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    Re: Eurasian Economic Union (EAEU)

    Post  Mindstorm on Fri May 23, 2014 12:49 pm


    George1 wrote:Is Putin’s Eurasian Vision Losing Steam?


    ....... Razz   Razz 

    http://www.eurasianet.org/node/68360


    George........George........believe me it don't exist anything at world more pathetic and sad than observing an history's meteor and "want to be" empire, dying a slow death like the US in that decade (and much worse will happen in the next one....) attempting frantically and in vain to fight against its progressive and unavoidable global influence's collapse and economic utter marginalization through a desperate increase and aggressiveness of any kind Psy-Op and Soft Power operations .
    Behind any closed door of the counting rooms anyone is pefectly aware of that  Very Happy .


    That of the US in those years is the most off-tone "swan song" among any fading power of whole history ; even if , we must admit that, perfectly in line with a mostly "engineered" nation, without an truly independent ,old, rooted hystorical indentity and with a social ,artistic, moral and scientific covilization literally imported from the Europe in few decades.


    George ,don't worry, within a pair of decades and half you will at maximum read something conceived at influence some Canada or Mexico's choices and ...maybe... about some meetings in Canberra  Laughing  Laughing



     


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    Re: Eurasian Economic Union (EAEU)

    Post  George1 on Fri May 23, 2014 1:25 pm

    Mindstorm wrote:
    George1 wrote:Is Putin’s Eurasian Vision Losing Steam?


    ....... Razz   Razz 

    http://www.eurasianet.org/node/68360


    George........George........believe me it don't exist anything at world  more pathetic and sad than observing an history's meteor and "want to be" empire, dying a slow death like the US in that decade (and much worse will happen in the next one....) attempting frantically and in vain to fight against its progressive and unavoidable global influence's collapse and economic utter marginalization through a desperate increase and aggressiveness of any kind Psy-Op and Soft Power operations .
    Behind any closed door of the counting rooms anyone is pefectly aware of that  Very Happy .


    That of the US in those years is the most off-tone "swan song" among any fading power of whole history ; even if , we must admit that, perfectly in line with a mostly "engineered" nation, without an truly independent ,old, rooted hystorical indentity and with a social ,artistic, moral and scientific covilization literally imported from the Europe in few decades.


    George ,don't worry, within a pair of decades and half you will at maximum read something conceived at influence some Canada or Mexico's choices and ...maybe... about some meetings in Canberra   Laughing  Laughing



     

             

    Its not mine, see http://www.eurasianet.org/node/68360

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    Re: Eurasian Economic Union (EAEU)

    Post  Hannibal Barca on Fri May 23, 2014 4:17 pm

    Mindstorm wrote:
    George1 wrote:Is Putin’s Eurasian Vision Losing Steam?


    ....... Razz   Razz 

    http://www.eurasianet.org/node/68360


    George........George........believe me it don't exist anything at world  more pathetic and sad than observing an history's meteor and "want to be" empire, dying a slow death like the US in that decade (and much worse will happen in the next one....) attempting frantically and in vain to fight against its progressive and unavoidable global influence's collapse and economic utter marginalization through a desperate increase and aggressiveness of any kind Psy-Op and Soft Power operations .
    Behind any closed door of the counting rooms anyone is pefectly aware of that  Very Happy .


    That of the US in those years is the most off-tone "swan song" among any fading power of whole history ; even if , we must admit that, perfectly in line with a mostly "engineered" nation, without an truly independent ,old, rooted hystorical indentity and with a social ,artistic, moral and scientific covilization literally imported from the Europe in few decades.


    George ,don't worry, within a pair of decades and half you will at maximum read something conceived at influence some Canada or Mexico's choices and ...maybe... about some meetings in Canberra   Laughing  Laughing
     


    Unfortunately I will not be still around when English lose the global language status. I don't think that this is in our timeframes.
    For the rest I have no doubt... but as I said I want to still have dense black hair when this day come when we will have the initiative  Cool 
    So hurry on! Full steam ahead!

