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    Re: Russian Car Industry

    Post  Neutrality on Wed Dec 30, 2015 3:56 pm

    Militarov wrote:http://www.autoevolution.com/news/2016-chevrolet-niva-shows-up-in-camo-for-the-first-time-photo-gallery-97126.html

    Okay, that's awesome Twisted Evil

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    Re: Russian Car Industry

    Post  sepheronx on Wed Dec 30, 2015 4:43 pm

    Two different vehicles though. Chevy Niva isnt same as Avtovaz Niva.  As well, screw Chevy.  Garbage, overpriced vehicles.  Much like Chrystler+Dodge.

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    Re: Russian Car Industry

    Post  TheArmenian on Wed Dec 30, 2015 10:22 pm

    @ FlamingPython

    Hold your horses. That website does not belong to Lada. It is the website of the local German dealership that sells Lada. Big difference.

    Lada does not do much advertising outside the CIS. Whatever they are selling currently outside the CIS is just gravy. They have not put the effort (and $$$) there yet. But hold on to your butt, that may change in the future (and the weak Rouble will help).

    Note that Avtovaz is a joint venture with Renault-Nissan. That global entity is the one who decides what effort and what marketing and what $$$ will be spent and where. Note that even their Datsun brand is not marketed in much of the world.

    I don't want to go into too much details, suffice to say that the Automotive industry is much more complicated than what the average people think. I know because I have been dealing with that industry for the last 20 years.

    @ Neutrality

    The photo you posted is the new version of the Chevrolet Niva. It is not in production yet. I am not sure it will ever be. Note that the Chevrolet Niva is a joint venture between Avtovaz (Lada) and General Motors (Chevrolet). Currently, their factory in Togliatti still produces the old Chevrolet Niva.

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    Re: Russian Car Industry

    Post  sepheronx on Sun Jan 03, 2016 5:57 am

    AvtoVAZ made electric Lada Vesta EV
    Newspaper «Volzhsky autobuilder" corporate edition Togliatti plant, announced the creation of a new, all-electric, the sedan version of "Harmony Vesta".

    The electric car, called Lada Vesta EV, equipped with engine capacity of 60 kW (80 hp..) And a block of lithium-ion batteries. According to official data, in the battery is fully charged from a household electrical outlet will need about nine hours, but when connecting to a network voltage of 380 V charging time will be reduced to about one and a half hours. Declared cruising range on a single charge - 150 km. As long as one instance created an electrical "lead", for 2016 it is planned to build several more vehicles for further testing and refinement of the structure. Serial production of electric vehicle "Lada Vesta EV» is not planned, but in the words of one of the representatives of AvtoVAZ, the company will be able to release the machine if there is demand. Last year, in Togliatti was created experimental "Lada Granta" with a hybrid, but no further news about that project was no more. A couple of years ago, AvtoVAZ produced a small batch of electric cars "Hellas", which is also not admitted to the free market.


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    Re: Russian Car Industry

    Post  higurashihougi on Tue Jan 12, 2016 3:10 pm

    Copy from (and thank you) JohninMK

    BELGRADE (Sputnik) — Moscow is considering transferring the manufacturing of components for the major Russian carmakers KAMAZ and AVTOVAZ from Turkey to Serbia, Russian Deputy Prime Minister Dmitry Rogozin said Monday.

    "Up until now, these car components were manufactured in Turkey. We believe that the Serbian [auto] industry is capable of producing them. This will also bring the Serbian economy serious financial dividends," Rogozin said.


    Read more: http://sputniknews.com/world/20160111/1032955752/russia-serbia-car-details.html#ixzz3wyKWGN9f

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    Re: Russian Car Industry

    Post  x_54_u43 on Thu Jan 14, 2016 6:15 am

    Ladies and Gentlemen... the finest in Russian civilian automative engineering



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    Re: Russian Car Industry

    Post  GarryB on Thu Jan 14, 2016 9:18 am

    I actually always liked the BRDM-2... especially the model with the retractable 5 tube AT-5/AT-4 launcher... fully amphibious, but still wheeled for mobility, full central tire pressure regulation system and of course the four chain driven powered belly wheels for rough country...

    Of course thin armour and roof hatches only was a problem...


