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    KiloGolf

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    Re: Su-27: News

    Post  KiloGolf on Thu Jan 11, 2018 11:46 pm

    I'm leaving this video here, anywhere else it's going to be wasted.
    Kluczewo, Poland. 1992. 159th ‘Red Banner of Novorossiysk’ Guards Fighter Aviation Regiment.



    This is the picture that epitomizes awesome from back then:



    Those planes back then were the best (literally) in the whole world.
    I remember those days reading about them with fascination, the best warplane of the 90s imo.

    <nostalgic rant mode off>
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    Re: Su-27: News

    Post  AMCXXL on Fri Jan 12, 2018 10:13 pm

    Other Two Su-27SM3 modernized in 2017 have appeared:  Nº67 and Nº72
    with these two are 18 Su-27SM3 at Krymsk , 12 "new" (51, 52, 53, 54 , 55, 56, 57, 58 , 59 , 61, 62, 65) and 6 "modernized" (63, 64 , 67 , 68 , 69 , 72)

    https://russianplanes.net/images/to225000/224047.jpg

    https://russianplanes.net/images/to225000/224049.jpg


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    Re: Su-27: News

    Post  AMCXXL on Fri Jan 12, 2018 10:32 pm

    medo wrote:So, now  it becomes more clear. from initial order for 36 Su-27SM3 only 6 will be modernized.  This mean, that there is no need for 20 Su-30M2 trainers for Su-27SM jets. For two Su-27SM regiments they need 8 Su-30M2 (2x4) and the rest 12 Su-30M2 could form combat squadron for regiment in Krymsk, which could have two squadrons. One squadron of 12 new build Su-27SM3 for air defense duties and one squadron of new build Su-30M2 for strike duties. They could equip those Su-30M2 with Hibiny ECM pods and T220 targeting pod and get very potent strike platform against ground and naval targets to operate over Caucasus region and over eastern Black Sea.

    I'm not sure, why would RuAF sent some Su-27SM3 to Kaliningrad, when NAVY already equip their squadron with Su-30SM. I more see a job for those 6 or 8 extra Su-27SM3 in Hmeimim in Syria after war. Planes could be constantly there, only pilots and personal could rotate.

    RuAF still have some number of standard Su-27 and Su-27UB jets, which will slowlly be replaced by newer Su-35. I wonder, if they could overhaul some of them and upgrade with Gefest SVP-24 like they did with Su-33. Russia will sooner or later recognize Novorussia (DNR and LNR) and they will sooner or later create their air force and a squadron or two of upgraded Su-27 and maybe Su-24M2 would be good start for them.

    Su-30M2 are for "training" (teaching, "training" is a bad translation of "учение"). In peacetime all regiments "training" for war
    Su-30M2 are stationed mainly  in South district because in South district are the training centers and also because the squadrons are new.
    Temporally are used for "training" of new squadrons. In Vladivostok are also used for "training" asiatic pilots.
    In long term will be destined to training centrers. Kushchevskaya has one squadron of Su-27UB that need replacement of the half of the Su-30M2 , and the logical is all SU-30M2 will go to training centers to replace MiG-29 , because the line regiments have Su-30SM not MiG-29

    Krymsk has one squadron of Su-27SM3 suported by a couple of Su-27UB, and now is forming a second squadron with Su-27SM3 and Su-27P
    The Su-30M2 are attached there for training of new pilots, are not a "third combat squadron"

    In Kaliningrad will be restored the two old regiments:
    689 with Su-27P and probably the remainig Su-27SM, that in long term will be replaced all by Su-35S
    4 OMShAP with Su-30SM and Su-24M, that will be repalced by more Su-30SM
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    Re: Su-27: News

    Post  George1 on Sat Jan 13, 2018 8:47 am

    AMCXXL wrote:Other Two Su-27SM3 modernized in 2017 have appeared:  Nº67 and Nº72
    with these two are 18 Su-27SM3 at Krymsk , 12 "new" (51, 52, 53, 54 , 55, 56, 57, 58 , 69 , 61, 62, 65) and 6 "modernized" (63, 64 , 67 , 68 , 69 , 72)


    https://bmpd.livejournal.com/3046924.html
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    Re: Su-27: News

    Post  AMCXXL on Sat Jan 13, 2018 5:21 pm

    KiloGolf wrote:I'm leaving this video here, anywhere else it's going to be wasted.
    Kluczewo, Poland. 1992. 159th ‘Red Banner of Novorossiysk’ Guards Fighter Aviation Regiment.



