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    GarryB

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    Re: How PAK-FA would counter F-22 in future aerial warfare

    Post  GarryB on Sat May 27, 2017 10:32 am

    The side panel arrays are full standard X band AESA radars and can do more than just listen for enemy radar.

    It can do pretty much anything the front facing X band radar can do...

    The fact that they are angled slightly down they would be useful as side looking radar for flying down a border and looking inside the enemy territory but Assuming 120 degree angle coverage they should allow monitoring of an attack without having to continue closing with the target.


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    Re: How PAK-FA would counter F-22 in future aerial warfare

    Post  Rmf on Sat May 27, 2017 10:57 pm

    GarryB wrote:PAK FA will have 5 large AESA radars in its front (nose and wings) which should provide enough radar energy to burn the little brain out of any ARH missile.

    DIRCMs should deal with all optically guided missiles like ASRAAM and AIM-9X etc.

    This suggests it will turn into a gun fight.

    Who was saying that manouverability wont be important... ohh that is right... the people with the less manouverable aircraft F-35 and F-22...

    Why don't I believe them?

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    t-50 has 6 radars !!, 3 in nose , 2 in levcons ,1 in rear tail.
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    Re: How PAK-FA would counter F-22 in future aerial warfare

    Post  Rmf on Sat May 27, 2017 10:59 pm

    GarryB wrote:The side panel arrays are full standard X band AESA radars and can do more than just listen for enemy radar.

    It can do pretty much anything the front facing X band radar can do...

    The fact that they are angled slightly down they would be useful as side looking radar for flying down a border and looking inside the enemy territory but Assuming 120 degree angle coverage they should allow monitoring of an attack without having to continue closing with the target.
    yes side radars and rear one  (they are same size) have 40% range of main radar , main radar has 400km range on 3 m2, so they will be able to launch r-77 to its full range easy -160-km.
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    Re: How PAK-FA would counter F-22 in future aerial warfare

    Post  Rmf on Sat May 27, 2017 11:13 pm

    Big_Gazza wrote:
    moskit wrote:F-22 has an edge over pak fa in beam and aft sector RCS .The frontal vlo performance is equally great for both these majestic aircrafts . It was supposed that sensor fusion would be an arena where Sukhoi would find it rather difficult to come up with a relavant mature solution. With the introduction of IMA BK mission computer and fire control complex developed in house, the critics may have been silenced. There is still some time to go. And the rear fuselage shaping will be refined, those cylindrical unstealthy nacelles will give way to faceted ones once Izdeliye 30 appears. then the rear and beam signatures will be as good as the F-35 if not better. Hope the prototypes coming out would carry these features.. expecting replays dear admins,, russia

    Does the F-35 have a facetted engine nacelle?  Does it has a concealed engine nozzle ala F-22?  Nope, yet both of these ommissions are routinely held up as "weaknesses" in the "non-stealthy" T-50 design.....

    Don't bother with the fuktardishness of HATOstani zealots.  They will inflate F-22/35 until they are godlike machines, while sledging the T-50 as a "primitive failure".....  stupid is as stupid does...
    there is ways to keep stealth approach https://public.bn1303.livefilestore.com/y3pMEglM8eNbbjhMJYiNOHR4zp3UgdaIh9THwXFu3ptbJ6sVJ0jOyQHNfLLX9daVm6-QkMzjtGduaQ0SFJyosZc9Y4-fV0FLc8hdtNifEw09go/F-22A%2015%20Intake.jpg?psid=1&rdrts=115256625


    ,sides of  intakes can be covered in very small holes like on f-117 which wont let radar go trough , you can treat ramps ,bleed air  ,ducts same way.
    rear nozzle there will be another layer of petals above those heat resistant ones, they will be able to curve as nozzle twists , maybe look similar to pangolin
    http://r.ddmcdn.com/s_f/o_1/APL/uploads/2015/11/pangolin-ARTICLE-PAGE.jpg
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    Re: How PAK-FA would counter F-22 in future aerial warfare

    Post  Singular_Transform on Sat May 27, 2017 11:30 pm

    GarryB wrote:The side panel arrays are full standard X band AESA radars and can do more than just listen for enemy radar.

    It can do pretty much anything the front facing X band radar can do...

    The fact that they are angled slightly down they would be useful as side looking radar for flying down a border and looking inside the enemy territory but Assuming 120 degree angle coverage they should allow monitoring of an attack without having to continue closing with the target.

    They are small for anz usefull purposes than missile warning and observations.

    Oh, they can be used as communication channel as well.
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    Re: How PAK-FA would counter F-22 in future aerial warfare

    Post  GarryB on Mon May 29, 2017 6:46 am

    Oh, they can be used as communication channel as well.

    They are full AESA radars... you could use them for ground mapping on either side of the aircraft with the lower elements and scanning or listening for emissions from aircraft with the middle and upper elements... you could use them to direct a radar beam of high intensity at an incoming radar guided missile like an AMRAAM to damage the seeker... or just listen to plot out enemy ground radar installations.

    The shoulder mounted L band radar antenna could be used to scan for stealthy targets or to listen for communications in the link12 datalink used by NATO.

    It could even detect course corrections sent to an AMRAAM missile in flight by the aircraft that launched it...


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