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    Re: Russian Naval Aviation: News

    Post  TR1 on Thu Jan 16, 2014 9:05 pm

    Well I am not sure about 60, the translation is "several tens of planes", could be ~30, which was the number floated earlier. They are buying MiG-29Ks so the budget needs to be balanced between the two.
    How many Su-24s does Naval Aviation even operate? It is a couple dozen IIRC.

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    Re: Russian Naval Aviation: News

    Post  medo on Thu Jan 16, 2014 9:19 pm

    Viktor wrote:Interesting article on bmpd wich is in line with medo thoughts

    Purchase of Su-30cm and Yak-130 aircraft for the Russian Navy Marine and problems with the Su-35S

    According to bmpd blog Russian MoD contracted 5 Su-30SM and 5 YAK-130 for Russian Navy by the end of 2013. But this is the sentence that caught my eye.

    According bmpd, was contracted five Su-30cm and five Yak-130, and further possible purchase for Marine aviation several dozen Su-30cm and a certain amount of the Yak-130

    and this is the part in line what medo was saying. Several dozen indicate at least 60 Su-30SM and possibly even more Su-30SM on order for RuAN and nice amount of YAK-130. All in all we

    might be seeing another 100+ fighter on order.  cheers 

    Maybe those 5 Su-30SM are ordered for this year additionally to 14 Su-30SM, which they need to complete a regiment in Far East. Maybe in next years Irkut will increase production to whole regiment per year, where 1 squadron will go to air force and 1 squadron to navy.

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    Re: Russian Naval Aviation: News

    Post  medo on Thu Jan 16, 2014 9:21 pm

    TR1 wrote:Well I am not sure about 60, the translation is "several tens of planes", could be ~30, which was the number floated earlier. They are buying MiG-29Ks so the budget needs to be balanced between the two.
    How many Su-24s does Naval Aviation even operate? It is a couple dozen IIRC.

    60 ordered Su-30SM are for air force. All planes for navy will be new order.

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    Re: Russian Naval Aviation: News

    Post  Viktor on Fri Jan 17, 2014 1:36 am

    TR1 wrote:Well I am not sure about 60, the translation is "several tens of planes", could be ~30, which was the number floated earlier. They are buying MiG-29Ks so the budget needs to be balanced between the two.
    How many Su-24s does Naval Aviation even operate? It is a couple dozen IIRC.

    Few: 1-4
    Several: 5-7
    Dozen: 12

    So several dozen = 60 planes at minimum (5x12)  Very Happy

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    Post  TR1 on Fri Jan 17, 2014 1:38 am

    But the exact wording was "tens" in Russian, not dozens. "Neskolko" means several- that could be anywhere from 20-40-60 planes.
    They are replacing the Su-24s, of which there are only like 2 dozen in service. What would the Naval Aviation be replacing with 60 SMs, let alone more?

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    Post  TR1 on Fri Jan 17, 2014 9:42 am

    http://lenta.ru/news/2014/01/17/su30sm/

    Well it looks like the number is in between our guesses:

    MOD wants to sign contracts for around 50 Su-30SM and 10 Yak-130 for the VMF.

    Curious why VMF won't just use the VVS Yaks....and where will these be based.

    A lot of work for Irkut, even with plans to phase out Flanker production by end of decade.

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    Post  TR1 on Fri Jan 17, 2014 9:51 am

    http://www.vedomosti.ru/politics/news/21448481/sushki-dlya-flota

    More details.

    Total cost of the deals is estimated to be around 2 billion dollars.

    Seems like a pretty good deal cost wise. Huge deal for Irkut.

    First planes will be delivered by the end of 2015, if everything goes to plan.
    The SMs will be based in Crimea (guess they worked things out with the Ukrainians? Why do I have a feeling that will be a problem in 5 years time), Kamchatka, and Kaliningrad.

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    Post  GJ Flanker on Fri Jan 17, 2014 4:08 pm

    2 bil. US-$, maybe it will be split like this:

    10 Yak-130 x 20 mil./Yak-130 = 200 mil. US-$
    50 Su-30SM x 36 mil./Su-30SM = 1.800 mil. US-$

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    Post  medo on Fri Jan 17, 2014 5:03 pm

    50 Su-30SM are only 4 squadrons (4x12), they need at least 2 more squadrons, 1 for Vladivostok and 1 for Murmansk. I hope air force will also buy additional 60 Su-30SM. With increasing production Irkut could build around 200 fighters till 2020.

