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    calripson

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    Post  calripson on Sat Jan 18, 2014 4:59 am

    The most likely point of actual conflict between NATO and Russia would in fact be a naval conflict - in the Black Sea for instance over another Georgia conflict. Given that, I would think dedicated naval aviation for Russia would be a good idea specifically naval strike assets (not sure how Su 30SM stacks up against Su 34). I would agree that at a minimum Russia would need the Baltic covered from Kaliningrad, Murmansk, the Black Sea, Caspian, Kamchatka, and Vladivostok. That is at a minimum 72 aircraft. Large numbers of land based anti-ship missiles would be needed to complement those assets as well as S 400 coverage for those locations.
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    Re: Russian Naval Aviation: News

    Post  flamming_python on Sat Jan 18, 2014 11:31 am

    Can probably skip the air coverage of the Caspain, Russia is already armed to the teeth there as it is.
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    Post  medo on Sat Jan 18, 2014 1:00 pm

    flamming_python wrote:Can probably skip the air coverage of the Caspain, Russia is already armed to the teeth there as it is.

    Why? 1 squadron in Black Sea and 1 squadron on Caspian could better cover Caucasus, not to mention, that Caspian sea is important oil field and there are pipelines. Caspian squadron could well cover northern Iran, Azerbaijan, Turkmenistan and Kazakhstan Caspian shore. It is practically more important than Black Sea.
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    Russian Navy Pilot Training Center Completion Delayed To November.

    Post  Flyingdutchman on Thu Jan 23, 2014 8:37 pm

    MOSCOW, December 25 (RIA Novosti) – The Russian navy has pushed back the intended in-service date for a new deck-landing training installation by almost a year for undisclosed reasons, a building contractor involved in the project said Wednesday.
    The facility, known by its Russian acronym NITKA and being built in the Black Sea town of Yeisk, was originally due to enter service this month, the Defense Ministry said as recently as October.
    “The work schedule for NITKA has been delayed to November 2014,” said a management source from a contractor company involved in the project. The source did not say why the project had been delayed, but said it was at the Defense Ministry’s initiative and “was not connected to the state of the project. From our side, it was all ready to hand over in December this year.”
    Russian navy pilots previously used a similar facility nearby in Ukraine’s Crimean Peninsula under a 1997 bilateral agreement, but Moscow told Kiev in September that it would stop using that base.
    The Russian Defense Ministry had previously said it was willing to upgrade the Ukrainian facility.
    A Russian navy Sukhoi Su-25UTG trainer made the first flight from the new Yeisk facility in July to test its ski-jump configuration runway, which simulates the flight deck of Russia’s only aircraft carrier, the Admiral Kuznetsov.
    The navy currently operates Sukhoi Su-33 fighters from the carrier but is in the process of receiving the new Mikoyan MiG-29K, capable of air defense and strike missions.
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    Re: Russian Naval Aviation: News

    Post  GarryB on Fri Jan 24, 2014 1:18 am

    The optimist that I am thinks the delay of a year might be to install new catapult systems for training to use new carriers and the upgraded K...

    Or it could be that all the radar and communication equipment needs to be upgraded... but I would think they should have already anticipated this and put new radar and sensor equipment in in the first place.

    It really only makes sense to me if they have just decided to go for a cat in the K upgrade which makes it worth while to delay the opening of the new facility while they add it there.

    The added advantage is that it will be installed in a year, but will allow practise and training with the system for quite some time before the upgraded K is back in service so hopefully they will iron out all the kinks is problems with the system.


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    Russian Navy Pilot Training Center Completion Delayed To November.

    Post  Flyingdutchman on Fri Jan 24, 2014 8:01 am

    GarryB wrote:The optimist that I am thinks the delay of a year might be to install new catapult systems for training to use new carriers and the upgraded K...

    Or it could be that all the radar and communication equipment needs to be upgraded... but I would think they should have already anticipated this and put new radar and sensor equipment in in the first place.

    It really only makes sense to me if they have just decided to go for a cat in the K upgrade which makes it worth while to delay the opening of the new facility while they add it there.

    The added advantage is that it will be installed in a year, but will allow practise and training with the system for quite some time before the upgraded K is back in service so hopefully they will iron out all the kinks is problems with the system.

    That would be awesome!
    Can the mig-29k be launched with cats?
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    Re: Russian Naval Aviation: News

    Post  TR1 on Tue Feb 25, 2014 11:17 pm

    http://www.gusda.ru/upload/iblock/e02/DSC_0021.JPG

    Eisk, last year.
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    Post  George1 on Wed Jul 09, 2014 5:37 pm

    Russian Defense Ministry to restore Baltic amphibious plane base

    Baltic Fleet Commander Vice Admiral Viktor Chirkov had for the first time announced the plans for the aerodrome restoration on February 22, 2012

    MOSCOW, July 09. /ITAR-TASS/. Russia’s Defense Ministry made a decision to restore the base of amphibious planes on the Baltic Sea - Kosa marine aerodrome of the Baltic Fleet. The press service of the Federal Special Construction Agency (Spetsstroi) told ITAR-TASS that “the main department of Russia’s Spetsstroi for the Southern Federal District conducts the preparation for the fulfilment of this major task". The aerodrome’s water area and airstrip, places of aircraft parking and hangars for boats and equipment will be rebuilt.

