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    Post  GunshipDemocracy on Thu Dec 27, 2018 2:27 am

    Nibiru wrote:Russia’s Security Council urges coordination in conducting robotics research


    good to hear, I hope they understand that besides fiscal stimulus also people with skills and mgmt with proper mindset are needed? ;-)

    AFAIK in Soviet union there was installed ~100,000 industrial robots. IMHO with small internal market and without solid govt support there is no way to build any competitive company in IR. Perhaps with govt. support measures and + new niche like "collaborating robotics" vide rethink robotics, could help.


    Why in Russia there are few robots in factories. And where have they already started to replace people

    https://tass.ru/ekonomika/5821888



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    Post  GunshipDemocracy on Thu Dec 27, 2018 2:28 am

    PapaDragon wrote:

    Russia’s High-Tech AI Robot Turns Out To Be Human In Robot Costume

    why some idiots in TV should to have anything to do with robots in Russia?
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    Post  miketheterrible on Thu Dec 27, 2018 3:35 am

    GunshipDemocracy wrote:
    Nibiru wrote:Russia’s Security Council urges coordination in conducting robotics research


    good to hear, I hope they understand that besides fiscal stimulus also people with skills and mgmt with proper mindset are needed? ;-)

    AFAIK in Soviet union there was installed ~100,000 industrial robots.  IMHO with small internal market and without solid govt support there is no way to build any competitive company in IR. Perhaps with govt. support measures and + new niche like "collaborating robotics" vide rethink robotics, could help.


    Why in Russia there are few robots in factories. And where have they already started to replace people


    https://tass.ru/ekonomika/5821888




    There is a growing general misconception being pushed.

    Robotics are good for specific tasks, but lets be realistic here. In the west, we are facing a major crisis where we know Robotics are taking over jobs that normally were pretty good paying. In this regard, a lot of these former workers end up in service jobs making minimum wage.

    To add, the article made mention of one thing - profit. The issue is, many companies in Russia only have domestic market and have little prospects for export of any kind besides to third world nations with little ability to spend billions. So in reality, low rate production raises costs but it wouldn't be profitable enough for a company to install robots to do the job cause they cost too much, and the maintenance on them is very costly (only additional job created, maintenance). So it could work, but only in the major companies. It is mentioned automotive companies - Most Russian automotive companies are foreign owned or financed/controlled so it isn't the Russian governments fault for the lack of investment in robots in the industry domestically. Actually, it goes against the concept of "free market" if the companies and agencies demand the Russian government to intervene and invest in the robotics. Why not the companies themselves?

    There will become a time where they will revert to the old method and we will see articles "why the west leads in employing people back into factories while Russia is behind" because that is what everything is in Russia, always wanting to be like the west. Reality is, Russia still has an unemployed people. Only benefit that Russia may see to drive up robotics is that their population is aging and a huge portion of their workers will retire soon. So lack of skilled workers that can be replaced by robots will benefit. But what if there is a population boom/increase? What about the younger generation? Work is work and one needs it to put a roof over their head. If robots start to replace average person like they talk about here (Robots cooking, robots taking orders, etc) then a lot of people will not be able to buy average goods. When that happens, those companies who roboticized will find that they no longer have orders.

    There has to be a fine line. Like "we need to keep people working and paying taxes" vs "Can this job that is just way too dangerous be done by a robot?"
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    Post  miketheterrible on Sat Dec 29, 2018 9:39 am

    https://sdelanounas.ru/blogs/115705/

    NBC "Missile Technology" the test rocket engine printed on a 3D printer detail



    The company "NTRC Missile Technology" (NBC RT) has begun firing testing of a new liquid rocket engine (LRE) with printed on a 3D printer Fig.

    The first stage of testing the engine without a nozzle in Broncemar — started on October 26, 2018 LRE a few times has been involved for a short time to check the plugs and the health of the stand.

