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    Re: Russian Navy: Status & News #2

    Post  Viktor on Wed Jan 15, 2014 12:03 pm

    Austin wrote:Well Thanks , Lets see how much of the 95 Fighting ships and 96 support vessel target they can meet , we are talking around ~ 190 ships by 2020  Shocked 

    Subs included  Very Happy 

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    Re: Russian Navy: Status & News #2

    Post  Austin on Thu Jan 16, 2014 2:11 pm

    Ok I found the exact figure , it is 54 warships , 24 Submarines and 96 Aux vessel by 2020

    http://en.ria.ru/military_news/20130311/179945052/Russian-Navy-to-Receive-24-Subs-54-Warships-by-2020.html

    So total around ~ 175 Vessel all ships and subs included ......not bad if they can achieve it.



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    Re: Russian Navy: Status & News #2

    Post  Cyberspec on Sat Jan 18, 2014 2:10 am

    The Russian Black Sea Fleet will receive Six submarines  as a part of the 636.3 Project until 2016.

    Three submarines will be available to sailors this year.

    These are diesel-electric submarines: "Novorossiysk", "Rostov-on-Don," Stary Oskol." They belong to the third generation class of ships "Varshavyanka" (NATO – Kilo classification).

    Read more: http://voiceofrussia.com/news/2014_01_18/Russian-fleet-to-recieve-powerful-submarines-to-guard-Black-sea-and-Mediterranean-basin-7837/

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    Re: Russian Navy: Status & News #2

    Post  TR1 on Sat Jan 18, 2014 3:44 am

    Man I hate defense journos.

    The Novorosiisk was laid down in 2010, has just been launched, and is not yet commissioned.
    Stary Oskol was laid down 2 years later, has not been launched (and neither has the Rostov, which was laid down in late 2011), and they say all 3 will be commissioned THIS year?

    Bull.

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    Re: Russian Navy: Status & News #2

    Post  TR1 on Sun Jan 19, 2014 10:59 pm

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ahimtOnk4tk

    Good video from Burevestnik. At 3:56 you can see the modern 57mm mount.

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    Re: Russian Navy: Status & News #2

    Post  navyfield on Wed Jan 22, 2014 7:07 pm

    Austin wrote:Well Thanks , Lets see how much of the 95 Fighting ships and 96 support vessel target they can meet , we are talking around ~ 190 ships by 2020  Shocked 
    its a joke ,once they start making real modern equipment youll see how their production stops to a crawl as is shown by newest frigates and destroyers.
    there are just too many narrow spots in production not even ussr style type crash program could help ,maybe they plan to buy more from france and south korea. that would be a good move if done smart.

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    Re: Russian Navy: Status & News #2

    Post  GarryB on Thu Jan 23, 2014 3:24 am

    its a joke ,once they start making real modern equipment youll see how their production stops to a crawl as is shown by newest frigates and destroyers.

    with the massive standardisation regime they have adopted once the first new frigates and destroyers are built things should speed up rapidly... the main delay with the destroyers is the Main SAM battery and the new main gun. Once the bugs are ironed out of those two however they are also deployed on all their new vessels too so they wont delay other projects.


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    Russian Navy Pilot Training Center Completion Delayed To November.

    Post  Flyingdutchman on Thu Jan 23, 2014 8:37 pm

    MOSCOW, December 25 (RIA Novosti) – The Russian navy has pushed back the intended in-service date for a new deck-landing training installation by almost a year for undisclosed reasons, a building contractor involved in the project said Wednesday.
    The facility, known by its Russian acronym NITKA and being built in the Black Sea town of Yeisk, was originally due to enter service this month, the Defense Ministry said as recently as October.
    “The work schedule for NITKA has been delayed to November 2014,” said a management source from a contractor company involved in the project. The source did not say why the project had been delayed, but said it was at the Defense Ministry’s initiative and “was not connected to the state of the project. From our side, it was all ready to hand over in December this year.”
    Russian navy pilots previously used a similar facility nearby in Ukraine’s Crimean Peninsula under a 1997 bilateral agreement, but Moscow told Kiev in September that it would stop using that base.
    The Russian Defense Ministry had previously said it was willing to upgrade the Ukrainian facility.
    A Russian navy Sukhoi Su-25UTG trainer made the first flight from the new Yeisk facility in July to test its ski-jump configuration runway, which simulates the flight deck of Russia’s only aircraft carrier, the Admiral Kuznetsov.
    The navy currently operates Sukhoi Su-33 fighters from the carrier but is in the process of receiving the new Mikoyan MiG-29K, capable of air defense and strike missions.

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    Re: Russian Navy: Status & News #2

    Post  GarryB on Fri Jan 24, 2014 1:18 am

    The optimist that I am thinks the delay of a year might be to install new catapult systems for training to use new carriers and the upgraded K...

    Or it could be that all the radar and communication equipment needs to be upgraded... but I would think they should have already anticipated this and put new radar and sensor equipment in in the first place.

    It really only makes sense to me if they have just decided to go for a cat in the K upgrade which makes it worth while to delay the opening of the new facility while they add it there.

    The added advantage is that it will be installed in a year, but will allow practise and training with the system for quite some time before the upgraded K is back in service so hopefully they will iron out all the kinks is problems with the system.


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    Re: Russian Navy: Status & News #2

    Post  Flyingdutchman on Fri Jan 24, 2014 8:01 am

    GarryB wrote:The optimist that I am thinks the delay of a year might be to install new catapult systems for training to use new carriers and the upgraded K...

    Or it could be that all the radar and communication equipment needs to be upgraded... but I would think they should have already anticipated this and put new radar and sensor equipment in in the first place.

    It really only makes sense to me if they have just decided to go for a cat in the K upgrade which makes it worth while to delay the opening of the new facility while they add it there.

