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    Re: Project 12700 Minesweeper thread

    Post  George1 on Wed Jan 13, 2016 12:57 pm

    KomissarBojanchev wrote:Why isn't there any news on whether the new minesweepers are in service? Are there any more decade long problems there with ubernew untested technology even with these these ships?

    First series ship of 12700 project is on trials


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    Re: Project 12700 Minesweeper thread

    Post  Militarov on Sat Feb 13, 2016 5:56 pm

    Delivery of new minesweeper "Aleksandr Obukhov" delayed until Jun 2016.



    Source: https://rns.online/military/Korabl-protivominnoi-oboroni-aleksandr-Obuhov-peredadut-VMF-v-iyune--2016-02-13/
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    Re: Project 12700 Minesweeper thread

    Post  George1 on Thu Sep 01, 2016 10:50 pm

    Construction of the fourth Minesweeper of project 12700 started



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    Re: Project 12700 Minesweeper thread

    Post  TheArmenian on Tue Dec 06, 2016 10:45 am

    The lead Minesweeper of the Pr. 12700 (Alexander Obukhov) will be commissioned into the Navy on the 9th of December:

    http://flotprom.ru/2016/Снсз19/
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    Project 12700 Minesweeper

    Post  TheArmenian on Fri Dec 09, 2016 3:47 pm

    ALEXANDER OBUKHOV, the first of series of 800T minesweepers with non-magnetic composite hulls has been accepted into service of the Baltic Fleet.





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    Re: Project 12700 Minesweeper thread

    Post  franco on Fri Dec 09, 2016 7:40 pm

    The first 12700 class minesweeper accepted into the Navy;

    PETERSBURG, December 9 - RIA Novosti. The lead ship of a new generation of anti-mine defense "Alexander Obukhov" on Friday will give the Russian Navy, said the Mid-Nevsky Shipyard (SNSZ, part of United Shipbuilding Corporation).

    Minesweeper "Alexander Obukhov" is built on the Mid-Nevsky Shipyard commissioned by the Ministry of Defense. The ship, designed CMDB "Almaz", was laid in September 2011, was launched on June, 2014.

    "December Ninth in the Leningrad naval base held a ceremony of flag raising and transferring the lead ship mine defense customers a new generation of" Alexander Obukhov, "- the report says.

    Project 12700 ship is designed to find and destroy mines in the waters of the naval bases at a safe distance to the ship. Displacement of the ship is 890 tons, length - 61 meters, width - 10 meters, the speed at full displacement - 16.5 knot, crew - 44 people. To combat the mines ship can use different types of trawls, as well as remotely operated and autonomous underwater vehicle. The ship has a high maneuverability due to the use of an effective combination of various thrusters.

    "Alexander Obukhov" - a unique minesweeper, with the world's largest body of reinforced fiberglass, formed by vacuum infusion. This technology in the Russian military shipbuilding applied for the first time. The advantage of such a body is a higher strength compared with steel bodies, which provides greater survivability of the ship when searching for mines. The term service housing of fiberglass reinforced more than the body of magnetic steel and the body weight is significantly less.

    In April 2014 SNSZ signed a contract with the Russian Ministry of Defense to build a series of ships of this project. Under the terms of the contract, delivery of production vehicles is scheduled in the period from 2016 to 2018.
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    Re: Project 12700 Minesweeper thread

    Post  Militarov on Fri Dec 09, 2016 7:46 pm

    franco wrote:The first 12700 class minesweeper accepted into the Navy;

    PETERSBURG, December 9 - RIA Novosti. The lead ship of a new generation of anti-mine defense "Alexander Obukhov" on Friday will give the Russian Navy, said the Mid-Nevsky Shipyard (SNSZ, part of United Shipbuilding Corporation).

    Minesweeper "Alexander Obukhov" is built on the Mid-Nevsky Shipyard commissioned by the Ministry of Defense. The ship, designed CMDB "Almaz", was laid in September 2011, was launched on June, 2014.

    "December Ninth in the Leningrad naval base held a ceremony of flag raising and transferring the lead ship mine defense customers a new generation of" Alexander Obukhov, "- the report says.

