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    Re: RS-26 Rubezh ICBM

    Post  George1 on Fri May 13, 2016 10:56 am

    Deployment of RS-26 Rubezh reportedly postponed until 2017
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    Re: RS-26 Rubezh ICBM

    Post  George1 on Thu Mar 01, 2018 3:50 pm

    Part video, part CGI of the new RS-26 Rubezh (project code: #Avangard) ICBM with hypersonic boost-glide warheads was presented during V.V. Putin's annual state-of-the-nation address today.

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    Re: RS-26 Rubezh ICBM

    Post  PapaDragon on Thu Mar 01, 2018 4:04 pm

    George1 wrote:Part video, part CGI of the new RS-26 Rubezh (project code: #Avangard) ICBM with hypersonic boost-glide warheads was presented during V.V. Putin's annual state-of-the-nation address today.
    ...........


    Already in production according to Imperator. Should work with both Sarmat and other ICBMs as well.

    http://tass.com/defense/992297
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    Re: RS-26 Rubezh ICBM

    Post  George1 on Thu Mar 01, 2018 4:39 pm

    So Rubezh is a "specialized" ICBM launching hyper-sonic glide warheads.

    MOSCOW, March 1. /TASS/. Russia’s military-industrial complex has launched serial production of a new glide vehicle called Avangard, President Vladimir Putin told the Federal Assembly on Thursday in his annual State of the Nation Address.
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    http://tass.com/defense/992297
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    Re: RS-26 Rubezh ICBM

    Post  PapaDragon on Thu Mar 01, 2018 9:30 pm


    Just to point out one detail: remember that Prompt Global Strike thingie Pentagon has been pushing for over past decade or so?

    Well, with speed of Mach 20 for Avangard (Rubezh) Russia just made one. thumbsup

    They could further simplify design by using single Avangard with one Topol/Yars solid rocket instead of 3 Avangards on one Sarmat (someone could crunch the numbers) Cheaper and more mobile that way.

    Also, replace payload with block of cement/iron/anything-heavy and you got yourself a kinetic impactor.

    Robert Heinlein would be proud (granted it was not USA that made it but since this weapon will still be defending capitalism even if Russian one, he should be proud in principle) Cool

    Also that Kinzhal anti-ship missile could also work as kinetic impactor if speed of Mach 10 is accurate.
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    Re: RS-26 Rubezh ICBM

    Post  GunshipDemocracy on Thu Mar 01, 2018 10:51 pm

    PapaDragon wrote:Well, with speed of Mach 20 for Avangard (Rubezh) Russia just made one. thumbsup


    There was no coincidence that Rubezh was tested on distance 2000km... imagine more warheads and lss range. Rocket is stationing on Urals.
    Thus Rubezh is going to take arole of MRBM. Without breaking INF. Vova was mentioning this: we have weapons that secure our safety without infringing any of treaties.



    PapaDragon wrote: Also that Kinzhal anti-ship missile could also work as kinetic impactor if speed of Mach 10 is accurate.

    TNT energy equivalent for the same mass is ~3 km/s to yep 10Ma or more no need for chemical explosives.
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    Re: RS-26 Rubezh ICBM

    Post  gaurav on Sun Mar 04, 2018 7:47 pm

    Testing teh Avanguard against LASER Cannons.
    Russians know that U.S missile defense interceptors are a joke. This U.S missile defense is not even a leaky umbrella ..infact it is just
    "nothing burger". Cool
    Now they tested the AVANgard against laser cannons because that is where these  ICBM will be tested .
    Russians are expecting that Americans will finally adopt laser based missile defense because their interceptors are just jokes.
    U.S missile interceptor scam, money laudering site .. he he he


    I also believe that Yars and AVangard are both into  mass production ..so much so that there would be 8-10 regiments on combat duty
    right now.

    Avangard

    sputniknews wrote: Sergei Karakayev, Commander of Russia's Strategic Missile Forces, provided more information on the Avangard,
    including its long-range, non-ballistic trajectory and maneuverability characteristics. The composite materials used in the glider allow
    its body to withstand heat up to several thousand degrees Celsius, and offer protection against laser irradiation.
    Karakayev was able to confirm that the testing of the weapon had successfully wrapped up.

    The source also confirmed that Kinzhal, the ultra-maneuverable air-launched missile flying at speeds above Mach 10,
    has also been deployed by the Russian military.

    that the Avangard has entered production, and recalled that the strategic system is capable of intercontinental flights
    through the dense atmosphere at speeds up to Mach 20, making it invulnerable to any existing or prospective anti-aircraft
    or missile defense systems.

    We also see that these kind of news separates the real and fake news. For i.e here one can see that the general is really explaining
    the features of the missile without exposing the secrets . The general cannot expose all the secrets he will just "extrapolate" whatever Putin
    told in the assembly.This is real news, otherwise all media will just start blurting out all kinds of features ,fake /real who knows of
    Avngard/kinzhal ..with no one taking responsibilty whether those features are real or not.


