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    Re: Russian Naval Aviation: News

    Post  Austin on Tue Sep 20, 2016 10:07 am

    "Wolf pack" against the US and NATO?
    Naval Fleet of Russia in Western estimates experts

    http://nationaldefense.ru/includes/periodics/maintheme/2016/0719/132618919/detail.shtml

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    Re: Russian Naval Aviation: News

    Post  medo on Thu Sep 29, 2016 6:03 pm



    Modernized Su-33 b/n 78, behind the cockpit is clearly seen a new white satellite navigation antenna.

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    Re: Russian Naval Aviation: News

    Post  GarryB on Fri Sep 30, 2016 11:00 am

    And jammer pods on the wing tips... this is probably a pilot training to operate near Syria over the next few months.

    I wonder if we should pass on to a certain website that they may have one trained pilot on board the Kuznetsov... Razz

    Beautiful aircraft...


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    Re: Russian Naval Aviation: News

    Post  medo on Fri Sep 30, 2016 8:40 pm

    Most probably both, testing and pilot training in Zhukovsky. No doubt, Pastel ELINT complex, chaff and flare launchers and ECM pods will give Su-33 good self protection over Syria. But considering, that their primary mission beyond Syria will be over the sea patroling between Murmansk and Franz Joseph islands in Arctic, it will be very important to equip them with N001VEP radar, which have air to sea modes and could detect frigates at the range of 350 km and could use anti-ship missiles. MiG-31BM is interceptor only.

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    Re: Russian Naval Aviation: News

    Post  franco on Sun Oct 02, 2016 12:39 pm

    9th Su-30SM to Crimea with another scheduled by years end.

    http://bmpd.livejournal.com/2160364.html

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    Re: Russian Naval Aviation: News

    Post  medo on Mon Oct 03, 2016 8:16 pm

    http://www.aex.ru/news/2016/10/3/160470/

    3 октября 2016 г., AEX.RU – Объединенная двигателестроительная корпорация (ОДК, входит в Госкорпорацию Ростех) в обеспечение потребностей государственного заказчика возобновляет производство турбореактивных двигателей АЛ-31Ф серии 3 для палубных истребителей Су-33. Двигатели будут выпускаться в ПАО «Уфимское моторостроительное производственное объединение» (входит в ОДК), сообщает пресс-служба корпорации.

    Двигатели АЛ-31Ф серии 3 разрабатывались и производились специально для Су-33. С учетом того эволюционного развития, которое прошло семейство двигателей АЛ-31Ф с момента выпуска последних двигателей серии 3, новые двигатели для морских тяжелых истребителей будут выпускаться с внедрением доработок, которые уже применены на двигателях семейства АЛ-31Ф современного серийного облика.

    ODK will in its factory in Ufa restart a production of new engones AL-31F series 3 specially for Su-33 fighters and new engines Will receive same modifications as the newest series of AL-31F engines, what specially mean longer life time.

    As I doubt Russia will restart Su-33 production, I more think existing Su-33 will go through deeper modernization to serve for few more decades with new engines.

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    Re: Russian Naval Aviation: News

    Post  GarryB on Tue Oct 04, 2016 4:28 am

    I suspect they wont get deep modernisations...

    They are CAP aircraft to defend the carrier and the ships operating with it.

    I would say any basic strike capacity will be largely limited to the Su-33 with dumb bombs using their computerised bombing system but the primary strike fighter will be the MiG-33s.

    The other strike capability of the fleet will come from surface and sub launched cruise missiles.

    With landing forces I suspect the Ka-52K will do the brunt of CAS.


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    Re: Russian Naval Aviation: News

    Post  medo on Tue Oct 04, 2016 7:12 pm

    I don't see a sense to re-engine Su-33 fighters with new engines with longer service life, if they will not go into deeper modernization. Considering that its main mission will be over the sea patroling in Arctic region from Severomorsk ground base, that its main armament will be anti-ship missiles and radar capable to search for ships and guide anti-ship missiles on them. The only N001 type of radar with air to sea capabilities is N001VEP and considering that four users of Su-30MK2 equipped with N001VEP radar (Chinese NAVY, Vietnam, Indonesia and Venezuela) are using their Su-30MK2 for over the sea patrolings and that all anti-ship missiles Kh-31A, Kh-35 and Kh-59MK are integrated with N001VEP, this radar is the best option for Su-33 modernization. It have longer range than old N001 radar, it is multirole with air to air, air to ground and air to sea modes and could attack enemy ships with anti-ship missiles at 300 km distance.

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    Re: Russian Naval Aviation: News

    Post  GarryB on Wed Oct 05, 2016 9:28 am

    New engines offer more power and better fuel economy... both of which are useful for an interceptor.

    It would also offer better commonality with new land based aircraft if it is the same engine type.

    The anti ship role is more likely to be taken by the MiG-29Ks rather than the Su-33s.


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    Re: Russian Naval Aviation: News

    Post  kopyo-21 on Thu Nov 03, 2016 2:16 pm

    medo wrote:

    For now we know, that two borts b/n 88 and 71 were modernized. The Picture of pilot in Su-33 b/n 79 with a display on his knee is not from modernized Su-33. We still do not know, what changes will this SVP-24 modernization bring inside Su-33 cockpit. I hope they will replace old radar screen with new LCD MFD or even better to made its cockpit similar to Su-27SM.