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    Re: Eurasian Economic Union (EAEU)

    Post  Viktor on Mon May 26, 2014 9:21 pm

    Another huuuge bombshell from Putin  russia  thumbsup  (4 more days)

    Putin, Lukashenko, Nazarbayev to sign Eurasian Economic Union treaty on May 29

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    Re: Eurasian Economic Union (EAEU)

    Post  George1 on Wed May 28, 2014 3:11 pm

    Eurasian Economic Union to be full-fledged international organization - Kremlin aide

    A treaty on a Eurasian Economic Union that the presidents of its member-states are expected to sign in Astana will formalize this association's status as a full-fledged international organization, Russian presidential aide Yury Ushakov said.

    Speaking at a news conference on Wednesday, Ushakov reminded journalists that the organization would start operating on January 1, 2015, Interfax reports.

    Eurasian Economic Union to be created at Russian-Kazakh-Belarusian summit in Astana on May 29

    The next session of the Supreme Eurasian Economic Council will be held in Astana, Kazakhstan, on May 29, the Kremlin press service has reported.

    "The leaders of Russia, Belarus and Kazakhstan plan to sign a treaty on the Eurasian Economic Union, which will take effect on January 1, 2015," the report says.

    "The creation of the Union takes the member countries to a higher integration level," the report says. The three countries assume responsibility to guarantee free transit of goods, services, capital and workforce and conduct coordinated policies in key sectors of the economy (energy, industry, agriculture, and transport).

    "This completes the formation of a large common market in the CIS (170 million people), which will become a new powerful center of economic development," the report says.

    The negotiations are expected to address the practical aspects of the functioning of the Customs Union and the unified economic space, as well as issues relating to further expansion of the composition of Eurasian economic integration, including the accession of Armenia to the Treaty on the Eurasian Economic Union and the work on the roadmap to adapt the legislation of Kyrgyzstan to the legislation of the Customs Union and the unified economic space," the Kremlin reported, Intertfax reports.

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    Re: Eurasian Economic Union (EAEU)

    Post  Viktor on Wed May 28, 2014 4:33 pm

    Tomorrow is the Day  Laughing  Laughing  Laughing  russia  russia  russia  thumbsup  attack 

    Putin, Lukashenko, Nazarbayev to sign Eurasian Economic Union treaty on May 29



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    Re: Eurasian Economic Union (EAEU)

    Post  Vann7 on Thu May 29, 2014 5:19 am



    Can anyone explain me..

    1)What this deal means? Didn't already they were trading? What will be new with this deal?

    2) Why Armenia is not in the trade pact? I think i have read many times that Armenia is interested in Joining Russia trade block..

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    Re: Eurasian Economic Union (EAEU)

    Post  magnumcromagnon on Thu May 29, 2014 5:56 am

    George1 wrote:Is Putin’s Eurasian Vision Losing Steam?

    Who’s missing from the roundtable of the soon-to-be-formed Eurasian Economic Union? (Photo: Russian Presidential Press Service)
    Russian President Vladimir Putin (center) meets with the presidents of Belarus, Kyrgyzstan, Armenia, and Tajikistan in the Kremlin on May 8, 2014. With the Kazakh president missing from the gathering of potential members of the Eurasian Economic Union (EEU), regional experts speculated there might be differences of opinion about the pact. (Photo: Russian Presidential Press Service)

    Victory Day on May 9 was an occasion for Russians to indulge in patriotic flag waving in Moscow. Russian President Vladimir Putin used the previous day to muster a show of diplomatic support for his efforts to bring formerly Soviet states closer together.

    On May 8, Putin met with the presidents of Armenia, Belarus, Kyrgyzstan, and Tajikistan in the Kremlin. Following the success of the Euromaidan movement in Kyiv, Putin has made it a priority to shore up support among other formerly Soviet states for Russia’s geopolitical agenda, in particular the establishment of a regional economic union as a precursor to a wider political union of Eurasian states.

    A treaty on the formation of a Eurasian Economic Union (EEU) is due to be signed in Astana in late May, paving the way for its launch in January 2015. The body would be an outgrowth of the existing Customs Union, a free trade zone comprising Russia, Belarus, and Kazakhstan. Armenia and Kyrgyzstan are slated to join the Customs Union before the end of the year.

