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    Viktor

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    U.S. MIC Issues

    Post  Viktor on Mon Aug 05, 2013 11:14 am

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    Post  NationalRus on Mon Aug 05, 2013 12:15 pm

    a wise decision, if we had god damn 11 AC'S in the russian navy i would be the first one to demand a cut
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    Post  GarryB on Tue Aug 06, 2013 11:26 am

    That is USN carriers only... it does not include the carriers the Marine Corps operate which are more like the carriers the rest of the world uses.


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    Post  Flyingdutchman on Thu Oct 17, 2013 8:34 pm

    Believe me the US wont reduce the number of carriers they are too important!
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    Post  GarryB on Fri Oct 18, 2013 10:00 am

    When times are tough it is much easier to withdraw a carrier group and save a lot of money because you are actually reducing the force size by a large amount and also withdrawing an entire carrier battle group and all its support infrastructure.

    Might come as a shock but the US really doesn't need 13 carrier groups... there are lots of oceans they really don't need a constant presence in, or could achieve the presence they need with a few SSNs with land attack cruise missiles on board.

    Having said that they wont get rid of all their carriers.... they are simply too useful.


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    Post  Flyingdutchman on Sun Oct 20, 2013 4:21 pm

    GarryB wrote:When times are tough it is much easier to withdraw a carrier group and save a lot of money because you are actually reducing the force size by a large amount and also withdrawing an entire carrier battle group and all its support infrastructure.

    Might come as a shock but the US really doesn't need 13 carrier groups... there are lots of oceans they really don't need a constant presence in, or could achieve the presence they need with a few SSNs with land attack cruise missiles on board.

    Having said that they wont get rid of all their carriers.... they are simply too useful.
    The us now has 10 carrier battle groups and with the gerald r ford coming soon they would have 11 carrier battle groups, and maintain 11 from now one, when the kennedy joins in 2022 the nimitz will be retired.

    And if they put away some carriers the other ships belonging to the carrier battle group: arleigh burkes, ticonderogas, subs etc. Will remain in service.
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    Post  GarryB on Mon Oct 21, 2013 10:07 am

    They wont save much money if they only retire individual carriers and not the carrier group that goes with it.

    Makes more sense to withdraw the carrier and all the support vessels in that carrier group with most mothballed but some transferred if they are still new ships.


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    U.S. reduces number of aircraft carriers

    Post  Chainsaw Eddie on Wed Jan 29, 2014 3:55 am

    As a U.S. taxpayer I am delighted to see the number of carrier battle groups reduced from 11 to 8 or 9. Even that number is too high! Seven would be more like it. Those carrier battle groups defend nations that are perfectly capable of defending themselves or are at least wealthy enough to re-imburse the U.S. for it's costs. The U.S. does not face a major conventionally armed threat from any nation at present. The major threat to the U.S. and to many other nations is terrorism. A carrier battle group is a poor tool for that job. Indeed, the U.S. Navy has contributed least in the 13 years of war that has involved U.S. forces.  The reduction in force of the U.S. Navy and Air Force are overdue.
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    Post  Werewolf on Wed Jan 29, 2014 10:10 am

    The major threat to the U.S. and to many other nations is terrorism. wrote:

    The major threat to US and its citizens is the US government which supports terrorists all over the world and creating problems and atrocities in different countries just because their impotent to attack certain countries on them own.

    Don't fix the symptoms, fix the source.
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    Post  Viktor on Thu Feb 06, 2014 3:02 am

    This is not much money that all the fuss is about as opposed to all the items that will be affected

    Cuts in US defense spending force hard strategic choices
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    Post  Hannibal Barca on Thu Feb 06, 2014 10:23 am

    Viktor wrote:This is not much money that all the fuss is about as opposed to all the items that will be affected

    Cuts in US defense spending force hard strategic choices



    Obviously the situation is much worse than what let the outsiders sniff.
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    Post  Viktor on Wed Feb 19, 2014 12:49 pm

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    Post  magnumcromagnon on Wed Feb 19, 2014 6:51 pm

    Viktor wrote:No money ....

    The End of the New ICBM

    Well that guarantees that the Pentagon's ICBM collection will always be several generations behind the Russian arsenal. I made the conclusion that Russian ICBM's were at least 3 generations ahead of the U.S. equivalent, with "Avant-garde" it will be at least 4 generations ahead, and when all the kinks are fixed with "Bulava" the Russian arsenal may very well be 5 generations ahead of American analogues.
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    Post  Viktor on Thu Apr 10, 2014 3:19 am

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    Post  Werewolf on Thu Apr 10, 2014 3:38 am

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    Post  collegeboy16 on Thu Apr 10, 2014 9:21 am

    what a fcking waste... send the m0r0n to gitmo.
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    Post  TR1 on Thu Apr 10, 2014 9:22 am

    Nothing funny about it, that kind of stupidity can potentially cause serious ecological harm.

    Plus, of all people we shouldn't be laughing at it.
    How many fires break out at Russian submarine yards? Too damn many.
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    Post  Viktor on Fri Apr 18, 2014 10:06 am

    First the GLONASS stations and now this ?

    Pentagon Moves to Block Russian Spy Plane in American Skies
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    Post  Viktor on Wed Apr 23, 2014 8:13 pm

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    Post  nemrod on Wed Apr 23, 2014 9:36 pm


    Thx Vik.
    Unfortunetly, I could not access to this interresting news. If U can, please paste the article, or give us a summary what about, which program should be cut.


    Let's hope these cuts concerns mostly their filthy F-22, and F-35. Iam concerned by each bad news concerning US war machine.
    It is quite a good news.
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    Post  Viktor on Wed Apr 23, 2014 9:40 pm

    Try now - I think there where some problems with the page as I was also unable to open it until now

    http://vpk-news.ru/news/20063
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    Post  nemrod on Wed Apr 23, 2014 10:21 pm

    Viktor wrote:Try now - I think there where some problems with the page as I was also unable to open it until now

    http://vpk-news.ru/news/20063

    Thx it is OK now.
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    Post  Werewolf on Thu Apr 24, 2014 2:41 am

    nemrod wrote:

    Thx Vik.
    Unfortunetly, I could not access to this interresting news. If U can, please paste the article, or give us a summary what about, which program should be cut.


    Let's hope these cuts concerns mostly their filthy F-22, and F-35. Iam concerned by each bad news concerning US war machine.
    It is quite a good news.
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    I hope not, let them waste money on shit Lockheed Martin products that will only cripple their military and economy.
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    Post  collegeboy16 on Thu Apr 24, 2014 10:02 am

    LCS is hungry...
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