Our industry promises to develop this AIP system by 2017 and build the first boat fitted with such a system by 2018,” Chirkov said.
    The admiral earlier said that the new AIP system could be initially tested on the only operational Lada-class diesel-electric submarine in service with the navy, the St. Petersburg, which is undergoing sea trials in the Barents Sea after a series of design changes.



    Air-independent power plants offer significant advantages over diesel-electric submarines, which must surface regularly to recharge their batteries, and nuclear submarines, which must continually run noisy pumps to cool their reactors.
    Submarines with such systems can stay submerged for weeks at a time and are already in operation with a number of navies around the world. The United States has so far not employed the technology, however, in favor of the longer endurance and range of nuclear submarines.

    http://en.ria.ru/military_news/20140319/188575985/Russian-Navy-Unveils-New-Class-of-Submarines.html
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    Re: Project Kalina Submarine

    Post  George1 on Thu Aug 28, 2014 5:44 pm

    Construction of 'Anaerobic' Non-Nuclear Subs to Begin in 2017 - Russian Navy

    ST. PETERSBURG, August 28 (RIA Novosti) – Russia will begin constructing a new generation of nonatomic submarines equipped with “anaerobic systems,” Navy Commander Adm. Viktor Chirkov said Thursday.

    “Of course, the construction of diesel-electric submarines will continue. Today, we are talking about non-atomic submarines. Starting from 2017, [the construction of] a new series [of submarines] with an anaerobic system will begin and the Admiralteisky Wharf will take on the construction,” Chirkov said.

    The main advantage of the air-independent energy system is an increase in the ship’s speed and the ability for it to remain submerged when recharging its batteries as opposed to surfacing to recharge them.

    Meanwhile, the construction of diesel-electric submarines in Russia is in progress. The third in the series of six Varshavyanka-class submarines, built for the Crimea-based Black Sea Fleet, is expected to be launched Thursday in St. Petersburg.

    The construction of all six submarines is to be completed by 2016. They are almost undetectable when submerged and feature advanced stealth technology, extended combat range and the ability to strike land, surface and underwater targets. The submarines are mainly intended for anti-ship and anti-submarine missions in relatively shallow waters.
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    "Kalina" with anaerobic propulsion

    Post  GunshipDemocracy on Wed Jul 01, 2015 4:52 pm

    The Russian Federation has developed a draft PL "Kalina" with anaerobic propulsion




    St. PETERSBURG, 1 Jul — RIA Novosti. CDB "ruby" by order of the defense Ministry has developed a preliminary design non-nuclear submarine type "Kalina" with anaerobic (air) power plant, reported RIA Novosti on Wednesday the Director of the Department of defense procurement of the United shipbuilding Corporation Anatoly Shelmov.

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    Re: Project Kalina Submarine

    Post  George1 on Thu Jan 21, 2016 10:21 am

    Navy: the fifth generation of submarines "Kalina" will receive the best quality of the projects 636 and 677

    According to Vice-Admiral Alexander Fedotenkova, currently underway preparatory work on the design of the submarine project


    PETERSBURG, January 21. / TASS /. A fundamentally new design non-nuclear submarine "Kalina", which will be implemented in the best quality of the projects 636 and 677, prepared in Russia. This was announced on Thursday, Deputy Chief of the Russian Navy, Vice-Admiral Alexander Fedotenkov.
    "Preparatory works are underway on the design principle of the new project non-nuclear submarine" Kalina ", which will be implemented in the best quality of the projects 636 and 677," - he said.
    Zamglavkoma noted that the Russian Navy has not yet decided on the spot to build six submarines 636 project for the Pacific Fleet.
    However, he stressed that the construction of a series of non-nuclear submarines of "Lada" is not planned to stop.
    "Based on the results of trial operation of submarines" Kronstadt "and" Great Luke "will be determined by the need for further quantitative Navy Project 677" Lada ". Termination of the construction at the moment is not considered", - he said.

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    Re: Project Kalina Submarine

    Post  GunshipDemocracy on Thu Jan 21, 2016 2:01 pm

    Maybe they want to see if Kalina will be soon available or will be kinda "Groshkov acceptance process" so next stopgap after 636 will be Lada.
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    Re: Project Kalina Submarine

    Post  Book. on Sat Jan 23, 2016 10:44 pm

    I like idea 5000+ ton kilo

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    Re: Project Kalina Submarine

    Post  George1 on Tue Feb 09, 2016 12:39 am

    Development work on the construction of a new Russian submarine "Kalina" may begin as early as 2017.

    http://flotprom.ru/2016/%D0%A0%D1%83%D0%B1%D0%B8%D0%BD1/


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    Re: Project Kalina Submarine

    Post  George1 on Fri Mar 18, 2016 3:44 pm

    The project is the latest non-nuclear submarine "Kalina" has been developed

    The project is not yet approved by the Ministry of Defense. The main features of this project will be a full-time anaerobic (airindependent) power plant and cruise missiles "Caliber", said the representative of the military industrial complex.