    Rocket engine with regenerative cooling, running on white spirit and nitrous oxide, were developed in the NTRC RT in 2018. The possibility to fabricate the injector head of the engine as traditional methods (CNC) and 3D-printer. In the end the choice was made in favor of additive technologies. The mixing head was printed from cobalt-chromium-molybdenum alloy.

    NTRC RT presented a report on the development and testing at the industry conference "3D Concentrate" in Voronezh on December 3, 2018 After the successful completion of a full cycle of tests the company will release video and technical characteristics of the engine.
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    Post  GunshipDemocracy on Wed Jan 02, 2019 1:20 am

    Today strange news: 2 sources same event but described form 2 different angles.


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    Siberian scientists have launched an installation that can increase plasma heating significantly
    In the future, a spiral magnetic open trap will be used in an environmentally friendly thermonuclear reactor operating without super-heavy hydrogen.


    NOVOSIBIRSK, December 25. / TASS /. Scientists of the Institute of Nuclear Physics (INP) of the Siberian Branch of the RAS in Novosibirsk created and launched a unique installation "Resin" (spiral magnetic open trap), which will allow increasing plasma heating from 10 million degrees several times in the future, the deputy director of the INP SB RAS told on Monday on scientific work Alexander Ivanov.

    In the future, the trap will be used in an environmentally friendly thermonuclear reactor operating without super-heavy hydrogen.

    "We have a GDL facility (gas dynamic trap - TASS note), on which we have already heated the plasma to 10 million degrees. If we supply it with such elements (as" Resin "- TASS note), the plasma temperature should increase several times This idea for the development of linear plasma motion systems was proposed for the first time in the world, "said Ivanov.

    As TASS was told in the press service of the INP SB RAS, if the plasma confinement parameters in the Resin are confirmed, then these principles will be laid into a larger installation - a gas-dynamic magnetic trap (GDML), which is planned to be done at the institute. Work on the GDML is carried out as part of the creation of an environmentally friendly fusion reactor, which does not use super-heavy hydrogen - tritium.

    “The new facility is a beautiful implementation of the idea of ​​plasma confinement physics with high parameters to ensure thermonuclear fusion. The physics of the new approach will be studied in the next two years at this facility,” added Pavel Logachev, director of the INP SB RAS RAS academician.
    Resin was created in about a year with the support of the Russian Science Foundation. Estimated cost - 10 million rubles.

    https://tass.ru/nauka/4840736


    10m rubles -> ~$150k




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    Siberian physicists have confirmed the possibility of creating a plasma engine


    NOVOSIBIRSK, Dec 27 - RIA Novosti . The first experiments on the latest installation for confining thermonuclear plasma in linear magnetic systems confirmed the possibility of creating a plasma rocket engine, Alexander Ivanov, deputy director of the Institute of Nuclear Physics (BINP), told reporters on Thursday.
    At the end of last year, the Institute launched a unique scientific facility, bringing Russia closer to the creation of a fusion reactor. The installation of Pitch (Spiral Magnetic Open Trap) is a plasma trap that will allow you to test a fundamentally new concept of improved confinement of thermonuclear plasma in linear magnetic systems. The installation is focused on solving several problems, including the creation of a prototype engine for space travel. Holding NPO Energomash in October reported that it plans to create a model of high-power electrodeless plasma rocket engine (BPRD) and a stand for testing it, such engines could well manifest themselves in the vast solar system.

    "The installation began to work with some restriction on the parameters associated with the use of temporary details. The first experiments showed that the effect exists. And the space engine works, and the means to reduce plasma losses, too," said the scientist.
    Ivanov noted that standard equipment has now been installed, in connection with which scientists are preparing for the start of new experiments at the facility in January 2019, which should fully demonstrate its capabilities.
    "The installation is a demonstrator, a prototype. The plasma temperature in it is 100 thousand degrees and a high enough density. For a neutron source, these parameters are far from those required, and for the engine it is just what you need," he said.

