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    Re: Russia Tank Force: Present and Future (Numbers)

    Post  franco on Sat May 28, 2016 1:08 pm

    George1 wrote:franco can we have an update on tank numbers per type?? thanks

    The Tank force is undergoing a major transitional period over the next couple of years with ~ 20 new battalions being formed. This will increase the total of operational tanks by 800-900 units.
    As per numbers per type, the T-72B3 could be as many as 900 operational and the T-80's could be as low as 200 operational would be the only changes.
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    Re: Russia Tank Force: Present and Future (Numbers)

    Post  Isos on Sat May 28, 2016 3:10 pm

    What are the diferences between an operational tank and a reserve tank ? Equipiment carried, engines issues, deployment time ...
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    Re: Russia Tank Force: Present and Future (Numbers)

    Post  franco on Sat May 28, 2016 4:10 pm

    Isos wrote:What are the diferences between an operational tank and a reserve tank ? Equipiment carried, engines issues, deployment time ...

    Has a trained crew and is part of an operational unit ie tank battalion ready for action.

    A tank in reserve or storage is basically just a piece of metal Smile
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    Re: Russia Tank Force: Present and Future (Numbers)

    Post  Isos on Sat May 28, 2016 6:56 pm

    franco wrote:
    Isos wrote:What are the diferences between an operational tank and a reserve tank ? Equipiment carried, engines issues, deployment time ...

    Has a trained crew and is part of an operational unit ie tank battalion ready for action.

    A tank in reserve or storage is basically just a piece of metal Smile

    Does they train their reserve forces ? I mean it's not the same to form a civil firing with an AK than forming him to use a tank.

    Another question about tanks also : If you fire on the turret where the gun is and penetrate the gun, will the tank be able to still use its gun after that ?
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    Re: Russia Tank Force: Present and Future (Numbers)

    Post  franco on Sat May 28, 2016 7:20 pm

    Isos wrote:
    franco wrote:
    Isos wrote:What are the diferences between an operational tank and a reserve tank ? Equipiment carried, engines issues, deployment time ...

    Has a trained crew and is part of an operational unit ie tank battalion ready for action.

    A tank in reserve or storage is basically just a piece of metal Smile

    Does they train their reserve forces ? I mean it's not the same to form a civil firing with an AK than forming him to use a tank.

    Another question about tanks also : If you fire on the turret where the gun is and penetrate the gun, will the tank be able to still use its gun after that ?

    There is no unit reserve training...some but not much individual training and reserve units are on paper only. Would take months to be battle ready.

    No!
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    MOSCOW, September 7. /TASS/. By 2020

    Post  franco on Fri Sep 08, 2017 8:28 am

    MOSCOW, September 7. /TASS/. By 2020, Russia plans to scrap 4,000 outdated Soviet-made tanks and other armored fighting vehicles, not 10,000 as was originally planned, Chief of the Main Armored Directorate of the Russian Defence Ministry Lt. Gen. Alexander Shevchenko said.

    "Initially, when the program was drafted, it was planned that about 10,000 Soviet-made armored fighting vehicles (AFVs) stored in warehouses will be scrapped," Shevchenko said.

    "However, in line with changes in the international situation, the increase in combat skills of servicemen of the Russian armed forces, growing patriotism of Russian citizens and the appearance of new technical and technological solutions for deep upgrade allowing to turn outdated equipment into modern one, we had to review our plans," the official added. "At present, the number of armored fighting vehicles to be scrapped in line with the program until 2020 stands at about 4,000 such vehicles.".


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    Re: Russia Tank Force: Present and Future (Numbers)

    Post  d_taddei2 on Thu Sep 21, 2017 10:25 pm

    franco wrote:MOSCOW, September 7. /TASS/. By 2020, Russia plans to scrap 4,000 outdated Soviet-made tanks and other armored fighting vehicles, not 10,000 as was originally planned, Chief of the Main Armored Directorate of the Russian Defence Ministry Lt. Gen. Alexander Shevchenko said.

    "Initially, when the program was drafted, it was planned that about 10,000 Soviet-made armored fighting vehicles (AFVs) stored in warehouses will be scrapped," Shevchenko said.

    "However, in line with changes in the international situation, the increase in combat skills of servicemen of the Russian armed forces, growing patriotism of Russian citizens and the appearance of new technical and technological solutions for deep upgrade allowing to turn outdated equipment into modern one, we had to review our plans," the official added. "At present, the number of armored fighting vehicles to be scrapped in line with the program until 2020 stands at about 4,000 such vehicles.".



