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    Re: Russian Naval Aviation: News

    Post  TR1 on Fri Jan 17, 2014 9:42 am

    http://lenta.ru/news/2014/01/17/su30sm/

    Well it looks like the number is in between our guesses:

    MOD wants to sign contracts for around 50 Su-30SM and 10 Yak-130 for the VMF.

    Curious why VMF won't just use the VVS Yaks....and where will these be based.

    A lot of work for Irkut, even with plans to phase out Flanker production by end of decade.
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    Post  TR1 on Fri Jan 17, 2014 9:51 am

    http://www.vedomosti.ru/politics/news/21448481/sushki-dlya-flota

    More details.

    Total cost of the deals is estimated to be around 2 billion dollars.

    Seems like a pretty good deal cost wise. Huge deal for Irkut.

    First planes will be delivered by the end of 2015, if everything goes to plan.
    The SMs will be based in Crimea (guess they worked things out with the Ukrainians? Why do I have a feeling that will be a problem in 5 years time), Kamchatka, and Kaliningrad.
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    Re: Russian Naval Aviation: News

    Post  GJ Flanker on Fri Jan 17, 2014 4:08 pm

    2 bil. US-$, maybe it will be split like this:

    10 Yak-130 x 20 mil./Yak-130 = 200 mil. US-$
    50 Su-30SM x 36 mil./Su-30SM = 1.800 mil. US-$
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    Re: Russian Naval Aviation: News

    Post  medo on Fri Jan 17, 2014 5:03 pm

    50 Su-30SM are only 4 squadrons (4x12), they need at least 2 more squadrons, 1 for Vladivostok and 1 for Murmansk. I hope air force will also buy additional 60 Su-30SM. With increasing production Irkut could build around 200 fighters till 2020.
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    Re: Russian Naval Aviation: News

    Post  GJ Flanker on Fri Jan 17, 2014 5:08 pm

    I heard somewhere that there is an option for additional 30 Su-30SM for the RuAF (VVS).

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    Post  calripson on Sat Jan 18, 2014 4:59 am

    The most likely point of actual conflict between NATO and Russia would in fact be a naval conflict - in the Black Sea for instance over another Georgia conflict. Given that, I would think dedicated naval aviation for Russia would be a good idea specifically naval strike assets (not sure how Su 30SM stacks up against Su 34). I would agree that at a minimum Russia would need the Baltic covered from Kaliningrad, Murmansk, the Black Sea, Caspian, Kamchatka, and Vladivostok. That is at a minimum 72 aircraft. Large numbers of land based anti-ship missiles would be needed to complement those assets as well as S 400 coverage for those locations.
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    Re: Russian Naval Aviation: News

    Post  flamming_python on Sat Jan 18, 2014 11:31 am

    Can probably skip the air coverage of the Caspain, Russia is already armed to the teeth there as it is.
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    Post  medo on Sat Jan 18, 2014 1:00 pm

    flamming_python wrote:Can probably skip the air coverage of the Caspain, Russia is already armed to the teeth there as it is.

    Why? 1 squadron in Black Sea and 1 squadron on Caspian could better cover Caucasus, not to mention, that Caspian sea is important oil field and there are pipelines. Caspian squadron could well cover northern Iran, Azerbaijan, Turkmenistan and Kazakhstan Caspian shore. It is practically more important than Black Sea.
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    Russian Navy Pilot Training Center Completion Delayed To November.

    Post  Flyingdutchman on Thu Jan 23, 2014 8:37 pm

    MOSCOW, December 25 (RIA Novosti) – The Russian navy has pushed back the intended in-service date for a new deck-landing training installation by almost a year for undisclosed reasons, a building contractor involved in the project said Wednesday.
    The facility, known by its Russian acronym NITKA and being built in the Black Sea town of Yeisk, was originally due to enter service this month, the Defense Ministry said as recently as October.
    “The work schedule for NITKA has been delayed to November 2014,” said a management source from a contractor company involved in the project. The source did not say why the project had been delayed, but said it was at the Defense Ministry’s initiative and “was not connected to the state of the project. From our side, it was all ready to hand over in December this year.”
    Russian navy pilots previously used a similar facility nearby in Ukraine’s Crimean Peninsula under a 1997 bilateral agreement, but Moscow told Kiev in September that it would stop using that base.
    The Russian Defense Ministry had previously said it was willing to upgrade the Ukrainian facility.
    A Russian navy Sukhoi Su-25UTG trainer made the first flight from the new Yeisk facility in July to test its ski-jump configuration runway, which simulates the flight deck of Russia’s only aircraft carrier, the Admiral Kuznetsov.
    The navy currently operates Sukhoi Su-33 fighters from the carrier but is in the process of receiving the new Mikoyan MiG-29K, capable of air defense and strike missions.
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    Re: Russian Naval Aviation: News

    Post  GarryB on Fri Jan 24, 2014 1:18 am

    The optimist that I am thinks the delay of a year might be to install new catapult systems for training to use new carriers and the upgraded K...

