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    AlfaT8

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    Re: Arctic rush

    Post  AlfaT8 on Wed Apr 11, 2018 1:20 am

    Hole wrote:Arctic Obsession?
    Why do you post this english Propaganda?

    It was either here or the propaganda thread, since it was on topic, i placed it here.
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    Re: Arctic rush

    Post  kvs on Wed Apr 11, 2018 1:43 am

    Hole wrote:Arctic Obsession?
    Why do you post this english Propaganda?

    Funny how they never call Canada's dementia over its Arctic sovereignty an obsession. Canada has been accusing
    the USA, Russia and anyone else of violation of its virginity since some submarines and ships go through the Arctic
    Archipelago without kissing Ottawa's anus first. There is a 7 nautical mile territorial limit in confined waters and some
    of those channels are much wider than 14 nm.



    The route through McClure and Barrow Straits is super wide. Canada must be claiming subsurface rocks as
    genuine islands. But such ploys are BS according to international law. Canada has no right to impede navigation
    based on underwater obstacles.

    For example, Russia must allow Ukraine access through the Kerch Strait even though most of it is too shallow for
    shipping and there is only one narrow section (much less than 1 mile in width) that allows ships (this is where they
    built the metal bridges).
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    Re: Arctic rush

    Post  GarryB on Wed Apr 11, 2018 5:55 am

    Funny... I wonder if they will do programmes on places in the UK like coal mines and former textile producers.

    Interesting fact... if you come to New Zealand and go into a department store the place where they sell bedding and home decoration stuff is often called the Manchester department... because for quite some time the boxes with material for that department had manchester printed on the side... of course that department should now be called China... wonder what has happened to all those textile factories in Britain?

    Could we make a documentary about how those towns no longer have people who make clothes and that a lot of young people have left those areas looking for better prospects?

    The amusing thing is that when talking about coal and oil sales for Russia the west talks about environmental damage and global warming, but when talking about a coastal port on the northern shipping route global warming seems to become less certain...

    From what I know about global warming is that there are often tipping points... raise the siberian temperatures a few degrees and all those frozen peat bogs stop being frozen peat bogs and start being peat bogs... full of methane... release that into the air and all of a sudden global warming becomes vastly more likely an issue... your fancy western electric cars make little difference when warmth from the sun releases trillions of tons of methane into the atmosphere....


    Funny how they never call Canada's dementia over its Arctic sovereignty an obsession.

    Or their occupation of islands round the world in locations they deem strategic (ie near potential oil reserves)... cough cough Falklands...


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    Re: Arctic rush

    Post  Hole on Wed Apr 11, 2018 11:05 am

    The textile factories in England were supplied by Indian fabric. With India gone...
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    Re: Arctic rush

    Post  GarryB on Thu Apr 12, 2018 6:20 am

    India is still there... they obviously didn't want to pay a fair price for their fabric... it makes them uncompetitive...

    That is what colonies are for... cheap raw product... that is what the west wants for Russia... destabilise it so it can be the cheap raw material source for the western production machine... they keep their high standard of living and they don't care about Russia or Russians... why should they? They lost the cold war... and their punishment is the western use and abuse of their resources.

    Problem was Putin seemed to think Russians should benefit from the resources of Russia...


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    Re: Arctic rush

    Post  Hole on Thu Apr 12, 2018 11:20 am

    Yup.

    All this obsession in England with the channel and the northern sea...

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