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    Re: U.S. MIC Issues

    Post  Viktor on Mon Apr 28, 2014 3:55 am

    From 131 to just 45 in two quick moves

    Italy halved the purchase order fighter F-35 "Lightning 2"

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    Post  Hannibal Barca on Mon Apr 28, 2014 9:50 am

    F35 serves more like a reversed Marshal plan than actual fighter program

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    Post  Viktor on Sat May 17, 2014 2:42 pm

    No money for HAARP

    It's Not a "Military Death Beam" and It's Not Getting Any More Federal Funding

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    Post  Viktor on Mon Jun 16, 2014 4:04 pm

    Nice  thumbsup 

    The U.S. Congress finally "killed" A-10

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    Post  Hannibal Barca on Mon Jun 16, 2014 4:29 pm

    This retards just killed their best plane. Now there is no turning back !


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    Post  Viktor on Mon Jun 16, 2014 4:37 pm

    And cheapest plane also Very Happy

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    Post  Werewolf on Mon Jun 16, 2014 5:35 pm

    If they would do this exact stupid policy with their political influence of their NATO vassals and destroy all ties within a blink to their slave countries and set them free due stupidity, that would be amazing.

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    Post  Viktor on Tue Jun 17, 2014 4:11 pm

    Nice debt  thumbsup  Very Happy 

    Total US debt soars to nearly $60 trn, foreshadows new recession

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    Post  Viktor on Mon Jun 23, 2014 11:42 am

    Against an imaginary target but still ...

    Pentagon: a new test of the interceptor missile defense system the United States is successful

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    Post  Viktor on Wed Sep 24, 2014 8:11 pm

    Nice respekt

    Iraq refused to buy American attack helicopters AH-64E Apache

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    Post  Mike E on Wed Sep 24, 2014 9:27 pm

    Viktor wrote:Nice   respekt

    Iraq refused to buy American attack helicopters AH-64E Apache
    Instead they've been buying Russian ones...  lol1 Better yet, they are buying Russian helicopters with American money!


     - Why is this thread called "reducing the number of carriers" when it contains mostly negative US MIC news? Maybe it could be renamed the "U.S. MIC Issues" thread or something closer to that...

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    Post  TR1 on Wed Sep 24, 2014 9:45 pm

    Why American money?

    They have huge oil revenues, and that is what they find their purchases with.

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    Post  Werewolf on Wed Sep 24, 2014 9:52 pm

    Mike E wrote:
    Viktor wrote:Nice   respekt

    Iraq refused to buy American attack helicopters AH-64E Apache
    Instead they've been buying Russian ones...  lol1 Better yet, they are buying Russian helicopters with American money!


     - Why is this thread called "reducing the number of carriers" when it contains mostly negative US MIC news? Maybe it could be renamed the "U.S. MIC Issues" thread or something closer to that...

    They obviously rejected it since depending on US military hardware puts them in a very bad situation as soon the US stops selling spare parts it means death to the hardware like Iranians F-14 which are not only obsolete but also in no good shape due the political games US is playing.

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    Post  Mike E on Wed Sep 24, 2014 10:16 pm

    TR1 wrote:Why American money?

    They have huge oil revenues, and that is what they find their purchases with.
    Ever hear of foreign aid? The US gives them quite a bit of it... That being said, they do acquire wealth in many different ways.

    Werewolf wrote:They obviously rejected it since depending on US military hardware puts them in a very bad situation as soon the US stops selling spare parts it means death to the hardware like Iranians F-14 which are not only obsolete but also in no good shape due the political games US is playing.
    That too... The added pressure of "having to do what they say" isn't exactly beneficial for a country like Iraq.

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    Post  TR1 on Wed Sep 24, 2014 10:19 pm

    So you got proof that American foreighn aid is being used to fund the Russian arms purchases?

    Proof?

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    Post  Mike E on Wed Sep 24, 2014 10:48 pm

    TR1 wrote:So you got proof that American foreighn aid is being used to fund the Russian arms purchases?

    Proof?
    Really TR1? That money goes to the Iraqi government, who in turn spends a whopping 8% of their GDP on weapons... There is a large chance, that large amounts of that aid ends off getting used for the purchase of Russian equipment... Coming from the person that believes a crappy one megapixel picture is proof that a -82 is on Ukraine, you should have no trouble believing this...

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    Post  higurashihougi on Thu Sep 25, 2014 5:39 am

    Not a huge surprise for me. Not long ago, the U.S. goverment insisted on buying Russian Mil transporter for equipping Afghanistan troops, disregard of the sanction and the pressure from anti-Russia shits in the Congress.

