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    Re: New Russian heavy ICBM - Sarmatian

    Post  George1 on Sat Mar 03, 2018 1:06 am

    Key facts about Russia’s advanced Sarmat ICBM system

    The missile complex was named after the nomadic Sarmatian tribes who lived in the 6th-4th centuries BC on the territory of present-day Russia, Ukraine and Kazakhstan


    MOSCOW, March 1. /TASS/. In his State of the Nation Address to the Federal Assembly on March 1, 2018, Russian President Vladimir Putin said that Russia’s Defense Ministry had launched an active phase jointly with enterprises of the rocket and space industry to test a new missile system with the Sarmat heavy intercontinental ballistic missile (ICBM).

    The RS-28 Sarmat is the Russian promising silo-based missile complex with the heavy liquid-propellant ICBM capable of carrying nuclear charges. Russia has been developing the Sarmat since the 2000s to replace the R-36M2 Voyevoda ICBM operational in the country’s Strategic Missile Force since 1988.

    The missile complex was named after the nomadic Sarmatian tribes who lived in the 6th-4th centuries BC on the territory of present-day Russia, Ukraine and Kazakhstan.
    Project’s history

    The state contract for the Sarmat R&D work was concluded on July 21, 2011. On the day of the 54th anniversary of the Strategic Missile Force on December 17, 2013, Strategic Missile Force Commander Colonel-General Sergei Karakayev officially announced for the first time about the system’s creation.

    On May 31, 2014, Deputy Defense Minister Yuri Borisov told reporters that the heavy missile was "a unique weapon," which the United States lacked. He specified that "by its lifting capacity, it is capable of carrying such means of breaching anti-missile defense and using such a powerful propellant that it will be able to fly through the North and South Poles." According to the deputy defense minister, the missile will be furnished with "maneuvering warheads." Later, on February 21, 2015, he said that the missile would be developed in several modifications while the weight of the deliverable warhead would make up 10 tonnes.

    The Sarmat ICBM prototype was ready in the autumn of 2015 while the timeframe of pop-up tests at the Plesetsk spaceport (the northern Arkhangelsk Region) was numerously rescheduled due to the unpreparedness of the silo-based launcher. On December 27, 2017, the daily Moskovsky Komsomolets reported about the first successful pop-up test of the missile prototype.

    The Krasnoyarsk Machine-Building Plant (part of the Makeyev State Rocket Center) is the principal enterprise for the production of Sarmat ICBM prototypes.

    In 2013, Strategic Missile Force Commander Colonel-General Sergei Karakayev said that the new missile complex was due to arrive for the Strategic Missile Force in 2018-2020. In May 2016, a TASS source in the defense sector said that the Sarmat would be accepted for service in late 2018.

    Before the Sarmat is accepted for service, Russian defense manufacturers are taking measures to extend the service life of the R-36M2 Voyevoda missile (according to the data of open sources, Russia’s Strategic Missile Force operates 46 such ICBMs).

    In his State of the Nation Address to the Federal Assembly on March 1, 2018, President Putin said that with its weight of 200 tonnes, the Sarmat ICBM has a short active flight path, which complicates its intercept by ABM systems. According to Putin, the new missile’s range, the number and the yield of its warheads are greater than those of the Voyevoda ICBM. The Russian president said that the Sarmat would be furnished with a wide range of large-yield nuclear warheads (including hypersonic capabilities) and the most advanced systems of breaching ABM defenses.


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    Re: New Russian heavy ICBM - Sarmatian

    Post  gaurav on Thu Mar 15, 2018 1:29 pm

    Here a video of Sarmat launch preparation

    sarmat launch preparation
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    Re: New Russian heavy ICBM - Sarmatian

    Post  PapaDragon on Tue Mar 20, 2018 10:29 pm


    According to wikipedia NATO reporting name for Sarmat ICBM is ''SNOWFLAKE'' but claim is not sourced so take it with plenty of salt...
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    Re: New Russian heavy ICBM - Sarmatian

    Post  Big_Gazza on Tue Mar 20, 2018 11:56 pm

    PapaDragon wrote:
    According to wikipedia NATO reporting name for Sarmat ICBM is ''SNOWFLAKE'' but claim is not sourced so take it with plenty of salt...

