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    Russian Military Bases Abroad

    Post  sepheronx on Fri Oct 30, 2009 5:06 pm

    I know there was talk about placing naval bases for Russia and logistical locations in specific areas in the world.  For instance, one in Syria (wich if I am correct, they are currently updating), one in Vietnam, and possibly in a couple of other countries (most likely Venezuela/Cuba and possibly Lybia).

    Any word of it?

    Cause I know Russia is possibly opening up a aircraft logistics in Bolivia.  That is how Russia could obtain a lot of influence as well as funds from additional countries.  Provide logistic capabilities of not just yourself but for allies and customers.

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    Re: Russian Military Bases Abroad

    Post  Vladimir79 on Fri Oct 30, 2009 6:32 pm

    I heard awhile back work was being done to prepare Tartus Syria. We will probably end up attacking Ukraine so we would only need one outside base.

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    Re: Russian Military Bases Abroad

    Post  sepheronx on Sun Nov 08, 2009 9:43 am

    Vladimir79 wrote:I heard awhile back work was being done to prepare Tartus Syria. We will probably end up attacking Ukraine so we would only need one outside base.

    But it would be good to at least have naval ships where they are able to react in any possible situation outside of its own borders. Vietnam, Lybia and Cuba/Venezuela would be good.

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    Russia requests use of Cyprus airbase

    Post  Cyberspec on Sun Jun 23, 2013 11:33 pm

    Russia and Cyprus are preparing an agreement on the use of Russian air base "Andreas Papandreou" in Paphos, according to Cyprus-based newspaper  Philelef-theros.


    the agreement was reached during a meeting of Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov and his Cypriot colleague Ioannis Kasoulides in St. Petersburg. The agreement also allows Russian ships to refuel at the port of Limassol.
    The agreement will be signed during the visit of the President of Cyprus Nikos Anastasiadis in Moscow.



    Cyprus has agreed in principle to grant a Russian request for use of a military airbase in Paphos, it emerged on Saturday.
    Moscow has filed an official request to be allowed use of the Andreas Papandreou base, reports said.
    Speaking on state radio, Foreign Minister Ioannis Kasoulides said the request will be treated in the same way as with other friendly countries.
    Facilities at the base will be granted to Russian military aircraft in cases of emergency and under conditions that will be agreed, Kasoulides said.
    The facilities will not be granted on a permanent basis, reports said.
    The agreement will not grant Russia more facilities than those afforded to other countries, the minister said.
    Russia has already secured facilities for its warships in Cypriot ports.
    http://cyprus-mail.com/2013/06/22/russia-requests-use-of-cyprus-airbase/


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    Re: Russian Military Bases Abroad

    Post  GarryB on Mon Jun 24, 2013 10:49 am

    This is good news...


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    Re: Russian Military Bases Abroad

    Post  Viktor on Wed Nov 27, 2013 2:01 pm

    Apparently USA mada a pressure on Cyprus not to lend bases to Russia

    Media: Cyprus was caught between two fires after a request to lease Russian airbase

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    Re: Russian Military Bases Abroad

    Post  Regular on Wed Nov 27, 2013 4:47 pm

    What is the issue with USA on this? Even today USA wants to back Russia in the corner.

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    Re: Russian Military Bases Abroad

    Post  George1 on Wed Nov 27, 2013 4:55 pm

    Regular wrote:What is the issue with USA on this? Even today USA wants to back Russia in the corner.
    Cyprus belongs to the west, it has British military bases and its independence is under British guarantee by the constitution of 1960

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    Re: Russian Military Bases Abroad

    Post  sepheronx on Thu Nov 28, 2013 3:14 pm

    Further proof that USA is of no friend to Russians and are to be blamed for the cold relationship. But many Amerucans will believe it is that they are just a bunch of godless, homo hating commies.

    Pathetic, especially from a country that so calls prides itself being morally superior.

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    Re: Russian Military Bases Abroad

    Post  Viktor on Mon Jan 13, 2014 5:45 pm

    Excellent !!!

    Cyprus will provide Russian airbase and port for warships

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    Russia in negotiations on military bases abroad

    Post  sepheronx on Thu Feb 27, 2014 3:15 am

    Russia Seeks Several Military Bases Abroad – Defense Minister

    MOSCOW, February 26 (RIA Novosti) – Russia is planning to expand its permanent military presence outside its borders by placing military bases in a number of foreign countries, Defense Minister Sergei Shoigu said Wednesday.
    Shoigu said the list includes Vietnam, Cuba, Venezuela, Nicaragua, the Seychelles, Singapore and several other countries.
    The talks are under way, and we are close to signing the relevant documents,” Shoigu told reporters in Moscow.
    The minister added that the negotiations cover not only military bases but also visits to ports in such countries on favorable conditions as well as the opening of refueling sites for Russian strategic bombers on patrol.
    Moscow currently has only one naval base outside the former Soviet Union – in Tartus, Syria, but the fate of this naval facility is uncertain because of the ongoing civil war in that country.
    Post-Soviet Russia closed a large naval base in Vietnam and a radar base in Cuba in 2002 due to financial constraints.
    However, Russia has started reviving its navy and strategic aviation since mid-2000s, seeing them as a tool to project the Russian image abroad and to protect its national interests around the globe.
    Now, Moscow needs to place such military assets in strategically important regions of the world to make them work effectively toward the goal of expanding Russia’s global influence.

