[b] And if Russia takes the position of a seller of raw materials and does not aspire to anything else, then it is only Russia that drove itself into this corner [/b]. wrote:
And this is exactly the major mistake of Russia policy ever.. can't say for sure if this is a
Modern Russia only thing..But like i have been saying .. Putin ,Lavrov complain and complain
and complain and more bitch about not being respected or taken seriously.. but is clear that for
mr short sight PUTIN, in hostile environments with hostile players..Respect is something you need to win ,is an earned thing.. not a given for free..
[u]The west will not really respect Russia for the simple reason... that..
It needs NOTHING FROM RUSSIA
That they cannot get in another place. If PUshed into a corner the EU can easily build a pipeline from Azerbaijan/IRAN and Egypt/Israel to Europe.. also with Norway help... and many other options like fracking ,nuclear reactors,Coal ,
or American Exports of Liquid Gas.. it will be an inconvenience but not a game breaking that will
collapse Europe.. In the other hand if Russia is banned from selling any Energy to Europe will c
collapse. and become again at same place they were in the late 90s.. when their economy was 10x times smaller.
now let see if American sanctions any European nation of their technology and cut their internet
and you will see a major revolution to become again closer to the west.. This is the major HUGE
PRoblem that RUssia have.. that its policy is killing them...When all they need to do is not to
patrol more oceans but to become a Real Alternative to America.. This thing is something Russia
can achieve since already Russia have achieved this in in space albeit with a more less ambitious program..and in military too.. but this is not enough.
And in the other hand Americans ,policy ,aimed and becoming an World Empire ,
is getting some major substantial results.. And this will have been impossible for them to do it
had the only thing they had was their large military ,nukes and a control of financial markets..
They did something clever and they began an industrial revolution ,with very aggressive advertising and marketing world wide..to get everyone consuming their products.. in Short
Americans were far more ambitious.. and Russia is paying the price for being so lame in being
happy with just making money quietly from europe , and not daring to do anything to compete with the west.. in anything but military. Russia policy have been always of compete with the west only in Military and space.. and NOTHING ELSE.
Had Russia had a vision of becoming the most developed nation in the world ,with a truly
independent nation.. none of this problems Russia face in Ukraine or even middle east will exist.
This is because for the first time the World major economy.. the EU ,will notice Russia and say..
mmm.. We did dont need americans anymore. we dont need Apple ,We dont need Intel ,we don't need Microsoft , We dont need Hollywood , American music industry and entertainment dominated also by them..or NASA.. no longer needed for mission beyond earth orbit.. (Russia have limited to be a taxi to the ISS).. And then instead you will see people in Europe ,wanting
to join the Russia orbit and not the American one.
Russia leadership is to blame for the mess they have put themselves .. they have powerful enemies and they continue with their idiotic policy ..of countering americans with a bigger navy
and more nukes.. instead of starting an Industrial Revolution and a model nation to the world.
Japan have less territory and less people than Russia and they have far more developed country
than Russia. they need to look at their neighbors . Same with Germany..
They cut the expenses of their Space Program.. by 10% or more.. in the only things that have allowed Russia to earn some respect and become an influence in the west.. So as long the current short vision leadership continues in Power.. Russia will not see a real end to the west trying to isolate them.. Because Americans demand Europe to pick between Russia and them...
and they always pick the west...since Russia have done not much to become a real world leader
in most things and replace the americans position..
Sadly im not away of any leader in Russia with any real vision of becoming a world leader and
and alternative of the west. The few things Russia is doing.. like BRICS , and import substitution.. is only done because they have no choice ..and not because they really want it to
lead the world.. It seems to me.. That Putin hoped to quietly build a very power Navy and make a lot of money from American close allies.. while them doing nothing to stop Russia for becoming a big influence problem in the long run for them.. now he know he was WRONG.
Russia policy have been dead wrong for decades.. they have seek to earn respect through force or through becoming an energy monology..and not through producing things that every society
needs and wants... And you see that leadership everywhere.. American music in Russian events or activities, american PCs dominating Russia.. American Movies..american fast food the most popular.. and so and so and so..
So effectively Russia policy is one that is doomed to a major confrontation with Americans..
because they are playing the lame card of being just a Gas station with a taxi to the ISS..
but so far have done next to nothing to become a real alternative to americans in Europe.
Europe are vassal states of americans not because they don't want it.. but because there is no other alternative to US.. US shut down internet to Russia and what are they going to do? wait years and hope to get a mini internet with Asian nations..
Lack of vision ,lack of a leader with real major ambitious. Putin only achievement is uniting Russia society and getting Russia again as a military super power. and with good space technology. but unfortunately this is not enough to stop Americans firm grab of Europe.
Greece never considered an option to leave the EU why? because Russia was never an alternative to it.. when u speak about EU.. you speak about a whole package of the western
markets.. Eastern markets non NATO markets where Russia can freely move have nothing to offer Europe..that they cannot get elsewhere . Nobody wants to be close to Asia and is because they are behind in almost everything. when it comes to Society needs. Russia is the only exception.. but is very limited the things they have to offer Europeans that cannot get in Europe or US.
So we will continue listening how the west does not take seriously Russia..until no one explain
Putin or Lavrov or Russian leadership that they are the ones to blame for it.. Building more nukes and more warships is not going to convince anyone in Europe to take Russia seriously.
This does not means Russia needs to become a world empire now and do what Americans
do and start invading nations.. instead that Russia needs to be much more an attractive nation
to the developed economies in Europe.. if they really want to be taking seriously and their interest respected. Unfortunately there is nothing for Russia to replace in Asia.. there is no influence there at all.. like there is none in Africa and middle east.. Russians society will never want to be closer to people that look very different to them ,and very incompatible culture or belief.
This does not means either to capitulate to the west.. but that Russia needs to be a real ambitious program to make Russia a real alternative to America.. Putin have said himself..
"They will never accept us as equals" when speaking about Americans and Europe.. but guess
what? They are the ones to blame for it.. since they continue sitting on their hands with their thumbs right up in their buts. Instead of creating a real industrial /social revolution.. they continue building more nukes ,more warships as if somehow that will help Russia to ever become taken seriously.
Russia needs to cut by 50 to 70% its navy ,axe their most costly to maintain soviet crap.. and invest that money instead in Space exploration beyond earth as NASA does, Seriously Compete with Intel ,apple and microsoft on semiconductor industry ,build everything in Russia. Have a solid entertainment industry from Media centers for homes to video games industry ,compete against hollywood and music industry too. and very important create their own internet. All those things will be highly influential ,very hard to ignore.. that will truly take Russia as a world leader..and not ignored by the west. Europeans will want no longer to be attached to the "American world" and create their own natural economic and military alliance with Russia..and a new United Nations created not in New York..but moved to europe.. This is only when the world
will be balanced and no longer NATO exist. and we live in total different times ,since without Europe ,Americans becomes in effect just a regional major power..and lose their world influence status. and no longer the will be able to start a way anywhere or risk be sanctioned and isolated. This will be possible ONLY when no longer American are needed. because an alternative Russia exist. I really believe Russia have those capabilities.. is only their leaders that sucks.. not terrible but neither the right ones to put Russia in the world map as a leading
Russia real problems is an influence problem .. that they don't have enough .
Russia goes and oppose American Imperialism.. So this force americans to pressure Europe to pick a side.. and naturally ,the so materialistic european society will pick the access to American business over Russian ones. So unfortunately.. Europeans will continue looking to the sides ,
whenever US invade another nation or finance terrorism and provokes a major war against Russia. Until Russia (if ever) become an alternative.. for US.