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    Post  GJ Flanker on Fri Jan 17, 2014 5:08 pm

    I heard somewhere that there is an option for additional 30 Su-30SM for the RuAF (VVS).

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    Post  TR1 on Tue Feb 25, 2014 11:17 pm

    http://www.gusda.ru/upload/iblock/e02/DSC_0021.JPG

    Eisk, last year.

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    Post  George1 on Wed Jun 04, 2014 10:03 pm

    Russian Ministry of Defense will take delivery of the first Be-200 amphibian aircraft in 2014

    The first Be-200 assembled in Taganrog will be delivered to the customer by Beriev Aircraft Company (part of United Aircraft Corporation) this year. This is one of 12 aircraft of the type to be delivered to EMERCOM of Russia and Russian Ministry of Defense, press-service of UAC reports.

    "We plan to increase our output next year – we will deliver three Be-200s to EMERCOM and the Ministry of Defense", - Mikhail Pogosyan said.

    Implementation of contracts for production and overhaul of the aircraft will allow Beriev Aircraft Company to increase its revenues from 2 to 8,5 billion rubles, the president of UAC, Mikhail Pogosyan, noted.

    Speaking of personnel policy, CEO of Beriev Aircraft Company, Igor Garivadsky, noted that thanks to increase of the enterprise’s workload, the salary of its employees would be increased by 30%.

    This year the enterprise started recruiting new employees. In cooperation with Taganrog College named after V.M. Petlyakov the enterprise is implementing a project aimed at provision of dual education for fitters/riveters. Federal and regional budgets will allocate about 3 million rubles for purchasing training equipment; the enterprise will also allocate additional funds for the project. This project will allow training of high-skilled personnel having skills required by the enterprise.

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    Post  George1 on Wed Jul 09, 2014 5:37 pm

    Russian Defense Ministry to restore Baltic amphibious plane base

    Baltic Fleet Commander Vice Admiral Viktor Chirkov had for the first time announced the plans for the aerodrome restoration on February 22, 2012

    MOSCOW, July 09. /ITAR-TASS/. Russia’s Defense Ministry made a decision to restore the base of amphibious planes on the Baltic Sea - Kosa marine aerodrome of the Baltic Fleet. The press service of the Federal Special Construction Agency (Spetsstroi) told ITAR-TASS that “the main department of Russia’s Spetsstroi for the Southern Federal District conducts the preparation for the fulfilment of this major task". The aerodrome’s water area and airstrip, places of aircraft parking and hangars for boats and equipment will be rebuilt.

    The fleet has a demand for float planes. They can be used for the transportation of soldiers, in sea search and rescue operations and patrolling. Baltic Fleet Commander Vice Admiral Viktor Chirkov had for the first time announced the plans for the aerodrome restoration on February 22, 2012. He told the press that the Be-200 amphibious planes that are to be delivered to the antisubmarine aviation will be based on the Vistula Spit, where a marine aerodrome will be built for these purposes. The sea harbor there, the commander said, had already been examined by fleet experts and engineers, and the site for the airstrip construction had been determined.

    During the Soviet and post-Soviet period, Kosa was successfully used as a base for amphibious planes. Later, when antisubmarine aviation was withdrawn from the aerodrome, the whole complex of buildings, amenities, as well as hydro facilities, was ruined. Spetsstroi has promised in a short period of time to restore “the former pride of naval aviation".

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    Re: Russian Naval Aviation: News

    Post  George1 on Tue Jul 15, 2014 9:36 am

    First Modernized Il-38N ASW Plane to Be Delivered to Russian Navy on July 15

    MOSCOW, July 14 (RIA Novosti) — The first modernized Il-38N anti-submarine warfare plane will be delivered to the Russian Navy on July 15, an Ilyushin Aviation Complex spokesperson told RIA Novosti.

