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    Re: Russian Navy: Status & News #2

    Post  Austin on Sat Jul 04, 2015 8:26 am

    Any pictures of Pr 20386 corvette ?

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    Re: Russian Navy: Status & News #2

    Post  Morpheus Eberhardt on Sat Jul 04, 2015 9:10 am

    Austin wrote:Any pictures of Pr 20386 corvette ?

    Here are a few drawings.









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    Re: Russian Navy: Status & News #2

    Post  Austin on Sat Jul 04, 2015 9:21 am

    Thanks , This looks good more stealthy approach at cost of lower armament.

    How many 20386 do they plan to build ?

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    Re: Russian Navy: Status & News #2

    Post  TheArmenian on Sat Jul 04, 2015 10:13 am

    Arctic patrol ship to be built by the Pella shipyard.

    A 6800 T and 114 m long package that gives you an icebreaking hull, a helicopter and CLUB missile containers.




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    Re: Russian Navy: Status & News #2

    Post  GarryB on Sat Jul 04, 2015 1:27 pm

    Will it be more deadlier than LRASM-A ? US scrapped LRASM-B projekt .

    It will likely be Zircon... a hypersonic missile...

    You are actually describing a very old reality - witness the Bismarck. But it is not really a question of "large ships", it is a question of "second best" when it comes to naval warfare. In naval warfare, there is little value in being second best. One needs to be preeminent. The reality for Russia is the US Navy, not to mention the addition of allied navies, is vastly superior to the Russian navy in numbers. Large Russian surface ships would be sunk very quickly in an all out confrontation, the only impediment to doing so would be the risk of nuclear escalation. Second best navies always get the most bang for their buck asymmetrically (witness German submarine warfare in both world wars). Russia should allocate its naval expenditures accordingly.

    The British navy dominated in the European theatre because the German Navy lacked the big ships and carriers to compete... in the Pacific the British navy was at a disadvantage because of distances and had to be rather careful with its large ships due to a lack of carriers.

    Russia can substitute land air power to support naval air power and have a powerful coastal navy that could easily over power the US Navy in certain places in a real war... Russia just needs to cut certain shipping routes and the US will be in trouble.

    They will need carriers to project power and to defend the surface vessels they already have... a few large ships to operate with their carriers makes their carriers vastly safer and more powerful... I would rate naval PAK FA to be superior to anything any western country could put on a carrier...

    Arctic patrol ship to be built by the Pella shipyard.

    I wonder if it will be fitted with a laser ice cutter... pirat


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    New Russian Arctic paint

    Post  JohninMK on Sat Jul 04, 2015 6:15 pm

    Russia's Techmash is developing a new paint for its Arctic-bound military ships and submarines which feature upgraded stealth characteristics. Russia's Polymer Material Scientific Research Institute, part of Techmash group, is developing a new paint for its strategic cruisers and submarines in the Arctic. Russian ships currently use imported paints made in Finland, China and the US. The newly developed paints, including Argof, are considerably cheaper than their imported analogues and meets the Ministry of Defense's requirements for noise insulation and reduced radar visibility.

    "We are currently developing a paint with improved characteristics, for ships which will work in the conditions of the Far North," the institute's chief Andrei Golubev said. Golubev added that this includes paint for strategic cruisers deployed in the Arctic; it is manufactured at the Ural plant in the Russian city of Solikamsk.


    Read more: http://sputniknews.com/russia/20150704/1024203715.html#ixzz3ewKnVSIk

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    Re: Russian Navy: Status & News #2

    Post  Book. on Sat Jul 04, 2015 8:50 pm

    TheArmenian wrote:Arctic patrol ship to be built by the Pella shipyard.

    A 6800 T and 114 m long package that gives you an icebreaking hull, a helicopter and CLUB missile containers.

    Look top heavy. I like it

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    Re: Russian Navy: Status & News #2

    Post  PapaDragon on Sat Jul 04, 2015 8:58 pm

    The new tanker for the Navy to "Eastern shipyard"

    "Vostochnaya Verf" (Vladivostok) is building a small sea tanker project 03182.

    http://sdelanounas.ru/blogs/64652/


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    Re: Russian Navy: Status & News #2

    Post  PapaDragon on Sat Jul 04, 2015 9:02 pm


    Project 21820 "Dugong" (Denis Davydov) command bridge


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    Re: Russian Navy: Status & News #2

    Post  Cyberspec on Sun Jul 05, 2015 1:53 am

    Great contributions guys....especially the Armenian and Papa Dragon

    Here's something interesting from the 'Airbase' forum....(Multifunction?) MFI Radar System (X, S and L band)



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    Re: Russian Navy: Status & News #2

    Post  TheArmenian on Sun Jul 05, 2015 8:34 am

    Details of the PR. 20386










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    Re: Russian Navy: Status & News #2

    Post  medo on Sun Jul 05, 2015 11:00 am

    TheArmenian wrote:Arctic patrol ship to be built by the Pella shipyard.