    One reason is that Iraq and Afganistan have gotten used to the Soviet/Russia weapon system and it is more convenient for them to continuing the Russian lines. Another reason is that the tasks given (against the rebels) do not need high-tech and expensive devices, but easy-to-use, durable, and cost-effective machines which Russia is very good at.

    But the most important factor is that, all this events testify the usefulness, capability and effectiveness of Russian weapons. russia russia russia

    Of course the anti-Russia faction is still trying to say this and that about Russian weapons in Iraq... but, fact is fact. Laughing Laughing

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    Post  TR1 on Thu Sep 25, 2014 5:47 am

    Mike E wrote:
    TR1 wrote:So you got proof that American foreighn aid is being used to fund the Russian arms purchases?

    Proof?
    Really TR1? That money goes to the Iraqi government, who in turn spends a whopping 8% of their GDP on weapons... There is a large chance, that large amounts of that aid ends off getting used for the purchase of Russian equipment... Coming from the person that believes a crappy one megapixel picture is proof that a -82 is on Ukraine, you should have no trouble believing this...

    Or maybe the US is not a bunch of morons, and have oversight and stipulation on how the money is spent.

    So far I see no proof it is American money being used to purchase Russian arms. I am not buying the assumption.

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    Post  GarryB on Thu Sep 25, 2014 1:02 pm

    Against an imaginary target but still ...

    Pentagon: a new test of the interceptor missile defense system the United States is successful

    Wow, that is amazing... did you know that 95% of tests against imaginary targets fail?

    33% of the time they succeed and 75% of the time the results just don't add up.. Sad

    - Why is this thread called "reducing the number of carriers" when it contains mostly negative US MIC news? Maybe it could be renamed the "U.S. MIC Issues" thread or something closer to that...

    Good call, will change that now.

    Regarding the rest of the discussion can I say I actually supported India going for the AH-64 as it was a more mature system with operational experience.

    Can I say now that this purchase and others including potentially to Egypt and Algeria and now Iraq... perhaps even Syria seems to bode well for the aircraft and its future potential development and upgrade path.

    Would like to see them buying some Su-25SMs as well.


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    Post  GarryB on Thu Sep 25, 2014 1:11 pm

    In addition to the title change I had a wee think about where it fits best... US MIC so it is US and military/defence/strategic related so I have put it here...


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    Post  Mike E on Thu Sep 25, 2014 9:20 pm

    TR1 wrote:
    Mike E wrote:
    TR1 wrote:So you got proof that American foreighn aid is being used to fund the Russian arms purchases?

    Proof?
    Really TR1? That money goes to the Iraqi government, who in turn spends a whopping 8% of their GDP on weapons... There is a large chance, that large amounts of that aid ends off getting used for the purchase of Russian equipment... Coming from the person that believes a crappy one megapixel picture is proof that a -82 is on Ukraine, you should have no trouble believing this...

    Or maybe the US is not a bunch of morons, and have oversight and stipulation on how the money is spent.

    So far I see no proof it is American money being used to purchase Russian arms. I am not buying the assumption.

    Who is the one that lives in the US again? Our politicians and executives within the MIC are professionals at wasting money, and they do it mostly for their own benefit... (They are a bunch of morons, and don't have oversight and stipulation on how money is spent... - Not messing with you, it is the truth!)

    So far I see no evidence suggesting otherwise... Like I said, the US gives aid to the Iraqi government, who spends it on a bunch of things (like every other government) including weapons... That money, if even a minuscule amount, has probably payed or helped payed for Russian weapons. - It wouldn't be a surprised for me and (probably) many others.

     - Thanks GarryB, that is much better!  Very Happy

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    Post  Mike E on Wed Oct 08, 2014 10:41 pm

    Uh oh! Another F-15 crash!

    http://foxtrotalpha.jalopnik.com/an-american-f-15-just-crashed-in-england-1643832385/1643912958/+travis

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    Post  Hannibal Barca on Thu Oct 09, 2014 3:46 am

    I start to suspect that this is bad servicing due to lack of funds.

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    Post  Mike E on Thu Oct 09, 2014 3:53 am

    Hannibal Barca wrote:I start to suspect that this is bad servicing due to lack of funds.
    The irony! 

    Anyway, that could be it, that or just some bad piloting...

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    Post  higurashihougi on Thu Oct 09, 2014 10:44 am

    Mike E wrote:
    Hannibal Barca wrote:I start to suspect that this is bad servicing due to lack of funds.
    The irony! 

    Anyway, that could be it, that or just some bad piloting...

    It is said that a number of recent accidents in the U.S. was caused due to the mistakes of the pilots. And as far as I know, some opinions claimed that the training and number of flying for U.S. pilots was not sufficient or was decreasing.

    Therefore I stills supects it have something to do with budget cutting.

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