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    Re: Eurasian Economic Union (EAEU)

    Post  Firebird on Fri Mar 14, 2014 10:36 am

    Yeah my writing was a bit sloppy there, late at night. So I basically confused people with that statement.
    I couldn't see the Eurasian Union becoming something like the US. (Certainly not past Russia, Belarus, maybe some of the Ukraine? etc)
    Something a little like the EU is much more possible. Esp if its a substantial number of states.

    However, there are numerous dark forces in Brussels who entirely want the EU to become another US. Infact, that witch Merkel is leading that.

    Ofcourse if the Eurasian Union became US Union like, the natural home would be Moscow, or I think a Russian city like Y'burg.

    But for me, an EU like Eurasian Union should have a capital in Y'burg, Samara, Moscow, Astana, or as a VERY  long shot currently, Kiev.

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    Re: Eurasian Economic Union (EAEU)

    Post  KomissarBojanchev on Fri Mar 14, 2014 2:46 pm

    Why not minsk? Its in one of the most dedicated CIS countries.
    BTW what are the prospects for uzbekistan or turkmenistan to join? I heard Turkmen is trying hard to be a sharia theocracy and has isolated itsself from the world.

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    Re: Eurasian Economic Union (EAEU)

    Post  Firebird on Mon Mar 17, 2014 8:09 pm

    KomissarBojanchev wrote:Why not minsk? Its in one of the most dedicated CIS countries.
    BTW what are the prospects for uzbekistan or turkmenistan to join? I heard Turkmen is trying hard to be a sharia theocracy and has isolated itsself from the world.

    Nothing wrong with Minsk having part of the duties. But its arguably not the current geographical epicentre of the Eurasian Union. Plus having it in Central Asia/ Yburg etc is a way of balancing interests neatly, u could argue.

    Maybe rotating locations every 5 yrs or so is the answer?

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    Post  Viktor on Wed Apr 02, 2014 3:41 pm

    Nice  thumbsup 

    Armenia hopes to sign documents on joining Customs Union in May – Foreign Ministry

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    Re: Eurasian Economic Union (EAEU)

    Post  Viktor on Thu Apr 03, 2014 12:12 pm

    Another political union is emerging and becoming reality in the East  Very Happy 

    Eurasian Economic Union Treaty Could Be Signed by May – Kazakhstan’s Foreign Minister

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    Post  flamming_python on Thu Apr 03, 2014 1:09 pm

    KomissarBojanchev wrote:Why not minsk? Its in one of the most dedicated CIS countries.
    BTW what are the prospects for uzbekistan or turkmenistan to join? I heard Turkmen is trying hard to be a sharia theocracy and has isolated itsself from the world.

    Nope it is trying hard to be North Korea with oil, gas wealth and less of a focus on the military - and largely succeeding at that.

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    Re: Eurasian Economic Union (EAEU)

    Post  flamming_python on Thu Apr 03, 2014 1:14 pm

    Firebird wrote:Maybe rotating locations every 5 yrs or so is the answer?

    Way too much hastle.

    Just have it in Astana. The Kazakhs are lobbying for it and it's basically a new city (it existed before but was a backwater) with all-new infrastructure, close to Russia and very much Russian-speaking, created as Kazakhstan's new political capital and it can use a further boost to help become the largest, richest city in Central Asia.

    Basically it's ideal in the geographic, economic, infrastructural and symbolic sense, so why not?

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    Post  George1 on Tue Apr 08, 2014 9:29 pm

    Member countries of the Customs Union to remove duties on import of transport aircraft

    Member countries of the Customs Union decided to remove duties and taxes on import of some types of transport aircraft, Prime reports with reference to the Minister of Trade of the Eurasian Economic Commission, Andrey Slepnev.

    According to him, this refers to import of two types of aircraft: 1) aircraft with a takeoff weight of 60-80 tons; 2) aircraft with a takeoff weight of over 370 tons. "For these aircraft types there will be no duties and taxes (even no VAT) in case of temporary importation for the period of five years (until December 31st 2017) or less", - he said at a press-conference held in Almaty.
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    In addition, it is planned to add a privilege for Kazakhstan related to aircraft with a takeoff weight of 60-80 tons (the privilege will expire on December 31st 2017). "This will be a privileged import without re-export. The carriers will be allowed to import the aircraft and operate it for unlimited period of time", - the Minister added.

    "At present our enterprises are unable to manufacture aircraft of the types and the state decided to meet our needs and remove duties and taxes on import of such vehicles", - Slepnev explained. "I think that this decision will be announced in a week or two", - he added.