    The scientist explained that the proposed principle of engine operation is based on a new method of accelerating plasma flows, which is associated with a special configuration of the magnetic field, where the plasma is driven into rotation. At the same time, depending on the direction of rotation, the plasma is either inhibited or accelerated, which creates jet thrust.

    https://ria.ru/20181227/1548801959.html

    and here about same project but more into detail tech

    https://www.roscosmos.ru/22261/



    and here:


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    https://habr.com/post/394651/



    "
    The currently considered version of the electrodeless plasma rocket engine is a new generation of electric propulsion. It has high energy efficiency, the ability to use almost any substance as a working medium , can change the value of the specific impulse, and the maximum engine power is limited almost exclusively by the power supply of the high-frequency generator. Also, an engine of this type can potentially have a long service life, since all restrictions associated with exposure to an energy-saturated working substance with structural elements are removed.

    The implementation of the ideas embodied in the proposed development became possible due to the progress in the study of plasma thermonuclear fusion processes, in the development of high-temperature superconductors technology and modern element base of high-frequency generators. When creating such an engine, developers will have to solve the problems of optimizing plasma processes, developing a high-frequency generator, cryogenic magnetic systems, as well as power systems and control of a TU. Providing a solution to these problems will require the creation of an experimental and test bench base.

    +++

    Studies of various types of electric propulsion conducted by enterprises participating in the NTS IS showed that the most rational solution to the problem of creating an electric propulsion engine with a capacity of 100 kW or more is the development of an electrodeless plasma rocket engine. BPRD has high performance and allows you to provide the required resource for the development of deep space.

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    Post  Vann7 on Sun Jan 06, 2019 9:14 am

    Russia have the scientific power to be Truly Independent nation and leader in the world, but is being hold back
    by short sight politics of its administration.

    here is a new major invention of Siberian scientist.
    a fully usable and efficient pocket size -portable nuclear battery-....



    How this technology can be used?
    Electric Cars , Space ships , Bases in the moon or mars will benefit
    enourmously from efficient nuclear batteries that last 50 years..  

    The electricity that produce ,the voltage is only 2 volts.. but if you combine
    a few hundred of them ,the power will multiply enough to supply a room with electricity or a space ship cabin ,
    for 50 years. or a vehicle , it will not be dependent of having good weather like solar panels ,that also very vulnerable to storms..neither is dangerous for people health.. the nuclear batteries can be in the safety inside any space ship or room or room..working non stop.
    for decades ,powering anything.
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    Post  magnumcromagnon on Thu Jan 10, 2019 3:04 am

    New aircraft design on Russian supercomputers and programs


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    How does the composite wing behave at speeds of four mach? Will the serviceability of the VityazD drone equipment when it dives in the Mariana Trench? What kind of "Elephant" will replace the transport super heavyweight "Ruslan" and will the hybrid of an ekranoplan and a heavy transport worker be able to fly on a bird's flight - from 3 to 12 meters above the ground and water? Where and why is additional thermal protection of the Angara launch vehicle nodes needed?

    To answer these and a thousand other equally important questions that arise when creating new equipment, its designers and developers are no longer enough a slide rule and full-scale experience on a test bench. The aircraft industry, the rocket and space industry, the creation of surface ships and submarines, the auto industry and, of course, nuclear power - none of these industries can do today without a modern computing base, specially developed programs and computer codes. Already not only a drawing board from Soviet films about science and design bureaus, but also the first 3D modeling programs are a thing of the past. A new tool and at the same time the workspace of the designer becomes the "digital twin". “A few years ago a technology was introduced in our bureau, which allowed us to develop all the documentation in electronic form using 3D,” said Vladimir Dorofeyev, Director General of Malachite St. Petersburg Maritime Engineering Bureau, in a recent interview with RG. - And today we are setting a wider task: we want to create a virtual equivalent of a nuclear submarine that reproduces not only the perceived form, but also the properties and behavior of the already constructed one. This technology is known by the term "digital twin" and is an integral part of a more global concept of digital production. It is here that we see the possibility of a radical increase in efficiency, improvement of product quality and cost reduction in the implementation of new projects ... According to Dorofeev and his colleagues, digital technologies have become a part of our life, and the work of the project bureau without their use and development can no longer be imagined. Yes, there was a time when the engineers and designers involved in the project to create the first Soviet nuclear submarine needed several large buildings in different parts of Leningrad to reproduce in a wooden model - in parts-compartments, but in full size - the entire submarine community with two nuclear reactors, turbines, generators and other stuffing, including weapons - eight torpedo tubes in the nose compartment. Pumps, engines, switchboards, other equipment imitated with wooden boxes, kilometers of cables and pipelines - with ropes. Now it seems almost unbelievable. "Stone Age", - can someone say, discovering the declassified history of the first years of the Atomic Project. But after all, nothing had passed - less than the life of a single generation. In the technology and production for the same six decades, several technological structures have changed.