    Snowflake? LOL... talk about projecting ones own weaknesses onto others....
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    Re: New Russian heavy ICBM - Sarmatian

    Post  GunshipDemocracy on Wed Mar 21, 2018 12:13 am

    Big_Gazza wrote:
    PapaDragon wrote:
    According to wikipedia NATO reporting name for Sarmat ICBM is ''SNOWFLAKE'' but claim is not sourced so take it with plenty of salt...

    Snowflake?  LOL... talk about projecting ones own weaknesses onto others....

    it was about nuclear winter on place previously known as Hexagon Smile
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    Re: New Russian heavy ICBM - Sarmatian

    Post  AlfaT8 on Wed Mar 21, 2018 12:23 am

    PapaDragon wrote:
    According to wikipedia NATO reporting name for Sarmat ICBM is ''SNOWFLAKE'' but claim is not sourced so take it with plenty of salt...

    WTF!??.... "SnowFlake"?
    They should have gone with Pepe, Kek or the obvious Meteor or Thor/Odin.
    You don't go from Satan to Snowflake, the F.
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    Re: New Russian heavy ICBM - Sarmatian

    Post  GarryB on Wed Mar 21, 2018 9:29 pm

    It is the NATO reporting name... it doesn't mean shit.
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    Re: New Russian heavy ICBM - Sarmatian

    Post  GunshipDemocracy on Thu Mar 22, 2018 1:59 am

    Bondarev said how many interceptors are needed to intercept "Sarmat"

    MOSCOW, March 21 (Itar-Tass) - RIA Novosti. To intercept the Sarmat ICBM, at least 500 US anti-missiles are needed, RIA Novosti chairman of the Federation Council Committee on Defense and Security Viktor Bondarev said.

    At the Pentagon, the US was declared powerless over Russia's hypersonic weapons
    "This is the conclusion of Western experts." Dagger "along with its carrier is also immune to enemy weapons, while it is guaranteed to hit any given targets," he said.

    Earlier, the New York Times quoted an anonymous high-ranking official as saying that Trump, in a telephone conversation, had informed Russian President Vladimir Putin of his concern about Russian weapons developments that could exceed US remedies.

    Putin in his message to the Federal Assembly on March 1 spoke about the new types of strategic weapons that came to Russia's disposal. Thus, the strategic nuclear forces included 80 new intercontinental ballistic missiles, 102 ballistic missile submarines and three strategic missile submarines "Borey". In the message, Putin also demonstrated the tests of the missile complex with a planning wing unit, showed the Russian missile with a nuclear power installation and the Sarmat complex.

    РИА Новости https://ria.ru/defense_safety/20180321/1516954239.html
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    Re: New Russian heavy ICBM - Sarmatian

    Post  George1 on Thu Mar 29, 2018 2:24 pm

    MOSCOW, March 29. /TASS/. Russia’s newest silo-based inter-continental ballistic missile Sarmat (RS-28) is expected to go operational in the Uzhur-based strategic missile force division in 2021, a source in the defense-industrial complex told TASS.

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    Re: New Russian heavy ICBM - Sarmatian

    Post  George1 on Fri Mar 30, 2018 1:06 pm

    Second ejection test of Sarmat (with the MoD video and a note on the history of the test silo)



    http://russianforces.org/blog/2018/03/second_ejection_test_of_sarmat.shtml

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    Re: New Russian heavy ICBM - Sarmatian

    Post  mnztr on Sat Mar 31, 2018 5:00 pm

    KomissarBojanchev wrote:
    miketheterrible wrote:I will tell you the monetary gain by these:

    1) Your nation is secured from being invaded and destroyed.  Having heavy ICBM's will guarantee that it can bypass any current and future ABM system while Yars and Bulava may bypass at some point or another and others may get knocked out.
    2) The production of new materials creates plenty of jobs - more jobs, more money circulating the economy, more people buying goods.  Don't build stuff, company goes out of business, scientists leave, various facilities working on the project by supplying parts that many of parts can be used in other goods (the materials, guidance systems, etc) have left the country or found other kind of employment, and less money circulating the economy.
    3) Why ask these questions all the time?
    4) People know that you cannot be messed with so they will continue to work with you, as per evident of the sanctions.  So all in all, they cant bully you around like they are doing with Iran and North Korea.
    5) other shit.