    Probably find that the reduction in number is also related to Syria. Russia has been arming them with reserve equipment and once Syria is secured they will have to rebuild their forces with most likely but older upgraded equipment instead of new equipment to keep costs down for example instead of buying new built bmp-3 they will end up buying upgraded bmp-1&2
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    Re: Russia Tank Force: Present and Future (Numbers)

    Post  George1 on Sun Jan 28, 2018 1:36 am

    franco can we have an update on tank numbers per type?? thanks

    T-90:
    T-80:
    T-72B3:
    T-72B/BA:
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    Re: Russia Tank Force: Present and Future (Numbers)

    Post  franco on Sun Jan 28, 2018 2:20 am

    George1 wrote:franco can we have an update on tank numbers per type?? thanks

    T-90:
    T-80:
    T-72B3:
    T-72B/BA:

    ~ 350 T-90A
    ~ 250 T-80U
    ~ 300 T-80BVM (in process)
    ~ 1300 T-72B3 (present contracts, more??)
    ~ 200 T-72BA
    ~ 100 T-14 (in process)
    ~ 1,000 T-72B
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    Re: Russia Tank Force: Present and Future (Numbers)

    Post  d_taddei2 on Wed Feb 14, 2018 12:14 pm

    What is the future plans of Russian tank force up to 2030?????

    A mix of:
    T-72BM3
    T-90
    T-14
    T-80 (artic based areas)
    ????????????????

    Or will be T-14 and T-90 based??????
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    Re: Russia Tank Force: Present and Future (Numbers)

    Post  0nillie0 on Wed Feb 14, 2018 12:25 pm

    d_taddei2 wrote:What is the future plans of Russian tank force up to 2030?????

    A mix of:
    T-72BM3
    T-90
    T-14
    T-80  (artic based areas)
    ????????????????

    Or will be T-14 and T-90 based??????

    Assuming no major conflict involving Russian armor breaks out, and the economic situation of Russia remains roughly the same as it is now, IMHO we can expect the T-72B3 and T-72B3M tanks te remain in "frontline duty" service beyond 2025.
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    What is the future plans of Russian tank force up to 2030?????

    Post  GunshipDemocracy on Wed Feb 14, 2018 1:04 pm

    0nillie0 wrote:
    d_taddei2 wrote:What is the future plans of Russian tank force up to 2030?????

    Assuming no major conflict involving Russian armor breaks out, and the economic situation of Russia remains roughly the same as it is now, IMHO we can expect the T-72B3 and T-72B3M tanks te remain in "frontline duty" service beyond 2025.

    Thus answering the original question: IMHO T-72 first then T-90 ( both with Proryv turret) will be gradually replaced by Armatas. And who know light tanks on Kurganets?
    With T-80 not sure ho long would it take to make Armata's power-pack for arctic.
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    Re: Russia Tank Force: Present and Future (Numbers)

    Post  franco on Fri Feb 16, 2018 1:19 am

    Contracts of the Ministry of Defense of Russia for the purchase of T-90M and BMPT tanks

       As reported on the web resource otvaga2004.mybb.ru , published on the page of the National tender portal tenderGuru.ru, the tender documentation of NPK Uralvagonzavod discloses some details of contracts concluded by this corporation on August 24, 2017 with the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation for the supply of T- 90M and BMPT tank support vehicles.

    Recall that the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation and NPK Uralvagonzavod signed on August 24, 2017 at the Third International Military Technical Forum "Army-2017" contracts for the supply of new T-90M tanks and BMPT vehicles, as well as contracts for major repairs and modernization of tanks T-72B, T-80BV and T-90. The total amount of contracts amounted to more than 24 billion rubles.

       Now the tender documentation of NPK Uralvagonzavod has been published to ensure the implementation of these contracts for the purchase from the "sole supplier":

       2100-2018-02073. Performing works on the author's support and technical assistance in ensuring the manufacture and shipment in 2018 of 12 units of products 199 per GDZ

     2100-2018-02074. Performing works on the author's support and technical assistance in ensuring the overhaul of 20 tanks of the T-90 type with upgrading to the level of T-90M in accordance with the State Defense Committee of 2018-2019

    2100-2018-02075. Performing works on author support and technical assistance in ensuring the manufacture and shipment of 10 units of 188M products (T-90M tank) in accordance with the State Defense Order 2018-2019

       Thus, as it appears from this documentation (and as predicted by our blog), under the contracts of 2017 with the Ministry of Defense "Uralvagonzavod" it is planned to supply 12 BMPT (in 2018) and 30 T-90M (in 2018-2019 ). At the same time, out of 30 T-90M tanks only ten will be machines of new construction, and the remaining 20 will be converted during the kaital repair and modernization of the T-90 tanks. On the bmpd side, we note that in the latter case, apparently, the goal is to estimate the level of costs, if possible, to upgrade to the T-90M level of the T-90 tank fleet.

