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    Re: Russian Τank Βiathlon

    Post  AlfaT8 on Mon Aug 19, 2013 11:32 pm

    NationalRus wrote:yeah a nice friendly competion to laugh and have a good time, i give you that, yes...

    but as i got it they wanted to let tanks compete against eachother, and if they cant get some foreing countrys with some foreing tanks of same classes to compete and have to drive with the same machines agains eachother then it is kind of a joke, but till that... then lets pop the beer get out the chips Neutral 
    Gonna have to agree with TR1 i just cant see it as a joke, yet at the same time i gotta agree with you that there needs to be more MBT from different countries, like a sort of RED FLAG for tanks. thumbsup 

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    Re: Russian Τank Βiathlon

    Post  Mindstorm on Tue Aug 20, 2013 11:01 am

    NationalRus wrote:if they cant get some foreing countrys with some foreing tanks of same classes to compete and have to drive with the same machines agains eachother then it is kind of a joke, but till that... then lets pop the beer get out the chips Neutral
    May be you have not noticed that the tank biathlon competition has ALREADY ASSURED foreign participation on theirs own MBTs for the competition the next year.

    Moreover you have managed to not even notice that just in the competition of the last week was ALREADY PRESENT REPRESENTING OFFICIALS of some the NATO nations expected to take part to the competition next year ,precisely in the person of US Army Colonel R. Taft Blackburn and German Army Brigadier General Reiner Schwalb, so to take precise notices (video included) of all the competition's elements, so to allow perfect training for the domestic crew and theirs MBT  Very Happy 


    You can see and hear them at 4:01 and 4:15 of this video on the last day of the 2013 competition :


    http://tvzvezda.ru/news/forces/content/201308171354-eq6x.htm


    Now all what remain to see is only with what MBT NATO's crews will come in 2014 (Brigadier General Reiner Schwalb ,after seeing the competition of the last week with T-72B, has already declared that it will request German MoD to let German crew to participate with latest Army version of Leopard 2  Wink )....in facts the rain of critics on US Defense Secretary's Chuck Hagel for its "reflective" acceptance of the Russian invitation to the 2014 competition is very strange.

    At the end of day ,in facts, with theirs........supposed........ superior FCS, stabilization, suspension, ballistic computer, sight etc.. should be a true joke for NATO MBTs crew to easily humiliate the "poorly designed", "technologically inferior", "cramped" Russian MBTs ,manned by "inferiorly trained" eastern tank's crew Laughing Laughing .

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    Re: Russian Τank Βiathlon

    Post  NationalRus on Tue Aug 20, 2013 11:48 am

    then till next year or were this colonels and generals running against the tanks

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    Re: Russian Τank Βiathlon

    Post  TheArmenian on Tue Aug 20, 2013 11:50 am

    I look forward to see next years Tank Biathlon with as many foreign participants as possible.
    But please paint the tanks in different colors, the whole thing looks a bit like a kindergarden....or worse, a bit too gay!

     Darker colors please.

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    Re: Russian Τank Βiathlon

    Post  Mindstorm on Tue Aug 20, 2013 1:48 pm



    TheArmenian wrote:I look forward to see next years Tank Biathlon with as many foreign participants as possible.

    Yes, i agree.

    Naturally is necessary to maintain crossed the fingers about abrupt "U-turns" in particular by part of US delegation ; as already mentioned the US Secretary of Defense Chuck Hagel's acceptance of the invitation has been heavily attacked by US media and military analysts over the risk to crumble the image of "high tech", "superior design" and "superior crew training" so attentively and slowly constructed in all those years in the public imaginary after Gulf War and.......just "vis-a vis" against the Russians Cool 

    To be honest, the latest declarations by part of US Army Col. R. Taft Blackburn don't appear encouraging..........



    Shoigu previously claimed that US Secretary of Defense Chuck Hagel had approved US participation in 2014, but Colonel R. Taft Blackburn, US Army Attaché in Russia, said this was not the case.

    “It is an interesting idea, but there are many issues at stake,” was all that Blackburn said when asked by RIA Novosti whether the Pentagon is considering the risk that Russia could interpret US unwillingness to take part as weakness.

    Blackburn then beat a hasty retreat into the VIP stand, as an Armenian tank thundered past.