    «The company completed repair and modernization work on the first mass-produced Il-38N anti-submarine warfare plane for the Russian Navy. The work was completed under a contract that provides for the modernization of five combat aircraft," according to a spokesperson for the Ilyushin Aviation Complex, a subsidiary of Russia’s United Aircraft Corporation.

    The modernization included the installment of the new Novella-P-38 search and tracking system, which significantly expands the plane’s capacity.

    At the request of Maritime Air Command, the first mass-produced modernized plane was named after designer Rady Papkovsky, who played an important role in creating the Il-38N.

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    Re: Russian Naval Aviation: News

    Post  mack8 on Sat Jul 19, 2014 5:50 pm

    Nice article on the future of VMF aviation:
    http://russiancouncil.ru/inner/?id_4=4087#top

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    Post  George1 on Tue Dec 23, 2014 5:35 pm

    Russian Defense Ministry will spend more than 2 billion rubles for buoys for Naval Aviation

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    Post  George1 on Mon Feb 09, 2015 9:42 pm

    Prospects for the Russian Naval Aviation 2015

    1) Naval aviation eventually will receive more than 20 MiG-29Ks, which will become the basis for the formation of a new aviation military unit in the Northern Fleet

    2) Continue to repair and restore the Be-12.

    3) Pacific fleet will start receiving Il-38N.

    4) Active modernization of the existing and well-established anti-submarine helicopters Ka-27PL

    5) Black Sea Fleet will continue replacing Su-24 with Su-30SM. There are currently 2 contracts for 5 and 7 aircrafts

    6) Start the reception of rescue aircraft Be-200


    http://bmpd.livejournal.com/1173208.html

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    Post  George1 on Sat Feb 14, 2015 3:45 pm

    Russia’s Naval Air Forces to Receive Brand New Landing System

    The system is expected to deliver a fully automatic landing approach which will resolve various problems with landing in bad weather conditions.

    Russia will develop a highly precise automatic carrier landing system for the Naval Forces, according to navy commander Major General Igor Kozhin.

    "Currently, we are designing a system that is expected to provide the accuracy of one meter near the landing point. Its development has already begun, and surely will be completed," Kozhin said.

    He also added that the system is expected to deliver a fully automatic landing approach which will resolve various problems with landing in bad weather conditions.

    Read more: http://sputniknews.com/politics/20150214/1018273030.html#ixzz3RjMNy95L

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    Post  George1 on Thu Feb 19, 2015 2:28 pm

    Ka-27 Helicopters to Receive New Command and Tactical System

    Eight Ka-27 helicopters of the Russian Navy will be repaired, upgraded and fitted with a new radar command and tactical system. Russia plans to upgrade a total of 46 rotorcraft of this type. This information was presented by First Deputy CEO and Chief Designer of Russia’s Fazotron-NIIR, Yury Guskov.

    “The Russian Navy has decided to upgrade 46 Ka-27 helicopters prior to adopting new helicopters based on the Ka-50/Ka-52. The work will be carried out at JSC Kumertau Aviation Production Enterprise,” the official said.

    The new FHA system will include an airborne radar and a computer. The modernized Ka-27M will be able to detect all types of ships and submarines and will have an increased range of detection and destruction.

    “The helicopter with the FHA system has already passed state tests. Therefore, the first eight Ka-27Ms will be delivered to the Russian Navy in 2015,” Mr. Guskov concluded.

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    Post  George1 on Wed Feb 25, 2015 10:30 pm

    New aircraft of the Russian naval aviation will be able to perform unmanned flights
    Russian Aviaton » Wednesday February 25, 2015 14:42 MSK

    Command of the Russian naval aviation wants the aircraft industry to develop aircraft and helicopters able to perform both manned and unmanned flights, Chief of the naval aviation of Russian NAVY, Major General Igor Kozhin, told RIA Novosti.

    “The next-generation aircraft and helicopters will be able to perform both manned and unmanned flights depending on the mission. That’s the goal we have set for the industry and we believe that it is attainable,” Kozhin said.

    He added that the pilot don’t have to risk his life during test flights covering 3 or 4 thousand kilometers, because the aircraft may do it itself.

    Nevertheless, according to him, it is impossible to operate a fully unmanned aerial vehicle, because there are situations, when a human must make a decision.