    The fleet has a demand for float planes. They can be used for the transportation of soldiers, in sea search and rescue operations and patrolling. Baltic Fleet Commander Vice Admiral Viktor Chirkov had for the first time announced the plans for the aerodrome restoration on February 22, 2012. He told the press that the Be-200 amphibious planes that are to be delivered to the antisubmarine aviation will be based on the Vistula Spit, where a marine aerodrome will be built for these purposes. The sea harbor there, the commander said, had already been examined by fleet experts and engineers, and the site for the airstrip construction had been determined.

    During the Soviet and post-Soviet period, Kosa was successfully used as a base for amphibious planes. Later, when antisubmarine aviation was withdrawn from the aerodrome, the whole complex of buildings, amenities, as well as hydro facilities, was ruined. Spetsstroi has promised in a short period of time to restore “the former pride of naval aviation".
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    Re: Russian Naval Aviation: News

    Post  George1 on Tue Jul 15, 2014 9:36 am

    First Modernized Il-38N ASW Plane to Be Delivered to Russian Navy on July 15

    MOSCOW, July 14 (RIA Novosti) — The first modernized Il-38N anti-submarine warfare plane will be delivered to the Russian Navy on July 15, an Ilyushin Aviation Complex spokesperson told RIA Novosti.

    «The company completed repair and modernization work on the first mass-produced Il-38N anti-submarine warfare plane for the Russian Navy. The work was completed under a contract that provides for the modernization of five combat aircraft," according to a spokesperson for the Ilyushin Aviation Complex, a subsidiary of Russia’s United Aircraft Corporation.

    The modernization included the installment of the new Novella-P-38 search and tracking system, which significantly expands the plane’s capacity.

    At the request of Maritime Air Command, the first mass-produced modernized plane was named after designer Rady Papkovsky, who played an important role in creating the Il-38N.
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    Re: Russian Naval Aviation: News

    Post  mack8 on Sat Jul 19, 2014 5:50 pm

    Nice article on the future of VMF aviation:
    http://russiancouncil.ru/inner/?id_4=4087#top
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    Re: Russian Naval Aviation: News

    Post  medo on Fri Aug 29, 2014 10:29 pm

    Anyone know, if Yak-130 for Navy will be equipped with arrester hook, or they will continue to use Su-25UTG for carrier operation trainings.
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    Re: Russian Naval Aviation: News

    Post  TR1 on Fri Aug 29, 2014 10:34 pm

    medo wrote:Anyone know, if Yak-130 for Navy will be equipped with arrester hook, or they will continue to use Su-25UTG for carrier operation trainings.

    I think they just intend to use MiG-29KUB. UTG is almost dead, and Yak-130s are for land base use.
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    Re: Russian Naval Aviation: News

    Post  Flyingdutchman on Fri Aug 29, 2014 10:37 pm

    TR1 wrote:
    medo wrote:Anyone know, if Yak-130 for Navy will be equipped with arrester hook, or they will continue to use Su-25UTG for carrier operation trainings.

    I think they just intend to use MiG-29KUB. UTG is almost dead, and Yak-130s are for land base use.

    KUB almost for sure!
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    Re: Russian Naval Aviation: News

    Post  medo on Fri Aug 29, 2014 10:41 pm

    TR1 wrote:
    medo wrote:Anyone know, if Yak-130 for Navy will be equipped with arrester hook, or they will continue to use Su-25UTG for carrier operation trainings.

    I think they just intend to use MiG-29KUB. UTG is almost dead, and Yak-130s are for land base use.

    MiG-29KUB will be on carrier. Yak-130 will be on naval ground training center (Crimea or in Russia), where they have ski jump and arrester wires for trainings of new pilots, before they will go to carrier. maybe they will order more MiG-29KUB for training center for this task.
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    Re: Russian Naval Aviation: News

    Post  Cyberspec on Sat Aug 30, 2014 4:58 am

    Finally the first 2 Ka-27M to enter service by the end of 2014.

    Arrow http://vpk-news.ru/news/21557

    The main new feature is the Kopyo-A radar

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    Finally the first 2 Ka-27M to enter service by the end of 2014.

    Post  Mike E on Sat Aug 30, 2014 5:04 am

    Good, the more advanced the ASW technology the better. It should be #1 for all navies.
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    Re: Russian Naval Aviation: News

    Post  Flyingdutchman on Sat Aug 30, 2014 12:58 pm

    medo wrote:
    TR1 wrote:
    medo wrote:Anyone know, if Yak-130 for Navy will be equipped with arrester hook, or they will continue to use Su-25UTG for carrier operation trainings.