    Project 12700 ship is designed to find and destroy mines in the waters of the naval bases at a safe distance to the ship. Displacement of the ship is 890 tons, length - 61 meters, width - 10 meters, the speed at full displacement - 16.5 knot, crew - 44 people. To combat the mines ship can use different types of trawls, as well as remotely operated and autonomous underwater vehicle. The ship has a high maneuverability due to the use of an effective combination of various thrusters.

    "Alexander Obukhov" - a unique minesweeper, with the world's largest body of reinforced fiberglass, formed by vacuum infusion. This technology in the Russian military shipbuilding applied for the first time. The advantage of such a body is a higher strength compared with steel bodies, which provides greater survivability of the ship when searching for mines. The term service housing of fiberglass reinforced more than the body of magnetic steel and the body weight is significantly less.

    In April 2014 SNSZ signed a contract with the Russian Ministry of Defense to build a series of ships of this project. Under the terms of the contract, delivery of production vehicles is scheduled in the period from 2016 to 2018.

    Is it known which remotely operated vehicle is used by the ship?
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    Re: Project 12700 Minesweeper thread

    Post  franco on Fri Dec 09, 2016 9:20 pm

    This is from the list of weapons to be carried but doesn't mean anything to me;

    «Alexandrit-ISPUM», «Diamand», OUKT-B contact sweep, PKT-B contact sweep, "Zhelatin" sweep, ShAT-U acoustic sweep
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    Re: Project 12700 Minesweeper thread

    Post  George1 on Sat Dec 10, 2016 1:36 pm

    Russia Contracts for Another 7 Coastal Project 12700 Minesweepers – Navy

    Read more: https://sputniknews.com/military/201612091048367389-russia-navy-minesweepers/


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    Re: Project 12700 Minesweeper thread

    Post  George1 on Sat Dec 10, 2016 1:42 pm

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    Re: Project 12700 Minesweeper thread

    Post  franco on Sat Dec 10, 2016 4:38 pm

    Militarov wrote:
    franco wrote:The first 12700 class minesweeper accepted into the Navy;

    PETERSBURG, December 9 - RIA Novosti. The lead ship of a new generation of anti-mine defense "Alexander Obukhov" on Friday will give the Russian Navy, said the Mid-Nevsky Shipyard (SNSZ, part of United Shipbuilding Corporation).

    Minesweeper "Alexander Obukhov" is built on the Mid-Nevsky Shipyard commissioned by the Ministry of Defense. The ship, designed CMDB "Almaz", was laid in September 2011, was launched on June, 2014.

    "December Ninth in the Leningrad naval base held a ceremony of flag raising and transferring the lead ship mine defense customers a new generation of" Alexander Obukhov, "- the report says.

    Project 12700 ship is designed to find and destroy mines in the waters of the naval bases at a safe distance to the ship. Displacement of the ship is 890 tons, length - 61 meters, width - 10 meters, the speed at full displacement - 16.5 knot, crew - 44 people. To combat the mines ship can use different types of trawls, as well as remotely operated and autonomous underwater vehicle. The ship has a high maneuverability due to the use of an effective combination of various thrusters.

    "Alexander Obukhov" - a unique minesweeper, with the world's largest body of reinforced fiberglass, formed by vacuum infusion. This technology in the Russian military shipbuilding applied for the first time. The advantage of such a body is a higher strength compared with steel bodies, which provides greater survivability of the ship when searching for mines. The term service housing of fiberglass reinforced more than the body of magnetic steel and the body weight is significantly less.

    In April 2014 SNSZ signed a contract with the Russian Ministry of Defense to build a series of ships of this project. Under the terms of the contract, delivery of production vehicles is scheduled in the period from 2016 to 2018.

    Is it known which remotely operated vehicle is used by the ship?

    Just saw this on twitter...