    As Putin warmly welcomed existing and potential union members in Moscow on May 8, ostensibly for security talks unrelated to the economic integration project, the question on the lips of Kremlin watchers was: will they or won’t they put pen to paper on the EEU founding document in less than three weeks’ time?

    The Moscow meeting came on the heels of a disastrous Customs Union summit in Minsk on April 29, where expectations of finalizing the treaty fizzled as Putin and his counterparts, Alexander Lukashenko of Belarus and Nursultan Nazarbayev of Kazakhstan, admitted that, at this late stage, they have differences over the pact’s wording. Nazarbayev’s conspicuous absence from the May 8 talks in Moscow, convened under the auspices of the Collective Security Treaty Organization, set tongues wagging about differences of opinion. Contacted by telephone by EurasiaNet.org, Nazarbayev’s office said it had no comment -- but some observers interpreted his no-show as a snub to Putin from one of his closest allies.

    As other regional leaders were cozying up to the Kremlin, Nazarbayev was having a tete-a-tete in Astana with a senior official from the United States, Moscow’s arch-rival in the geopolitical struggle over Ukraine. Deputy Secretary of State William Burns used the meeting to assure Nazarbayev of America’s “enduring” commitment to Kazakhstan and Central Asia, the State Department said, as the Ukraine crisis helps “underscore what’s at stake.” Regional analysts tend to believe that the recent signs are not indicators of insurmountable problems surrounding the EEU’s formation. “It’s hard to predict anything these days, but it seems to me that the treaty will be signed -- but in a reduced form, with most difficult issues to be resolved after signing,” Nargis Kassenova, director of the Central Asian Studies Center at Almaty’s KIMEP University, told EurasiaNet.org.

    “If it’s not signed it will be a blow to the reputation of Vladimir Putin, but also to some extent that of Nursultan Nazarbayev,” she added. “Both invested a lot of personal image capital into it.”

    Alex Nice, a regional analyst at the London-based Economist Intelligence Unit, also feels that integration plans are more or less on track. “It's possible there might be a further delay to the final signing of the document, but I'm confident that the treaty will come into force as planned next January,” he told EurasiaNet.org, pointing out that “negotiations on the EEU treaty are very far advanced.”

    “Of course, some of the more controversial provisions will be subject to lengthy transition periods,” Nice added.

    The chances of the agreement being signed on time are “quite high,” concurred regional security expert Aida Abzhaparova of the University of the West of England. Nazarbayev is a cheerleader for integration, she pointed out, and signing the treaty in Astana would have huge “symbolism” for him: Nazarbayev first proposed the notion of a Eurasian union long before Putin took it up, and sees himself as “the father of the idea.”

    Speculation that the union might be heading off the rails was fueled by reports on May 7 that Kyrgyzstan’s prime minister, Joomart Otorbayev, wished to postpone membership for a year -- but his spokeswoman denied the claim. Otorbayev had, on the contrary, said Kyrgyzstan would complete the legislative groundwork to join by the end of the year, Gulnura Toraliyeva told EurasiaNet.org by telephone.

    Armenia is expected to join sooner – but is currently bogged down trying to negotiate some 900 exemptions to the union’s single customs tariff.

    Analysts believe that incorporating the weaker economies of Armenia and Kyrgyzstan into the union is a sticking point in the treaty negotiations; Kazakhstan and Belarus are believed to be wary of the economic implications amid Russian efforts to expand its geopolitical clout.

    Perhaps the biggest threat to the EEU’s success is Russia’s actions in Ukraine, suggests Kassenova. “The Ukraine crisis undermined Russian policy in the post-Soviet space,” Kassenova said. “Now it’s seen as a bully without any respect for the sovereignty of its neighbors. Plus, the crisis undermined the economy of Russia and made it less capable of serving as the locomotive of integration.”

    “On the one hand, the crisis should give more bargaining power to Belarus, Kazakhstan, and Kyrgyzstan,” she continued. “On the other, the overall destiny of the project is in doubt: will Russia have the will and resources to support and sponsor it further?”