    MOSCOW, March 18 - RIA Novosti. Project newest non-nuclear submarine of the 5th generation of "Kalina" is developed, but not yet approved by the Ministry of Defence (Navy), told RIA Novosti on Friday, a senior official of the Military Industrial Complex (MIC).

    Earlier in the day, Deputy Commander of the Russian Navy, Vice Admiral Alexander Fedotenkov told reporters that the construction of a series of non-nuclear submarines of the fifth generation with airindependent power plant will begin in Russia in the near future.

    "Project" Kalina "the development of CDB ME" Rubin "is already there, but it is not endorsed by or agreed with the Ministry of Defence", - said the source.

    However, he stressed that the main features of this project will be a full-time anaerobic (airindependent) power plant and cruise missiles "Caliber".

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    Re: Project Kalina Submarine

    Post  GunshipDemocracy on Fri Mar 18, 2016 6:05 pm

    The construction of submarines "Kalina" will be part of the new armament program of the Russian Federation

    MOSCOW, 18 Mar — RIA Novosti. The construction of modern non-nuclear submarines (nuclear submarines) of the project "Kalina" and their number will be determined by the new state armaments program (GPV) Russia till 2025, has informed RIA Novosti news Agency on Friday the official representative of "United shipbuilding Corporation" (USC).
    The project "Kalina" design CDB me "Rubin" already, but not yet endorsed by or coordinated with the defense Ministry. The main features of this project will be regular anaerobic (air) power plant (VNEU) and cruise missiles "Calibre".
    "The number of units ordered non-nuclear submarines of the project "Kalina" will be determined in the formation of a new TAG. The question of the construction of the submarines will depend on the willingness of staff VNEW to be set up with the Federal targeted programme of the defence industry", — said the Agency interlocutor.
    A new GPV up to 2025 is planned to be adopted in the current year.


    http://ria.ru/defense_safety/20160318/1392182730.html

    George1 wrote:The project is the latest non-nuclear submarine "Kalina" has been developed

    The project is not yet approved by the Ministry of Defense. The main features of this project will be a full-time anaerobic (airindependent) power plant and cruise missiles "Caliber", said the representative of the military industrial complex.

    MOSCOW, March 18 - RIA Novosti. Project newest non-nuclear submarine of the 5th generation of "Kalina" is developed, but not yet approved by the Ministry of Defence (Navy), told RIA Novosti on Friday, a senior official of the Military Industrial Complex (MIC).

    Earlier in the day, Deputy Commander of the Russian Navy, Vice Admiral Alexander Fedotenkov told reporters that the construction of a series of non-nuclear submarines of the fifth generation with airindependent power plant will begin in Russia in the near future.



    Well thy say development so implicite there might be rather based on Lada not a Lada with AIP. I hope since Lada was designed in final years of USSR and Kalina will enter production in 2020s... hope new materials, new avionics, new shape? engines?
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    Re: Project Kalina Submarine

    Post  George1 on Tue Mar 22, 2016 3:30 pm

    Project Kalina: Russia’s Fifth-Generation Diesel-Electric Submarine

    Russia is set to start construction of its new fifth-generation Kalina-class diesel-electric submarine in the “imminent future,” earlier than previously announced, according to Navy Deputy Commander-in-Chief Vice-Admiral Alexander Fedotenkov; here is what the new project is all about.

    The construction of new fifth-generation non-nuclear submarines dubbed Project Kalina, equipped with air-independent propulsion systems, will apparently begin earlier than planned, in the “imminent future.”

    The Central Construction Bureau of Maritime Technology (TsKB) ‘Rubin’ that was commissioned by the Defense Ministry, has developed a draft new non-nuclear submarine, Alexander Fedotenkov said in an interview with the Strategy program on Rossiya 24 news channel on Friday.

    “These are new-generation submarines. They are currently being developed,” Fedotenkov said. “The construction of these submarines will start in the imminent future.”

    Earlier reports suggested that the construction would only start after 2020.

    The new submarine will combine the best characteristics of Project 636 (Varshavyanka) and Project 677 (Lada) submarines and is set to be equipped with an air independent propulsion (AIP) system.

    The system offers significant advantages over diesel-electric submarines, which need to surface regularly to recharge batteries, and nuclear submarines, which must constantly run noisy pumps to cool their reactors.

    Submarines with such systems can stay submerged for weeks at a time and are potentially stealthier, the system is already in operation with a number of navies around the world.

    According to some estimates, with the new AIP system installed, the Kalina would be able to stay underwater for about twenty-five days.

    Earlier reports suggested that Russia’s Rubin Design Bureau expected the Kalina design to be completed by 2017 and the first Kalina to be fitted with AIP by 2018.

    New AIP system could be initially tested on the operational Lada-class diesel-electric submarine in service with the Russian Navy, the Sankt Peterburg (St. Petersburg).

