who need to be contained. India and China need to settle their border dispute. Pakistan needs to stop acting like Georgia under
Saakashivilli (aka the Tie Eater) and resolve the Kashmir issue together with India.
"The world is on the verge of radical change. We see how the European Union is gradually collapsing, as is the US economy -- it is all over for the new world order. So, it will never again be as it was before, in 10 years we will have a new world order in which the key will be the union of China and Russia. "
"We are now seeing the aggressive actions on the part of the United States, regarding both Russia and China. I believe that Russia and China could create an alliance toward which NATO will be powerless and which will put an end to the imperialist desires of the West."
To have China, India and Pakistan united in a same alliance would be a huge achievement for Russian diplomacy. They are trying this for almost 20 years, since the late 1990's.George1 wrote:Russia confident India, Pakistan to join SCO after June summit — diplomat
Svyatoslavich wrote:To have China, India and Pakistan united in a same alliance would be a huge achievement for Russian diplomacy. They are trying this for almost 20 years, since the late 1990's.George1 wrote:Russia confident India, Pakistan to join SCO after June summit — diplomat
ATLASCUB wrote:Can't never ever trust the Chinese. #1 reason Iran is not in yet is China. China doesn't wanna anger its partners in the West (U.S 660b trade) and M.E (Saudi's and Israeli's). Not much news about China vs. USA anymore.... Pivot to Asia - dead - in essence - pretty much in the backburner for now - low heat....
In that respect it's perfectly fine for Beijing letting Russia and Iran take the brunt of the hit from the West (U.S immediate priorities) and it also avoids Russia from having a stronger pull inside the S.C.O with Iran in.
SCO Missile shield is a pipedream (as with many other pipedreams - Eurasian NATO) as long as China behaves the way it does.
This thing is bound to be a paper tiger until Russia is strong enough to have its previous sphere of influence resurrected (if it wants to survive Washington's long term plan - the partition of the Russian Federation). The power-sharing between two big powers is never ever going to work. In that, the Americans are right. Both Russia and China will deal with the differences as it's beneficial for now until it comes such a time when there is no longer sufficient benefit vs. rivalship. That is, for Russia: ascendance once again as a big power, restoring its political clout and power throughout Central Asia, as well as building strong economic ties and hooking China like a drug user on "neo-Soviet energy". For China, to calm conflict in the region which benefits everyone, but specially them when it comes to expanding economic ties as well as ensuring access to energy corridors. Defence cooperation will be minimal - that is, intelligenge sharing, work on crime/drug and terrorism, deconfliction of some disputes but that's about it. Strategic defense however... as in a NATO/Warsaw Pact organization.... not there yet, not going there. Russia might want it, given its current luck but China certainly doesn't.
Pay attention to Russia asking for Iran to get in....keep watch next year and see if it happens. Already denied this year.
The-thing-next-door wrote:What are the chances of the EAU setting up an alience for military cooperation?
If this were to happen I could see many benefits, espetailly for Russia and China as Russian companies would enjoy large scale funding and may even end up designing even more advanced weapons then they already do while China would be able to easily recieve super advanced weapons for its military.
This would also alow Russia and China to protect and expand thier shperes of infuence as well as protect all of thier allies against western agression.
nomadski wrote:The Russians can buy Iranian oil . And sell it to Europe or Asia countries . A pipeline going north perhaps . Or shallow draft oil tanker from Iran , going through Caspian to port in Dagestan . Russia investing a little less in oil extraction itself . Saving reserves . But spend money in exporting fresh water to Iran in exchange . So Iran can slowly scale back oil export dependence . To buy and import agricultural goods . And fresh meat . Instead putting unemployed people to work on farms . Growing food . And developing a more resistant economy . No single Russian company involved . That trades with yank or Europe . So immune from sanctions . Instead a state owned joint venture with Iran . Kill three birds with one stone .