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    Re: Eurasian Economic Union (EAEU)

    Post  mutantsushi on Wed Apr 09, 2014 6:43 am

    flamming_python wrote:Just have it in Astana.
    I agree Astana is good for many reasons, but like the EU does, not all organizational bodies need to be concentrated in the same place, they can be spread out to all members. E.g. finance/currency body makes sense to locate in Moscow because that is the only location with viable inertia as financial center. Belorussia, Armenia, Kyrgyzstan can have other smaller agencies. Astana seems reasonable for the "main" headquarters or what have you, though.

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    Post  George1 on Tue Apr 15, 2014 8:16 am

    Signatures collected in Moldova to join Customs Union

    The Socialist Party of Moldova has launched a campaign to collect signatures for the country to join the Customs Union of Russia, Belarus and Kazakhstan. According to public opinion polls, most Moldova residents prefer the Customs Union to the European Union.

    "We have launched a nation-wide campaign to collect signatures in favour of Moldova’s joining the Customs Union and then the Eurasian Union. We will keep briefing Moldovans on the benefits of such a move", the party leader, a Moldovan MP and former deputy Prime Minister, Igor Dodon, said in a statement.

    "The three countries of the Customs Union happened to be the best prepared of all CIS nations for pooling their efforts.

    These countries’ reciprocal exports have been steadily on the increase despite the crisis developments that are typical of the entire world, including the CIS. The Customs Union member-states’ mutual trade grew to 104.5 billion roubles between 2008 and 2013", he said.

    Armenia, Kyrgyzstan and Tajikistan have been energetically negotiating the joining of the Customs Union. A road map to that end for Armenia has already been adopted, so Yerevan may well sign a membership agreement in May this year. Just when Kyrgyzstan may join the Customs Union will obviously become clear by later this year.

    The next move on the path of boosting economic cooperation in the CIS area is due to become the setting up of the Eurasian Economic Union.

    Russia, Belarus and Kazakhstan will be ready with their relevant agreements by May this year. If so, the Eurasian Union will become operational on January 1st, 2015.
    Read more: http://voiceofrussia.com/news/2014_03_27/Signatures-collected-in-Moldova-to-join-Customs-Union-3795/

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    Re: Eurasian Economic Union (EAEU)

    Post  Viktor on Thu Apr 17, 2014 5:12 pm

    12 more days and Armenia joins in  thumbsup 

    Economy Minister: an agreement on joining the Customs Union will be signed on April 29

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    Re: Eurasian Economic Union (EAEU)

    Post  Viktor on Tue Apr 29, 2014 2:57 pm

    Nice  thumbsup 

    Kyrgyzstan’s accession to Customs Union is priority cooperation sphere — Medvedev

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    Re: Eurasian Economic Union (EAEU)

    Post  Viktor on Tue Apr 29, 2014 10:32 pm

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    Draft agreement on Armenia's joining the EEA prepare by June


    Putin: Treaty on the Eurasian Economic Union will be signed on May 29

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    Re: Eurasian Economic Union (EAEU)

    Post  George1 on Wed Apr 30, 2014 12:07 am

    Belarusian president calls to solve problems of future Eurasian Economic Union
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    MINSK, April 29. /ITAR-TASS/. Belarusian President Alexander Lukashenko is confident that all problems that might arise while forming the Eurasian Economic Union should be settled now, but not in ten years.

    “The Eurasian Economic Union Treaty will be signed very soon, so the question is what we will have by the time of signing,” Lukashenko said, opening a meeting of the Eurasian Economic Council on Tuesday. “Some say we should leave unsettled the problem we should have solved at previous stages.” In his words, the current agenda should include concrete landmark stages, the first of which was the formation of the full-format Customs Union. Member states of such Union, in his words, should have no restrictions in commodity movement. If any commodity restrictions, especially applicable to fuels, were preserved for a long time, it would create undesired precedents, he said.

    “Approaches stated in the process of negotiations give rise to numerous questions,” Lukashenko noted. “Proposals concerning the deadlines of the implementation of agreements in ten years, or by 2025, sound at least strange.” According to the Belarusian leader, if the sides were not ready to take corresponding measures now, this fact should be openly recognized. “There are fears that economic difficulties might arise. We are fully aware of that, but otherwise we should speak about the Eurasian Economic Union in ten years, too,” he said.