    That is ЕКП-НТ tablet that belongs to A-737 GPS/Glonass navigator that Su-33s got in small upgrade by early of 2000s. Its function is to show the sattellite moving map. This one looks very similar to the one in between of OR4-TM TV LED and VM-10 LCD in the photo below.


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    Re: Russian Naval Aviation: News

    Post  medo on Fri Nov 18, 2016 12:04 am

    Now, we have some indications, that modernized Su-33 got a new display instead of old radar screen, but for now we do not know, how this new MFD looks like.

    Before:


    After modernization:


    Maybe it is like this one in Su-30KN:


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    Re: Russian Naval Aviation: News

    Post  medo on Fri Nov 18, 2016 9:42 am

    Regarding quick Su-33 upgrade with Gefest, there are few thinks which bother me. Gefest didn't promote any Flanker upgrade and they didn't upgrade any Flanker before or test their equipment with Flanker as they did with other jets like Su-24, Tu-22 and Su-25. Than suddenly they made quick upgrade of 8 Su-33 in Zhukovsky with very little time to test equipment and to train pilots to use it in combat missions. I would dare to say, that they upgrade Su-33 with components of upgrade program, which is well tested and operational and there is only one beside Su-27SM program in KNAAPO. It is Su-30KN program from Irkut of cheap multirole Su-30 fighter. It is operational program and RuAF have 4 Su-30KN in Lipetsk training center. Also Irkut deliver this upgrade program to Belarussian Aviation repair plant in Baranovitchi, where they modernize ex-Indian Su-30K for Angola as well as they modernize their own and Kazakhstan's Su-27 fighters. In this upgrade old radar screen is replaced by 1 MFD and looks like Su-33 similarly got 1 MFD replacing old radar screen. This program also upgrade radar with better capabilities and with additional air to ground and air to sea modes without replacing the whole radar.

    It is interesting, that they were hiding this upgraded part of cockpit all the time in Zhukovsky and even now they didn't yet show this MFD. This upgrade program would make sense for Su-33 as pilots could train well before planes were modernized by Su-30KN fighters in Lipetsk, it is oprational, so no loose of time to integrate new equipment in the jet, so no problem for pilots to go with newly upgraded Su-33 in two months in combat missions in Syria. After all, this program give Su-33 fire control cpmplex the same capabilities to bomb with unguided bombs as Gefest upgrades do. Maybe Gefest upgrade was just a fog as components could come from Belarus as I doubt Irkut produce them.

    Web site of Belarussian Su-27 modernization.

    http://www.558arp.by/en/products-and-services-eng/services-eng/modernization-aviation-materiel-eng/su-27-30-aircraft-eng

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    Re: Russian Naval Aviation: News

    Post  franco on Tue Nov 22, 2016 10:47 pm

    MOSCOW, November 22 - RIA Novosti. Naval aviation Naval Fleet of Russia will receive six Su-30sm before the end of the year, the two anti-IL-38, as well as 10 helicopters of various modifications, said Tuesday the commander of the Russian Navy Admiral Vladimir Korolev.

    In St. Petersburg on Tuesday held an enlarged meeting of the Military Council of the Navy, where the results of combat training and preparation of the Russian Navy were announced in 2016. The meeting, which was chaired by the Commander, attended by the commanders of the Northern, Pacific, Black Sea, the Baltic Fleet and the Caspian Flotilla. In the work of the Military Council was also attended by Commander of the Western Military District Colonel-General Andrei Kartapolov.

    "In the course of equipping naval aviation in its composition has received a considerable amount of modern equipment and weapons before the year six Su-30sm arrive at the naval aviation weapons, two IL-38 as well as 10 helicopters of various modifications.", - Said the Commander.

    In total, according to the contract "Aviation Complex. Ilyushin" must pass the Defense Ministry 20 modernized anti-aircraft Il-38N to 2020.

    Production of the Su-30sm conducted at the Irkutsk aircraft plant. In accordance with the contract signed with the Ministry of Defense, until 2018 VCS RF to be transmitted 88 fighter and the Navy Naval Aviation - 28.

    Su-30sm is a super-maneuverable multi-role fighters for gaining dominance in the air generation "4 ++". He combined the functions and fighter and attack aircraft and bombers, equipped with radar with a phased antenna array, engines with thrust vector control and canards.

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    Re: Russian Naval Aviation: News

    Post  franco on Tue Nov 29, 2016 7:46 pm

    Navy to receive first modernized Ka-27M's in December;
    https://en.ria.ru/military/201611291047980098-aviation-russia-helicopter/

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    Re: Russian Naval Aviation: News

    Post  George1 on Tue Nov 29, 2016 11:39 pm

    Yes 8 says here

    Read more: https://sputniknews.com/military/201611291047980098-aviation-russia-helicopter/


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    Any ideas why the Su-33s r currently being flown not from Adm.K?