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    Re: Russian Car Industry

    Post  George1 on Fri Jan 15, 2016 3:52 pm

    The sales of passenger cars in Russia dropped by 30 percent while passenger car production fell by 24 percent in 2015, Minister of Industry and Trade Denis Manturov said Thursday.

    Read more: http://sputniknews.com/russia/20160114/1033131840/passenger-car-sales-russia.html#ixzz3xKCjP2wo


    Medvedev: Russian Government Plans to Increase Support for Auto Industry

    Read more: http://sputniknews.com/russia/20160115/1033183203/russia-increase-support-auto-industry.html#ixzz3xKCoFicU


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    Re: Russian Car Industry

    Post  sepheronx on Fri Jan 22, 2016 12:55 am

    Ford EcoSport crossover began to equip a new Russian-made engine

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    Re: Russian Car Industry

    Post  sepheronx on Sun Jan 24, 2016 4:35 am

    Belarus has started selling sedan Lada Vesta



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    Re: Russian Car Industry

    Post  TheArmenian on Thu Feb 04, 2016 10:59 am

    Someone sent me this photo of a Lada Niva from Lebanon.
    It looks like it is the version called Urban which has revised grill and bumpers.

    Apparently the first batch of cars have arrived and the Lada showroom will open very soon just north of Beirut.


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    Re: Russian Car Industry

    Post  kvs on Thu Feb 04, 2016 10:59 pm

    TheArmenian wrote:Someone sent me this photo of a Lada Niva from Lebanon.
    It looks like it is the version called Urban which has revised grill and bumpers.

    Apparently the first batch of cars have arrived and the Lada showroom will open very soon just north of Beirut.


    This vehicle sums up all that is wrong with Avtovaz and indigenous Russian automobile industry. What sort of retards
    do not update the shell of a car in 30 years? I would love to own one with modern styling and the original robust
    suspension. The GM Niva is not the Niva, it's another POS with a POS suspension so please don't bring that up.

    In the western market all you have is routine updates to the styling of the body and revision of the cup holders but
    the suspensions are all shit even for so-called SUVs. The Niva was built for rough roads and guess what, there are
    plenty in the west and in big cities.

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    Re: Russian Car Industry

    Post  KoTeMoRe on Thu Feb 04, 2016 11:41 pm

    kvs wrote:
    TheArmenian wrote:Someone sent me this photo of a Lada Niva from Lebanon.
    It looks like it is the version called Urban which has revised grill and bumpers.

    Apparently the first batch of cars have arrived and the Lada showroom will open very soon just north of Beirut.


    This vehicle sums up all that is wrong with Avtovaz and indigenous Russian automobile industry.   What sort of retards
    do not update the shell of a car in 30 years?   I would love to own one with modern styling and the original robust
    suspension.  The GM Niva is not the Niva, it's another POS with a POS suspension so please don't bring that up.  

    In the western market all you have is routine updates to the styling of the body and revision of the cup holders but
    the suspensions are all shit even for so-called SUVs.   The Niva was built for rough roads and guess what, there are
    plenty in the west and in big cities.  

    Ironically the "Western OEM's" are/were all hell bent on the Neo-Retro BS. Look At Fiat, Ford, Chevy, VW. This is totally fine for such a task (the NIVA is nothing more than the damn Jeep Wrangler (that has evolved backwards though). It's an Icon, period.

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    Re: Russian Car Industry

    Post  Book. on Sun Feb 07, 2016 2:45 am

    Электрическая Electric Lada Vesta


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    Post  Book. on Sun Feb 07, 2016 4:06 am

    UAZ Patriot 4x4


    Lada Vetsa

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    Re: Russian Car Industry

    Post  sepheronx on Wed Feb 10, 2016 4:31 am


    AVTOVAZ launched the first pick-up

    Two pick-up on the basis of grants, is preparing to assemble Lada 4 × 4 with the body structure assembled poluramnoy The UPC Lada Priora. Collected pickups Lada Granta will be sent for homologation in engineering service of JSC "AVTOVAZ". Later, the plant will start production of pickup trucks on the development of components and assemblies without Lada 4 × 4. As the director of the UPC Lada Priora Andrej Barinov, the first phase of testing the possibility of release of models on the main conveyor is complete. Production of pickups moved to welding bodybuilder production at AvtoVAZ Lada Priora with subsidiary facilities "Vis-Auto". The company explained this decision to a desire to optimize the production process, improve product quality and reduce logistics costs. The company also noted that the sale of special vehicles through an extensive dealer network Lada can contribute to an increase in demand. wrote:

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    Post  GarryB on Wed Feb 10, 2016 10:46 am

    Not bad... in New Zealand and Australia these light vehicles are called Utes (pronounced Yoots)... short for Utility truck.