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    The aircraft have long and many times exceeded the speed of sound, the missiles become hypersonic.

    In place of aluminum and its alloys, composites come into the aircraft industry. Titanium and special steel grades in the hulls of underwater vehicles allow us to conquer depths of six to seven and sweep for 12 kilometers, as the developers of the uninhabited submersible apparatus Vityaz-D from the Rubin design bureau and its customers from the Future research.

    The slide rule, kulman and the first, already mastered 3D modeling programs are a thing of the past. A new tool and at the same time workspace of the designer becomes the "digital twin"

    Further more.

    The Admiralty shipyards in St. Petersburg have already begun cutting steel for an ice-resistant capsule "North Pole" - the first of its kind drifting polar station, which was designed by order of the Institute of the Arctic and Antarctic of the Russian Academy of Sciences.

    And for interplanetary space missions and solving utilitarian tasks in near-earth orbit in Russia, an unparalleled transport and energy module (TEM) with a one-megawatt nuclear engine is being created - a kind of hybrid of tugboat, pusher and mini-AES. To cool such a reactor in an airless space, a unique and seemingly very fragile design was invented, based on the drip cooler-radiator.

    Moscow NIKIET - Research and Design Institute of Power Engineering named after N.A. Dollezhala and the Keldysh Research Center undertook, on the order of Roscosmos, to create TEM and already announced the successful completion of ground tests of the cooling system of its reactor.

    For the topic of our conversation, the main word here is “ground”. After all, no matter how hard you try to reproduce on earth conditions close to weightlessness, it is just an approximation. And how the proposed construction behaves in the realities of real space, one can only speculate.

    Or - cheat-simulate on a supercomputer, using specially designed programs. Having seen the result on the digital model, it is possible at an early stage, when the choice has not yet been made and the money has not been spent, to make some important adjustments, to redefine something, and thereby reduce the path of trial and error.

    Perhaps, before others, this need was experienced by nuclear specialists who were directly involved in the development of nuclear weapons and in maintaining the potential that had already been created and is in service. Under the conditions of a complete ban on field testing (the STBT agreement Russia signed in 1996, ratified in 2000) it would be impossible to do this without powerful supercomputers and its own calculation base.

    Almost thirty years have passed since the last nuclear test conducted by our country (October 24, 1990). During this time, our nuclear scientists in Sarov and Snezhinsk have made up for the US national laboratories in Los Alamos, Livermore and Sandia in the field of supercalculations.

    And they didn’t just catch up, but managed to isolate from this work an important and increasingly popular product for civilian use. The first such sign was the software package of engineering analysis and supercomputer modeling "Logos", developed in Sarov by a team of mathematicians and programmers of the Russian Federal Nuclear Center of the All-Russian Research Institute of Experimental Physics.

    It was, firstly, a derivative of the unique experience of our nuclear scientists under the ban on nuclear testing. And secondly, it appears to be the result of competently built cooperation with the participation of industrial science centers, institutes of the Russian Academy of Sciences, as well as flagship enterprises in the rocket and space sphere, nuclear energy, aircraft and automotive industries.

    According to the director of RFNC-VNIIEF, Valentina Kostyukov, at first a basic version of the software package for engineering analysis and supercomputer modeling was created, which found active use in high-tech enterprises.

