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    Post  George1 on Sun Apr 27, 2014 8:56 pm

    Putin Signals Black Sea Fleet Expansion Plans

    Russian President Vladimir Putin has signaled his intent to expand the country's Black Sea Fleet now that the previous restrictions to its size have been annulled.

    On Friday, the Kremlin announced that "The Government and the Defence Ministry have been instructed to draft a development programme for the Black Sea Fleet." This follows the annulment of the agreements that Russia and Ukraine had signed in 2010, on account of the fact that Ukraine is no longer in charge of Crimea. As RIA Novosti puts it: "The development of Russia’s Black Sea Fleet became an important task for the country when a number of agreements were annulled with Ukraine after the Crimean Peninsula was reunited with Russia last month."

    One key provision of those agreements was that Russia was not allowed to expand the number or capability of the ships it had in the Black Sea Fleet; instead it could only replace an old ship with a new one of the same class. When Russia reached a deal with then-president Viktor Yanukovych in December in a failed attempt to shore up Yanukovych's rule, it reportedly included a provision to "start negotiations on preparation of a bilateral agreement on replacement of weaponry and military equipment" of the fleet. Russia had long been pushing Ukraine to alter their agreement so that the fleet could add more ships; now those constraints are gone and Russia can add as much as it wants. Aside from potential additional ships, one analysis in the journal New Eastern Europe suggests various on-land expansion possibilities:

    Now that Moscow’s military presence is no longer constrained by former legal agreements with the Ukrainian side, it can fully utilise the geostrategic potential of Crimea by implementing a broad spectrum of mutually reinforcing instruments. The Iskander surface-to-surface tactical ballistic missile, for example, with a 400 kilometre operational range, could cover the entire southern part of Ukraine - including important industrial cities like Odessa, Kryvyi Rih and Dnipropetrovsk, a large part of Moldova, the entire Romanian coastline and a significant part of the Turkish Black Sea coast. The surface-to-surface systems can be further complemented by long-range, anti-aircraft and anti-ship missiles providing a full spectrum of capability to strike ground targets, interdict maritime traffic and impose no-fly zones.

    But there has been little concrete information about Russia may be planning for the Fleet. And Russia has ambitious military expansion plans all over, and there is ample skepticism about whether it will be able to afford them. RIA Novosti emphasizes the money that will be saved by annulling the Sevastopol base agreement:

    As part of the former agreements, Russia paid the Ukrainian government $530 million annually for the base, and wrote off nearly $100 million of Kiev’s debt for the right to use Ukrainian waters.

    As part of the 2010 deal, Ukraine also received a discount of $100 on each 1,000 cubic meters of natural gas imported from Russia, which was provided for by cutting export duties on the gas, money that would have gone into the Russian state budget.

    But there are a number of other costs associated with annexing Crimea. Anyway, the development plan, for which Prime Minister Dmitry Medvedev and Defense Minister Sergey Shoigu are responsible, is due on Putin's desk by June 1.
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    Post  Viktor on Mon Apr 28, 2014 2:00 am

    I did not know about limitations, great article.

    Now Crimea will ensure superiority in Black Sea and provide control to Romania where US plans their shield.
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    Post  George1 on Thu May 29, 2014 8:47 pm

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    Post  George1 on Thu Jun 26, 2014 6:08 pm

    Rostov-on-Don submarine launched for Russian Black Sea Fleet

    A launching ceremony for the Rostov-on-Don (Project 636) diesel electric submarine built for the Russian Black Sea Fleet took place at Admiralty Shipyards in St. Petersburg on June 26, a Russian Defense Ministry source told Interfax-AVN. "Six submarines of this project will be built for the Black Sea Fleet within the next two years.

    Russian Navy main command expects that the revival of the combat potential of the Black Sea Fleet's submarine forces should enable it to fully perform its duties in its area of responsibility," he said. Russian Navy Deputy Commander Vice Adm. Alexander Fedotenkov took part in the ceremony.