    Kyrgyzstan’s accession to Customs Union is priority cooperation sphere — Medvedev
    He noted that other aspects of the future Eurasian Economic Union were worth discussing as well. Such aspects, in his words, included cargo trucking from thirds countries. “Isn’t it absurd that Polish, Lithuanian and other freight forwarders take advantage from the integration of our countries,” he noted.

    He stressed that the future Eurasian Economic Union’s attractiveness to other countries would depend largely on its efficiency. “Our position is to admit other members in accordance with the package principle, without any special conditions or statuses,” he stressed, adding that it would be fair in respect of the founder countries.

    He said it was not right to seek integration just for the sake of taking part rather than achieving concrete results. “On January 1, 2015, we must say our citizens where we have arrived at and what our states have got,” he added

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    Re: Eurasian Economic Union (EAEU)

    Post  magnumcromagnon on Thu May 01, 2014 8:08 am

    With the creation of CSTO and now the Customs Union, could it possibly mean the that CIS project can actually rise from the dead?! Perhaps the CIS will actually have transnational political power this time around?

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    Post  Viktor on Wed May 07, 2014 6:38 pm

    Nice  thumbsup 

    Kyrgyz leader to meet Putin, discuss Customs Union prospects

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    Re: Eurasian Economic Union (EAEU)

    Post  Hannibal Barca on Wed May 07, 2014 6:42 pm

    For custom union I don't like what I see. They desperately need their first non USSR country. Else they will fail miserably or get absorbed by a broader and more ambitious coalition.

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    Re: Eurasian Economic Union (EAEU)

    Post  sepheronx on Wed May 07, 2014 6:58 pm

    Hannibal Barca wrote:For custom union I don't like what I see. They desperately need their first non USSR country. Else they will fail miserably or get absorbed by a broader and more ambitious coalition.

    New Zealand wanted to before Ukraine mess. I agree though, they need countries like Vietnam, Venezuela, Nicaragua, Bangledesh snd likes to be part of this Union in order to be a real organization. At least what it is now will strengthen Russian economic stance and sales of their products. But they need to expand.

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    Re: Eurasian Economic Union (EAEU)

    Post  flamming_python on Wed May 07, 2014 9:26 pm

    Well, we can always invite in Kyrzakhstan.

    Since it's an imaginary country that John Kerry made up I don't think it counts as ex-Soviet.

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    Post  Viktor on Mon May 12, 2014 11:43 am

    Nice  thumbsup 

    The Kyrgyz government has approved a draft "road map" entry into the Customs Union

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    Post  Hannibal Barca on Mon May 12, 2014 12:15 pm

    Better than nothing but we really need a western tout now. A Finland or an Italy or Greece or Bulgaria or Japan or Catalonia or Scotland. How difficult can it be? They fing stagnate!
    At least a beautiful pervert like Iran or N. Korea. Raise the stakes I yawn need some adrenaline.

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    Post  GarryB on Mon May 12, 2014 12:58 pm

    flamming_python wrote:Well, we can always invite in Kyrzakhstan.

    Since it's an imaginary country that John Kerry made up I don't think it counts as ex-Soviet.

    Don't be silly... what you really need is a country with warm water ports like the Ukraine...



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    Syria to join Customs Union?

    Post  Cyberspec on Wed May 14, 2014 2:08 am

    Syria wants to join the Customs Union and apparently talks are already in progress


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    Post  Viktor on Tue May 20, 2014 1:59 pm

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    President of Kyrgyzstan supported the country's accession to the Customs Union

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    Post  George1 on Fri May 23, 2014 11:48 am

    Is Putin’s Eurasian Vision Losing Steam?

    Who’s missing from the roundtable of the soon-to-be-formed Eurasian Economic Union? (Photo: Russian Presidential Press Service)
    Russian President Vladimir Putin (center) meets with the presidents of Belarus, Kyrgyzstan, Armenia, and Tajikistan in the Kremlin on May 8, 2014. With the Kazakh president missing from the gathering of potential members of the Eurasian Economic Union (EEU), regional experts speculated there might be differences of opinion about the pact. (Photo: Russian Presidential Press Service)

    Victory Day on May 9 was an occasion for Russians to indulge in patriotic flag waving in Moscow. Russian President Vladimir Putin used the previous day to muster a show of diplomatic support for his efforts to bring formerly Soviet states closer together.

    On May 8, Putin met with the presidents of Armenia, Belarus, Kyrgyzstan, and Tajikistan in the Kremlin. Following the success of the Euromaidan movement in Kyiv, Putin has made it a priority to shore up support among other formerly Soviet states for Russia’s geopolitical agenda, in particular the establishment of a regional economic union as a precursor to a wider political union of Eurasian states.