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    Post  George1 on Thu Mar 19, 2015 11:44 am

    Russia's Baltic Fleet Naval Aviation Conducts Training Flights

    The Russian Defense Ministry reported that the crews of Su-27 fighter jets and Su-24M bombers of the Baltic Fleet's naval aviation conducted a series of night training flights as a part of snap combat readiness drills in the Barents Sea.

    MOSCOW (Sputnik) — The crews of the Baltic Fleet's naval aviation conducted a series of night training operations and are planning to practice bombing shortly, the Russian Defense Ministry's press service said Thursday.

    "As part of the large-scale exercise…the crews of Su-27 fighter jets and Su-24M bombers of the Baltic Fleet's naval aviation conducted a series of night training flights," the press service said.

    According to the press service, Su-24M bombers will also practice striking ground targets located on the Baltic Fleet's range.

    On Wednesday, Russia's Western Military District said more than 20 ships of the Baltic Fleet were conducting defense drills. The tactical groups involved in the exercise included diesel-electric submarines, small missile and anti-submarine boats as well as minesweepers and various ships of the auxiliary fleet.

    Earlier on Wednesday, the Russian Defense Ministry said that the Russian Navy had started battle drills in the Barents Sea.

    Military drills are also taking place in the Black Sea, with Russia's Black Sea Fleet conducting search for a simulated enemy's submarines and carrying out minesweeping tasks.

    Read more: http://sputniknews.com/military/20150319/1019702291.html#ixzz3UpKxILBb

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    Re: Russian Naval Aviation: News

    Post  George1 on Sat Mar 21, 2015 12:26 am

    Carrier-based fighters Su-33 after modernization will serve for 10 years

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    Post  flamming_python on Sat Mar 21, 2015 3:45 pm

    George1 wrote:Carrier-based fighters Su-33 after modernization will serve for 10 years

    OMG WTF is WRONG with these people!???
    I heard of this Su-33 'modernization' program once before, since I never heard of it again though I breathed easier and safely assigned it into the forgotten BS and bad ideas pile.

    But now this..

    Why spend money on this pointless modernization program if the MiG-29Ks are ready for duty?
    What was the point of developing the MiG-29K in the first place - just for India?
    In 10 years time, the naval PAK-FAs will be ready and the MiG-29K might as well be skipped altogether.

    I don't get the logic modernizing these well-worn shells, that take up way more room than the compact MiG-29Ks and neccessitate the precence of a completely different aircraft for training purposes; while not offering anything the MiG-29Ks can't offer.
    Even if the Kuznetsov isn't going to be floated in for refit and modernization anytime soon, there seems to be no justification for keeping these sea-worn veterans of the fleet around - they're due for retirement not modernization.

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    Post  George1 on Sat Mar 21, 2015 3:55 pm

    flamming_python wrote:
    But now this..

    Why spend money on this pointless modernization program if the MiG-29Ks are ready for duty?
    What was the point of developing the MiG-29K in the first place - just for India?
    In 10 years time, the naval PAK-FAs will be ready and the MiG-29K might as well be skipped altogether.

    I don't get the logic modernizing these well-worn shells, that take up way more room than the compact MiG-29Ks and neccessitate the precence of a completely different aircraft for training purposes; while not offering anything the MiG-29Ks can't offer.
    Even if the Kuznetsov isn't going to be floated in for refit and modernization anytime soon, there seems to be no justification for keeping these sea-worn veterans of the fleet around - they're due for retirement not modernization.

    Refit will take at least 5-6 years. And maybe more because of corruption or lack of experience in aircraft carriers. So thats why they haven't implemented it yet. Ι think that in order Kuznetsov to recieve all 24 MiG-29Ks need refit from the other hand (Granit removal).

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    Re: Russian Naval Aviation: News

    Post  medo on Sat Mar 21, 2015 7:47 pm

    George1 wrote:Carrier-based fighters Su-33 after modernization will serve for 10 years

    They will most probably modernize Su-33 to Su-27SM or SM3 standard. Most probably they will replace radar with N001VEP or Zhuk-MS radar and I hope they will also replace IRST with the one from Su-30 which also have TV and laser designator inside. Maybe they will also install more powerful AL-31FM1 engines and MAWS sensors.

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