    30 new warships to be delivered to Russia's Black Sea Fleet in next 6 years

    Russia's Black Sea Fleet will get about 30 new warships in the next six years, Navy Commander-in-Chief Viktor Chirkov said on Saturday, June 21. "The Black Sea Fleet will receive six Project 636 submarines by 2016 and the first of the six Project 1135.6 escort ships in 2015. The Fleet will also get six Project 22160 patrol boats for patrolling territorial waters and the 200-mile exclusive economic zone, escorting ships at sea and protecting naval bases and water areas to warn about enemy attacks," he said.

    On June 27, the Russian Navy will be joined by a new-generation mine countermeasures vessel (Project 12700) designed by the Almaz Design Bureau and built by the Sredne-Nevsky Shipyard. The vessel is intended for finding and destroying mines near naval bases at safe distances. "Three more such ships will be built shortly," Chirkov said.

    The Navy will also acquire four fast-speed Raptor patrol boats complete with the most up-to-date control systems and intended for landing and assault missions. "The Navy expects to receive more than 50 ships and support vessels before the end of the year," he said.

    Chirkov said earlier this week that the Black Sea Fleet was "obsolete beyond reason and we now have the opportunity to stop its aging and upgrade underground and surface forces in order to be able to carry out our missions effectively in the Black and Mediterranean Seas".

    The leading ship of the series, Admiral Grigorovich, was launched on March 14 and will be handed over to the Navy by the end of the year. The shipyard is also building four other frigates. The ships have been designed by the Northern Design Bureau.

    The Black Sea Fleet is carrying out an ambitious rearmament programme to upgrade its capabilities in Crimea. However, the United Shipbuilding Corporation said that the construction of six Project 11356 escort ships for the Russian Black Sea Fleet would be completed in 2017, a year later than was initially scheduled.

    Up to date, five of the six ships have been laid down at the Yantar shipyard in Kaliningrad. Its spokesperson Sergei Mikhailov said to ITAR-TASS that the delay happened to be due to the fact that the construction of the sixth frigate would begin later than was planned. He did not mention when exactly this would happen.
    Read more: http://voiceofrussia.com/news/2014_06_26/Rostov-on-Don-submarine-launched-for-Russian-Black-Sea-Fleet-9685/
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    Re: Future of the Black Sea Fleet

    Post  George1 on Thu Jul 31, 2014 1:51 pm

    Black Sea Fleet’s Proficiency Quintuples in 2014 – Russian Ministry of Defense

    MOSCOW, July 31 (RIA Novosti) - The combat proficiency of the Russian Black Sea Fleet and Caspian Flotilla has increased fivefold since the beginning of the year, the press service of the Southern Military District said Thursday.

    “Since the beginning of the year the Black Sea Fleet and Caspian Flotilla have held 12 exercises. Last year the same period of time saw nine such exercises. The combat training rate has increased five times. The number of battle exercises, including missile and gun firing, has increased and been carried out together with air and ground forces,” the press service said.

    The number of military exercises increased 1.5 times, which included 15 missile firing exercises, about 180 gun practices, and more than 15 shelling exercises.

    In March 2014, Crimea and Sevastopol, as a result of a referendum, became part of the Russian Federation. NATO has condemned Russia’s actions and said it would respond with counter-measures.

    In July, NATO brought nine ships to the Black Sea, which is the largest number of NATO ships in the region for the past decade.
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    Re: Future of the Black Sea Fleet

    Post  George1 on Wed Aug 06, 2014 10:23 pm

    Russian Defense Ministry places first order for helicopter repairs in Sevastopol

    SEVASTOPOL, August 06. /ITAR-TASS/. The Russian Defense Ministry on Wednesday placed the first order for helicopter repairs in Sevastopol.

    “This is not a large order but it will be followed by another two... the government is considering placing more contracts at the plant,” Sevastopol’s acting Governor Sergei Menyailo said, adding that the first order was estimated at 35 million roubles.