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    Re: Russian Military Bases Abroad

    Post  GarryB on Thu Feb 27, 2014 8:21 am

    Makes sense.

    Previously the russian navy and air force would no have the resources to regularly visit a foreign country let alone need a base there, but as their military improves they need to expand their operations... which means they need places to stay the night so to speak to reduce travel costs.

    It is also a good way to improve relations with ex allies.


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    Re: Russian Military Bases Abroad

    Post  macedonian on Thu Feb 27, 2014 8:46 am

    Yes, I've read the RIA Novosti article yesterday.
    Excellent news, hope they go through with it.

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    Re: Russian Military Bases Abroad

    Post  Werewolf on Thu Feb 27, 2014 9:39 am

    Prepare for Cuba crisis shitstorm and hypocrisy from USA.

    They obviously will see it as a threat to US security when Russia is at Cuba but when US overthrows and installs puppets in lot of ex-soviet countries its for "muh freedöm and demöcrazy".

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    Re: Russian Military Bases Abroad

    Post  collegeboy16 on Thu Feb 27, 2014 9:51 am

    they are prolly afraid of operatives from russky langley operating from such bases than anything else.
    Which reminds me, of one of the things russia should learn from its archenemies its how to wage economic warfare.
    Manipulating economies through intel work is a very, very efficient way of weakening your enemies.

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    Re: Russian Military Bases Abroad

    Post  magnumcromagnon on Fri Feb 28, 2014 3:59 am

    GarryB wrote:Makes sense.

    Previously the russian navy and air force would no have the resources to regularly visit a foreign country let alone need a base there, but as their military improves they need to expand their operations... which means they need places to stay the night so to speak to reduce travel costs.

    It is also a good way to improve relations with ex allies.

    The Russian foreign bases that make the most sense would be Cuba, Venezuela, Nicaragua and possibly Algeria (which wasn't mentioned, I just threw it out there).

    Cuba because the U.S. has struggled for decades to topple Castro with over 600 failed assassination attempts, and the location is dream real estate. Venezuela because they have one of the largest proven crude oil reserves and they have a govt. hostile towards the Pentagon, which is why they want to topple the Venezuelan govt. Nicaragua because the Chinese are building a canal that will rival the Panama canal, there's good reason why their building it...because the Pentagon toppled the Panamanian govt., dissolved their national military in the late 1980's and installed a puppet govt. with a mercenary military (that's not loyal to the people of Panama) so they could control the Panama Canal... The Pentagon will probably attempt to topple the Nicaraguan govt. to take control of that. Algeria because if Syria ever falls, Russia will need a base in the Middle East to replace that.

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    Re: Russian Military Bases Abroad

    Post  collegeboy16 on Fri Feb 28, 2014 6:11 am

    magnumcromagnon wrote:

    The Russian foreign bases that make the most sense would be Cuba, Venezuela, Nicaragua and possibly Algeria (which wasn't mentioned, I just threw it out there).

    Cuba because the U.S. has struggled for decades to topple Castro with over 600 failed assassination attempts, and the location is dream real estate. Venezuela because they have one of the largest proven crude oil reserves and they have a govt. hostile towards the Pentagon, which is why they want to topple the Venezuelan govt. Nicaragua because the Chinese are building a canal that will rival the Panama canal, there's good reason why their building it...because the Pentagon toppled the Panamanian govt., dissolved their national military in the late 1980's and installed a puppet govt. with a mercenary military (that's not loyal to the people of Panama) so they could control the Panama Canal... The Pentagon will probably attempt to topple the Nicaraguan govt. to take control of that. Algeria because if Syria ever falls, Russia will need a base in the Middle East to replace that.
    Vietnam and maybe thailand too. A base in vietnam is good since its a good ally. A base in thailand would be good to monitor the malacca strait. Also argentina since they would allow one base out of spite. A base in IOR is also nice. However it is important that when building bases russia doesnt step into its allies toes ie spheres of interest.

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    Re: Russian Military Bases Abroad

    Post  GarryB on Fri Feb 28, 2014 6:53 am

    It is important for Russia to have bases in the southern hemisphere for the purposes of satellite tracking and also for access to Antarctica... bases in South Africa and Argentina would both be useful.

    Selling Argentina a few Su-35s might be very interesting too...  Twisted Evil Twisted Evil 


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    Re: Russian Military Bases Abroad

    Post  magnumcromagnon on Fri Feb 28, 2014 7:37 pm

    GarryB wrote:It is important for Russia to have bases in the southern hemisphere for the purposes of satellite tracking and also for access to Antarctica... bases in South Africa and Argentina would both be useful.

