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    Post  Svyatoslavich on Fri Jul 17, 2015 12:36 am

    coolieno99 wrote:India and Pakistan will become full-fledged members of SCO at the Tashkent Summit in 2016

    http://news.yahoo.com/india-pakistan-join-security-group-led-russia-china-110322857.html

    http://thebricspost.com/chinas-silk-road-wins-big-at-sco-summit/#.VacyhVLooUG
    Great news. Russian diplomacy has the great merit of bringing Pakistan and China closer to India. These countries went to war more than once, but nowadays it is very unlikely there will be another one.
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    Post  kvs on Fri Jul 17, 2015 3:50 am

    Hopefully these countries are realizing that NATO is not their friend and never was. It's a pack of ex-colonialists and neo-colonialists
    who need to be contained. India and China need to settle their border dispute. Pakistan needs to stop acting like Georgia under
    Saakashivilli (aka the Tie Eater) and resolve the Kashmir issue together with India.
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    Post  George1 on Tue Sep 15, 2015 1:58 am

    Iran will be able to join SCO after UN SC sanctions are lifted — Russian diplomat

    According to Russian president’s SCO envoy, Iran has been enjoying an observer status with the SCO for almost ten years and has proved its commitments and capability of being a good and active member

    BRUSSELS, September 14. /TASS/. Iran will be able to kick off the process of joining the Shanghai Cooperation Organization (SCO) shortly after the United Nations Security Council sanctions are lifted, Russian president’s SCO envoy Bakhtiyer Khakimov said on Monday.

    "Iran is a number one candidate in the region. The process of comprehensive settlement of the nuclear problem makes it possible for that country to become a member of the organization in the foreseeable perspective," he said after a regular meeting of senior officials from the Asia-Europe Meeting (ASEM) countries.

    "We spoke much about that [Iran’s accession to the SCO] with our partners. In general, they share the opinion that Iran, which has been enjoying an observer status with the SCO for almost ten years since 2006, has proved its commitments and capability of being a good and active member of the Shanghai Cooperation Organization," Khakimov underscored.

    "However there is a formal criterion, that is, a state [seeking SCO membership] must not be under U.N. sanctions," he noted. "We have understanding that the signal that has already been sent [after reaching a comprehensive agreement on the Iranian nuclear dossier - TASS] gives a possibility to think about practical consideration of Iran’s application for SCO membership after the U.N. Security Council sanctions are lifted."

    "We will insist on settling this issue, since Iran is a key player in the region and has proved its commitment to joining the SCO," the Russian diplomat added.


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    Post  George1 on Thu Sep 24, 2015 12:46 pm

    Cambodia becomes dialogue partner in SCO


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    Post  George1 on Thu Oct 29, 2015 11:51 am

    SCO Develops Road Map for India, Pakistan Joining Organization

    According to Shanghai Cooperation Organization Regional Anti-Terrorist Structure, a road map for the accession of India and Pakistan to the (SCO) has been worked out and submitted for the current member-states consideration.

    The SCO is a political, economic and military alliance composed of six member states, including Russia, China, Kazakhstan, Kyrgyzstan, Tajikistan and Uzbekistan. The decision to commence the process of inclusion of India and Pakistan as member states in the organization was made during the July SCO summit in the Russian city of Ufa.

    "The road map on granting full membership in the SCO to India and Pakistan has been developed in accordance with the decisions of the Council of Heads of SCO Member-States made on July 10, 2015 in Ufa," the press service of RATS said.

    The plan was discussed at the meeting of the SCO’s national coordinators in Beijing last week, it added.

    It is expected that the mechanism for the road map’s implementation will be discussed at the meeting of the SCO Council of Heads of Government in December in China, the press service told RIA Novosti.

    At the moment, India and Pakistan, as well as Mongolia, Iran and Afghanistan hold observer status within SCO, while Belarus, Turkey and Sri Lanka are SCO dialogue partners.