    The Sevastopol plant will repair Black Sea Fleet helicopters which previously were repaired in other Russian regions.

    “We will have to develop new forms of cooperation. In the past we worked with Ukrainian enterprises, directly with the manufacturers. But government defence contracts will require stricter regulation,” Alexei Tolmachev, director of the Sevastopol aviation plant, said.

    The plant used to fulfill mainly foreign orders through a Ukrainian defence export agency. Now it will repair two Croatian helicopters and a Vietnamese one under direct contracts.
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    Re: Future of the Black Sea Fleet

    Post  George1 on Fri Aug 08, 2014 4:07 pm

    Russia Navy to receive new submarine for Black Sea Fleet

    MOSCOW, August 08. /ITAR-TASS/. Project 636.5 Varshavyanka head diesel-electric submarine Novorossiysk produced for Russian Black Sea Fleet will be handed over to the country’s Navy on August 28, a high-ranking source in the military and industrial sector told ITAR-TASS on Friday.

    “A festive St. Andrew naval flag-hoisting ceremony will be held abroad Novorossiysk at the Admiralty Wharfs in the city of St. Petersburg on August 28,” the high-placed military source said.

    He recalled that this submarine would be put on trials at Northern Fleet’s deep-water ranges after it is taken into naval service, before being sent to a naval base on the Black Sea coast.

    Novorossiysk was laid in August 2010. Submarines of this project belong to the third generation developed by St. Petersburg-based Design Bureau of Marine Engineering Rubin and considered to be noise lowest in the world and have a higher combat capability than submarines of previous projects. Varshavyanka project submarines are upgraded fundamentally especially for Russian Navy provided with missile and torpedo weaponry, radioelectronic and hydroacoustic equipment.

    Submarines of this project has a surface speed of 20 knots (37 kph), maximum submersion of around 300 metres, can go on autonomous sailing of 45 days, has a crew of 52 and underwater displacement of around four thousand tonnes.

    The fifth and sixth submarines are to be laid down in October - November this year, for the 310th anniversary of Admiralty Shipyard. The submarines will be named Veliky Novgorod and Kolpino.

    Admiralty Shipyard Director General Aleksandr Buzakov said previously that this year the enterprise should deliver to the Russian Navy three submarines of Project 636.3 - Novorossiysk, Rostov-on-Don and Stary Oskol.
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    Re: Future of the Black Sea Fleet

    Post  George1 on Wed Aug 13, 2014 8:52 am

    Russian Navy Launches First Varshavyanka-Class Sub for Black Sea Fleet

    MOSCOW, August 12 (RIA Novosti) – The first in the series of six Varshavyanka-class diesel-electric submarines, built for Crimea-based Black Sea Fleet, will be put in service with the Russian Navy on August 22, a Navy spokesman said on Tuesday.

    “On August 22, St. Andrew's flag of the Russian Navy will be raised on diesel-electric submarine Novorossiisk at the Admiralty Shipyards in St. Petersburg,” Capt. 1st Rank Igor Dygalo said.

    According to the spokesman, the submarine is currently undergoing the second testing phase in the Baltic Sea and will soon arrive at the Admiralty Shipyards.

    Construction of the Novorossiisk submarine started in August 2010, followed by the Rostov-on-Don sub in November 2011, the Stary Oskol in August 2012, and the Krasnodar in February 2014.

    The much-anticipated delivery of these submarines, dubbed by the US Navy as “black holes in the ocean” because they are nearly undetectable when submerged, is a key part of Russia’s naval strategy in the Mediterranean, where Moscow has recently deployed a permanent task force consisting of some 10 surface ships.

    The Varshavyanka-class (Project 636.3) is an improved version of the Kilo-class submarines and features advanced stealth technology, extended combat range and the ability to strike land, surface and underwater targets.

    These submarines are mainly intended for anti-shipping and anti-submarine missions in relatively shallow waters.