    And then, with the participation of partner companies, the creation of what is called the “product being alienated,” that is, the software package with its license, user manual, set of options and the corresponding price line, began. The case was helped by the fact that in 2016, at the suggestion of the Ministry of Industry and Trade of Russia, Government Decree N 933 was issued, which opened the green light to the development of domestic software.

    In order to shape the appearance of the user version of the Logos software package, nuclear scientists requested and worked out the requirements from the six leading organizations of the Russian military-industrial complex — the Sukhoi company, the Malachit SPMBM, KAMAZ, the NPO Mashinostroeniya, and the MV Center Khrunichev and Afrikantov OKBM. What, for whom and how useful such interaction turned out to be, was the opportunity to learn at the public presentation of the Logos Aero-Hydro software package.

    And learn firsthand.

    “Since 2016, we have gone from test licenses and training to solving real practical problems in aerodynamics,” said Alexander Lorenso Pakina, an IL representative. - Now "Logos" is actively used at all stages of the design of transport aircraft of various classes. Used in the development and testing of the entire aerodynamic layout of the aircraft and its individual elements. Previously, we could not model using calculations, but used expensive experiments. The use of mathematical models and approaches has significantly improved the reliability and accuracy of the results. And with the use of supercomputer technologies RFNC-VNIIEF calculations do not last day, as before, but hours. In the future, we would like to expand the range of tasks that we solve - in particular,

    Head of the Sukhoi Design Bureau of High Performance Computing, Alexander Kornev, in turn, confirmed that they began to engage in supercomputer technologies in 2002, when the silhouette of the Su57 loomed on the horizon. Now "Logos Aero-Hydro" is actively used in the development of the promising Russian fifth-generation multifunctional fighter. Colleague Korneva, deputy director of the Design and Research Scientific Center at the Sukhoi Design Bureau Dmitry Strelets added: "The digital twin, digital test site, digital testing is on the way."

    12 kilometers - the underwater UAV “Vityaz-D”, which is created in St. Petersburg, is designed for such a depth, and in 2019 they plan to test it in the Mariana Trench

    Representatives of companies who have already gained experience working with Logos Aero-Hydro, note the high performance and adaptability of domestic software. Its competitive advantages are the accuracy and high speed of calculations on large-scale tasks, operational technical support and training, the ability to adapt to the customer and assistance in solving non-standard tasks.

    And besides all that has been said, the absence of sanction risks, which in the present circumstances is of particular value.

    Direct speech
    Mikhail Bolsukhin, Head of the Department of OKBM Afrikantov, Nizhny Novgorod:


    - As developers of reactor installations for various purposes, we are pleased with the successful promotion of Logos and our participation in this process. We, for example, are developing technologies for supercomputer modeling of reactor installations. We have learned well and are using foreign commercial codes for solving various problems of nuclear energy. But not all. And these are exactly the tasks we set for the developers of the Logos code. The software package created by them for engineering calculations in the fields of aero- and hydrodynamics is an important, but only the first step along this path. In order to carry out full-fledged computational experiments on full-scale computer models of reactor installations, we still have a lot of collaboration.


    https://vpk.name/news/240350_novyie_samoletyi_proektiruyut_na_rossiiskih_superkompyuterah_i_programmah.html

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    Post  dino00 on Thu Jan 10, 2019 10:22 am

    Great info^^^ thumbsup
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    Post  magnumcromagnon on Thu Jan 10, 2019 3:16 pm

    dino00 wrote:Great info^^^ thumbsup

    Yes, and one really interesting quote is this:


    And for interplanetary space missions and solving utilitarian tasks in near-earth orbit in Russia, an unparalleled transport and energy module (TEM) with a one-megawatt nuclear engine is being created - a kind of hybrid of tugboat, pusher and mini-AES. To cool such a reactor in an airless space, a unique and seemingly very fragile design was invented, based on the drip cooler-radiator.

