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    Казаки (Cossacks)

    Post  Jyshky on Sun Feb 23, 2014 4:53 pm

    So, what do you think about the Cossacks? I love them, their history and culture.

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    Re: Казаки (Cossacks)

    Post  KomissarBojanchev on Sun Feb 23, 2014 5:02 pm

    They massacred leftist workers and peasants in the Russian empire and civil war, took part in jewish pogroms, served in SS divisions(WW2).

    Its strange how a social class developed from escaped serfs returned to serve the Tsar and dvoryans, their former overlords and oppressors. They even took part in destroying Pugachov's rebellion and the peasant rebel group of Stepan Razin. What irony Neutral 

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    Re: Казаки (Cossacks)

    Post  macedonian on Sun Feb 23, 2014 5:10 pm

    KomissarBojanchev wrote:They massacred leftist workers and peasants in the Russian empire and civil war, took part in jewish pogroms, served in SS divisions(WW2).

    Its strange how a social class developed from escaped serfs returned to serve the Tsar and dvoryans, their former overlords and oppressors. They even took part in destroying Pugachov's rebellion and the peasant rebel group of Stepan Razin. What irony Neutral 

    Kid, if I were you, I'd pretty much keep my mouth shut, and lurk more - while not posting the first thing that comes to my mind...and read a BIT* more history.


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    Post  Regular on Sun Feb 23, 2014 5:15 pm

    If following that road, they are professional pusee whippers.

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    Post  Werewolf on Sun Feb 23, 2014 6:51 pm

    Regular wrote:If following that road, they are professional pusee whippers.

    You don't need to be cosack to hate pussy riot western backed scum, they were just put into charge to keep streets around sochi clean from hooligans and had the permission to use physical disciplination to restore/sustain peace in that region and pussy riot can be glad that they were not arrested and charged with unallowed and unannounced their "music" performance to be more precise it is disturbance of public calm and peace and could be charged with a big fine or even jail time due the fact that they are repeat offenders. The biggest hypocrisy is in the west even tho germany for example has absolutley exact same laws with exact same jailtime of 3 years for interference of religion exercise and what the media here in germany never covered were stupid girls in Köln made same bullshit "performance" in Kölner Dom and were charged for "interference of religion exercise" while reported in medias that "Putins russia" puting poor little girls into "gulags". How i hate this anglo-zionistic regime.

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    Post  Regular on Sun Feb 23, 2014 7:34 pm

    I hate them as well. A cheaply done PR, not a real protesters by a soul and idea. There are shitloads of proper protesters who do it right, who target real issues and so on, but they are never picked by western media as those same issues are common in the west as well.
    But You have to agree that cossack acted like a idiot. There are so many ways to do it in civilized way. They should get training in the future to deal with it.
    When You arrest person and take him to his cell, you can put a police baton in thick newspaper so it wont leave bruises, put a gas-mask pepper sprayed from inside and beat the crap out of that person. And there is even other "prikol" police can do, like put TBC infected person in same cell and keep both without heating for a night or two. It would really help those "ladies" with singing.

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    Post  Werewolf on Sun Feb 23, 2014 7:45 pm

    There is no reason to be civilized with uncivilized scum that is responsible for russophobic propaganda. People who are responsible for such propaganda or have any participation part in it deserve much worse than that. Propaganda in todays time is ignored by to many as the real threat it is. Propaganda is the reason why so many people getting manipulated and this very same propaganda was used in other happenings by anglo-zionistic depopulation doctrine to start major wars, so doing propaganda just to envile entire nations or ethnics should be punishable by very harsh jail sentences at least. People who are responsible of falsification of history should be treated relative to what they cause. Humanity acted and reacted far to long like pussies to all this bullshit as long you let you bully around you send a message that you deserve it and that you don't mind it and what you need to do is the same as you do on the school yard with bullies one big violent example on your bully and he will stop for the rest of his life that is what is needed. Sounds hard? That is the only thing bullies understand, violance.


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    Re: Казаки (Cossacks)

    Post  macedonian on Sun Feb 23, 2014 7:45 pm

    Regular wrote:But You have to agree that cossack acted like a idiot.

    The 'Cossacks' did act like idiots, I agree...as much as I disapprove of 'PussyRiot' (oh them sexist fuckers - 've never seen the DickyRiot on tour with that lot), you just don't hit a female. End of story. (well...a slap here and there...NO, NO, NO! - Just havin' a laugh!) Laughing

    They truly embarrassed Russia there. Not to mention the embarrassment to the Cossack 'nation'.
    No true warrior would EVER hit a female.

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    Re: Казаки (Cossacks)

    Post  macedonian on Sun Feb 23, 2014 7:47 pm

    Werewolf wrote:There is no reason to be civilized with uncivilized scum...

    So what would define 'civilized' than?

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    Post  Werewolf on Sun Feb 23, 2014 7:54 pm

    macedonian wrote:
    Werewolf wrote:There is no reason to be civilized with uncivilized scum...

    So what would define 'civilized' than?

    Protesters who find real critics about Putin and the current government with substance and not shouting and spitting lies and insultments towards religious and calling all christians "cocksuckers".
    What goes around comes around. Treat people like you want to be treated and they deserved it and much more, plane and simple.

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    Post  TR1 on Sun Feb 23, 2014 8:03 pm

    Wannabe warriors who have been nothing but hicks and rednecks for the past 100 years.

    That is what I think of Cossacks.

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    Re: Казаки (Cossacks)

    Post  macedonian on Sun Feb 23, 2014 8:04 pm

    Werewolf wrote:
    macedonian wrote:
    Werewolf wrote:There is no reason to be civilized with uncivilized scum...

    So what would define 'civilized' than?