    The added advantage is that it will be installed in a year, but will allow practise and training with the system for quite some time before the upgraded K is back in service so hopefully they will iron out all the kinks is problems with the system.

    That would be awesome!
    Can the mig-29k be launched with cats?

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    Re: Russian Navy: Status & News #2

    Post  TR1 on Fri Jan 24, 2014 9:59 pm


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    Re: Russian Navy: Status & News #2

    Post  Viktor on Sat Jan 25, 2014 1:00 am

    Thats Uglich isnt it? Excellent photo.

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    Re: Russian Navy: Status & News #2

    Post  navyfield on Sun Jan 26, 2014 7:14 pm

    GarryB wrote:
    its a joke ,once they start making real modern equipment youll see how their production stops to a crawl as is shown by newest frigates and destroyers.

    with the massive standardisation regime they have adopted once the first new frigates and destroyers are built things should speed up rapidly... the main delay with the destroyers is the Main SAM battery and the new main gun. Once the bugs are ironed out of those two however they are also deployed on all their new vessels too so they wont delay other projects.
    that story is a massive fraud and you swallowed it .we keep hearing how russians have da best sams in da worrrrrrld , and now problems ... Razz 
    the navy is a case of bad missmanagement and corruption

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    Re: Russian Navy: Status & News #2

    Post  GJ Flanker on Mon Jan 27, 2014 1:29 am

    Could be, but the new ships are coming anyway, with Sigma, new radars and brand new weapons.

    There is no need to hurry to much, better make it right and really useful than something that must be decommissioned only after 10 years in service.

    I know, we all are looking forward to see or read/hear something new but we've got to be patient.

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    Re: Russian Navy: Status & News #2

    Post  GarryB on Mon Jan 27, 2014 9:26 am

    that story is a massive fraud and you swallowed it .we keep hearing how russians have da best sams in da worrrrrrld , and now problems ... Razz
    the navy is a case of bad missmanagement and corruption

    Haters gonna hate...

    The Russians learned from Soviet times that short production runs of single purpose vessels led to very capable ships, but a logistics and training nightmare.

    Unification and standardisation of systems, sensors, weapons, equipment, and propulsion from corvette to carrier means simpler and cheaper and far more potent... with longer production runs and standard parts.

    The west had the best air force in the world... is it a surprise the Soviets developed the best air defences to deal with it?

    Don't answer that... I can guess already what you think.


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    Re: Russian Navy: Status & News #2

    Post  Viktor on Wed Jan 29, 2014 12:47 am

    This news first appeared on interfax military this morning (so disregard Izvestiya)

    Russian submarines will be invisible

    To do this, a new coating must be placed sensors and fiber optic route management server system, as well as active emitters. Material will be formed pezokompozitnye plate, so use a rubber coating hulls of modern submarines impossible, detailed in documents the military. Development will be universal for all boats and will have to work with advanced computer systems for the submarine fleet.


    Technology to create active sonar based coating fabric material using composites should develop within three years - the first samples will be available by the end of 2016. To develop proactive technology protivogidrolokatsionnoy system Minpromotorg willing to spend 200 million rubles.


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    Re: Russian Navy: Status & News #2

    Post  Viktor on Wed Jan 29, 2014 2:33 pm

    Second Russian project 636.3 (Rostov-on-Don) to be launched in May

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    Re: Russian Navy: Status & News #2

    Post  zg18 on Thu Jan 30, 2014 11:56 am

    Just a nice image , a crew of Pacific fleet Slava class cruiser "Varyag" in Mediterranean


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    Re: Russian Navy: Status & News #2

    Post  KomissarBojanchev on Thu Jan 30, 2014 2:11 pm

    Needs...Onyx...silos...

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    Re: Russian Navy: Status & News #2

    Post  zg18 on Fri Jan 31, 2014 4:56 am

    AGI ship SSV-175 "Viktor Leonov" in US backyard , Curaçao - Venezuela


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    Re: Russian Navy: Status & News #2

    Post  KomissarBojanchev on Fri Jan 31, 2014 10:23 am

    We have had for a years a Russian ship similar to this one docked in varna bay, Bulgaria. I've seen it from a few km every time a travel by train. Anyway it looks almost like this one but along with the 2 AK-630s it also has a 57 or 76mm bow gun. Anyone know if the soviets ever operated a ship like that?

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    Re: Russian Navy: Status & News #2

    Post  GarryB on Sat Feb 01, 2014 8:33 am

    Have to have more detail... most of the Soviet support fleet was armed with AK-630 and light main guns... Smile


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    Re: Russian Navy: Status & News #2

    Post  TR1 on Sun Feb 02, 2014 10:25 am

    http://dimmi-tomsk.livejournal.com/246029.html#comments

    -1st of this month, first trials of Novorosiisk should have started.
    -At the end of this month, the 4 boat of the series, the Krasnodar will be laid down.
    -Rostov-on-Don launched in May 2014.

    Of course this proves the media balony about 3 boats in 1 year wrong, but nonetheless, good pace.

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    Re: Russian Navy: Status & News #2

    Post  KomissarBojanchev on Tue Feb 04, 2014 12:38 pm

    What is the latest news on the planned SSM replacement for the slava? Is it remotely possible to some zircon silos or will it have all its ASMs removed?

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    Re: Russian Navy: Status & News #2

    Post  TR1 on Tue Feb 04, 2014 8:19 pm

    KomissarBojanchev wrote:What is the latest news on the planned SSM replacement for the slava? Is it remotely possible to some zircon silos or will it have all its ASMs removed?

    There is no SSM replacement planned for Slava.

    The Ustinov is being capital repaired, but not reworked with new weapons.

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