    I think this give some kind of indirect indication of Peresvet's power output.
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    Post  magnumcromagnon on Fri Jan 11, 2019 2:54 pm

    Yandex's driverless tech looks really promising:




    ...So the taxi has a combined radar, lidar, visible light optical array that has 360 degree coverage, constantly viewing 250 meters away in every direction.
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    Post  Hole on Fri Jan 11, 2019 4:59 pm

    Cool.

    And that from a company that wasn´t financed by the military/intel services like Google, Facebook and so on.
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    Post  Hannibal Barca on Fri Jan 11, 2019 5:06 pm

    So Mr. Hole Facebook valuates at 150 bln because CIA is behind it?
    I thought it is valued so much because it is very difficult to develop a web portal and keep it exactly the same for 15 years,
    while in the meantime you develop this amazing tetris like games Razz Razz Razz
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    Post  Hole on Fri Jan 11, 2019 9:49 pm

    There would be no Facebook without money from CIA/NSA.
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    Post  magnumcromagnon on Sat Jan 12, 2019 12:12 am

    Hole wrote:There would be no Facebook without money from CIA/NSA.

    Yes In-Q-tel, apparently Facebook sells the data mining services in exchange.
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    Post  magnumcromagnon on Sat Jan 12, 2019 12:16 am

    Hole wrote:Cool.

    And that from a company that wasn´t financed by the military/intel services like Google, Facebook and so on.

    Whats interesting is that its capable be fitted on existing cars as opposed to selling the whole car like you see with Tesla. Filling in that niche could prove to be successful, the niche that people want self-driving cars but not the high price-tag like on Tesla models, and could be fitted on existing car models.
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    Post  GunshipDemocracy on Sat Jan 12, 2019 12:27 am

    Hole wrote:Cool. and that from a company that wasn´t financed by the military/intel services like Google, Facebook and so on.

    well, not by US intel for sure. Not sre if Russian intel wasn't included lol1 lol1 lol1



    Unmanned Kamaz vehicles to be tested on public roads this year


    More:
    http://tass.com/economy/1039374
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    Post  miketheterrible on Mon Feb 11, 2019 4:07 pm

    https://sdelanounas.ru/blogs/117073/

    "Yandex" started the production of the on-Board computer for vehicles

    https://sdelanounas.ru/blogs/117096/

    The device of protection against pulse interference three phase electrical installations and power circuits

    https://sdelanounas.ru/blogs/117100/

    Superconductor on Board: MAI created a powerful electric aircraft engine
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    Post  miketheterrible on Mon Feb 11, 2019 5:23 pm

    https://rostec.ru/news/tsniitochmash-adaptiroval-umnye-ochki-dlya-shkolnikov/

    TSNIITOCHMASH adapted "smart glasses" for students

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    Didn't realise that the goggles had connection and they were actually smart visors.
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    Post  GunshipDemocracy on Tue Feb 12, 2019 3:06 am

    The contract has been signed - the Russian system “Plato” will work in India

    https://sdelanounas.ru/blogs/117116/

    Platon - toll road's management system


    Geometric core C3D became part of Altium Designer 19 and Altium NEXUS



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    Altium, the world's leading developer of electronic device design, released Altium Designer 19 with enhanced 3D functionality created by C3D Toolkit from C3D Labs , a subsidiary of ASCON. One of the most popular CAD systems for printed circuit boards contains three key components of the C3D Toolkit: the geometric core C3D Modeler, the parametric solver C3D Solver and the exchange module C3D Converter.

    Altium, the first to introduce 3D-modeling in the design of printed circuit boards, continues to lead in the field of electronic design, combining in its solutions the classic tools of EDA-and MCAD-systems.

    As a result of the use of C3D Toolkit in multi-board design tools (Multi-Board Design), Altium Designer 19 introduced the functionality typical of mechanical CAD systems: support for flexible-rigid boards, pairing operations, data export to popular MCAD formats. Components from C3D Labs ensured high accuracy and speed of geometric constructions.

