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    Post  flamming_python on Sun Sep 29, 2019 4:23 pm

    dino00 wrote:[size=16]The Russian Navy expects to receive 40 minesweepers of the project 12700 by 2030[/size]

    The third newest ship of the Vladimir Emelyanov series will be launched before the end of the second quarter of 2019

    This was announced on Tuesday by the commander-in-chief of the Navy, Admiral Vladimir Korolev, at a meeting on surface shipbuilding.

    "Serial construction of mine defense ships is carried out within the framework of the development and re-equipment of mine-trawling forces of the Navy. Until 2030, the Russian Navy plans to have about 40 ships of the PMO project 12700," he said

    Earlier, Vladimir Tryapichnikov, head of the shipbuilding department of the Russian Navy, said that the fleet expects to receive 40 fiberglass trawlers of the project 12700 by 2030–2050.

    The displacement of ships of this project is 890 tons, length - 62 meters, width - ten meters, crew - 44 people.

    https://tass.ru/armiya-i-opk/6393370

    WOW Shocked  from 10 in 2027 to 40 in 2030.
    Now we can say, with all the latest decisions that The Future Russian Navy is being built! This deserves a flag russia

    They'll have more minesweepers than surface combat vessels at this rate. For the benefit of whom will they be cutting a path through the minefield for, it must be asked.

    And what then? Have the minesweepers do the fighting with their AK-630 gattling guns? Or more likely they'll just be sitting ducks because the rest of this mighty future Russian Navy doesn't exist.
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    Post  GarryB on Mon Sep 30, 2019 4:40 am

    Come on FP, you are complaining that they are making important vessels that most other navies neglect... it is like saying why is the air force buying trainers and transports when they should be buying lots and lots of fighters.

    Considering the closed seas the black sea fleet and the baltic fleet operate and to an extent all of their fleets really, and the number of choke points nearby and around them, I would think mine sweepers would be an even higher priority than a multi billion dollar carrier.

    Not like they are hard to make and they would certainly be needed in any realistic scenario to protect surface vessels.

    Obviously with modern high tech ships that are multi purpose it would be interesting to see if they have expanded the design to perhaps allow anti sub roles, as well as anti mine capabilities.

    Sure it only has mines and 30mm gatlings, but even if it is operating with Corvettes, a corvette with a UKSK launcher can fire off 91er1 ballistic rockets to deliver a modern and capable anti sub torpedo out to 40km in a minute or so.
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    Post  flamming_python Yesterday at 3:07 am

    Some good import-substitution going on here

    http://mil.today/2019/Navy63/

    Almaz Bureau Told of New Drone Boats for Alexandrite-Class Minesweepers

    The ninth and further Project 12700 Alexandrite-class mine countermeasures ships will obtain the crucially new Russian-made unmanned boats developed by the ships’ designer, Almaz bureau, the company’s CEO, Alexander Shlyakhtenko told Mil.Press Today at the International Maritime Defense Show (IMDS-2019).

    As for him, the French unmanned boats Inspector Mk II do not meet the needs of the Russian naval mariners in full. In May, Shlyakhtenko announced that beginning from the ninth ship, Project 12700 minesweepers would get "numerous changes and absolutely new features". This includes the new drone boats, too.

    An interim solution was installation of the Russian unmanned boats Scanda. On July 10, Admiral Nikolay Evmenov, Russian Navy’s Commander-in-Chief said the Scanda’s key feature was that the robotized system was based on the massive operation experience of the fast-speed boats BL-680.

    Development of unmanned motorboats for minesweepers and other Russian Navy’s ships is currently going on a competitive basis, two industry insiders told Mil.Press Today. The tactical specifications of the drone boats are jointly elaborated by the naval personnel, scientists, designers and representatives of industry.

    One of the interviewees emphasized that the new unmanned boats would be mounted for test operation even on the fourth or fifth Alexandrite-class sweepers. The expert did not specify what exactly drone boat was in question, though said it was created on a new platform.

    The third ship of this class, Vladimir Yemelyanov, will get the Russian-made drone boats based on BL-680, announced on May 30 Vladimir Tryapichnikov, director of the Russian Navy’s shipbuilding department. The second Alexandrite-class minesweeper, Ivan Antonov, was equipped with the boats based on BL-680, they are undergoing trials.

    http://mil.today/2019/Navy35/


    Alexandrite-Class Minesweepers to Get Russian-Made Deck Cranes

    Project 12700 Alexandrite-class mine countermeasure ships must be equipped with home-produced low-magnetic deck cranes, concluded representatives of the Russian Navy and military industry convened at the United Shipbuilding Corporation’s meeting in the 2018 yearend, the two informed insiders told Mil.Press Today.

    The meeting was attended by the naval officials, delegates from Almaz design bureau, Sredne-Nevsky shipyard, United Shipbuilding Corporation, and potential crane manufacturers. According to one of Almaz designers in charge for minesweeper projects, there was a fundamental decision as of switching to the Russian deck equipment. Further, the question will be related to the industry, he summarized. Along with that, the import substitution terms still remain cloudy.

    The first two ships in series were equipped with foreign-made cranes. In the latter case, the matter is the low-magnetic (titanium) version of HTFC-2.2T10M-A-LM hydraulic telescopic-boom crane.

    Among other missions, the device is designed for lifting of an unmanned distant-controlled boat. According to the specifications, the crane’s capacity is at least 2.2 tons, max handling radius from the stand axis is 9 meters. Materials of the crane’s components should be made of low-magnetic alloys like aluminum or titanic ones.

    On May 31, 2016, Sredne-Nevsky shipyard announced the request for proposals regarding supplies of such cranes. The trigger price was 82 mln rubles. Four companies submitted bids then. On August 19, Sredne-Nevsky shipyard posted a notice of refusal from procurement.

    On April 17, 2018, the yard tied a contract with the Singapore company named Titan Offshore Equipment Pte Ltd for supervision and adjustment works and participation in mooring trials and revision stage of HTFC-2.2T10M-A-LM cranes. Cost of works is 126,300 SGD, which is about 6 mln rubles.

    An informed insider told Mil.Press Today that Sredne-Nevsky shipyard had been tasked to prepare information about delivery terms and purchase procedures for other three minesweepers.
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