    Protesters who find real critics about Putin and the current government with substance and not shouting and spitting lies and insultments towards religious and calling all christians "cocksuckers".
    What goes around comes around. Treat people like you want to be treated and they deserved it and much more, plane and simple.

    Right above your head, that one. I was talking about contrast in Art, sorry must 've posted in the wrong thread  Very Happy .
    But now that you've mentioned it, as I myself am an Orthodox Christian, I don't want ANYONE to defend me. Especially not from some birds that think that they 'know stuff'. Laughable.

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    Post  Werewolf on Sun Feb 23, 2014 8:09 pm

    Especially not from some birds that think that they 'know stuff'. Laughable. wrote:

    Excuse me?

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    Post  TR1 on Sun Feb 23, 2014 8:10 pm

    Birds = women.


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    Re: Казаки (Cossacks)

    Post  macedonian on Sun Feb 23, 2014 8:10 pm

    TR1 wrote:Birds = women.


    Thank you

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    Post  Werewolf on Sun Feb 23, 2014 8:11 pm

    TR1 wrote:Birds = women.


    Chicks...ok

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    Post  collegeboy16 on Mon Feb 24, 2014 12:27 pm

    I think they like BDSM and dressup.

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    Post  sepheronx on Mon Feb 24, 2014 1:19 pm

    TR1 wrote:Wannabe warriors who have been nothing but hicks and rednecks for the past 100 years.

    That is what I think of Cossacks.

    Oh geeze, how nice. Where you not the one moaning about how people misunderstand and generalize muslims in your country? My great grandfather was a Cossak, hence why my great babushka fled the country.

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    Post  etaepsilonk on Mon Feb 24, 2014 2:25 pm

    Cossacks are awesome  respekt

    Regarding that episode, where they took care of those "singers", that was one helluva sight  Very Happy Very Happy 
    It's only a shame that they were too soft, should've broken an arm or two for better measure.

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    Post  TR1 on Mon Feb 24, 2014 7:30 pm

    sepheronx wrote:
    TR1 wrote:Wannabe warriors who have been nothing but hicks and rednecks for the past 100 years.

    That is what I think of Cossacks.

    Oh geeze, how nice. Where you not the one moaning about how people misunderstand and generalize muslims in your country? My great grandfather was a Cossak, hence why my great babushka fled the country.

    Your grandfather is not the same as the retards parading around Russia pretending they are still some warrior class.

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    Re: Казаки (Cossacks)

    Post  sepheronx on Mon Feb 24, 2014 7:34 pm

    TR1 wrote:
    sepheronx wrote:
    TR1 wrote:Wannabe warriors who have been nothing but hicks and rednecks for the past 100 years.

    That is what I think of Cossacks.

    Oh geeze, how nice. Where you not the one moaning about how people misunderstand and generalize muslims in your country? My great grandfather was a Cossak, hence why my great babushka fled the country.

    Your grandfather is not the same as the retards parading around Russia pretending they are still some warrior class.

    ell no. I think he lays in an unmarked grave with a round in the head. Yes, these guys are stooges.

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    Post  medo on Mon Feb 24, 2014 8:49 pm

    Cossacks without horses. Something is missing.

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    Post  flamming_python on Tue Feb 25, 2014 7:00 am

    KomissarBojanchev wrote:They massacred leftist workers and peasants in the Russian empire and civil war, took part in jewish pogroms, served in SS divisions(WW2).

    Its strange how a social class developed from escaped serfs returned to serve the Tsar and dvoryans, their former overlords and oppressors. They even took part in destroying Pugachov's rebellion and the peasant rebel group of Stepan Razin. What irony Neutral 

    Pretty much

    Although there were exceptions; like the 'red' Cossacks, who took the Bolshevik side during the Russian Civil War, and also the ones that fought in the Red Army in WW2 in Cossack Cavalry divisions
    Same with some Cossack hosts in Siberia and the Far East; who generally speaking just got on with their own business and focused on settling Russia, founding many settlements and great cities, rather than dabbling in BS.

    Current dumbasses don't even known their own history. There have been a number of conflicts between the new 'Cossacks', and the Armenian community in some parts of the Krasnodar Krai or somewhere - when in fact Cossacks came to Armenia's aid and the country even has its own historic Cossack communities

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    Post  vK_man on Sun Apr 27, 2014 4:49 pm

    TR1 wrote:
    sepheronx wrote:
    TR1 wrote:Wannabe warriors who have been nothing but hicks and rednecks for the past 100 years.

    That is what I think of Cossacks.

    Oh geeze, how nice. Where you not the one moaning about how people misunderstand and generalize muslims in your country? My great grandfather was a Cossak, hence why my great babushka fled the country.

    Your grandfather is not the same as the retards parading around Russia pretending they are still some warrior class.

    Are you muslim russian?Volga tatar? Kavkazian?

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    Post  TheArmenian on Wed Jun 25, 2014 3:23 pm

    Here is a very interesting youtube clip from russian TV channel, a history proffesor describing Armenians as being the first cossaks.
    The first evidences abut cossaks comes from 13-14th centuries as them being Armenian mercenary forces that were protecting the towns of crimea under name of kazaks. The professor tells that they were called as "kazak" in Armenian. There are records of payments posted by local population centers to them and most of their names are Armenian. They arrived from eastern anatolia as it was run over by mongol/seljuks.
    In mid 15th century majority population there became Armenian with their churches and libraries governed by a catolic ptriarchate.
    I knew there was something about those dark haired brown eyed cossaks in souhtern russia and Ukraine. I thought that those were the result of mixing slavs with turks. But this is the thrue explanation as turkics arrived there much later. Cossaks are mix of slavs and Armenians, that became largely ortodox and mainly slavic. But even at czarist times they kept their autonomy. Cossaks never accepted serfdom. They were free roaming semi-militarised tribes.


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