       Due to the materials of other tender purchases by NPK Uralvagonzavod, it can be concluded that this package of contracts for 2017 includes also the modernization of 62 T-80B tanks to the T-80BVM level (delivering 21 units in 2018 and 2019).

    NOTE: assume they would mean 31 units per year
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    Re: Russia Tank Force: Present and Future (Numbers)

    Post  miketheterrible on Fri Feb 16, 2018 2:03 am

    I guess they want to test the waters to see if this is the choice or if Armata is more worth it.

    Hard to tell, rather small orders these days while budget is significantly more than it was before.
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    Re: Russia Tank Force: Present and Future (Numbers)

    Post  franco on Fri Feb 16, 2018 2:20 am

    miketheterrible wrote:I guess they want to test the waters to see if this is the choice or if Armata is more worth it.

    Hard to tell, rather small orders these days while budget is significantly more than it was before.

    They have reported that there will be 200 tanks per year. This order is for less then 100 over 2 years, so minus the T-14's that must mean the rest will be T-72B3's. Interesting to note 10 new build T-90M's.
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    Re: Russia Tank Force: Present and Future (Numbers)

    Post  George1 on Sat Jun 09, 2018 4:48 pm

    Russia Ditches Plan to Scrap 10,000 Reserve Tanks
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    Re: Russia Tank Force: Present and Future (Numbers)

    Post  franco on Wed Jul 04, 2018 12:13 pm

    The era of large-scale tank battles has remained in the past. In local conflicts, clear lines of the front have erased - rapid "jihadmobiles" with ATGMs and homemade landmines disguised at the roadside dictate the new rules of the game. To send heavy armored vehicles to the enemy "on the forehead" is not only inefficient, but also deadly.

    Russian tankmen took into account the experience of the war in Syria and developed several tactical methods that make military vehicles virtually invulnerable. To understand how all this works, the correspondent of RIA Novosti went to Voronezh polygon Pogonovo.

    Ferris wheel

    The clatter of trucks, the rumbling of diesel engines and the heavy, rolling thunder of smooth-bore cannons - the other day near Voronezh battalion tactical exercises were held by tank units of the 20th Guards Combined-Arms Army of the Western Military District. She is armed with T-72 Ural tanks of various modifications.

    The most modern ones are the upgraded T-72B3 with a new gun, a digital fire control system, a more powerful engine and the latest generation of dynamic protection modules, Relikt. For the driver-mechanic, a system of speech prompts is provided.

    New machines in the shelves protect and try not to develop their resources, so for educational purposes use old "bekki."

    The main advantage of the 72nd family is its exceptional reliability and trouble-free operation even in the most difficult operating conditions - in heat, frost, with high humidity. If the tank fails, it can be repaired directly "in the field".

    Lifting the pillars of dust, squat 45-ton machines surprisingly scrambling along the slopes of a sun-dried polygon. They shoot at you, almost without stopping.

    On the field, three kilometers from the line of fire, earthen flowers of high-explosive fragmentation explosions "effectively" blossom out. There are wooden targets, imitating enemy armored vehicles.

    The shells lie down in a heap - you can see through binoculars that many of the shields have been destroyed or partially destroyed.

    "This reception is called a" tank carousel, "RIA Novosti tells Captain Roman Schegolev, commander of a tank company. - It allows you to fire for an unlimited time. Machines can be three, six, nine or more. They continuously travel in a circle - one beats, the other goes to the rear and recharges, the third prepares to enter the position and so on. Shooting non-stop, only have time to submit shells. "

    "Unlike the same American Abrams, our tanks have one important advantage - the automatic loading mechanism, which significantly increases the rate of fire," he continues.

    "Carousel" can be compared with the rotating drum of a huge revolver. Only instead of cartridges in it tanks, and instead of bullets - powerful 125-mm shells. The scheme is used when it is not known what the enemy is armed with - tanks, anti-tank guided missiles or grenade launchers.