    Post  Tsavo Lion on Thu Dec 01, 2016 7:15 pm

    Any ideas why the Su-33s r currently being flown not from Adm.K?
    http://www.janes.com/article/65775/russian-carrier-jets-flying-from-syria-not-kuznetsov

    Pl. someone explain how to make a hyperlink here.

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    Post  Militarov on Thu Dec 01, 2016 7:30 pm

    Tsavo Lion wrote:Any ideas why the Su-33s r currently being flown not from Adm.K?
    http://www.janes.com/article/65775/russian-carrier-jets-flying-from-syria-not-kuznetsov

    Pl. someone explain how to make a hyperlink here.

    Arresting gear on Kuz is atm not operational after the incident with MiG-29K. So aircraft cant land back on it after they take off.

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    Post  Tsavo Lion on Thu Dec 01, 2016 9:17 pm

    If it takes them that long to fix it, that's bad news! I wonder if they could rig a barricade in time to catch that doomed MiG-29, & if they r going to salvage it.

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    Post  Militarov on Thu Dec 01, 2016 9:35 pm

    Tsavo Lion wrote:If it takes them that long to fix it, that's bad news! I wonder if they could rig a barricade in time to catch that doomed MiG-29, & if they r going to salvage it.

    Well, seems something that requires spares or more serious maintenance broke, we do not know what still.

    They do not have barricades on Kuz from what i am aware.

    Salvage? Doubtful, not worth it. Maybe they place charge on it tho to destroy it.

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    Post  Giulio on Thu Dec 01, 2016 10:43 pm

    It is for emergency landings.

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    Post  Tsavo Lion on Fri Dec 02, 2016 12:01 am

    The Liaoning has a barricade & it was tested with J-15, but it's unbelievable that Adm. K, her sister ship, doesn't have 1!
    If the arresting gear is broken, it would be such a recovery even if the jet itself has no problems. I've read that it's possible that not all pilots had enough training prior to their 1st deployment with MiG-29K- NITKA in Crimea was still being rebuilt/upgraded & the 1 in Yeisk was completed only about a year ago. http://www.janes.com/article/34228/russian-naval-pilot-training-facility-nears-completion
    http://www.vz.ru/politics/2016/12/5/666349.print.html
    Perhaps the pilot didn't have the option to cut 1 engine off to save fuel & buy time to recover with 1 remaining, either due to lack of training or plane's/carrier operational limitations at the time?
    http://gordonua.com/publications/admiral-kuznecov-zachem-rossiya-ispolzuet-avianosec-v-sirii-162053.html


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    Re: Russian Naval Aviation: News

    Post  George1 on Sun Dec 04, 2016 1:52 am

    Development of UAV helicopter type for Naval Aviation of the Russian Navy

    http://bmpd.livejournal.com/2303856.html


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    Post  eehnie on Sun Dec 04, 2016 4:22 am

    George1 wrote:Development of UAV helicopter type for Naval Aviation of the Russian Navy

    http://bmpd.livejournal.com/2303856.html

    Between this and this:

    https://www.rt.com/news/342999-russian-transformer-drone-video/
    http://defence-blog.com/news/in-russia-are-developing-a-new-uav-frigate.html

    Russia is getting closer to what should be the future of the maritime patrol and reconnaissance. If they make the last shipborne, they almost have it.

    Both are far more interesting than the heavy land based subsonic aircrafts. If this philosphy goes forward (not necessary these models of uav) in some years, I'm not sure if the new proposed Be-200 and the Be-40/42 will have room to work in the old mold for maritime patrol.

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    Re: Russian Naval Aviation: News

    Post  medo on Fri Dec 09, 2016 8:50 pm



    Interesting video about carrier aircraft operations from today. At the first seconds we could see a cockpit of Su-33, where it seems to be a new MFD display similar to the one in the front cockpit of MiG-31BM or in Su-30KN.

    After all, maybe I'm not that far away from the truth and Su-33 could be actually modernized by Su-30KN program. This program also include modernization of the radar with increased capabilities and to make it multifunctional without replacing it whole, but just components inside, nut we do not know if RuNAVY went that deep with modernization, but would be helpful in Syria campaign.

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    Post  PapaDragon on Fri Dec 09, 2016 10:20 pm

    medo wrote:TbNFc83j6_k

    Interesting video about carrier aircraft operations from today. At the first seconds we could see a cockpit of Su-33, where it seems to be a new MFD display similar to the one in the front cockpit of MiG-31BM or in Su-30KN.

    After all, maybe I'm not that far away from the truth and Su-33 could be actually modernized by Su-30KN program. This program also include modernization of the radar with increased capabilities and to make it multifunctional without replacing it whole, but just components inside, nut we do not know if RuNAVY went that deep with modernization, but would be helpful in Syria campaign.


    So, are they flying again? It would mean that the cable SNAFU was patched for now.


    Also, I noticed the amount of space those AA missiles take up. During modernization they could easily stuff that area with same number of ASh and AA missiles via UKSK and Redut launchers and probably have room to spare.

    It would mean that those Granit launchers can be ripped out from the front without any loss of offensive firepower. And it would free up room and weight naturally.

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