    Or it could be that all the radar and communication equipment needs to be upgraded... but I would think they should have already anticipated this and put new radar and sensor equipment in in the first place.

    It really only makes sense to me if they have just decided to go for a cat in the K upgrade which makes it worth while to delay the opening of the new facility while they add it there.

    The added advantage is that it will be installed in a year, but will allow practise and training with the system for quite some time before the upgraded K is back in service so hopefully they will iron out all the kinks is problems with the system.


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    Russian Navy Pilot Training Center Completion Delayed To November.

    Post  Flyingdutchman on Fri Jan 24, 2014 8:01 am

    GarryB wrote:The optimist that I am thinks the delay of a year might be to install new catapult systems for training to use new carriers and the upgraded K...

    Or it could be that all the radar and communication equipment needs to be upgraded... but I would think they should have already anticipated this and put new radar and sensor equipment in in the first place.

    It really only makes sense to me if they have just decided to go for a cat in the K upgrade which makes it worth while to delay the opening of the new facility while they add it there.

    The added advantage is that it will be installed in a year, but will allow practise and training with the system for quite some time before the upgraded K is back in service so hopefully they will iron out all the kinks is problems with the system.

    That would be awesome!
    Can the mig-29k be launched with cats?
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    Re: Russian Naval Aviation: News

    Post  TR1 on Tue Feb 25, 2014 11:17 pm

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    Post  George1 on Wed Jun 04, 2014 10:03 pm

    Russian Ministry of Defense will take delivery of the first Be-200 amphibian aircraft in 2014

    The first Be-200 assembled in Taganrog will be delivered to the customer by Beriev Aircraft Company (part of United Aircraft Corporation) this year. This is one of 12 aircraft of the type to be delivered to EMERCOM of Russia and Russian Ministry of Defense, press-service of UAC reports.

    "We plan to increase our output next year – we will deliver three Be-200s to EMERCOM and the Ministry of Defense", - Mikhail Pogosyan said.

    Implementation of contracts for production and overhaul of the aircraft will allow Beriev Aircraft Company to increase its revenues from 2 to 8,5 billion rubles, the president of UAC, Mikhail Pogosyan, noted.

    Speaking of personnel policy, CEO of Beriev Aircraft Company, Igor Garivadsky, noted that thanks to increase of the enterprise’s workload, the salary of its employees would be increased by 30%.

    This year the enterprise started recruiting new employees. In cooperation with Taganrog College named after V.M. Petlyakov the enterprise is implementing a project aimed at provision of dual education for fitters/riveters. Federal and regional budgets will allocate about 3 million rubles for purchasing training equipment; the enterprise will also allocate additional funds for the project. This project will allow training of high-skilled personnel having skills required by the enterprise.
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    Re: Russian Naval Aviation: News

    Post  George1 on Wed Jul 09, 2014 5:37 pm

    Russian Defense Ministry to restore Baltic amphibious plane base

    Baltic Fleet Commander Vice Admiral Viktor Chirkov had for the first time announced the plans for the aerodrome restoration on February 22, 2012

    MOSCOW, July 09. /ITAR-TASS/. Russia’s Defense Ministry made a decision to restore the base of amphibious planes on the Baltic Sea - Kosa marine aerodrome of the Baltic Fleet. The press service of the Federal Special Construction Agency (Spetsstroi) told ITAR-TASS that “the main department of Russia’s Spetsstroi for the Southern Federal District conducts the preparation for the fulfilment of this major task". The aerodrome’s water area and airstrip, places of aircraft parking and hangars for boats and equipment will be rebuilt.

    The fleet has a demand for float planes. They can be used for the transportation of soldiers, in sea search and rescue operations and patrolling. Baltic Fleet Commander Vice Admiral Viktor Chirkov had for the first time announced the plans for the aerodrome restoration on February 22, 2012. He told the press that the Be-200 amphibious planes that are to be delivered to the antisubmarine aviation will be based on the Vistula Spit, where a marine aerodrome will be built for these purposes. The sea harbor there, the commander said, had already been examined by fleet experts and engineers, and the site for the airstrip construction had been determined.