    An intense disturbing fire over squares with a frequency of up to eight to ten rounds per minute forces one to respond sooner or later, revealing the disguised positions.

    "Imagine, tanks shoot ten, twenty, thirty minutes without a break," explains Schegolev. "On the other side they can not stand it, they open fire in response, illuminating their means. And immediately come into the business of our disguised sniper tanks with specially trained crews. They quickly and qualitatively "leach out" the identified goals. "

    Syrian School

    Local conflicts clearly showed that positional defense and the offensive in the classical sense of self have long ago outlived.

    In the same Syria, militants do not bother with strategic offensive planning and drawing arrows on operational maps, but adhere to mobile tactics of guerrilla warfare - to calculate the positions of government troops, to rush on high-speed "jihadmobiles," to strike point bumps and quickly disappear.

    When repelling such raids, the "tank carousel" is especially effective in combination with the so-called "Syrian shaft" - a high earthen or sandy parapet with openings.

    Tanks continuously move along the parapet and, level with the next "window", shoot. After each shot, they hide behind the embankment. Due to the fact that the machines are in constant motion, it is almost impossible to aim and hit them. To deceive enemy observers, the commander chooses an embrasure for the next shot randomly - this creates the false impression that there are more tanks than in reality.

    "The scheme works even with a small amount of equipment," explains Schegolev. - One tank platoon can achieve such a high intensity of fire that the enemy will be sure: at least a battalion is working against it.

    It is important that the shaft covers the weakest parts of the tank - the side projections of the hull. And then not only a special embankment works, but also a mound of roads or elements of natural relief.

    Passages are drilled both by engineering units, and by the crew itself. Everything depends on the task - the more powerful the enemy grouping, the more they are required.

    And although the "carousel" is primarily a defense tactic, it quickly creates the conditions for the transition to the offensive.

    The tanks are constantly moving and shooting, the crews are "warmed up" - ready for the first team to build into the battle formations and move forward.

    "The most important principle of the tanker is that the crew is a family in which one understands each other from a half-word," said the company commander. - We immediately look, who and how with whom works. If we see that the gunner and the commander have found a common language, we put them in one crew, we check on the firing. A well-knit team and raw, unfamiliar - it's like heaven and earth. "

    Another interesting tactical device is "tank trousers". The tank alternately fires from two trenches dug nearby - the main and backup, without delaying one position for more than three to five seconds. I went into the trench, fired, switched on the rear - and quickly moved to the next. Antitank weapons of the enemy simply do not have time to react.

    Machines can operate in pairs, change places, work crosswise, including in a chaotic sequence.

    "These are rather complicated operations, they require a high level of crew training," said Senior Lieutenant Vladislav Seliverstov, acting commander of the tank company. - We are constantly engaged. In a week, at least two shooting lessons and one driving. First, 14.5 millimeters of trunks are used, and then the crews are allowed up to the main 125-millimeter ammunition. Fighters learn how to properly work in a tank, handle weapons. "

    Vladislav is 27 years old, graduated from Kazan Higher Tank Military School. He can do everything - if necessary, he can replace both the driver and the gunner. His twin brother serves in the same unit as a tank commander - he is a constant participant in the district and army competitions in tank biathlon.

    Armored Invisibles

    Along with the "pants", "roundabout" and "Syrian shaft," the tankers of the 20th Combined-Combined Army hone the shooting from closed fire positions, invented back in the years of the Great Patriotic War. Now, with the advent of new long-range tank guns and stable in-flight ammunition, this tactic has acquired a particular urgency. The point is that tanks hit targets not by direct fire, as usual, but hide in the folds of the terrain and shoot because of them on a trajectory, like howitzers.

    "Our shells are very stable flying, so this technique allows you to inflict maximum damage to the enemy at a very long range," Seliverstov said. - And he does not see tanks, which means he can not suppress them with traditional means of destruction - recoilless guns, ATGMs, ATGMs and grenade launchers. Remains only long-range artillery and aviation, the deployment and firing of which takes time. No one will give his enemy - the tanks quickly arrived, shot and left. "

    Fire corrects the gunner-operator, who enters the data for firing at the side level.