    Reader beware the article comes from "eurasianet" website, an offshoot of Radio Free Europe a notorious U.S. state dept. mouth piece media newtork which helped spread Stephan Bandera's message in Western Ukraine during the 1950's. "Eurasianet" essentially copy-and-paste all of Zbignew Brzinski's Russophobic regurgitated propaganda and make's articles and acts like that their beliefs are their very own, instead of admitting the truth that all their beliefs stem from Pro-NATO think tanks such as the Rand Corporation.

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    Re: Eurasian Economic Union (EAEU)

    Post  GarryB on Thu May 29, 2014 6:29 am

    What this deal means? Didn't already they were trading? What will be new with this deal?

    It is their own economic union... a free trade area between the countries involved... a way of cutting red tape to internal trade.


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    Re: Eurasian Economic Union (EAEU)

    Post  Asf on Thu May 29, 2014 7:26 am

    Why Armenia is not in the trade pact? I think i have read many times that Armenia is interested in Joining Russia trade block..
    It takes time to prerpare, laws for example

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    Re: Eurasian Economic Union (EAEU)

    Post  George1 on Thu May 29, 2014 11:38 am

    Russian, Kyrgyz Presidents Discuss Kyrgyzstan’s Bid to Join Eurasia Union

    ASTANA, May 29 (RIA Novosti) – Russian President Vladimir Putin has met with his Kyrgyz counterpart, Almazbek Atambayev, to sketch out a roadmap for the Central Asian country's accession to the nascent Eurasian Economic Union (EAU), the Kremlin said Thursday.

    The meeting came on the sidelines of an ongoing summit in the Kazakh capital Astana, where leaders of Russia, Belarus and Kazakhstan signed the Eurasian Economic Union Treaty, which will enter into force on January 1, 2015.

    Armenian President Serzh Sargsyan earlier said his country was likely to sign the treaty before June 15.

    The Eurasian Economic Union (EAU) was conceived as an EU-style bloc aimed at promoting integration and free trade between its three member states, Russia, Kazakhstan and Belarus, with more countries to follow.

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    Re: Eurasian Economic Union (EAEU)

    Post  Viktor on Thu May 29, 2014 11:33 pm

    Nice  What a Face 

    Eurasian Economic Union future basis for political, military unity — Lukashenko

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    Re: Eurasian Economic Union (EAEU)

    Post  mutantsushi on Fri May 30, 2014 12:39 am

    Asf wrote:
    Why Armenia is not in the trade pact? I think i have read many times that Armenia is interested in Joining Russia trade block..
    It takes time to prerpare, laws for example
    Armenia is negotiating a bunch of exemptions, e.g. to external tariff barriers, presumably to Iran and Georgia.
    If/when those countries get closer to EAU then such exemptions would likely become semi or completely defunct, but until then Armenia needs them given it's geographic position etc.
    There is also a controversy over Nagorno Karabakh with Armenia refusing to impose customs border with NK, while apparently Kazakhstan has been pushing an Azeri-friendly/NK-hostile approach there.
    IMHO, Armenia will settle for NK being able to freely trade with itself and Russia and 3rd party countries, if Kazakhstan doesn't want to trade with NK, not the end of the world.

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    Re: Eurasian Economic Union (EAEU)

    Post  flamming_python on Fri May 30, 2014 1:52 am

    mutantsushi wrote:
    Asf wrote:
    Why Armenia is not in the trade pact? I think i have read many times that Armenia is interested in Joining Russia trade block..
    It takes time to prerpare, laws for example
    Armenia is negotiating a bunch of exemptions, e.g. to external tariff barriers, presumably to Iran and Georgia.
    If/when those countries get closer to EAU then such exemptions would likely become semi or completely defunct, but until then Armenia needs them given it's geographic position etc.
    There is also a controversy over Nagorno Karabakh with Armenia refusing to impose customs border with NK, while apparently Kazakhstan has been pushing an Azeri-friendly/NK-hostile approach there.
    IMHO, Armenia will settle for NK being able to freely trade with itself and Russia and 3rd party countries, if Kazakhstan doesn't want to trade with NK, not the end of the world.