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    Re: Russian Car Industry

    Post  George1 on Mon Feb 15, 2016 2:36 am

    Avtovaz puts LADA XRay on sale; plans to sell up to 25,000 cars in 2016

    So far, LADA XRay is available only in the Russian market. Exports to Hungary and Egypt may start soon

    SAMARA, February 14 /TASS/. Avtovaz, one of Russia’s biggest car makers, is starting the sales of its new LADA XRay model in Russia: 124 dealing centers will open in 57 cities at 11:00 local time.

    "About 16,000-20,000 cars are to be sold according to a pessimistic scenario. The sales will increase to about 25,000 cars under an optimistic scenario, the plant’s press service told TASS.

    So far, LADA XRay is available only in the Russian market. Exports to Hungary and Egypt may start soon.

    Lada XRay may be competitive to such models as hatchback KIA Rio, Hyundai Solaris and Renault Sandero Stepway.

    The cheapest XRay model will cost 589,000 rubles ($7,485) and the most expensive - 723,000 rubles ($9,188).


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    Re: Russian Car Industry

    Post  kvs on Mon Feb 15, 2016 5:05 am

    George1 wrote:Avtovaz puts LADA XRay on sale; plans to sell up to 25,000 cars in 2016

    So far, LADA XRay is available only in the Russian market. Exports to Hungary and Egypt may start soon

    SAMARA, February 14 /TASS/. Avtovaz, one of Russia’s biggest car makers, is starting the sales of its new LADA XRay model in Russia: 124 dealing centers will open in 57 cities at 11:00 local time.

    "About 16,000-20,000 cars are to be sold according to a pessimistic scenario. The sales will increase to about 25,000 cars under an optimistic scenario, the plant’s press service told TASS.

    So far, LADA XRay is available only in the Russian market. Exports to Hungary and Egypt may start soon.

    Lada XRay may be competitive to such models as hatchback KIA Rio, Hyundai Solaris and Renault Sandero Stepway.

    The cheapest XRay model will cost 589,000 rubles ($7,485) and the most expensive - 723,000 rubles ($9,188).


    More:
    http://tass.ru/en/economy/856644

    So Avtovaz uses the exchange rate of the ruble to set the price of the domestically produced cars.   And then we want to know where inflation in
    Russia comes from.   This is insane racketeering "bizness".   The Russian government needs to pass some laws on this sort of racketeering and
    send some corporate bosses to the slammer or a work colony in Siberia.

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    Re: Russian Car Industry

    Post  sepheronx on Mon Feb 15, 2016 7:39 am

    Now now, not so fast.  They use the dollar comparrison due to media sensation, nothing else.  If you seen prices prior to all of this for various types of cars, you will notice that the price given for a new car isnt actually bad.  Expensive somewhat but not bad.  I have seen prior to this vehicles like Patriot going for over 600,000 rubles as an example.  This type of vehicle is more luxury than anything else (when comparing other vehicles on market) and is somewhat costly at first.

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    Re: Russian Car Industry

    Post  George1 on Mon Feb 15, 2016 4:58 pm

    Russia's major car manufacturer switches to shortened work week

    Russia's largest carmaker group Avtovaz was at risk of putting on hold operational activities due to large losses and difficulties associated with the repayment of debt

    SAMARA, February 15. /TASS/. Russia's largest passenger car manufacturer Avtovaz announced transition to a four-day work week for six months, the company said Monday.

    It was first reported about Avtovaz possible switching to a four-day working week after a meeting of the Board of Directors of the company on November 30, 2015. "The Board of Directors focused on the main areas of improvement and its adaptation to the current market conditions," the company’s press service said.

    It was reported earlier, Russia's largest carmaker group Avtovaz was at risk of putting on hold operational activities due to large losses and difficulties associated with the repayment of debt. The auditor - Ernst&Young - said that the losses of Avtovaz amounted to 73.85 bln rubles ($932.5 mln) in 2015 (increasing 2.9-fold), as well as short-term liabilities at the end of the year exceeded the current assets by 67.78 bln rubles ($855.2 mln), which caused the auditor to doubt the ability of Avtovaz to continue its operational activity.