    Baltic Fleet received new ship – Alexander Obukhov (Project 12700) minesweeper. Has French USV Inspector MK2 drone.
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    Re: Project 12700 Minesweeper thread

    Post  Militarov on Sat Dec 10, 2016 8:05 pm

    franco wrote:
    Militarov wrote:
    franco wrote:The first 12700 class minesweeper accepted into the Navy;

    PETERSBURG, December 9 - RIA Novosti. The lead ship of a new generation of anti-mine defense "Alexander Obukhov" on Friday will give the Russian Navy, said the Mid-Nevsky Shipyard (SNSZ, part of United Shipbuilding Corporation).

    Minesweeper "Alexander Obukhov" is built on the Mid-Nevsky Shipyard commissioned by the Ministry of Defense. The ship, designed CMDB "Almaz", was laid in September 2011, was launched on June, 2014.

    "December Ninth in the Leningrad naval base held a ceremony of flag raising and transferring the lead ship mine defense customers a new generation of" Alexander Obukhov, "- the report says.

    Project 12700 ship is designed to find and destroy mines in the waters of the naval bases at a safe distance to the ship. Displacement of the ship is 890 tons, length - 61 meters, width - 10 meters, the speed at full displacement - 16.5 knot, crew - 44 people. To combat the mines ship can use different types of trawls, as well as remotely operated and autonomous underwater vehicle. The ship has a high maneuverability due to the use of an effective combination of various thrusters.

    "Alexander Obukhov" - a unique minesweeper, with the world's largest body of reinforced fiberglass, formed by vacuum infusion. This technology in the Russian military shipbuilding applied for the first time. The advantage of such a body is a higher strength compared with steel bodies, which provides greater survivability of the ship when searching for mines. The term service housing of fiberglass reinforced more than the body of magnetic steel and the body weight is significantly less.

    In April 2014 SNSZ signed a contract with the Russian Ministry of Defense to build a series of ships of this project. Under the terms of the contract, delivery of production vehicles is scheduled in the period from 2016 to 2018.

    Is it known which remotely operated vehicle is used by the ship?

    Just saw this on twitter...

    Baltic Fleet received new ship – Alexander Obukhov (Project 12700) minesweeper. Has French USV Inspector MK2 drone.

    Interesting.

    http://www.ecagroup.com/en/solutions/unmanned-surface-vehicle-inspector-mk2

    Could it be the thing under the tarp?

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    Re: Project 12700 Minesweeper thread

    Post  George1 on Mon Dec 19, 2016 5:18 am

    Minesweeper "Alexander Obukhov"



















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    Project 12700 Minesweeper

    Post  eehnie on Fri Dec 23, 2016 2:28 am

    TheArmenian wrote:The lead Minesweeper of the Pr. 12700 (Alexander Obukhov) will be commissioned into the Navy on the 9th of December:

    http://flotprom.ru/2016/Снсз19/

    Done: http://russianships.info/eng/warships/project_12700.htm
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    Re: Project 12700 Minesweeper thread

    Post  franco on Thu Jan 19, 2017 10:37 pm

    Navy should receive around 20 of the 12700 class minesweepers;

    https://ria.ru/arms/20170119/1486051944.html
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    Re: Project 12700 Minesweeper thread

    Post  TheArmenian on Fri Jan 20, 2017 7:40 am

    The next ship will be laid down on January 25th.
    The name will be IVAN ANTONOV

    https://ria.ru/arms/20170119/1486012293.html
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    Project 12700 Minesweeper thread

    Post  TheArmenian on Thu Apr 13, 2017 1:20 pm

    4th unit of the new minesweeper class will be laid down on the 20th of April.

    The name is Vladimir Emelyanov.
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    Post  TheArmenian on Thu Apr 20, 2017 12:52 pm

    TheArmenian wrote:4th unit of the new minesweeper class will be laid down on the 20th of April.

    The name is Vladimir Emelyanov.