    Have no idea what to do about the NK issue really. What an insane cluster-fuck it really is. And of course solving it would be vital if we're hoping to one day see Azerbaijan in the Eurasian Economic Union (opening the way for Iran, even Turkey, and from there - Syria).

    I see youtube comments where Armenians and Azeris insult each other non-stop, and they've been doing it for the past 25 years already, no end in sight. In a way I think that if they both forgot the Russian language, it would do a lot to help Smile

    The ideal solution would be to see it as an autonomous region of Azerbaijan with the steady return of displaced Azeri refugees and very broad cultural autonomy, like Tatarstan or Chechnya in Russia.
    But if the NK Armenians themselves are willing to die rather than to accept this then who can blame them, or force them? It's no different to the Donbass wanting to split from the Ukraine, or Pridnestrovie splitting from Moldova, etc...
    And of course Azerbaijan has no more historical right to NK (correct me if I'm wrong) than the Ukraine does to the Crimea. Armenians over the past 100 years have in fact lost more of their native land in relation to the total, than probably any other people on the planet. They've been reduced essentially from a territory in Asia minor not much smaller than the size of modern Kurdish-populated territory - to a small mountain hold-out. And of course they lost the people to go with that land, via a massive genocide attempt.
    They're not exactly in the mood to so much as give up a single further inch of land.

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    Re: Eurasian Economic Union (EAEU)

    Post  zino on Fri May 30, 2014 9:40 pm

    Viktor wrote:Nice  What a Face 

    Eurasian Economic Union future basis for political, military unity — Lukashenko

    He he, Lukas alway delivers! One day engaged in mouth kissing with Turchinov, the other one babbling of political eurasian union...I'm and old fart, I remember very well the lowering of red flag from the Kremlin...I was speechless...Bah, I want to tell that I don't think I will be able to see again a Union like that. And perhaps it's not necessary as long as Russia is in political and economical control of the near abroad. However Nazarbayev is getting old and it will not be easy to remain in control of the Kazakh territory in the future.
    South East of Ukraine is another matter, a matter of principle: fascists (and their allies) must be crushed....and annexed!
    (I'm in Hannibal mood tonight...oh well!!)

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    Re: Eurasian Economic Union (EAEU)

    Post  zg18 on Sat May 31, 2014 12:24 am

    zino wrote:However Nazarbayev is getting old and it will not be easy to remain in control of the Kazakh territory in the future.

    Meet Nazarbayev junior  Very Happy 

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Karim_Massimov

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    Re: Eurasian Economic Union (EAEU)

    Post  Viktor on Tue Jun 17, 2014 10:53 am

    Hehe ... just what I have been waiting for  thumbsup 

    Azerbaijan may become part of Eurasec or Customs Union - Russian minister

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    Re: Eurasian Economic Union (EAEU)

    Post  zino on Tue Jun 17, 2014 7:07 pm

    Viktor wrote:Hehe ... just what I have been waiting for  thumbsup 

    Azerbaijan may become part of Eurasec or Customs Union - Russian minister

    Eh, that would be the great buggered in history. "Azerbaijan, blue energy for Europe", "Azerbaijan best democracy", "TANAP our destiny", etc. etc. Here in Italy this song is running since years. Unfortunatly I don't think that it may become true, especially now.

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    Re: Eurasian Economic Union (EAEU)

    Post  Viktor on Fri Jul 18, 2014 5:28 pm

    Nice  thumbsup 

    Treaty of Accession in EAEC Armenia will be signed before the end of October

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    Re: Eurasian Economic Union (EAEU)

    Post  Viktor on Sat Jul 19, 2014 5:12 pm

    Nice  thumbsup 

    http://en.ria.ru/politics/20140719/191039085/Turkey-May-Create-Free-Trade-Zone-with-Eurasian-Customs-Union-.html

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    Re: Eurasian Economic Union (EAEU)

    Post  George1 on Mon Jul 28, 2014 3:38 am

    Eurasian Economic Union to have common currency in 5-10 years

    Documents on creation of the Eurasian Economic Union are signed on May 29, with Russian President Vladimir Putin (right), Kazakh President Nursultan Nazarbayev (center) and Belarusian President Alexander Lukashenko (left)
    Russia approves draft bill on Eurasian Economic Union Treaty ratification
    KAZAN, July 25. /ITAR-TASS/. The Eurasian Economic Union (of Russia, Belarus and Kazakhstan) will have a common currency unit in a span of five to ten years, Russia’s First Deputy Prime Minister Igor Shuvalov said on Friday.