    Read more: http://sputniknews.com/world/20151029/1029264724/SCO-India-Pakistan.html#ixzz3px8DEeDy


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    Post  George1 on Tue Dec 29, 2015 8:38 am

    SCO to consider Iran's membership request right after UN lifts sanctions

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    Post  George1 on Tue Mar 22, 2016 8:41 am

    Nepal receives SCO dialogue partner status

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    Post  magnumcromagnon on Tue Jul 26, 2016 3:26 am

    Experts believe that Russia and China will be the basis of the SCO anti-missile defense
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    Post  Zivo on Sun Aug 07, 2016 5:29 am

    China openly offers Russia an alliance against NATO

    "in ten years, the key to the new world order will be the tandem of Russia and China" -- Chairman Xi Jinping

    "The world is on the verge of radical change. We see how the European Union is gradually collapsing, as is the US economy -- it is all over for the new world order. So, it will never again be as it was before, in 10 years we will have a new world order in which the key will be the union of China and Russia. "

    ...

    "We are now seeing the aggressive actions on the part of the United States, regarding both Russia and China. I believe that Russia and China could create an alliance toward which NATO will be powerless and which will put an end to the imperialist desires of the West."

    http://www.fort-russ.com/2016/08/china-openly-offers-russia-alliance.html
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    Post  eehnie on Mon Sep 05, 2016 2:21 am

    In fact the SCO has been and will be this alliance.

    Taking it into account, I think the regional distribution of the countries can change to be more adapted to the current real alliances of Russia.

    I would expect an important place for the SCO and the countries around in a pro-Russian forum like this.
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    Post  George1 on Wed Apr 19, 2017 8:12 am

    Afghanistan unlikely to become SCO member soon due to domestic situation — diplomat

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    http://tass.com/world/941980


    Russia confident India, Pakistan to join SCO after June summit — diplomat

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    http://tass.com/world/941977


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    Post  Svyatoslavich on Thu Apr 20, 2017 1:01 am

    George1 wrote:Russia confident India, Pakistan to join SCO after June summit — diplomat

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    To have China, India and Pakistan united in a same alliance would be a huge achievement for Russian diplomacy. They are trying this for almost 20 years, since the late 1990's.

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    Post  ATLASCUB on Thu Apr 20, 2017 6:03 am

    Svyatoslavich wrote:
    George1 wrote:Russia confident India, Pakistan to join SCO after June summit — diplomat

    More:
    http://tass.com/world/941977
    To have China, India and Pakistan united in a same alliance would be a huge achievement for Russian diplomacy. They are trying this for almost 20 years, since the late 1990's.

    I think it's dangerous. A good alliance is one that shows that members don't come and ago. When there are two countries with such rivalry involved they're bound to clash at some point - and leaving the union is a no-no. You never stop to think why NATO works its ass off to keep everyone in once they get in? They don't want states coming and going - thus making the alliance weak and victim of electoral moods. There should be strong considerations for every state and all angles extensively analyzed to avoid future failures.
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    Post  GarryB on Thu Apr 20, 2017 9:45 am

    I think it is a great idea for these countries to join the alliance and I think in joining they will start to create ties between them that can include dialog channels that hopefully can be used to solve problems and create trust between them.

    Of course the west wont want them to join... the west loves to put divisions between its enemies to keep them divided and weak and easier to take on one at a time.

    Together they are stronger... if they can work together and deal with their differences they can get better and move forward and become more useful and stronger members of the international community.


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    Post  coolieno99 on Tue Apr 25, 2017 11:15 pm

    SCO meeting in Astana, April 21, 2017, discussing various issues in preparation for the Summit in June.

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    Post  George1 on Sun Jun 18, 2017 2:49 pm

    India and Pakistan join SCO

    Leaders of the Shanghai Cooperation Organization have signed the Astana Declaration and confirmed membership of India and Pakistan in the organization

    ASTANA, June 9. /TASS/. Leaders of the Shanghai Cooperation Organization have signed the Astana Declaration, the Convention on Combating Extremism and a statement on fight against terrorism, and also confirmed membership of India and Pakistan in the group.

    The leaders also approved decisions on the contributions of India and Pakistan due to their new status in the organization. The sides adopted reports of the SCO Secretary-General and a regional anti-terror body of the group on the activity in 2016.

    During the meeting, a plan on joint steps on implementing the program for cooperation between the SCO countries in tourism in 2017-2018 and a memorandum on mutual understanding between the SCO Secretariat and the International Committee of the Red Cross (ICRC) was signed.