    And the promise has been kept:

    VLADIMIR EMELYANOV, the fourth unit of the Project 12700 minesweeper has been laid down.

    http://flotprom.ru/2017/%D0%A1%D0%BD%D1%81%D0%B712/

    https://sdelanounas.ru/blogs/92631/
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    Re: Project 12700 Minesweeper thread

    Post  hoom on Fri May 19, 2017 5:07 pm

    Alexsander Obukhov minesweeper joined Baltic fleet in Baltiysk

    Is it just a relocation or 'joined the fleet' for real this time? dunno
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    Re: Project 12700 Minesweeper thread

    Post  hoom on Fri Jun 09, 2017 11:14 am

    Plans for 40 of these now Suspect http://nortwolf-sam.blogspot.co.nz/2017/06/40-12700.html
    Perhaps wisely no date given but they say expect to ramp up to 2 per year at Mid-Nevsky & start production in Far East.

    The other day someone made a post about if there is a replacement for Grisha class ASW ships coming, I'm thinking an ASW variant of this might be a good idea?
    A minesweeper should have pretty quiet machinery as well as the non-magnetic hull right? Sounds like a good start for ASW to me.

    BTW since they never showed up in this thread, some pics of the one that burnt


    Also some more at http://7fbtk.blogspot.co.nz/2016/06/fire-on-georgiy-kurbatov.html
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    Re: Project 12700 Minesweeper thread

    Post  eehnie on Fri Jun 09, 2017 1:20 pm


    It would be interesting if this topic becomes the overall topic for Minesweepers, like in the case of the Amphibious ships.
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    Re: Project 12700 Minesweeper thread

    Post  George1 on Wed Jul 26, 2017 7:46 am

    French ECA Group has supplied to Russia a second set of mine action system

    On July 25, 2017, the French ECA Group announced in its press release that it supplied the Russian JSC "Sredne-Nevsky Shipyard" (SNSS, St. Petersburg, part of the United Shipbuilding Corporation JSC) to equip the "new generation ships" The second set of mine mine system, including the Boeing Inspector (BEC) Inspector Mk 2, equipped with a towed GAC of the side view of the TOWCA and the bowed down SAS ISSS. The carrier vehicle and the Inspector Mk 2 boat are also equipped with Seascan's remote-controlled underwater search engines.

    Also in the press release of the ESA it is reported that the company successfully continues the integration of the first set of mine action system delivered at the end of 2016 on the "head ship" [the head sea minesweeper "Alexander Obukhov" project 12700]. "Preliminary sea trials, which took place in mid-June 2017, showed the extensive capabilities of BEC and its payload to achieve the required characteristics of the ship."

    "Thanks to the fruitful cooperation with its local partner, shipyard staff, crew and other specialized companies, the ECA Group (C2) management system and the Triton software package are in the integration phase on the main ship, which should be completed in the next few weeks."

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    , we recall that the contract for the purchase of four BEC Inspector Mk 2 and mine action vehicles of the ECA group for equipping the minesweepers of project 12700 (Diamand complex) was concluded, according to known information, by the Russian company Prominvest (part of Rostekh State Corporation) ) In January 2014. Subsequently, the contract was reduced to three boats Inspector Mk 2. As can be judged, the head boat Inspector Mk 2 was delivered to Russia in the fall of 2015, the second - at the end of 2016, and now, apparently, according to the release of the ECA, the third launch was delivered.

    At the end of June 2017, at the International Naval Salon of IMDS-2017 in St. Petersburg, the ECA Group's commercial director Dominique Mallet said that the company would organize the Russian production of the Inspector Mk 2 crew-less boats and Seascan Mk 2 submersibles in the next two years.



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    Re: Project 12700 Minesweeper thread

    Post  TheArmenian on Sat Nov 04, 2017 7:35 am

    3rd unit Oleg Antonov will be launched in early 2018

    http://www.korabli.eu/blogs/novosti/morskie-novosti/korabl-pmo-proekta-12700
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    Re: Project 12700 Minesweeper thread

    Post  hoom on Thu Nov 16, 2017 3:22 am

    http://flotprom.ru/2017/%D0%A1%D0%BD%D1%81%D0%B725/
    2nd & 3rd Serial boats will be launched before the 1st (delayed to 2019).
    Georgy Kurbatov the 1st is the one that burned, apparently 600m^2.
    Seems a minor miracle that they don't have to outright scrap it & build anew, not impossible they're quietly doing that.

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