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    Re: Russian Τank Βiathlon

    Post  Asf on Thu Jun 26, 2014 8:25 am

    Tank biathlon photos

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    Re: Russian Τank Βiathlon

    Post  VladimirSahin on Fri Aug 01, 2014 8:19 pm

    News guys! Tank Biathlon will have 12 countries taking place in it these are the countries: Armenia, Belarus, Venezuela, India, Kazakhstan, Kyrgyzstan, China, Kuwait, Mongolia, Serbia and Russia.  All participants excluding China will be using T-72B, China will be using the T-96A.  I decided to translate this but if you want to read the whole thing (its in Russian) here you go Tank Biathlon

    I cant wait to see who the winner will be (RUSSIA WILL WIN  russia )

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    Tank Biathlon

    Post  Werewolf on Mon Aug 04, 2014 1:46 pm

    More than 2 hours video of the Tank Biathlon.


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    Tank biathlon - 2014

    Post  Viktor on Wed Aug 06, 2014 8:49 pm

    "Tank biathlon 2014" - Russia leads in the individual race

    T-72B3




    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D_PPhbDcjGk

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-WBpFH7MBzw





    Current position

    1st Russia, 26 minutes and 39 seconds

    2nd Armenia, 28 minutes and 58 seconds

    3rd Kazakhstan, 29 minutes 53 seconds

    4th Serbia

    5th Belarus

    6th Kyrgyzstan

    7th India

    8th China

    9th Mongolia

    10th Kuwait

    11th Angola

    12nd Venezuela


    It began international competition "tank Biathlon 2014"


     Very Happy 


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    Re: Russian Τank Βiathlon

    Post  Werewolf on Wed Aug 06, 2014 8:59 pm

    Guys let us bet on who will be the top 5 of the first Tank Biathlon.

    What are your guesses.


    1st Russia

    2nd Kazakhstan

    3rd China

    4th Belarus

    5th India

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    Re: Russian Τank Βiathlon

    Post  arpakola on Mon Aug 11, 2014 2:17 pm



    http://charly015.blogspot.gr/2014/08/biathlon-2014-resultados-del-6-de-agosto.html

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    Re: Russian Τank Βiathlon

    Post  Austin on Mon Aug 18, 2014 5:43 am

    Any update in English on who scored overall in Tank Baithlon ? Any news update ?

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    Re: Russian Τank Βiathlon

    Post  Werewolf on Mon Aug 18, 2014 6:28 am

    Final Results

    Russia - 1 h 15 min 13 sec.
    Armenia - 1 h 20 min 03 sec.
    China - 1 h 30 min 56 sec.
    Kazachstan - 1 h 34 min 11 sec.

    First place (russia) recieved gold Tank Biathlon cup.
    Armenia recieved a brandnew T-90 tank as price.
    Tank crew for 1st, 2nd and 3rd places have recieved Gold medals.

    The leading person of each participating tank crew will recieve UAZ Patriot from UVZ company.


    http://pro-tank.ru/blog/1360-world-cup-winners-tank-biathlon-2014



    Winners of tank biathlon will given gold plated tank miniature of T-72B for tank biathlon and for APC/IFV they will recieve BMP-2 miniature.

    http://rt.com/news/169084-tank-biathlon-winners-gold/




    Also this are the polygons.



    2nd stage ground



    3rd stage was for testing crew without tanks on a parkour.

    http://pro-tank.ru/blog/1358-tank-biathlon-2014-sports






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    Re: Russian Τank Βiathlon

    Post  Austin on Mon Aug 18, 2014 6:31 am

    How did India fared ?

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    Re: Russian Τank Βiathlon

    Post  Werewolf on Mon Aug 18, 2014 6:44 am

    Austin wrote:How did India fared ?

    When i am not wrong, 4th Belarus, 5th India, 6th Kyrgyzia and not sure about rest didn't count all points.

    PS: Couldn't find english site.

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    Re: Russian Τank Βiathlon

    Post  Austin on Mon Aug 18, 2014 7:02 am

    Ok Thanks for the Update.

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    Re: Russian Τank Βiathlon

    Post  cracker on Thu Sep 04, 2014 2:00 am

    To be clear:

    Russia used a T-72B3, and all others bog standard T-72B obr 1988/89 ?

    and, china used a domestic Type 96A?

    How does the 96A compare with the T-72B3, or even T-90A? It seems to be quite a powerful tank and very mobile... Maybe it just *seems* as often with chinese stuff.