    A treaty on the formation of a Eurasian Economic Union (EEU) is due to be signed in Astana in late May, paving the way for its launch in January 2015. The body would be an outgrowth of the existing Customs Union, a free trade zone comprising Russia, Belarus, and Kazakhstan. Armenia and Kyrgyzstan are slated to join the Customs Union before the end of the year.

    As Putin warmly welcomed existing and potential union members in Moscow on May 8, ostensibly for security talks unrelated to the economic integration project, the question on the lips of Kremlin watchers was: will they or won’t they put pen to paper on the EEU founding document in less than three weeks’ time?

    The Moscow meeting came on the heels of a disastrous Customs Union summit in Minsk on April 29, where expectations of finalizing the treaty fizzled as Putin and his counterparts, Alexander Lukashenko of Belarus and Nursultan Nazarbayev of Kazakhstan, admitted that, at this late stage, they have differences over the pact’s wording. Nazarbayev’s conspicuous absence from the May 8 talks in Moscow, convened under the auspices of the Collective Security Treaty Organization, set tongues wagging about differences of opinion. Contacted by telephone by EurasiaNet.org, Nazarbayev’s office said it had no comment -- but some observers interpreted his no-show as a snub to Putin from one of his closest allies.

    As other regional leaders were cozying up to the Kremlin, Nazarbayev was having a tete-a-tete in Astana with a senior official from the United States, Moscow’s arch-rival in the geopolitical struggle over Ukraine. Deputy Secretary of State William Burns used the meeting to assure Nazarbayev of America’s “enduring” commitment to Kazakhstan and Central Asia, the State Department said, as the Ukraine crisis helps “underscore what’s at stake.” Regional analysts tend to believe that the recent signs are not indicators of insurmountable problems surrounding the EEU’s formation. “It’s hard to predict anything these days, but it seems to me that the treaty will be signed -- but in a reduced form, with most difficult issues to be resolved after signing,” Nargis Kassenova, director of the Central Asian Studies Center at Almaty’s KIMEP University, told EurasiaNet.org.

    “If it’s not signed it will be a blow to the reputation of Vladimir Putin, but also to some extent that of Nursultan Nazarbayev,” she added. “Both invested a lot of personal image capital into it.”

    Alex Nice, a regional analyst at the London-based Economist Intelligence Unit, also feels that integration plans are more or less on track. “It's possible there might be a further delay to the final signing of the document, but I'm confident that the treaty will come into force as planned next January,” he told EurasiaNet.org, pointing out that “negotiations on the EEU treaty are very far advanced.”

    “Of course, some of the more controversial provisions will be subject to lengthy transition periods,” Nice added.

    The chances of the agreement being signed on time are “quite high,” concurred regional security expert Aida Abzhaparova of the University of the West of England. Nazarbayev is a cheerleader for integration, she pointed out, and signing the treaty in Astana would have huge “symbolism” for him: Nazarbayev first proposed the notion of a Eurasian union long before Putin took it up, and sees himself as “the father of the idea.”

    Speculation that the union might be heading off the rails was fueled by reports on May 7 that Kyrgyzstan’s prime minister, Joomart Otorbayev, wished to postpone membership for a year -- but his spokeswoman denied the claim. Otorbayev had, on the contrary, said Kyrgyzstan would complete the legislative groundwork to join by the end of the year, Gulnura Toraliyeva told EurasiaNet.org by telephone.

    Armenia is expected to join sooner – but is currently bogged down trying to negotiate some 900 exemptions to the union’s single customs tariff.

    Analysts believe that incorporating the weaker economies of Armenia and Kyrgyzstan into the union is a sticking point in the treaty negotiations; Kazakhstan and Belarus are believed to be wary of the economic implications amid Russian efforts to expand its geopolitical clout.

    Perhaps the biggest threat to the EEU’s success is Russia’s actions in Ukraine, suggests Kassenova. “The Ukraine crisis undermined Russian policy in the post-Soviet space,” Kassenova said. “Now it’s seen as a bully without any respect for the sovereignty of its neighbors. Plus, the crisis undermined the economy of Russia and made it less capable of serving as the locomotive of integration.”

    “On the one hand, the crisis should give more bargaining power to Belarus, Kazakhstan, and Kyrgyzstan,” she continued. “On the other, the overall destiny of the project is in doubt: will Russia have the will and resources to support and sponsor it further?”

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