    Selling Argentina a few Su-35s might be very interesting too...   Twisted Evil Twisted Evil 

    South Africa makes sense because they have large quantities of natural resources as well as a Russian friendly govt. (BRICS) I also forgot to mention that a Naval base in Algeria would be great because cruisers armed with naval S-500's could seriously counter Britain and France's nuclear stock pile, and I think Russia should set up a military deal with China to share responsibilities of protecting mutual allies and assets, Russia and China both could have naval/airforce bases in Cuba and Venezuela, China could have a base in Nicaragua to protect their canal, Russia could have one in Algeria to counter European NATO, China could have a base in South Africa to protect it's African interests, and Russia could have another in Argentina to access Antarctica.

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    Re: Russian Military Bases Abroad

    Post  sepheronx on Fri Feb 28, 2014 9:36 pm

    magnumcromagnon wrote:
    GarryB wrote:It is important for Russia to have bases in the southern hemisphere for the purposes of satellite tracking and also for access to Antarctica... bases in South Africa and Argentina would both be useful.

    Selling Argentina a few Su-35s might be very interesting too...   Twisted Evil Twisted Evil 

    South Africa makes sense because they have large quantities of natural resources as well as a Russian friendly govt. (BRICS) I also forgot to mention that a Naval base in Algeria would be great because cruisers armed with naval S-500's could seriously counter Britain and France's nuclear stock pile, and I think Russia should set up a military deal with China to share responsibilities of protecting mutual allies and assets, Russia and China both could have naval/airforce bases in Cuba and Venezuela, China could have a base in Nicaragua to protect their canal, Russia could have one in Algeria to counter European NATO, China could have a base in South Africa to protect it's African interests, and Russia could have another in Argentina to access Antarctica.

    I agree. If Russia shares the base, they can share the cost, which would make it cheap for both China and Russia. As both of China's and Russia's politics are co-aligned in most cases, then it shouldn't be hard. An airforce base in Nicaragua, a naval base in Cuba with a repair/supply port in Venezuela and a Naval base in Algeria would allow both countries to have great access to the rest of the world more or less.

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    Re: Russian Military Bases Abroad

    Post  magnumcromagnon on Sat Mar 01, 2014 4:54 am

    sepheronx wrote:
    magnumcromagnon wrote:
    GarryB wrote:It is important for Russia to have bases in the southern hemisphere for the purposes of satellite tracking and also for access to Antarctica... bases in South Africa and Argentina would both be useful.

    Selling Argentina a few Su-35s might be very interesting too...   Twisted Evil Twisted Evil 

    South Africa makes sense because they have large quantities of natural resources as well as a Russian friendly govt. (BRICS) I also forgot to mention that a Naval base in Algeria would be great because cruisers armed with naval S-500's could seriously counter Britain and France's nuclear stock pile, and I think Russia should set up a military deal with China to share responsibilities of protecting mutual allies and assets, Russia and China both could have naval/airforce bases in Cuba and Venezuela, China could have a base in Nicaragua to protect their canal, Russia could have one in Algeria to counter European NATO, China could have a base in South Africa to protect it's African interests, and Russia could have another in Argentina to access Antarctica.

    I agree.  If Russia shares the base, they can share the cost, which would make it cheap for both China and Russia.  As both of China's and Russia's politics are co-aligned in most cases, then it shouldn't be hard.  An airforce base in Nicaragua, a naval base in Cuba with a repair/supply port in Venezuela and a Naval base in Algeria would allow both countries to have great access to the rest of the world more or less.

    Russians have the hardware, Chinese have the money, and maybe an additional base in  Iran but of course India already controls a port in Iran, may'be India could have a naval base to protect it's interests in Iran which brings up a serious question...How can the Pentagon seriously think that they can get away with an unilateral attack on Iran when there's no less than 5 nuclear powers (Russia, China, India, Pakistan, North Korea) who have vested interests in Iran and would strongly oppose such an action?

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    Re: Russian Military Bases Abroad

    Post  Viktor on Mon Mar 24, 2014 10:26 pm

    Nice   Very Happy  thumbsup 

    Argentina to Host Russian Military Bases While America Sleeps

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    Re: Russian Military Bases Abroad

    Post  TR1 on Mon Mar 24, 2014 10:35 pm

    What in god's name is the point of us having bases in Argentina?

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    Re: Russian Military Bases Abroad

    Post  KomissarBojanchev on Mon Mar 24, 2014 10:44 pm

    closer to the US's backyard.

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    Re: Russian Military Bases Abroad

    Post  magnumcromagnon on Mon Mar 24, 2014 10:54 pm

    TR1 wrote:What in god's name is the point of us having bases in Argentina?

    You know the rush for Arctic sea Oil/LNG? There's a strong possibility that we could find massive oil fields in the Antarctic as well!

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