In total, the Soviet Union, more than 100 thousand. Industrial robotics units were produced. They replaced the more than one million workers. The most striking thing is that these 100 thousand robots disappeared from 1992 to 1994 completely. The question is whether we should now restore industrial robotics? Of course, it is necessary.
Flanky wrote:Well i was in shock to find that we here in Slovakia had during communist times industrial robots that were pretty much on pair with current western technology. It was just that because of the focus of giving jobs to people first and foremost that they were not as much utilized. But in current Russia as much as i hate to admit they lack the industrial robotics and automation - sure there are efforst to catch.
Simple in USSR there were pretty well developed industrial robotics. Robotics does not cause unemployment!!! replaces low skilled jobs with highly skilled ones. There wa salso well developed machine building and aerospace industries. All was destroyed on purpose by U$ after Soviet Union was sold by Gorbi&co
Russia was to be assume role of raw materials colonial appendix to west. Russia by criminal oligarch clans. Well Putin tries to change that, As long as CBR, Shuvalobv, Chubais, Medved and Co will be kudrining not so good outlook tho.
This waiting for mythical infestors who do what? develop hi tech? bwahahahah this is good for low paid jobs as in eastern europe. where you have their own tech companies on their own? I mean large ones? none
BTW first Soviet Ir was bult in 1969...universal was called afaik
sepheronx wrote:They already produce consumer products. They already produce various robotics, etc etc etc. It is pointless to discuss this because Russia wont go into replacing everyone with such tools because then it defeats the purpose of the economy. Russia cannot afford to have a high unemployment. At that, when people are left without a job thanks to manufacturing jobs loss, then only two other industries survive with people - service jobs and logistical (and even logistical is moving towards robotics as well). Which means that Service jobs are the end result and what kind are those jobs? Mostly fast food and are part time (usually) and very low pay.
A lot of these people who propose idea of robotics are the CEO's and holders of the companies. Because they want to maximize profit under their own rule. But eventually, when no one has jobs, no one can purchase these goods. The people in the end, end up as welfare queens and it will be more of a burden on the economy than benefit. Only people who will benefit from it are the wealthy, till their businesses go under.
Using robotics for instance to assist (not replace) people at the job to increase accuracy in terms of QC, then I support it. Outside of that, no.
so USSR was investing in robotics to produce jobles? nope robots take over simple, dirty and repeatable jobs leaving demand for qualified technicians and engineers. A man cannot do for 12 hours better job in welding then robot, or moving metal parts between machines.
Problem that in Russia for couple of next years numbers of qualified workforce will be dramatic low. Russia needs more workforce but qualified. Who´s gonna work in hi-tech? janitors from Uzbekistan? This sounds cruel but attracting engineers from other countries like U-crying or Vietnam would be a good idea.