    Meanwhile, the two last Lada-class Project 677 submarines will be delivered as scheduled — in 2018 and 2019. Afterwards Moscow will terminate the Project 677 Lada-class in favor of Project Kalina.

    The Lada-class, or Project 677, is a fourth-generation diesel-electric submarine based on the older Kilo-class submarine and does not currently incorporate an AIP.

    China has been negotiating with Russia to purchase four Lada-class submarines from the Rubin Design Bureau based in St Petersburg. Beijing hoped those submarines could be refitted with Chinese engines and an electronic fire-control system.

    Reports suggest that variants of the fifth-generation submarines may also be sold to India and China.

    Read more: http://sputniknews.com/military/20160322/1036746542/russia-kalina-class-submarine.html#ixzz43dsL2Mol


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    Re: Project Kalina Submarine

    Post  GunshipDemocracy on Tue Jun 28, 2016 11:47 am

    Source: in 2018 will provide the latest non-nuclear submarine of the project "Kalina"


    MOSCOW, 28 Jun — RIA Novosti. The newest non-nuclear submarine of the project "Kalina" (the fifth generation) will be laid in 2018, told RIA Novosti on Tuesday, a senior source in the Navy (the Navy).

    "The project "Kalina" we are certainly topical, this project should be very successful. Head boat lay in 2018," — said the Agency interlocutor.
    According to him, the laying up of the boats is planned for "Admiralty shipyards" in St. Petersburg.
    Currently, this facility built nuclear submarines of the fourth generation of project 636 for black sea fleet. It is also planned to build six submarines for the Pacific fleet.

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    Re: Project Kalina Submarine

    Post  PapaDragon on Wed Jun 29, 2016 12:50 pm

    GunshipDemocracy wrote:Source: in 2018 will provide the latest non-nuclear submarine of the project "Kalina"


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    РИА Новости http://ria.ru/defense_safety/20160628/1453568710.html#ixzz4CrkRecnf

    Guys, what are the chances of Kalina having vertical launch tubes (UKSK)? After show Caspian fleet put up I think it would make sense.

    I know they can use torpedo tubes for cruise missiles but having separate system would make more sense. Torpedo tubes should be used for torpedoes.

    Or they could at least enlarge storage space in the front to fit more torpedoes/missiles.
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    Re: Project Kalina Submarine

    Post  GunshipDemocracy on Wed Jun 29, 2016 1:32 pm

    PapaDragon wrote:
    GunshipDemocracy wrote:Source: in 2018 will provide the latest non-nuclear submarine of the project "Kalina"


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    РИА Новости http://ria.ru/defense_safety/20160628/1453568710.html#ixzz4CrkRecnf

    Guys, what are the chances of Kalina having vertical launch tubes (UKSK)? After show Caspian fleet put up I think it would make sense.  

    I know they can use torpedo tubes for cruise missiles but having separate system would make more sense. Torpedo tubes should be used for torpedoes.

    Or they could at least enlarge storage space in the front to fit more torpedoes/missiles.  

    maybe Kalina will be modular? Lada is in fact updated Soviet design maybe Kalina will bring something pretty new ?

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    Re: Project Kalina Submarine

    Post  GarryB on Thu Jun 30, 2016 1:53 pm

    I would suspect experience with Kalibr and Klub and potential for Onyx and Zircon would make a UKSK launcher quite likely on the new sub... it adds serious capability to any vessel it is fitted to, and I suspect they will only expand its capabilities in the future...

    Things like UAVs or UCAVs that can be launched in peacetime as tools that can go places no manned vessels can go, and of course their sea surface and subsurface equivalents could be developed and fitted to these tubes too.


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    Re: Project Kalina Submarine

    Post  George1 on Wed Jun 28, 2017 10:53 pm

    Preliminary design for fifth-generation non-nuclear submarine completed

    Negotiations for putting together the technical project are underway

    ST. PETERSBURG, June 28./TASS/. The preliminary project for the fifth-generation non-nuclear submarine has already been concluded in Russia, and negotiations for putting together the technical project are underway, the United Shipbuilding Corporation’s (USC) Vice President for Naval Construction, Igor Ponomaryov, told TASS.

    "The preliminary design for the advanced fifth-generation non-nuclear submarine was developed by the Rubin Central Design Bureau has already been completed, and the approval of the draft proposal for the ship’s engineering design is being discussed. The decision on its construction will be taken after the engineering design is completed," he said.

    As Director General of the Rubin Central Design Bureau, Igor Vilnit, told TASS earlier, the fifth-generation non-nuclear submarine project will be based on the Project 677 Lada. The pilot submarine of this class - the St. Petersburg - is being tested at the Northern Shipyard and two more are under construction.

    The fifth-generation non-nuclear submarines will be equipped with air-independent propulsion.

    Deputy Commander-in-Chief of the Russian Navy, Vice Admiral Alexander Fedotenkov, earlier said that the project for fifth-generation non-nuclear submarines will be dubbed "Kalina." According to the naval commander, they will be built for the Northern and Baltic Fleets.


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