    Avangard was tested in 2013 circa after that all tests were stopped to hide the true specification of the missile. Hence this missile would
    be in production since 2015 leading to several regiments being deployed in 2017/18.
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    Re: RS-26 Rubezh ICBM

    Post  gaurav on Mon Mar 12, 2018 1:24 am

    http://militarynews.ru/story.asp?rid=1&nid=475820

    Russia's Defense Ministry has concluded a contract for the mass production of the hypersonic complex Avangard - Deputy Minister
    03/12/2018 2:26:13 AM
          Moscow. 12 March. INTERFAX - A contract for mass production of the Avangard hypersonic complex has been concluded,
    Russian Deputy Defense Minister Yury Borisov said.
          "The Vanguard system, which the president spoke of, is well tested, practical tests of this system have confirmed
    the feasibility of the chosen approach.I will say more, we have a contract for the mass production of these systems.
    So this is not a bluff, but real things, . Borisov in an interview with the newspaper "Red Star".
          He noted that when creating the "Vanguard" Russian scientists had to overcome a number of difficulties associated with the fact that the temperature on the surface of the combat unit reaches 2 thousand degrees.
          "It really flies in the plasma, so the problem of managing this object and the issues of protection were very acute, but solutions were found," Borisov said.
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    Re: RS-26 Rubezh ICBM

    Post  GunshipDemocracy on Mon Mar 12, 2018 9:18 am

    gaurav wrote: "It really flies in the plasma, so the problem of managing this object and the issues of protection were very acute, but solutions were found," Borisov said.

    For mean interesting question is: Can Rubezh/Avangard fulfill also IRBM function? otherwise why test it on 2000km distance...
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    Re: RS-26 Rubezh ICBM

    Post  GarryB on Tue Mar 13, 2018 6:18 am

    For mean interesting question is: Can Rubezh/Avangard fulfill also IRBM function? otherwise why test it on 2000km distance...

    All ICBMs can be used at shorter ranges... or did you think all of china and europe were safe because Russia has ICBMs and no IRBMs...

    An artillery piece can hit targets up close simply by not going up in the air so high, or simply by not using a full power charge... with a three stage rocket motor that could be as simple as not using one stage and letting the missile fall earlier over a much shorter range.... with old liquid fuels that means shutting down an engine earlier.... with a solid fuel rocket that could be as simple as jettisoning it before it is fully burned out...
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    Re: RS-26 Rubezh ICBM

    Post  GunshipDemocracy on Mon Mar 19, 2018 2:27 pm

    GarryB wrote:
    All ICBMs can be used at shorter ranges... or did you think all of china and europe were safe because Russia has ICBMs and no IRBMs...

    An artillery piece can hit targets up close simply by not going up in the air so high, or simply by not using a full power charge... with a three stage rocket motor that could be as simple as not using one stage and letting the missile fall earlier over a much shorter range.... with old liquid fuels that means shutting down an engine earlier.... with a solid fuel rocket that could be as simple as jettisoning it before it is fully burned out...

    True, but I should have rephrased it to: is RS-26 meant to be used as IRBM?

    IMHO yes. RS-26 was tested on 2000km distance and IMHO this was no accident. Let's add that range of Kindzhal is 2000+ so we got here full coverage without violation of any treaty Smile

    I am not sure about costs but AFAIK RS-26 is lighter - its launcher has 12x12 chassis instead of 80t Yars with 16x16. It would define its weight in ~40+ tons class. IRBMs from 8os were 37-40 tons. When you add avangard with liquid fuel stage then you got maneuvering hybride of IRBM/ICBM.

    clever approach isnt it?
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    Re: RS-26 Rubezh ICBM

    Post  George1 on Thu Mar 22, 2018 11:21 am

    "Avangard" complex replaced "Rubezh" in the state armament program until 2027

    All work on the" Rubezh "and" Barguzin" frozen until the end of 2027

    http://tass.ru/armiya-i-opk/5055517
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    Re: RS-26 Rubezh ICBM

    Post  GunshipDemocracy on Fri Mar 30, 2018 1:17 am

    George1 wrote:"Avangard" complex replaced "Rubezh" in the state armament program until 2027

    All work on the" Rubezh "and" Barguzin" frozen until the end of 2027

    This saves lots of money and releases resources to economy. As long as Kindzhal, Sarmat/Avangard and Poseidon are in place no hurry for Rubezh.
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    Re: RS-26 Rubezh ICBM

    Post  Hole on Fri Mar 30, 2018 12:11 pm

    There is also another factor. The Kinzahl is part one of the GZUR (hypersonic guided missile) project. They wanted a missile with a range of 1500 km and a Speed of M6. The result is much better. Part two should become a "strategic" Missile with a Speed of M12 and an undisclosed range. Let´s suppose they develop a missile with a range of 6000 km, than there would be no more need for the Rubezh. They could make an land-based starter and Keep the INF treaty intact.
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    Re: RS-26 Rubezh ICBM

    Post  George1 on Mon Apr 02, 2018 11:35 pm

    By cancelling RS-26 Russia keeps its options open

    A couple of weeks ago we got a word about the future of the RS-26 missile. According to the Russian media, the RS-26 program did not make it to the 2018-2027 State Armament Program as the priority was given to the Avangard project (which is known here as Project 4202). It may reappear again, of course, but probably not right away.

    To recap, the missile was first tested in September 2011 (unsuccessfully) and in May 2012. A March 2015 report said that the missile was fully tested and ready for deployment. Being a "short" RS-24 Yars, RS-26 was by all indications an intermediate-range missile, which generated some controversy. I have it on good authority that Russia did declare RS-26 as a prototype of a new ICBM in New START, so it would have been covered by its provisions had it been deployed. Right now, though, it will remain in a limbo - as a prototype it doesn't really have a range. If we will get to the point of a clear collapse of the INF Treaty Russia could declare RS-26 as an intermediate-range missile that is not constrained by New START (or its successor).

    http://russianforces.org/blog/2018/04/by_cancelling_rs-26_russia_kee.shtml


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