    The accession process of India and Pakistan was launched at the SCO summit in Russia’s Ufa in 2015.

    The Declaration on the Establishment of the Shanghai Cooperation Organization was singed in China’s Shanghai in June 2001 by six founding states - Russia, China, Kazakhstan, Kyrgyzstan, Tajikistan and Uzbekistan. Afghanistan, Belarus, Iran and Mongolia currently enjoy observer status while Sri Lanka, Turkey, Azerbaijan, Armenia, Cambodia and Nepal are dialogue partners.


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    Post  ATLASCUB on Tue Jun 27, 2017 8:26 am

    Can't never ever trust the Chinese. #1 reason Iran is not in yet is China. China doesn't wanna anger its partners in the West (U.S 660b trade) and M.E (Saudi's and Israeli's). Not much news about China vs. USA anymore.... Pivot to Asia - dead - in essence - pretty much in the backburner for now - low heat....

    In that respect it's perfectly fine for Beijing letting Russia and Iran take the brunt of the hit from the West (U.S immediate priorities) and it also avoids Russia from having a stronger pull inside the S.C.O with Iran in.

    SCO Missile shield is a pipedream (as with many other pipedreams - Eurasian NATO) as long as China behaves the way it does.

    This thing is bound to be a paper tiger until Russia is strong enough to have its previous sphere of influence resurrected (if it wants to survive Washington's long term plan - the partition of the Russian Federation). The power-sharing between two big powers is never ever going to work. In that, the Americans are right. Both Russia and China will deal with the differences as it's beneficial for now until it comes such a time when there is no longer sufficient benefit vs. rivalship. That is, for Russia: ascendance once again as a big power, restoring its political clout and power throughout Central Asia, as well as building strong economic ties and hooking China like a drug user on "neo-Soviet energy". For China, to calm conflict in the region which benefits everyone, but specially them when it comes to expanding economic ties as well as ensuring access to energy corridors. Defence cooperation will be minimal - that is, intelligenge sharing, work on crime/drug and terrorism, deconfliction of some disputes but that's about it. Strategic defense however... as in a NATO/Warsaw Pact organization.... not there yet, not going there. Russia might want it, given its current luck but China certainly doesn't.

    Pay attention to Russia asking for Iran to get in....keep watch next year and see if it happens. Already denied this year.
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    Post  eehnie on Tue Jun 27, 2017 2:22 pm

    ATLASCUB wrote:Can't never ever trust the Chinese. #1 reason Iran is not in yet is China. China doesn't wanna anger its partners in the West (U.S 660b trade) and M.E (Saudi's and Israeli's). Not much news about China vs. USA anymore.... Pivot to Asia - dead - in essence - pretty much in the backburner for now - low heat....

    In that respect it's perfectly fine for Beijing letting Russia and Iran take the brunt of the hit from the West (U.S immediate priorities) and it also avoids Russia from having a stronger pull inside the S.C.O with Iran in.

    SCO Missile shield is a pipedream (as with many other pipedreams - Eurasian NATO) as long as China behaves the way it does.

    This thing is bound to be a paper tiger until Russia is strong enough to have its previous sphere of influence resurrected (if it wants to survive Washington's long term plan - the partition of the Russian Federation). The power-sharing between two big powers is never ever going to work. In that, the Americans are right. Both Russia and China will deal with the differences as it's beneficial for now until it comes such a time when there is no longer sufficient benefit vs. rivalship. That is, for Russia: ascendance once again as a big power, restoring its political clout and power throughout Central Asia, as well as building strong economic ties and hooking China like a drug user on "neo-Soviet energy". For China, to calm conflict in the region which benefits everyone, but specially them when it comes to expanding economic ties as well as ensuring access to energy corridors. Defence cooperation will be minimal - that is, intelligenge sharing, work on crime/drug and terrorism, deconfliction of some disputes but that's about it. Strategic defense however... as in a NATO/Warsaw Pact organization.... not there yet, not going there. Russia might want it, given its current luck but China certainly doesn't.

    Pay attention to Russia asking for Iran to get in....keep watch next year and see if it happens. Already denied this year.

    Reaching trolling level.

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