    A 6800 T and 114 m long package that gives you an icebreaking hull, a helicopter and CLUB missile containers.




    Nice one. I would expect, it will have at least two Palmas for air defense.

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    Re: Russian Navy: Status & News #2

    Post  Viktor on Sun Jul 05, 2015 4:28 pm

    Nice thumbsup

    The Russian Navy will receive 18 small missile ships of the project 22800, "golovnik" lay in 2016 - Commander of the Navy


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    Re: Russian Navy: Status & News #2

    Post  jhelb on Mon Jul 06, 2015 2:13 pm

    First look at the future Russian aircraft carrier at IMDS, St Petersburg



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    Re: Russian Navy: Status & News #2

    Post  PapaDragon on Wed Jul 08, 2015 4:33 am

    Concept of new naval helicopter from Kamov. (Should this go here or in air force tread? dunno )

    http://military-informant.com/?p=25706


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    Re: Russian Navy: Status & News #2

    Post  Book. on Sun Jul 12, 2015 6:06 pm

    Russia bringing back Cold War mini-subs, report says
    By James RogersPublished July 11, 2015


    Russia is reportedly bringing back a fleet of Cold War-era mini-submarines, a move that could ramp up tensions with the West.

    Moscow is set to bring back the Cold War-era Piranha-class midget subs as part of a $350 million military spending spree, according to the U.K.’s Daily Express. An unnamed source told the newspaper that Russian leader Vladimir Putin is “breathing life into many old programmes and thinks subs are an effective way of getting what he wants militarily.”

    Relations between Russia and the West have sunk to post-Cold War lows after Moscow's annexation of Ukraine's Crimean Peninsula and its support for a pro-Russian insurgency in eastern Ukraine.

    Amid these simmering tensions, Russian submarine activities are under close scrutiny, particularly in the Baltic. Last year the Swedish military launched a major hunt for a suspected underwater intruder in the Stockholm archipelago, its largest anti-sub operation since the end of the Cold War. Defense experts cited Russia as the likely culprit, although Moscow denied its involvement.

    The incident nonetheless prompted speculation that a Russian Piranha sub was involved.

    Described as virtually undetectable, the covert subs can lay mines and fire torpedoes. The diesel-electric submarines displace a mere 390 tons when submerged and can carry nine crew and six combat divers, according to the U.S. Naval Institute.

    The Piranha submarines could pose a “significant threat” to the U.K. if they enter British waters, according to the source interviewed by the Daily Express.

    However, Dmitry Gorenburg, an analyst at naval research specialist CNA, is skeptical about the prospect of Piranha subs resurfacing in Russia's military. "The two remaining subs of this class have been out of service for more than 15 years," he told FoxNews.com, in an e-mail, adding that it would be a major task to refurbish them. "The subs were originally withdrawn because they were seen as difficult to use and too large for their purpose," he added.

    Gorenburg believes that Russia is more likely to build new midget subs at some point in the future, rather then revamping old ones.

    Washington has been keeping a close eye on Moscow’s military moves. On Thursday President Obama's nominee to lead the military's Joint Chiefs of Staff warned that Russia poses the world's greatest threat to U.S. national security. "If you want to talk about a nation that could pose an existential threat to the United States, I'd have to point to Russia. And if you look at their behavior, it's nothing short of alarming," Marine Gen. Joseph Dunford told senators at his confirmation hearing.

    Other senior military figures have voiced their concerns about Russia. In April Adm. William Gortney, head of U.S. Northern Command, warned that Russia’s modern military is now “far more capable” than that of the Soviet Union, saying Moscow is “messaging” the United States that “they’re a global power.” Gortney disclosed to Congress in March that Russian heavy bombers flew more "out-of-area patrols" last year than in any year "since the Cold War." The following month, he affirmed that Russia’s “long-range” flights are rising – and occurring in places they haven’t before, like near Canada, Alaska and the English Channel.

    On July 4 two pairs of Russian bombers flew off the coast of California and Alaska -- forcing the Air Force to scramble fighter jets to intercept both flights, defense officials told Fox News.

    The Russian Embassy in Washington D.C. has not yet responded to a request for comment on this story from FoxNews.com.

    http://www.foxnews.com/tech/2015/07/11/russia-bringing-back-cold-war-mini-subs-report-says/



    Undated photo of the Soviet-era Project 865 Piranha-class submarine. (U.S. Naval Institute)

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