    I think they just intend to use MiG-29KUB. UTG is almost dead, and Yak-130s are for land base use.

    MiG-29KUB will be on carrier. Yak-130 will be on naval ground training center (Crimea or in Russia), where they have ski jump and arrester wires for trainings of new pilots, before they will go to carrier. maybe they will order more MiG-29KUB for training center for this task.

    i tried to search it but there is no yak-130 with a tail hook so they probably won't be used for both.
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    Re: Russian Naval Aviation: News

    Post  Mike E on Sat Aug 30, 2014 6:41 pm

    Yeah, that is what I thought as well, but I could be wrong..


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    Re: Russian Naval Aviation: News

    Post  medo on Sat Aug 30, 2014 9:25 pm

    http://www.yak.ru/ENG/PROD/new_130m.php

    Interesting is, that Yakovlev show carrier trainer as one of Yak-130 versions. This one is the simplest modification. they only have to add the hook, strenghten the landing gear and add instruments for maritime navigation.
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    Anyone know, if Yak-130 for Navy will be equipped with arrester hook, or they will continue to use Su-25UTG for carrier operation trainings.

    Post  Mike E on Sat Aug 30, 2014 10:02 pm

    Huh, but you are right, the modification would be quick and easy.
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    Re: Russian Naval Aviation: News

    Post  George1 on Mon Feb 09, 2015 9:42 pm

    Prospects for the Russian Naval Aviation 2015

    1) Naval aviation eventually will receive more than 20 MiG-29Ks, which will become the basis for the formation of a new aviation military unit in the Northern Fleet

    2) Continue to repair and restore the Be-12.

    3) Pacific fleet will start receiving Il-38N.

    4) Active modernization of the existing and well-established anti-submarine helicopters Ka-27PL

    5) Black Sea Fleet will continue replacing Su-24 with Su-30SM. There are currently 2 contracts for 5 and 7 aircrafts

    6) Start the reception of rescue aircraft Be-200


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    Post  George1 on Sat Feb 14, 2015 3:45 pm

    Russia’s Naval Air Forces to Receive Brand New Landing System

    The system is expected to deliver a fully automatic landing approach which will resolve various problems with landing in bad weather conditions.

    Russia will develop a highly precise automatic carrier landing system for the Naval Forces, according to navy commander Major General Igor Kozhin.

    "Currently, we are designing a system that is expected to provide the accuracy of one meter near the landing point. Its development has already begun, and surely will be completed," Kozhin said.

    He also added that the system is expected to deliver a fully automatic landing approach which will resolve various problems with landing in bad weather conditions.

    Read more: http://sputniknews.com/politics/20150214/1018273030.html#ixzz3RjMNy95L
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    Re: Russian Naval Aviation: News

    Post  George1 on Thu Feb 19, 2015 2:28 pm

    Ka-27 Helicopters to Receive New Command and Tactical System

    Eight Ka-27 helicopters of the Russian Navy will be repaired, upgraded and fitted with a new radar command and tactical system. Russia plans to upgrade a total of 46 rotorcraft of this type. This information was presented by First Deputy CEO and Chief Designer of Russia’s Fazotron-NIIR, Yury Guskov.

    “The Russian Navy has decided to upgrade 46 Ka-27 helicopters prior to adopting new helicopters based on the Ka-50/Ka-52. The work will be carried out at JSC Kumertau Aviation Production Enterprise,” the official said.

    The new FHA system will include an airborne radar and a computer. The modernized Ka-27M will be able to detect all types of ships and submarines and will have an increased range of detection and destruction.

    “The helicopter with the FHA system has already passed state tests. Therefore, the first eight Ka-27Ms will be delivered to the Russian Navy in 2015,” Mr. Guskov concluded.
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    Re: Russian Naval Aviation: News

    Post  George1 on Sat Mar 21, 2015 12:26 am

    Carrier-based fighters Su-33 after modernization will serve for 10 years
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    Re: Russian Naval Aviation: News

    Post  flamming_python on Sat Mar 21, 2015 3:45 pm

    George1 wrote:Carrier-based fighters Su-33 after modernization will serve for 10 years

    OMG WTF is WRONG with these people!???
    I heard of this Su-33 'modernization' program once before, since I never heard of it again though I breathed easier and safely assigned it into the forgotten BS and bad ideas pile.

    But now this..

    Why spend money on this pointless modernization program if the MiG-29Ks are ready for duty?
    What was the point of developing the MiG-29K in the first place - just for India?
    In 10 years time, the naval PAK-FAs will be ready and the MiG-29K might as well be skipped altogether.

    I don't get the logic modernizing these well-worn shells, that take up way more room than the compact MiG-29Ks and neccessitate the precence of a completely different aircraft for training purposes; while not offering anything the MiG-29Ks can't offer.
    Even if the Kuznetsov isn't going to be floated in for refit and modernization anytime soon, there seems to be no justification for keeping these sea-worn veterans of the fleet around - they're due for retirement not modernization.

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