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    Re: Russian Τank Βiathlon

    Post  Werewolf on Thu Sep 04, 2014 3:20 am

    cracker wrote:To be clear:

    Russia used a T-72B3, and all others bog standard T-72B obr 1988/89 ?

    and, china used a domestic Type 96A?

    How does the 96A compare with the T-72B3, or even T-90A? It seems to be quite a powerful tank and very mobile... Maybe it just *seems* as often with chinese stuff.

    They used models of T-72 those countries had, if they had some better modernized they could bring them like China did.

    No expert on chinese tanks, actually pretty limited knowledge maybe someone else here has some insight of chinese military issues.

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    Re: Russian Τank Βiathlon

    Post  magnumcromagnon on Thu Sep 04, 2014 3:31 am

    Werewolf wrote:
    cracker wrote:To be clear:

    Russia used a T-72B3, and all others bog standard T-72B obr 1988/89 ?

    and, china used a domestic Type 96A?

    How does the 96A compare with the T-72B3, or even T-90A? It seems to be quite a powerful tank and very mobile... Maybe it just *seems* as often with chinese stuff.

    They used models of T-72 those countries had, if they had some better modernized they could bring them like China did.

    No expert on chinese tanks, actually pretty limited knowledge maybe someone else here has some insight of chinese military issues.

    From what I heard the Chinese Type 96A cross-country capability was less than that of the Russian T-72, but the Type 96A outscored every tank in accuracy and did not miss one shot on the first day.

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    Re: Russian Τank Βiathlon

    Post  Mike E on Thu Sep 04, 2014 3:35 am

    Not a surprise considering it is loosely based on a 40's tank (T-55).

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    Re: Russian Τank Βiathlon

    Post  higurashihougi on Thu Sep 04, 2014 9:17 am

    Somehow Beijing are dissatisfied with the result and they are accusing Russia of being unequal and unfair...

    I myself do not have faith in Chinese weapons, although I have to admit that Beijing is the master of copying.

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    Re: Russian Τank Βiathlon

    Post  volna on Thu Sep 04, 2014 11:55 am

    magnumcromagnon wrote:


    From what I heard the Chinese Type 96A cross-country capability was less than that of the Russian T-72, but the Type 96A outscored every tank in accuracy and did not miss one shot on the first day.
    Do you know why?
    Chinese shot APFSDS, all other countries shot HEAT, it's not a problem to hit target with faster round like APFSDS, but harder with slow HEAT.

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    Re: Russian Τank Βiathlon

    Post  Werewolf on Thu Sep 04, 2014 3:27 pm

    magnumcromagnon wrote:
    From what I heard the Chinese Type 96A cross-country capability was less than that of the Russian T-72, but the Type 96A outscored every tank in accuracy and did not miss one shot on the first day.

    Yes the chinese Type-96A and crew were pretty good in shooting.

    Do you know why?
    Chinese shot APFSDS, all other countries shot HEAT, it's not a problem to hit target with faster round like APFSDS, but harder with slow HEAT.

    Not sure if that is true, but i thought all of them were shooting APFSDS training rounds. Do you have a source?

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    Re: Russian Τank Βiathlon

    Post  cracker on Fri Sep 05, 2014 4:38 pm

    I looked videos, it seems russian tank fired a HEAT indeed, because it's rather slow and made an explosion on the target... But, might as well be training APDS hitting soil.

    And, I can't post links (i'm new member), but if you write in youtube "ztz 96 vs T-72" you will find parts of the show, and clearly show the T-72 nearly stops to shoot, while the 96 goes fast (~30km/h) and hit all targets... Maybe it's not a joke, type 96 has a damn good fire control system and better than even T-72B3

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    Re: Russian Τank Βiathlon

    Post  Werewolf on Fri Sep 05, 2014 5:58 pm

    cracker wrote:I looked videos, it seems russian tank fired a HEAT indeed, because it's rather slow and made an explosion on the target... But, might as well be training APDS hitting soil.

    And, I can't post links (i'm new member), but if you write in youtube "ztz 96 vs T-72" you will find parts of the show, and clearly show the T-72 nearly stops to shoot, while the 96 goes fast (~30km/h) and hit all targets... Maybe it's not a joke, type 96 has a damn good fire control system and better than even T-72B3

    FCS is not everything the crew and their experience and skill count also.

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