    Support for flex-rigid boards is implemented on the basis of the module of sheet modeling of the geometric core C3D Modeler.
    https://ascon.ru/news_and_events/news/2849/
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    Post  kvs on Sun Feb 24, 2019 8:06 pm

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fCdLZnQCyXg

    Anti-Russian hate propaganda from the US-led western media and US regime organs.

    They actually attack Rosnano for being a spy outfit because it invests in tech startups in the west. WTF? What happened
    to private property you Yankee f*cks? Last time I checked the investors who pay for tech innovation get to own it. This
    ain't a charity operation.

    I bet if there was US investment in Russian startups, the US would demand ownership of the intellectual property. Hell, the
    US oil corporations who signed production sharing agreements to extract oil and gas in Russia actually claimed that they owned
    the oil and gas fields (i.e. Russian resources).

    So GET THE F*CK OUT, bloody American hypocrites.
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    Post  Hole on Sun Feb 24, 2019 9:05 pm

    Everybody spies, except western spy… ur, intelligence agencies. They work to secure democracy, human rights and... Mad pale a second longer and I would have thrown up on my keyboard. lol!
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    Post  miketheterrible on Sun Feb 24, 2019 9:40 pm

    Well, Rusnano was under heavy scrutiny within Russia so maybe now they will be forced to spend their money within the country. But of course, it is ran by everyones favorite Chubias whom was a US stooge anyway. So either he flees with the money or tries to use the government handouts he gets, against his own government. Which I hope he does so it finally lands his corrupt ass in jail.

    Rusnano should not have been investing in the west like it has. Most of its investments has been failures anyway.
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    Post  kvs on Mon Feb 25, 2019 2:12 am

    miketheterrible wrote:Well, Rusnano was under heavy scrutiny within Russia so maybe now they will be forced to spend their money within the country.  But of course, it is ran by everyones favorite Chubias whom was a US stooge anyway.  So either he flees with the money or tries to use the government handouts he gets, against his own government.  Which I hope he does so it finally lands his corrupt ass in jail.

    Rusnano should not have been investing in the west like it has.  Most of its investments has been failures anyway.

    Do you have a reference?  The video cites an example of a success where Rosnano doubled its investment and got the IP rights for Russian
    use.  In fact, the video refers to a large number of such cases.   Rosnano has collected the rewards of these investments and is now
    pumping up Russian startups.

    The problem I have with blanket failure statements about Rosnano is that I see no evidence of this.   But as the video refers to, there
    is lets of yapping by various "non-believers".  

    Chubais is clearly not being allowed to run Rosnano into the ground.   And as the video points out, what is exactly Rosnano supposed
    to invest in Russia when there have been basically zero startups.   It is Rosnano that is boostrapping startups in Russia.
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    Post  miketheterrible on Mon Feb 25, 2019 6:51 am

    kvs wrote:
    miketheterrible wrote:Well, Rusnano was under heavy scrutiny within Russia so maybe now they will be forced to spend their money within the country.  But of course, it is ran by everyones favorite Chubias whom was a US stooge anyway.  So either he flees with the money or tries to use the government handouts he gets, against his own government.  Which I hope he does so it finally lands his corrupt ass in jail.

    Rusnano should not have been investing in the west like it has.  Most of its investments has been failures anyway.

    Do you have a reference?  The video cites an example of a success where Rosnano doubled its investment and got the IP rights for Russian
    use.  In fact, the video refers to a large number of such cases.   Rosnano has collected the rewards of these investments and is now
    pumping up Russian startups.

    The problem I have with blanket failure statements about Rosnano is that I see no evidence of this.   But as the video refers to, there
    is lets of yapping by various "non-believers".  

    Chubais is clearly not being allowed to run Rosnano into the ground.   And as the video points out, what is exactly Rosnano supposed
    to invest in Russia when there have been basically zero startups.   It is Rosnano that is boostrapping startups in Russia.

    If that's the case, good. But I'm saying most was reference from Russians themselves asking "why the money invested going west?" And there were failures like liotech in Russia which I think got partially sold to someone else and now doing well.

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