    Accuracy of hits with the correct calculation is very high - at a distance of eight kilometers shells lie with an error of only 15-20 meters. As a rule, high-explosive ordnance is used to fire from closed positions.
    The main battle tank T-72B1 at the Pogonovo training ground in the Voronezh region. ©️ RIA Novosti / Andrey Stanavov

    From an artillery point of view, modern Russian tanks are equipped with more than worthy. For example, the T-72B3 of the latest modification is equipped with a modernized Sosna-U sight, a digital ballistic computer, sensors for shooting conditions and an automatic target tracking system. The calculator is a mini computer that determines the trajectory of the projectile's flight, taking into account the movement of the target and the speed of the tank itself, air temperature, charge and many other parameters. At night the guidance devices operate through the thermal imaging channel of the main sight.

    "The thermal imager is so powerful that one winter I from a distance of two kilometers saw a hare in it," Seliverstov said.

    "Accordingly, a person can be seen even further. And although our main task is fighting with armored vehicles, we learn everything in training - to identify and destroy the calculations of machine guns, RPGs and recoilless guns mounted on cars. For such purposes we usually work from a machine gun. "

    Anyway, no matter how modern and equipped the tank is, it is just an instrument whose combat effectiveness depends on the skill and cohesion of the crew. As with any weapon, they need to be able to use.
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    Re: Russia Tank Force: Present and Future (Numbers)

    Post  George1 on Thu Jul 05, 2018 2:51 pm

    As part of the 11th Army Corps in the Kaliningrad region, a separate tank battalion appeared

    https://bmpd.livejournal.com/3261845.html
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    Re: Russia Tank Force: Present and Future (Numbers)

    Post  Rodion_Romanovic on Mon Aug 06, 2018 5:57 pm

    About T-80 modernisation

    https://nationalinterest.org/blog/buzz/russias-t-80-tank-no-joke-27086
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    Re: Russia Tank Force: Present and Future (Numbers)

    Post  franco on Sun Aug 12, 2018 12:53 pm

    Periodically on the Internet or in the press, the issue of the number of tanks in the Army of the RF Armed Forces is being discussed, and now there are tanks in the Airborne Troops, and they are also part of the Navy's Marine Corps (as part of the Navy Coastal Troops and were, in fact, conventional motorized rifle brigades , but listed for the Navy due to the geography of its permanent deployment). No, everyone knows that, along with long-term storage, Russia's tank reserve is such that it will be enough for us, our friends-allies, and our potential adversaries. But there are many different variants of evaluation about the tanks in the linear parts, and very often they refer to different calculations of the beginning of the 2010s, when the formations and parts of the frame were liquidated, and divisions were transformed into brigades. But since that time a lot of water has flowed both in the rivers and from the stands. The RF Armed Forces gradually formed brigades, then they began to form divisions.

    Let's try to estimate how much we should have about machines in parts, based on sample states and their total number. The exact organizational and staff structures for each unit or unit in our country are secret, we have long been de facto in the CFE Treaty, so there is no exact information on this matter. But the typical OLS are more or less known, so you can estimate approximately what we will do.

    To begin with, we will open the Military Balance 2018, published by the Stockholm SIPRI. Frankly speaking, even in the description of the NATO armies sins with mistakes and oddities, but when it comes to Russia, it seems that although the Vikings have become history, like berserkers, the art of consuming fly agarics in Sweden has not been forgotten. Although the endless searches by the Swedes of the submarines of the Russian Navy, the underwater means of the saboteurs movement, even of some bottom caterpillar vehicles (there was something like this in the Swedish media in due time), also leads to these thoughts - without the fly agarics obviously also does not do.

    According to this reference book, the Russian Armed Forces have 2,780 tanks in combat composition, but what is written there is inaccurate information, can be seen from what tanks and how many. For example, the T-90 and the T-90A have 350 cars, but in fact, they have much less troops in their forces, and even T-90, except for a few cars in combat training groups and training units, mostly stand on the central reserve bases (for SIPRI this is noted, but the total figure of 550 machines does not correspond to the truth). T-72B3 and T-72B3 UBH - a total of 880 vehicles, in their opinion, although this modernization comes with a large number of UVZ in 2011, in some years and up to 300 cars reached, and 200 per year handed over, and all no way they have in the directory to 1000 at least nedotyetet, although there have long been more than 1000 in fact. However, another year or two ago they had everything in the directory even worse, there both the T-55 and T-62 were in reserve, for example. Which have been removed from the armament for a long time (although, of course, the reserve bases are still present, from where the same T-62 and T-62M get to Syria).