    I can't believe we are even discussing this.
    1.North Korea doesn't have Sarmat, yet noone will invade it
    2. Nobody except the Russian government will buy the ICBMs, therefore, no profit. I wish there weren't treaties so that Russia could sell ICBMs to enemies of the western empire.
    3. It pisses me off when the Russian navy and Air force(PAK FA numbers, PAK DA, A-50, targeting pods, GLONASS, etc) and other vital industries(gas turbines) are underfunded to develop ICBMs.
    4. The EU doesn't want to cooperate  with Russia over Ukraine and the US dared kill SAA soldiers. So Russia will continue to be bullied with sarmat or not. Or do you think westerners will stop making color revolutions and lift sanctions magically when sarmat comes into service?
    5. Like what? The only thing I can think of is space exploration technology, but russia by now has independently developed them from their ICBM programs.

    Russia does not need to export to create economic activity. ICBMs are heavily related to sattelite launch technology which needs to be recapitalized. Right now its very hard to compete with Space X on launch cost because they got a TON of NASA IP for free. Same will have to be done by Russia if they want to be in this lucrative game. Having these weapons is an absolute guarantee. If Russia wanted to, it could provide this missile to N Korea, Iran, Syria etc etc. It would totally shake up the world order. The USA knows this. Look what happened when they tried to arm Cuba with nukes. The ecosystem needs to be kept viable. Better rocket fuels help the entire russian industry and help weapons and civil rocketry. In any case, as a citizen of a western country I am actually glad that Russia has developed a missile to restore the MAD balance and invalidate ABM as the US has lunatics like John Bolton that think of starting wars with Iran and N. Korea that would be incredibly dangerous and costly.
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    Re: New Russian heavy ICBM - Sarmatian

    Post  Hole on Sat Mar 31, 2018 5:21 pm

    Why should Russia subsidize a "private" Company with billions of bucks? They want to earn Money with space launches, not enrich an Oligarch like Musk.

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    Re: New Russian heavy ICBM - Sarmatian

    Post  mnztr on Sat Mar 31, 2018 5:34 pm

    Hole wrote:Why should Russia subsidize a "private" Company with billions of bucks? They want to earn Money with space launches, not enrich an Oligarch like Musk.

    No one said they should, but they need to recapitalize their launch capabilities as right now they simply cannot compete on price with SpaceX. While SpaceX got a lot of NASA IP for free, its approach is radically different then NASA and I think we can see that. Russia need to develop some new tech if it is to thrive in this market.
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    Re: New Russian heavy ICBM - Sarmatian

    Post  Hole on Sat Mar 31, 2018 7:10 pm

    SpaceX is cheaper because everything they have is paid for by the state. Launch pad. Rocket. Buildings. Technicians. The invented nothing. Now Musk is burning Money from "Investors", another word for morons who believed anything their bank or Investment Company tells them.

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    Post  mnztr on Sat Mar 31, 2018 7:28 pm

    Hole wrote:SpaceX is cheaper because everything they have is paid for by the state. Launch pad. Rocket. Buildings. Technicians. The invented nothing. Now Musk is burning Money from "Investors", another word for morons who believed anything their bank or Investment Company tells them.

    That is partially true, but they have also invested a huge amount in R&D, but EVERY space program including China EU and Russia is state sponsored so by your theory they should also be cheaper then Space X so why are they not. Space X pays to use US Govt launch pads and they are building their own pad as well. As far as I can see Space X has used modularization and reuse to lower cost.
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    Re: New Russian heavy ICBM - Sarmatian

    Post  miketheterrible on Sat Mar 31, 2018 8:33 pm

    SpaceX cousin company Tesla is bankrupt too, according to investors.
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    Re: New Russian heavy ICBM - Sarmatian

    Post  GarryB on Sun Apr 01, 2018 1:50 am

    Subsidies don't last... when it ends... so ends Space-X.

    It is like the loose accountancy practises in the west... include illegal activities in the black market to make your GDP look better on paper is a good example...