    The vessels, crewed by 52 submariners, have an underwater speed of 20 knots, a cruising range of 400 miles (electric propulsion) with the ability to patrol for 45 days. They are armed with 18 torpedoes and eight surface-to-air missiles.

    The Russian Black Sea Fleet has not received new submarines for decades and currently operates only one boat – the Kilo-class Alrosa, which joined the Navy in 1990.
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    Re: Future of the Black Sea Fleet

    Post  George1 on Wed Sep 10, 2014 5:51 am

    Sevastopol, where Russia's Black Sea Fleet is based, is situated on the Crimean Peninsula, a former Ukrainian region that recently joined Russia

    MOSCOW, September 09. /ITAR-TASS/. During drills to train to carry out combat tasks, the Russian Black Sea Fleet’s coastal missile units and naval aircraft on Tuesday practiced firing on sea targets simulating a vessel strike group of a hypothetical aggressor, the Russian Defense Ministry said.

    “Missile fire on surface targets located at the sea range to the southwest of Sevastopol was delivered by the Bastion cutting-edge mobile coastal defense missile system,” the ministry said.

    “Simultaneously with the missile men, the training targets… came under a missile and bombing raid by four Su-24 [NATO reporting name: Fencer] aircraft of the Black Sea Fleet’s naval aviation,” it said.

    According to objective control data, all missile and bomb strikes hit the targets, the ministry said, adding that the military exercises involved 15 vessels, over 10 aircraft and helicopters and coastal missile units.

    Violent anti-government protests, which started in Ukraine in November 2013 when the country’s then-president suspended the signing of an association agreement with the European Union to study the deal more thoroughly, resulted in a coup in February 2014.

    Crimea refused to recognize the coup-imposed authorities in Kiev and seceded from Ukraine to reunify with Russia in mid-March 2014 after some 60 years as part of Ukraine.
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    Re: Future of the Black Sea Fleet

    Post  George1 on Sun Sep 14, 2014 4:08 am

    September 8, 2014. Channel TVC. Russia, Republic of Crimea, Novofedorivka AFB. Return to NITKA complex.

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    Re: Future of the Black Sea Fleet

    Post  Flyingdutchman on Mon Sep 15, 2014 2:46 pm

    George1 wrote:September 8, 2014. Channel TVC. Russia, Republic of Crimea, Novofedorivka AFB. Return to NITKA complex.


    SU-33s in Crimea?
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    Post  zg18 on Mon Sep 15, 2014 3:19 pm

    Flyingdutchman wrote:SU-33s in Crimea?

    Yeah , Soviet Union built NITKA complex near Saki that simulates landing and take off on aircraft carriers. It was a source of dispute between Kyiv and Moscow , so Russian Federation built an analogue near Yeysk. Now they have two such complexes , in Saki are Su-33s and in Yeysk MiG-29Ks.
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    Post  Flyingdutchman on Mon Sep 15, 2014 6:04 pm

    zg18 wrote:
    Flyingdutchman wrote:SU-33s in Crimea?

    Yeah , Soviet Union built NITKA complex near Saki that simulates landing and take off on aircraft carriers. It was a source of dispute between Kyiv and Moscow , so Russian Federation built an analogue near Yeysk. Now they have two such complexes , in Saki are Su-33s and in Yeysk MiG-29Ks.

    Then how many Sukhois are there because most of them are stationed near Murmansk or am i wrong?
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    Post  zg18 on Mon Sep 15, 2014 6:36 pm

    Flyingdutchman wrote:Then how many Sukhois are there because most of them are stationed near Murmansk or am i wrong?

    This are Su-33s from Murmansk , they are flown from their standard base to Crimea NITKA to practice carrier borne operations. After practices they go back home.

    Naval aviation Su-30SM in new Yeysk NITKA complex (Kuban Black sea region , close to original base at Crimean Saki)

    http://bmpd.livejournal.com/991868.html

    If you`re interested just type "Ейск НИТКА" or "Cаки НИТКА" on Google , you`ll get plenty of results.
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    Post  Flyingdutchman on Tue Sep 16, 2014 10:10 am

    zg18 wrote:
    Flyingdutchman wrote:Then how many Sukhois are there because most of them are stationed near Murmansk or am i wrong?