    Some time ago, the American Insitute for the Study of War (ISW), the Institute for the Study of War, released the report Russia's Military Posture - Ground Forces Order of Battle. From there, we will take information about the number (for about the second half of last year) and the dislocation of the airborne troops of the RF Armed Forces. Dislocation does not particularly interest us, but the compounds themselves are. It should be understood that this directory is also inaccurate, for example, in a number of divisions, the fourth military (combined-arms - tank and motorized rifle) regiments were already being formed, and there they are not indicated, there is not anything at all, but this is not generally true and important. When counting, we will take as a basis that in individual motorized rifle brigades the tank battalion has 41 tanks - 4 companies with 3 platoons each with 3 tanks plus a company tank each and plus a battalion command battalion. And in tank battalions of tank regiments of divisions and separate tank brigades - 31 tanks, in tank battalions of motorized rifle regiments of divisions we will use as a basis 41-tank staff (although variants are possible). Although there are also reports that we switched to 42-tank and 32-tank The staffs are another tank in the battalion's management. In the tank brigade of tank battalions 3, motorized rifle -1, in the motorized rifle brigade on the contrary, in the tank regiment also 3 tank and motorized rifle battalion, in the motorized rifle brigade on the contrary. The motorized rifle division has 3 motorized infantry regiments and a tank regiment (we are only talking about combined-arms regiments, artillery and anti-aircraft missile systems and all the rest of the economy are not of interest to us now), the tank division is the other way round. Speech, of course, about the ordinary states, there are also the so-called heavy ones. Accordingly, 41 (42?) Tanks leave the tanks in the motorized rifle brigade or regiment, in the tank 94 (97?), As well as in the tank regiment, in the motorized rifle division - 217 (223?) Tanks, in the tank 323 (333) tanks. It is clear that the division command also has tanks, but we will not count them. Of course, this is in the full-blooded pre-formed to the end of the division, but in reality somewhere there are 3 regiments, somewhere 3 regiments and a tank battalion, but in the process of formation there is already a regiment, and somewhere, maybe even 2 regiments still. But this, of course, is a temporary moment, and we do not take it into account.

    So, according to the aforementioned report, there are now 12 armies (1 of them tank) and 4 army corps in the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation and the Naval Forces of the Navy. In the Western Military District (ZVO) of this number, 3 armies (1 GVTA, 20 GV OA, 6 OA) and 1 Corps (11 GV AK in the Kaliningrad Defense District), to the combined operational-strategic command "North" (Northern fleet) includes 14 AK on the Kola Peninsula, in the Southern Military District (SE) - 3 armies (8 Guards OA, 58 OA, 49 OA) and 1 Corps (22 AK in the Crimea), 2 in the Central Military District Army (2 Guards OA, 41 OA), in the Eastern Military District (VVO) - 4 armies (29 OA, 35 OA, 36 OA, 5 OA) and 1 Corps (68 AK in Sakhalin and Kuriles). As part of the 1st Guards Tank Army, the 4th Guards Tank and 2nd Guards Motorized Rifle Divisions, the 6th Separate Tank Brigade, the 27th Guards Motorized Rifle Brigade (various formations and parts of army and corps kits do not count), totaling 675 ( 695) tanks, subject to the completion of the fourth regiments in 4 gv.td and 2 gv.m.dd, but while they are only being formed. In the 20 Guards Combined-Arms Army - 144 gv. and 435 (446) tanks, as long as the divisions are fully completed, but it is known that until the fourth pair of regiments there is only being formed in both divisions. However, it is possible that 144 gv. MTS will have not one tank regiment, but two - on the basis of a separate tank battalion a tank regiment is being formed, and meanwhile, the 228th TP in the division is already available. That is, the division will be something like 150 msd

    In the north and north-west of the ZVO, with tanks much worse, in 6 OA there are only 2 motorized rifle brigades (138 and 25 OMBR), so there are 82 (84) tanks for the army, and the army general, small. On the other hand, in potential adversaries there is only a superpower of the Baltic states with three NATO battalions inside and yes Finland. True, it seems that in the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation, when forming divisions, they re-approach the issue in such a way that clearly in the end each army will have at least one MDA, so it is possible that in the next few years such a decision will also be possible in this case. In the Kaliningrad 11 Guards AK only two motorized rifle brigades (OMSBR), 7 Guards and 79 Guards, total 82 (84) tanks. In the nearby area of ​​the 336th Guards Brigade of the Marine Corps of the Baltic Fleet, tanks have not yet appeared, but for sure in the next couple of years, first a company will appear, and then a battalion - a similar process is already under way in the Pacific Fleet. So far, no one has formed any divisions, but such a decision seems to be asking for in the future. However, soon only a fairy tale is telling from the rostrum, but things are usually much slower. In total, we have 1275 (1305) tanks in the line of line connections, although in reality they are still fewer. If you add there the 14th AK from the USC "North", while there is definitely a tank battalion of 200 OMBR, it may or will be in the 80th Arctic OMBR, there are no tanks yet in 61 brigade of marines, but they will definitely appear soon. So far, we count 82 (84 tanks).