    During the Soviet and post-Soviet period, Kosa was successfully used as a base for amphibious planes. Later, when antisubmarine aviation was withdrawn from the aerodrome, the whole complex of buildings, amenities, as well as hydro facilities, was ruined. Spetsstroi has promised in a short period of time to restore “the former pride of naval aviation".
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    Re: Russian Naval Aviation: News

    Post  George1 on Tue Jul 15, 2014 9:36 am

    First Modernized Il-38N ASW Plane to Be Delivered to Russian Navy on July 15

    MOSCOW, July 14 (RIA Novosti) — The first modernized Il-38N anti-submarine warfare plane will be delivered to the Russian Navy on July 15, an Ilyushin Aviation Complex spokesperson told RIA Novosti.

    «The company completed repair and modernization work on the first mass-produced Il-38N anti-submarine warfare plane for the Russian Navy. The work was completed under a contract that provides for the modernization of five combat aircraft," according to a spokesperson for the Ilyushin Aviation Complex, a subsidiary of Russia’s United Aircraft Corporation.

    The modernization included the installment of the new Novella-P-38 search and tracking system, which significantly expands the plane’s capacity.

    At the request of Maritime Air Command, the first mass-produced modernized plane was named after designer Rady Papkovsky, who played an important role in creating the Il-38N.
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    Re: Russian Naval Aviation: News

    Post  mack8 on Sat Jul 19, 2014 5:50 pm

    Nice article on the future of VMF aviation:
    http://russiancouncil.ru/inner/?id_4=4087#top
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    Re: Russian Naval Aviation: News

    Post  medo on Fri Aug 29, 2014 10:29 pm

    Anyone know, if Yak-130 for Navy will be equipped with arrester hook, or they will continue to use Su-25UTG for carrier operation trainings.
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    Re: Russian Naval Aviation: News

    Post  TR1 on Fri Aug 29, 2014 10:34 pm

    medo wrote:Anyone know, if Yak-130 for Navy will be equipped with arrester hook, or they will continue to use Su-25UTG for carrier operation trainings.

    I think they just intend to use MiG-29KUB. UTG is almost dead, and Yak-130s are for land base use.
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    Re: Russian Naval Aviation: News

    Post  Flyingdutchman on Fri Aug 29, 2014 10:37 pm

    TR1 wrote:
    medo wrote:Anyone know, if Yak-130 for Navy will be equipped with arrester hook, or they will continue to use Su-25UTG for carrier operation trainings.

    I think they just intend to use MiG-29KUB. UTG is almost dead, and Yak-130s are for land base use.

    KUB almost for sure!
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    Re: Russian Naval Aviation: News

    Post  medo on Fri Aug 29, 2014 10:41 pm

    TR1 wrote:
    medo wrote:Anyone know, if Yak-130 for Navy will be equipped with arrester hook, or they will continue to use Su-25UTG for carrier operation trainings.

    I think they just intend to use MiG-29KUB. UTG is almost dead, and Yak-130s are for land base use.

    MiG-29KUB will be on carrier. Yak-130 will be on naval ground training center (Crimea or in Russia), where they have ski jump and arrester wires for trainings of new pilots, before they will go to carrier. maybe they will order more MiG-29KUB for training center for this task.
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    Re: Russian Naval Aviation: News

    Post  Cyberspec on Sat Aug 30, 2014 4:58 am

    Finally the first 2 Ka-27M to enter service by the end of 2014.

    Arrow http://vpk-news.ru/news/21557

    The main new feature is the Kopyo-A radar

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    Finally the first 2 Ka-27M to enter service by the end of 2014.

    Post  Mike E on Sat Aug 30, 2014 5:04 am

    Good, the more advanced the ASW technology the better. It should be #1 for all navies.
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    Re: Russian Naval Aviation: News

    Post  Flyingdutchman on Sat Aug 30, 2014 12:58 pm

    medo wrote:
    TR1 wrote:
    medo wrote:Anyone know, if Yak-130 for Navy will be equipped with arrester hook, or they will continue to use Su-25UTG for carrier operation trainings.

    I think they just intend to use MiG-29KUB. UTG is almost dead, and Yak-130s are for land base use.

    MiG-29KUB will be on carrier. Yak-130 will be on naval ground training center (Crimea or in Russia), where they have ski jump and arrester wires for trainings of new pilots, before they will go to carrier. maybe they will order more MiG-29KUB for training center for this task.

    i tried to search it but there is no yak-130 with a tail hook so they probably won't be used for both.
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    Re: Russian Naval Aviation: News

    Post  Mike E on Sat Aug 30, 2014 6:41 pm

    Yeah, that is what I thought as well, but I could be wrong..


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    Re: Russian Naval Aviation: News

    Post  medo on Sat Aug 30, 2014 9:25 pm

    http://www.yak.ru/ENG/PROD/new_130m.php

    Interesting is, that Yakovlev show carrier trainer as one of Yak-130 versions. This one is the simplest modification. they only have to add the hook, strenghten the landing gear and add instruments for maritime navigation.

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