    This is the picture that epitomizes awesome from back then:



    Those planes back then were the best (literally) in the whole world.
    I remember those days reading about them with fascination, the best warplane of the 90s imo.



    The video is from 159 IAP based in Kluczewo (1987-1992)
    The photo is from 582 IAP based in Choyna (1989-1992)

    Both regiments in Poland, as part of 4º A. VGK , forces in Eastern Europe , until the breakdown of USSR in 25 december 1991

    In 1992 both regiments were transferred back to Russia:
    159 IAP went to Petrozavodsk (Besovets), until today
    582 was disbanded and the planes transferred to 831 IAP at Smolensk until 1996 and later transferred to Far East (404 IAP until 2001 and later to 23 IAP)
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    Re: Su-27: News

    Post  Cyberspec on Fri Jan 19, 2018 10:12 pm

    George1 wrote:
    AMCXXL wrote:Other Two Su-27SM3 modernized in 2017 have appeared:  Nº67 and Nº72
    with these two are 18 Su-27SM3 at Krymsk , 12 "new" (51, 52, 53, 54 , 55, 56, 57, 58 , 69 , 61, 62, 65) and 6 "modernized" (63, 64 , 67 , 68 , 69 , 72)


    https://bmpd.livejournal.com/3046924.html

    Another pic of 67 (Jan 2018)

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    Re: Su-27: News

    Post  Isos on Tue Jan 30, 2018 11:14 pm

    Vrooouuummm !! Hello there Very Happy

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    Re: Su-27: News

    Post  Isos on Mon May 21, 2018 9:34 pm

    What happened to the aerobatic team's Su-27 replaced by Su-30 ? They have been used more often than normal su-27 so they are more likely to be retired but they are still combat ready.
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    Re: Su-27: News

    Post  GarryB on Tue May 22, 2018 9:59 am

    I would suspect they would have been heavily used for constant training and displays and probably got a lot more hours than operational birds.

    They would also likely have pulled more gs as well, though without ordinance or external loads...

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    Re: Su-27: News

    Post  hoom on Fri Jun 29, 2018 5:12 am

    Beautiful pic via reddit
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    Re: Su-27: News

    Post  Big_Gazza on Fri Jun 29, 2018 11:58 am

    Those aren't decoys... they are the burning fragments of the vapourised F-35 that's it's just scratched....

    The pilots flame retardant suit will allow him to be collected intact and suitable for presentation in an open coffin....

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    Re: Su-27: News

    Post  AMCXXL on Tue Jul 31, 2018 6:45 pm

    Isos wrote:What happened to the aerobatic team's Su-27 replaced by Su-30 ? They have been used more often than normal su-27 so they are more likely to be retired but they are still combat ready.

    The 8 Su-30SM only replaces the half of the acrobatic team "Russian Knights", that uses to have a dozen of Su-27P and at least four UB´s
    In theory the other half of the team should be replaced for Su-35 , but there are not news about that, the only news are about new MiG-35 for replace several MiG-29 next year.


    Since the 8 Su-30SM went to Kubinka in 2016, the Su-27P continue flying
    You can find easy photos of Su-27P flying in Kubinka since spring 2017 to summer 2018
    At least Nº 02 , 08 , 10 , 11, 17 and 27
    In fact also the Su-27UB Nº20 and Nº23 continue in use
    https://russianplanes.net/id226789
    Nº10 and UB Nº23 working this spring at Kubinka




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