    In the TSO, according to the same report, consisting of 2 Guards. OA now 3 motorized rifle brigades, under numbers 21, 15 and 30. But they are all different. 21 ombra from Totsky, seemingly, the only one in the RF Armed Forces (perhaps not), formed according to the so-called. "heavy state" with 2 tank and 2 motorized rifle battalions, it leaves 82 (84) tanks, but 15 ombrells is peacekeeping, the tank battalion in it, it seems, is absent, that up to 30 osmbr, newly formed to replace the seized after the war on Ukraine from this army units and formations (which became the basis for the formation of 144 MSD) - there is no information on its composition, except that in it the reconnaissance battalion on the Syrian tracks seems to have been put on various light vehicles, beginning with the Tigrov-M and ending with "Patriots". Probably the tank battalion is still there. In general, conditionally we will record for the army 123 (124) tanks. According to the same document, the newly formed 90 Guards Tank Division is a part of 41 OA (previously there were reports that it remained district subordination, who is right - it is not known), together with the 74th Guards. osmbr, 35 gv. omsbr and the 55th mountain brigade from Kyzyl in Tuva. Tanks in the Tuva "mountaineers" do not, they do not need them, but all the others have. There also includes 201 military base in Tajikistan, in which there are now three motorized rifle regiments, seemingly, tanks are everywhere. In total, a fairly strong fist in 534 (543) tanks, if all is correct, of course. Total for the CVO is 657 (667) machines.

    In the VVO, in spite of 4 armies and corps, divisions, namely they are the most "rich" in heavy armored vehicles, have not yet been formed, but only for the time being. The army itself is far from being all that can be considered deployed, in a number of them the combined arms brigades are given by God 1-2 and with deployed brigades and regiments of the army kit. In general, this situation is understandable - China at the moment is not an enemy to us, but a friend and ally, and potential enemies are increasingly in Europe, in NATO. In all of these 4 armies and 1 corps, there are 10 motorized rifle brigades, 1 tank brigade and 18 machine-gun artillery division in the Kuriles (reinforced, but tank units are also present in it, without them), that is, about 600 tanks. In addition, in the Pacific Fleet, there are no tanks yet in the 155th Marine Brigade, but soon there will be a company deployed in the 40th Marine Corps Brigade, but it will be reorganized into a battalion, which we also count.

    In the Southern Military District, there are now 42 gv in the 58 OA. mdd, 19 and 136 ombar, 4 Guards military base in South Ossetia. 42 Evpatoria division is now fully deployed, but according to researchers from the United States, there is no tank regiment in it or it is deployed. In total, 340 (350) machines are produced. In 49 OA, as many as 2 combined arms brigades, 205 and 34 mountain, in which tanks are not available. Where more interesting is the newly formed 8 Guards. OA, formed with a clear sight of the possible coercion to the world of various shrewd Cossacks with the territory neighboring the Donbass republics, who adore reasoning about how they "restrain Russian fascism" without forgetting, of course, shouting Nazi slogans and "greeting the Sun" with a characteristic gesture. It has 150 Idritsko-Berlin MTS, consisting of 2 tank and 2 motorized rifle regiments, which are, as it is claimed, formed in heavy states. That is, it has both tanks and artillery in it, not only more conventional but also much more. If we assume (and this is most likely the case) that the states of this division are repeating the OCS of the so-called "Ogarkov" heavy missile systems, successfully overclocked under Gorbachev, then tanks can eventually be 400 at the end of formation. In those battalions there were 4 companies in each battalion (in msb 3 and 1 tr, in reverse on the reverse), with all tank companies being 13-tank, and battalions, even in tank regiments, had 40 tanks each. And at the battalion level there were 122-mm SAU 2S1 and much more useful, and in the shelves 152mm 2C3 served in artillery regiments, which were in artillery regiments in ordinary divisions. Also in the same army is 20 gv. omsbr from Volgograd (if Americans are not mistaken). In the Crimean 22 AK, a combined-arms brigade with tanks is still one - at number 126 of Perevalnoye, called the coastal defense brigade, but in fact it is a motorized rifle, just naval, like everything in the Crimea, subordination. This is another 41 (42 tanks). A total of 860-876 tanks are delivered to the South East Fleet, if all units are completed, and estimates for 150 divisions more or less coincide with reality.

