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    nomadski

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    Re: Russia - USA Relations

    Post  nomadski on Sun Jul 02, 2017 11:11 pm


    .....Was it the Spartans that had three kings ? Or the Greeks that had many gods . I remember reading that if there had been .....more than one god in the heavens then things would not have worked out on Earth . But there may be an advantage in .....having two or more gods . For one , they have less to do . But what about Donald Trump ? Can you imagine him with an .....angry face ? While wrestling with CNN in a comic book ? Can we have two foreign secretary ? Like good cop , bad cop ? .....Good cop can shake Donald Trump hand with smile . Bad cop can give a stern look at general mattis . Both are needed . .....How about assistant foreign secretary ? A constant hard line bad cop ? ........scary look on Lavrof ....
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    Post  miketheterrible on Fri Jul 28, 2017 6:19 am

    https://sputniknews.com/russia/201707271055931578-russia-pranksters-perry/?utm_referrer=https%3A%2F%2Fzen.yandex.com

    These guys are awesome.

    Pranking the energy minister in US proving that he is an idiot.

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    Re: Russia - USA Relations

    Post  ATLASCUB on Fri Jul 28, 2017 10:04 pm

    It begins. Russia expels diplomats in Moscow, seizes property.

    Empires either collapse or subjugate. Happens every single time. There is no in-between. Certainly not for the U.S with it's "18 trillion" economy.

    The new cold war will result in either the break-up of new Russia or the collapse of the U.S, perhaps even a breakup/civil war if the petro dollar bubble bursts. Incomes are tight as it's and the safety net is a joke - specially healthcare. New ride for the next 10-30 years.
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    Post  miketheterrible on Sat Jul 29, 2017 1:26 am

    ATLASCUB wrote:It begins. Russia expels diplomats in Moscow, seizes property.

    Empires either collapse or subjugate. Happens every single time. There is no in-between. Certainly not for the U.S with it's "18 trillion" economy.

    The new cold war will result in either the break-up of new Russia or the collapse of the U.S, perhaps even a breakup/civil war if the petro dollar bubble bursts. Incomes are tight as it's and the safety net is a joke - specially healthcare. New ride for the next 10-30 years.

    you are looking at it too simple. Russia won't break up even if they back down. Current day Russia is united simply because majority of the nation 90+% are ethnic Russians. Same goes for the US. It simply will go to bad relations to possible good ones eventually when someone decides to melt the ice.

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    Re: Russia - USA Relations

    Post  JohninMK on Sun Jul 30, 2017 8:05 pm

    Now we know the numbers, 575 are genuine US staff the 180 others are local staff employed by the US. Assume there are family members on top of this. A huge upheaval.

    Just find it amazing at the number. Non of course were there to influence Russian elections  Laughing

    When Russia warned on Friday that it would retaliate proportionately after it announced it would seize two diplomatic compounds used by the US in Russia and added that it would reduce the number of US diplomatic service staff in the country to equal the number of Russian diplomats in the US by September 1, calculated by the local press at 455, it wasn't joking.

    Moments ago, speaking in an interview on the Rossiya 1 TV channel, Vladimir Putin said that 755 American diplomats will be expelled, or as he phrased it "will have to leave Russia as a result of Washington's own policies", a move which as we previewed on Friday, will make the diplomatic missions of Russia and the United States working in the both countries equal.

    "The American side has made a move which, it is important to note, hasn't been provoked by anything, to worsen Russian-US relations. [It includes] unlawful restrictions, attempts to influence other states of the world, including our allies, who are interested in developing and keeping relations with Russia," Putin told channel host, Vladimir Solovyov, Sunday.

    "The personnel of the US diplomatic missions in Russia will be cut by 755 people and will now equal the number of the Russian diplomatic personnel in the United States, 455 people on each side."

    Finally, the Russian president said that the time for retaliation has come: "we've been waiting for quite a long time that maybe something would change for the better, we had hopes that the situation would change. But it looks like, it's not going to change in the near future... I decided that it is time for us to show that we will not leave anything unanswered."

    According to Reuters, Putin also said that Russia is able to impose additional measures against U.S. but he is against such moves.

    And now we await the US retaliation in what is once again the same tit-for-tat escalation that marked the latter years of the Obama regime, as the US Military Industrial Complex breathes out a sigh of relief that for all the posturing by Trump, things between Russia and the US are back on autopilot.


    http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-07-30/its-time-retaliate-putin-expels-755-us-diplomats
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    Re: Russia - USA Relations

    Post  franco on Thu Aug 03, 2017 2:14 am

    Not sure where this should go but here is a world wide survey conducted among 38 countries on what are the biggest threats in their citizens perception. Canada and Australia results are somewhat surprising.

    http://www.pewglobal.org/2017/08/01/globally-people-point-to-isis-and-climate-change-as-leading-security-threats/#fn-38604-1
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    Re: Russia - USA Relations

    Post  nomadski on Thu Aug 03, 2017 4:07 pm

    What is the nature of the world ? Having harmful relationships is an oxymoron . Since the object of that relationship is destroyed . What is the nature of the world ? An environment that fosters diversity . And a miriad of complex relationships . So the world is where a diversity of beneficial relationships exist . Between the atoms . Between the stars . And beasts . And mountains . And men .

    Those that destroy peacefulness . Coexistence . Diversity .Wanting to create a unipolar world . Where only they exist . Are doomed to fail . Such is written into the fabric of nature . So write into your hearts . Those of you of like mind . Not to carry hatred and greed into your hearts . And love your fellow men . But do not offer your flesh to him . To devour . Make your flesh unpalatable to him . Grow a thick skin . So he chokes with every bite .
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    Re: Russia - USA Relations

    Post  PapaDragon on Thu Aug 03, 2017 6:39 pm

    More angles:

    Trump sidesteps impeachment trap in sanctions law and prepares challenge to Supreme Court


    http://theduran.com/trump-sidesteps-impeachment-trap-sanctions-law-prepares-challenge-supreme-court/

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