    This are Su-33s from Murmansk , they are flown from their standard base to Crimea NITKA to practice carrier borne operations. After practices they go back home.

    Naval aviation Su-30SM in new Yeysk NITKA complex (Kuban Black sea region , close to original base at Crimean Saki)

    http://bmpd.livejournal.com/991868.html

    If you`re interested just type "Ейск НИТКА" or "Cаки НИТКА" on Google , you`ll get plenty of results.

    Thanks for the info thumbsup
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    Post  Viktor on Sat Oct 04, 2014 6:07 pm

    Damn good article thumbsup

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    Post  George1 on Tue Oct 07, 2014 11:54 am

    Russia's Black Sea Fleet to Receive New Frigate, Two Subs by 2015: Navy Commander

    MOSCOW, October 6 (RIA Novosti) - Russia's Black Sea Fleet will commission an Admiral Grigorovich-class frigate and two Varshavyanka-class diesel electric submarines by the end of 2014, Navy Commander-in-Chief, Adm. Viktor Chirkov, said Monday.

    "The Black Sea Fleet will receive two out of six Varshavyanka-class boats by the end of the year...In addition, we are planning to raise the flag on the first out of six Project 1135.6 frigates by the same time," Chirkov said in an interview with RIA Novosti.

    Crimea-based Black Sea Fleet is expected to commission all six frigates and six submarines by 2018, according to the Defense Ministry.

    Chirkov said the new vessels would be able to undertake both solo and group missions. He added that the warships could be deployed in and outside the Black Sea, for instance as part of a large navy unit deployed permanently in the Mediterranean Sea. There are also plans to use them for anti-piracy patrols in the Gulf of Aden.

    A further six support vessels are to be commissioned by the year’s end to enable the stable maintenance of the Navy’s new fleet of frigates and submarines.

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    Post  partizan on Tue Oct 07, 2014 4:09 pm

    Viktor wrote:Damn good article  thumbsup

    Rocket surprise Putin

    Can you tell us a highlights? In short.. It would be much better and more accurate translation than translating tekxt through google translator..

    Thanks in advance!!
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    Post  KomissarBojanchev on Mon Oct 27, 2014 8:44 pm

    Why the freakin hell is the smetlivy still in use? They should've thrown away that hrushchov era hulk 20 years ago. Instead they scrapped half of the udaloys and sovremennys in the 90s but let this 50s ship stay in service. But I disgress...
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    Post  GarryB on Tue Oct 28, 2014 9:09 am

    Not all the Sovs were scrapped... about 4 were sold to the Chinese from memory.

    A few had some problems with their propulsion, so scrapping them early would make sense.

    Other than that even an old boat is better than nothing, and if it still runs and doesn't cost too much to keep operational... why not?


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    Post  runaway on Tue Oct 28, 2014 9:22 am

    KomissarBojanchev wrote:Why the freakin hell is the smetlivy still in use? They should've thrown away that hrushchov era hulk 20 years ago. Instead they scrapped half of the udaloys and sovremennys in the 90s but  let this 50s ship stay in service. But I disgress...

    The Smetlivy will for sure be decommisioned when the first Grigorovich frigates comes in service, which is soon. But to keep sailors and commanders up to date in skills its essential to do it on a boat.
    Also she is not harmless with 8 Uran missiles.

    I would guess 2015-2016 the Smetlivy will lower her flag after 46 years in service and the last Kashin, which says something about the succes of the series.

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    Post  runaway on Tue Nov 25, 2014 1:26 pm


    Kerch will for sure be taken out of service, now that the Grigorovich frigates comes into service.
    But i would expect several corvettes would be needed in BSF, 21631 Buyan-M perhaps. Then its time to think about a new flagship, the Slavas cant hold forever.


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