    A total of 3475-3530 vehicles are produced in all districts. In reality, there are fewer of them, for the above reasons - not all connections have been completed, on the other hand, training centers and military schools, where there are more than one hundred tanks, we also do not consider, like much else. And, of course, tanks are not taken into account in bases for the storage and repair of military equipment (BHiRVT), that is, bases for the formation of regiments and brigades of the first stage of mobilization (everything else is already formed on the basis of equipment from the central reserve bases). These BHiRWT are now being reorganized into so-called CAMRs (centers for ensuring the mobilization), in fact, this is the same basis, but with the training and other base for ensuring the activity of reservists of permanent reserve, which was recently officially formalized, and this is a very good and long overdue solution. We do not take into account the bases of the dual-basing system, where we keep sets of equipment for relocating light connections from the interior of the country, and the central reserve bases themselves - after all, we considered combat vehicles. So in the sum would come out about 15 thousand cars, maybe less, 12-13 thousand.

    At the same time, it must be said that the formation of divisions will continue in the near future. So, according to media reports, the formation of three MSDs (possibly less, still) at the base of 19, 20 and 136 OMBR will begin in the South-East. There were reports of the creation of a "coastal defense" division in the North, perhaps even two - on the Kola Peninsula and in Chukotka. The formation of divisions and beyond the Urals begins, for example, in the 5th Krasnoznamennaya OA in Primorye, the 127th Red Banner is formed. Each msd means an increase in the order of 176 or more tanks (this is if it is formed on the basis of one motorized rifle brigade, but if two of them - the increase will be less significant). It is clear that with this deployment of units of the Ministry of Defense was ready to abandon the previously declared thesis about getting rid of a variety of tanks and to reinstate the T-80BB tanks with repair and minimal modernization, while simultaneously launching the modernization program of their fleet in T-80BVM. Tanks need a lot, and still need a lot of personnel, especially officers. And with the release of young officers there are problems - a really normal number of graduates is only expected, before this, officers are issued that have been enrolled in a small set in the school. Of course, this is not the situation before the Great Patriotic War, when 30 mechanized corps was formed, and a shortage before the war in them reached tens of thousands of posts. But we are not in a situation like before the war. Although it is clear that the RF Armed Forces are gradually unfolding, but this is not of a mobilization nature. The situation in the world has simply changed - priorities, goals, tasks, and requirements to the structure and numbers, including the tank fleet, have changed.

    In addition, we forgot about the Airborne Forces, and in fact there are also formed 6 tank companies (in each of the 2 assault and assault divisions and 4 landing assault brigades), the companies in the divisions are deployed in battalions, in brigades, seemingly, still remain companies or then they will also become battalions. It's more than a hundred tanks.

    A lot of this or a little - more than three thousand tanks in the line of linear parts? This is a lot, considering that even the US Army has only 10 tank brigades with 87 tanks each, 3 such brigades in the National Guard and several hundred (maximum) tanks in the ILC. And about the various European "great powers" and say nothing: except for the Poles, as well as the Greeks and the Turks (whose almost completely obsolete tank fleets are aimed at each other in general), the European powers for the happiness of having two hundred cars in the ranks. France has 200 cars, Germany has 225 (there is a plan to deploy up to 328), Britain has less than 200, and so on. And there are also parks with 32-40 cars, such members in NATO are the absolute majority. This does not apply to the real combat readiness of these units, formations and armies in these countries. As well as comparing the technical level of all vehicles that are in service in the RF Armed Forces or NATO countries. But this is no longer the topic of this material.
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    Re: Russia Tank Force: Present and Future (Numbers)

    Post  George1 on Sun Aug 12, 2018 3:37 pm

    So T-72B3s are 880 to 1000?
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    Post  franco on Sun Aug 12, 2018 5:45 pm

    George1 wrote:So  T-72B3s are 880 to 1000?

    No, he says that is what foreign sources are claiming. It was ~1,000 at the end of 2016. Translation makes a murky subject as clear as mud Smile
    200-300 tanks are being upgraded (T-72B3, T-80BVM and T-90AM) or built (T-90M and T-14) per year.

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