    Not something to emulate let alone approve of.
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    Re: New Russian heavy ICBM - Sarmatian

    Post  kvs on Sun Apr 01, 2018 2:55 am

    I have yet to see any evidence that Musk's SpaceX is offering flight services cheaper than Russia. Maybe cheaper than
    NASA (recall the $300 million per shot Shuttle launch cost) but not Russia.
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    Re: New Russian heavy ICBM - Sarmatian

    Post  Hole on Sun Apr 01, 2018 12:19 pm

    They are cheaper (than NASA) because they don´t act like a normal company. They don´t have to earn money. SpaceX is like the shale gas industry in Amiland. A lot of money is pumped trough and in the end only the Oligarch at the top is becoming richer.
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    Re: New Russian heavy ICBM - Sarmatian

    Post  KomissarBojanchev on Sun May 13, 2018 8:50 pm

    Has anyone noticed that the whole animation in Putin's presentation of the Sarmat where we see animated warheads falling on florida are actually really old and existed before 2011? I swear that I saw this animation in a youtube video in late 2011, and it looked like an excerpt from a low budget Russian military TV show.

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    Re: New Russian heavy ICBM - Sarmatian

    Post  Big_Gazza on Mon May 14, 2018 2:09 am

    KomissarBojanchev wrote:Has anyone noticed that the whole animation in Putin's presentation of the Sarmat where we see animated warheads falling on florida are actually really old and existed before 2011? I swear that I saw this animation in a youtube video in late 2011, and it looked like an excerpt from a low budget Russian military TV show.

    Oddly, the Russians would rather have real weapons systems that work as advertised rather than rubbish promoted by 1st class Hollywood-style marketing productions.....
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    Re: New Russian heavy ICBM - Sarmatian

    Post  PapaDragon on Mon May 14, 2018 2:16 am

    Big_Gazza wrote:
    KomissarBojanchev wrote:Has anyone noticed that the whole animation in Putin's presentation of the Sarmat where we see animated warheads falling on florida are actually really old and existed before 2011? I swear that I saw this animation in a youtube video in late 2011, and it looked like an excerpt from a low budget Russian military TV show.

    Oddly, the Russians would rather have real weapons systems that work as advertised rather than rubbish promoted by 1st class Hollywood-style marketing productions.....

    He would probably want blueprints for the damn thing emailed to him personally by Shoigu...
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    Re: New Russian heavy ICBM - Sarmatian

    Post  KomissarBojanchev on Mon May 14, 2018 4:20 am

    PapaDragon wrote:
    Big_Gazza wrote:
    KomissarBojanchev wrote:Has anyone noticed that the whole animation in Putin's presentation of the Sarmat where we see animated warheads falling on florida are actually really old and existed before 2011? I swear that I saw this animation in a youtube video in late 2011, and it looked like an excerpt from a low budget Russian military TV show.

    Oddly, the Russians would rather have real weapons systems that work as advertised rather than rubbish promoted by 1st class Hollywood-style marketing productions.....  

    He would probably want blueprints for the damn thing emailed to him personally by Shoigu...

    Just a little observation because there a lot of theories that Putin, from his office in mordor, specifically ordered starving Russian children to make this animation in order to "intimidate" the americans.
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    Re: New Russian heavy ICBM - Sarmatian

    Post  KomissarBojanchev on Mon May 14, 2018 4:22 am

    Big_Gazza wrote:
    KomissarBojanchev wrote:Has anyone noticed that the whole animation in Putin's presentation of the Sarmat where we see animated warheads falling on florida are actually really old and existed before 2011? I swear that I saw this animation in a youtube video in late 2011, and it looked like an excerpt from a low budget Russian military TV show.

    Oddly, the Russians would rather have real weapons systems that work as advertised rather than rubbish promoted by 1st class Hollywood-style marketing productions.....  

    To be honest a vague infographic would've conveyed the purpose of the ICBM more effectively than using 5s cartoon with quality from the early 90s.
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    Re: New Russian heavy ICBM - Sarmatian

    Post  GunshipDemocracy on Mon May 14, 2018 10:44 am

    KomissarBojanchev wrote:
    To be honest a vague infographic would've conveyed the purpose of the ICBM more effectively than using 5s cartoon with  quality from the early 90s.

    +100

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