    Avtovaz said it breached covenants on more than 43 bln rubles ($542.63 mln) of loans as of December 31 and received waivers from lenders including Rosbank, Garanti Bank Moscow and Societe Generale. The company also noted risks and said it needed shareholder support.

    At the end of the year long-term liabilities of the group amounted to 48.9 bln rubles ($617.1 mln), which is 67% more that in 2014.

    More:
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    Re: Russian Car Industry

    Post  sepheronx on Mon Feb 15, 2016 5:25 pm

    Its funny but Renault-Nissan owns avtovaz so tjis is now their own fault.  Guess shouldnt have taken all those loans out.  I think it was stupid to sell 100% of the company.

    Regardless, as long as people still have work, thats good.

    Funny enough, UAZ is doing better than before and Avtovaz Granta is still selling quite well.  At this point, I think its best if they look to sell some stock elsewhere and as well, look at witholding new development till debts are paid off.  For instance, try to increase sales of Granta and offer different packages.  Avtovaz is doing far better than it ever has and yet still racks up a massive debt.  Sure sounds like the Canadian car manufacturers.

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    Re: Russian Car Industry

    Post  kvs on Tue Feb 16, 2016 2:28 am

    sepheronx wrote:Now now, not so fast.  They use the dollar comparrison due to media sensation, nothing else.  If you seen prices prior to all of this for various types of cars, you will notice that the price given for a new car isnt actually bad.  Expensive somewhat but not bad.  I have seen prior to this vehicles like Patriot going for over 600,000 rubles as an example.  This type of vehicle is more luxury than anything else (when comparing other vehicles on market) and is somewhat costly at first.

    I am looking at the price in dollars in 2013 and now. They maintained the dollar price and not the ruble price. The ruble price has basically
    gone up by 100%. I know these are new models, but they are being targeted at a certain market segment where the price is around $10,000.
    So the Avtovaz pricing is BS since these cars are not imports.

    https://www.rt.com/business/lada-avtovaz-europe-cars-311/

    The above gives the price range for the Lada Granta in 2012.



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    Post  sepheronx on Tue Feb 16, 2016 3:39 am

    kvs wrote:
    sepheronx wrote:Now now, not so fast.  They use the dollar comparrison due to media sensation, nothing else.  If you seen prices prior to all of this for various types of cars, you will notice that the price given for a new car isnt actually bad.  Expensive somewhat but not bad.  I have seen prior to this vehicles like Patriot going for over 600,000 rubles as an example.  This type of vehicle is more luxury than anything else (when comparing other vehicles on market) and is somewhat costly at first.

    I am looking at the price in dollars in 2013 and now.  They maintained the dollar price and not the ruble price.   The ruble price has basically
    gone up by 100%.  I know these are new models, but they are being targeted at a certain market segment where the price is around $10,000.
    So the Avtovaz pricing is BS since these cars are not imports.

    https://www.rt.com/business/lada-avtovaz-europe-cars-311/

    The above gives the price range for the Lada Granta in 2012.  



    This is different than other models too you know. Nothing they made before.  More luxurious.  lets wait and see how well it does.  Granta and such is still cheap.

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    Post  TheArmenian on Tue Feb 16, 2016 6:54 pm

    kvs wrote:
    sepheronx wrote:Now now, not so fast.  They use the dollar comparrison due to media sensation, nothing else.  If you seen prices prior to all of this for various types of cars, you will notice that the price given for a new car isnt actually bad.  Expensive somewhat but not bad.  I have seen prior to this vehicles like Patriot going for over 600,000 rubles as an example.  This type of vehicle is more luxury than anything else (when comparing other vehicles on market) and is somewhat costly at first.

    I am looking at the price in dollars in 2013 and now.  They maintained the dollar price and not the ruble price.   The ruble price has basically
    gone up by 100%.  I know these are new models, but they are being targeted at a certain market segment where the price is around $10,000.
    So the Avtovaz pricing is BS since these cars are not imports.

    https://www.rt.com/business/lada-avtovaz-europe-cars-311/

    The above gives the price range for the Lada Granta in 2012.  



    The car has some foreign made parts. It is not 100% domestic.
    You must adjust the cost increase accordingly.

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