    “The issue of a common currency will certainly be solved in five to ten years; there will be issuing centres and there will be a common currency,” he said at a meeting with participants in the international educational forum Summer Campus of the Presidential Academy. “We could have avoided this if we had not broken the rouble when the Soviet Union collapsed. We wrecked our common economic space and now, being independent states, we are creating such space again. The subject of introducing a common currency will be discussed in professional circles.”

    The annual Summer Campus of the Presidential Academy has been held in Russia’s republic of Tatarstan since 2012. Lectures and training seminars for Russian and foreign students are given by Russian and foreign experts, businessmen and top-ranking officials.

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    Re: Eurasian Economic Union (EAEU)

    Post  George1 on Sun Aug 03, 2014 10:48 pm

    Eurasian Economic Union plans to adopt common currency unit

    MOSCOW, August 03, /ITAR-TASS/. The Eurasian Economic Union of Russia, Belarus and Kazakhstan might adopt it’s a common currency unit, the Rossiiskaya Gazeta newspaper writes in its Monday issue.

    The daily cites Bembya Khulkhachiyev, director of the Eurasian Economic Union’s financial policy department, as saying that the Union was planning to make a wider use of the national currencies of the three member states with an eye to create a common payment system. If these tasks are solved successfully, the issue of a common currency unit might be raised, he said.

    Currently, the Eurasian Economic Union, according to Khulkhachiyev, makes 50% of internal settlements in roubles, 40% - in U.S. dollars, eight to nine percent - in euros. The share of other currencies barely reaches one percent.

    Processes of financial integration within the Eurasian Economic Union “are especially important now that the European Union and the United States have imposed sanctions against Russia’s financial sector - Sberbank, VTB, VEB, Gazprombank and Rosselkhozbank,” the Rossiiskaya Gazeta notes.

    The three countries signed a Eurasian Economic Union Treaty in May 2014. The Union is to supersede the Common Economic Space of Belarus, Russia and Kazakhstan on January 1, 2015. Two more countries of the Commonwealth of Independent States (CIS), Armenia and Kyrgyzstan, have announced their plans to join the Union.

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    Post  George1 on Wed Aug 13, 2014 3:08 am

    Kyrgyzstan confirms plans to join Customs Union before yearend

    SOCHI, August 11. /ITAR-TASS/. Kyrgyzstan’s President Almazbek Atambayev confirmed his country’s intention to join the Customs Union before the yearend.

    “Of course, we would like to join the Customs Union and the Eurasian Economic Union before the yearend,” he said during a meeting with Russia’s President Vladimir Putin on Monday.

    Kyrgyzstan’s leader added his country has been working actively to ensure successful result.

    “I hope everything will be fine,” the president said.

    Kyrgyzstan firmly and permanently develops relations with Russia, which the president called the country’s “strategic partner.

    The Eurasian Economic Union, which envisages free movement of goods, services, capital and workforce and is based on the Customs Union of Russia, Belarus and Kazakhstan, will become operational from January 1, 2015. The treaty on the establishment of the Eurasian Economic Union was signed by the presidents of Russia, Belarus and Kazakhstan on May 29 in Astana.

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    Re: Eurasian Economic Union (EAEU)

    Post  Viktor on Sat Aug 30, 2014 10:51 am

    Nice thumbsup

    Kyrgyz Gov’t Approves Bills to Join Customs Union of Russia, Belarus and Kazakhstan

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    Re: Eurasian Economic Union (EAEU)

    Post  Hannibal Barca on Sat Aug 30, 2014 10:54 am

    Good choice. Go with the winners lol1

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